all4naija:

Refineries worldwide mostly run at a loss, says the Shell servant. Yet many refineries are being built by Indians.If you know about what refineries and petrochemical companies can do you wont deny the fact they are profiting in many ways.

Give me the names of the refineries they sold world wide?

ckkris:

@kodwrita
The grouses are:
1. Refine in Nigeria and create jobs.
2. Save cost of shipment out of Nigeria and back.
3. Let the multiplier effect be Nigeria, like taxes, etc.
4. Stop demurrage for ships.
5. National security.

debosky:

Shell has sold ALL of its UK refineries, so has BP, and even Chevron is trying to sell its refineries in the UK as well, so what are you talking about?

Have you heard about the refining company called Petroplus in Europe that recently went bankrupt and almost had to close its refineries? Have you heard about the number of refinery closures in the US, especially on the East Coast?

Idle talk with no awareness of reality.

The people building refineries in India are largely Indian multinational companies like Essar Oil or Reliance, not foreign companies like Shell. Why can't we build our own refineries instead of waiting for Shell to do so for us? They are not interested in refining and should be free to decide what business they want to invest in.

If you feel Shell is not giving you the best terms, then negotiate with other IOCs that may be interested in building refineries and make that a requirement of their contracts.

jp philips: @ all4naija.

i love your ambition but i can authoritatively tell you that shell is not directly responsible for the spill in the delta, if you dont understand, you ask people in pipeline operations to tell you exactly who is culpable.

the last time a shell pipeline exploded on its own causing spill was more than 5yrs ago, we recorded cases of leaking well heads which is inconsequential to the Bp example you gave above.

shell runs an integrated pipeline integrity assesment every month with one of the best contractors in the world, these contractors have the most advanced intelligent tools that scans those pipelines on 5 yr basis while cleaning and cathodic protection contractors work on monthly basis runing pigging tools, chemical injection and cathodic protection.

shell uses Rosen and TDW for pipeline intelligent inspection while they employ Nalco chemicals for corrosion control, these contractors are very reputable in europe and america and they do a very good job for shell.

what else do you want?

when mend blows up a 24" pipeline transporting 40,000bbls of crude daily, what do you expect? rhe crude will disappear?

sail through, ekulama 1 to odioma, awoba, krakamar, bile and belema and see what "kpo fire" boys are doing in connivance with jtf, tomorrow, you expect shell to clean it for you?

nonsense!!!!!

I scream on the government. So, I don't understand why you are also exempting Shell that is contributing to the problem as well. They admit they will fix the environment and what have they done about it. I don't buy that idea of lopsidedness - Shell and the corrupt leaders are of the same clique!

debosky:

How has he insulted your intelligence? When you find it difficult to comprehend a simple article. He has said it is not in Shell's interest to build a refinery because it's refinery portfolio is too big and needs to be reduced, not that it would be cheaper/more expensive for Nigeria to refine locally. What he is saying in essence is that if you want to refine you better get your act together and do it YOURSELVES.

Abagworo:

@beaf. On whose side are you? Shell or Nigerians?

All these Shell apologist should dare come to the streets of Port Harcourt and tell us these crap and see if they'll live to tell more.

Shell should build refineries and operate at loss. If not they should leave our oil.

Abagworo:

@beaf. On whose side are you? Shell or Nigerians?

All these Shell apologist should dare come to the streets of Port Harcourt and tell us these crap and see if they'll live to tell more.

Shell should build refineries and operate at loss. If not they should leave our oil.

Beaf:


The worst thing any man can be is a slave in his own mind. That is what you are.
Nobody praises Shell the way you just did. There are even International human rights organisations like Greenpeace, Amnesty International, Friends of the Earth etc who have incredibly scathing things to say about Shells operations in Nigeria. But I guess a slave will always be a slave,  unsurprisingly, in an earlier post, you called the Niger Deltans "bingo's." You might think you are ventilating fury, but you really are ventilating low-self-esteem that makes you look ridiculous. We understand your type.

We will not take nonsense from foreign exploiters.

If Shell cannot build a refinery, then let them pack up and leave.
We have already forced them off most of their onshore operations which have been sold off. They need to pack out of Nigeria (and with love so strong, you can go with them whenever they leave).

A-ZeD:

Dude forget about Shell. Has Chevron, Mobil and other Oil companies operating in Nigeria built any in refinery here in Nigeria that you guys are clamouring kick shell out?
How about you guys clamour for NNPC to do its work and become an Oil company instead of pdp's Bank.

Beaf:

^
Was it not you fighting bitterly for subsidies? Some of you are funny folk indeed.
Subsidies kill refineries. It is what we drummed into you guys ears, but mbanu! Una no wan hia! Now you are foolishly blaming political parties that will rule us for umpteen years, because there is no alternative. Its a fools paradise.

A-ZeD:

Dude forget about Shell. Has Chevron, Mobil and other Oil companies operating in Nigeria built any in refinery here in Nigeria that you guys are clamouring kick shell out?
How about you guys clamour for NNPC to do its work and become an Oil company instead of pdp's Bank.

Beaf:

^
Dude, please don't quote me, because you are impressively stup!d. A fool who thinks there are men on the Moon.

@topic.
Who cares if Shell is selling their refineries all over the World? How is that Nigeria's business?
Nigeria can only look out for her interest, which at this point is more refineries. If we are making it part of the rules for oil majors in the PIB, then Shell had better get used to it now or leave.

For those singing about Indian companies building refineries in India, they should go sing the same tune to the likes of Oando, who are only interested in collecting subsidies and so will only benefit if we keep importing fuel (which is the deal the #Occupy clowns fought for).

A-ZeD:

I never knew petrol subsides were introduced in europe.  Hmmm no wonder Petroplus went bankrupt. No wonder Exxon, chevron and bp have sold most of their stakes in refineries.

Beaf:

Daft.

If you wish to look out for the welfare of Europeans, I don't. The term for such, is low self-esteem.
I am only interested in Nigeria's interest. Which at this point is that oil major oil players in our land MUST build refineries to run a full chain from production to finished goods. If they cannot comply then they can stuff their custom and head for your beloved Europe.

jp philips:

why was the mad rush to remove pet. subsidy when neither the palliatives nor the investment plan could be achieved.
beaf deserves to be stonned to death for decieving gullible Nigerians from April till date.

Beaf:

GEJ happened to be meeting with Shell, thats why their case came up. It will be the same with other oil players.
As for NNPC, I am tired of explaining to NLers how that works. It was never set up to build refineries, rather, it was set up to make the pillaging and exploitation of Nigeria by the likes of Shell smooth and easy.

NNPC is due to be broken up like PHCN. Hopefully, that will begin to happen this year or next. One of the resulting companies will be a true oil company that is built to make profits (not run on subsidies), that company will be able to compete with the likes of Shell and even go drill oil and build refineries in foreign countries like any real oil company can do.

We have had oil for half a century, but we have laid back to be milked and ra'ped by foreigners. Until recently, we had to go to the likes of Shell to tell us how much oil we had drilled for the day.
Such enslavement in our own land absolutely cannot continue.

A-ZeD:

MUMU
I unlike you would never blame foreigners for the woos of Nigeria. That blames goes to my Government.

Beaf:

Daft.

If you wish to look out for the welfare of Europeans, I don't. The term for such, is low self-esteem.
I am only interested in Nigeria's interest. Which at this point is that oil major oil players in our land MUST build refineries to run a full chain from production to finished goods. If they cannot comply then they can stuff their custom and head for your beloved Europe.

Beaf:

^
What a sad psychiatric case.

kulutempa:

@Debosky,  you have just shown that you are the one with the comprehension difficulty and a perfect example of the Nigerian educated illiterate.   Here is what  the man said again:

“I think there are a lot of opportunities for Nigeria and for Shell in Nigeria and the potential much more than to consider refining.’’


Was he only talking about Shell's interests there?  And who is he to tell us what our best interests are?  That is the insult to our intelligence and the patronising attitude towards Nigerians which you, in your self delusion of intellectual greatness, failed to see.