moderattor: one minute GEJ is toothless
next minute he is authocratic, which one do we take?

freecocoa: This issue is becoming annoying for feck's sakes.

What's so wrong in renaming a useless school btw?

odumorun 1: I strongly disagree with Wole Soyinka on this.

The furore regarding the renaming of Unilag is elitist posturing of the worst kind, dressed up in the garb of democratic protestation. This has nothing to do with anger that the council of the university was not consulted. The university and its senate and governing council do not fund the school. The school is funded by the federal government from the federal purse representing millions of hardworking Nigerians most of whose kids will never enjoy the benfit of a university education let alone a prestigious one like Unilag.

The storm in a tea cup is another example of middle class Nigerians, particularly yoruba ones (the most snobbish and self regarding version and yes i am a Yoruba) refusing to be associated with a person largely revered by the poorer classes. The same happened when Uiversity of Ife was renamed in 1987 in honour of Obafemi Awolowo, when a few hundred students largely of middle class origin demonstrated their objection, while the poor people in the town, carpentars, shoe makers, tailors and others who benefited from awo's reforms celebrated.

This is all about a few priviledged and educated yoruba people wanting to retain what they see as an eleitis label placing them apart from the majority of the population whom they secretly despise. If the school had been named after Barack Obama would they be protesting, even if it was done without consultation - Of course they wouldn't - they'll probably be fantasising about getting an easy visa ride in the American embassy.

Wole Soyinka is a radical and progressive Nigerian but his elitism is a well known flaw which is why he has never inspite of his undoubted courage been able to buod a mass following for his ideas.

Unilag is funded by the majority of the people of this country, not the students or their lecturers. Most ordiany Nigerians respect the sacrifices people like abiola made - they, not the spolit middle class kids kicking up a fuss in Unilag are the majority. The noisy minority in Unilag should be ignored. they will son go back to their Ipads

If they don't like the name when they receive their degrees let them rip them up. They don't own the school, the people do -i've not seen any demonstrations in mushin, shomolu, bere or sabongari against it.

If wole is not happy let him write a poem about his fury. He is a great man, but on this occasion he is wrong

Ileke-IdI:
@ndu chucks,

Oh I see, a question for GEJ.



I'm not saying that you do not have the authority to paint your house as you like, but you cannot just go ahead and paint without notifying the tenants.
There's usually a signed contract.

Now knowing that Unilag is FG owned, it still does not excuse the disrespectful steps GEJ took towards renaming the school.
According to your logic, since it's FG owned, if the students and staff don't like it, then they can leave. So if they do leave, what exactly is there to own?

Looking at this at a larger angle, GEJ is ruling the nation without regards to its occupants. May 29th was supposed to be about celebrating democracy, so is democracy not about the people? Is democracy not about serving the people?

odumorun 1: I strongly disagree with Wole Soyinka on this.

The furore regarding the renaming of Unilag is elitist posturing of the worst kind, dressed up in the garb of democratic protestation. This has nothing to do with anger that the council of the university was not consulted. The university and its senate and governing council do not fund the school. The school is funded by the federal government from the federal purse representing millions of hardworking Nigerians most of whose kids will never enjoy the benfit of a university education let alone a prestigious one like Unilag.

The storm in a tea cup is another example of middle class Nigerians, particularly yoruba ones (the most snobbish and self regarding version and yes i am a Yoruba) refusing to be associated with a person largely revered by the poorer classes. The same happened when Uiversity of Ife was renamed in 1987 in honour of Obafemi Awolowo, when a few hundred students largely of middle class origin demonstrated their objection, while the poor people in the town, carpentars, shoe makers, tailors and others who benefited from awo's reforms celebrated.

This is all about a few priviledged and educated yoruba people wanting to retain what they see as an eleitis label placing them apart from the majority of the population whom they secretly despise. If the school had been named after Barack Obama would they be protesting, even if it was done without consultation - Of course they wouldn't - they'll probably be fantasising about getting an easy visa ride in the American embassy.

Wole Soyinka is a radical and progressive Nigerian but his elitism is a well known flaw which is why he has never inspite of his undoubted courage been able to buod a mass following for his ideas.

Unilag is funded by the majority of the people of this country, not the students or their lecturers. Most ordiany Nigerians respect the sacrifices people like abiola made - they, not the spolit middle class kids kicking up a fuss in Unilag are the majority. The noisy minority in Unilag should be ignored. they will son go back to their Ipads

If they don't like the name when they receive their degrees let them rip them up. They don't own the school, the people do -i've not seen any demonstrations in mushin, shomolu, bere or sabongari against it.

If wole is not happy let him write a poem about his fury. He is a great man, but on this occasion he is wrong

coogar:

you really agree with the don on this?

what difference does it make? unilag, maulag or malulag?
the university is owned by the federal government...the vice chancellor
was appointed by the federal government. the federal government pays the
salaries of the staff.....are you saying they cannot name their own establishment
any name they so wish?

if you build a house and rent it to tenants, you need their blessings to paint it?
gate it? put a borehole or whatever? i just believe nigerians have their priorities
misplaced. does the change of name devalue the certificate? does it increase the fees
paid by the students? jonathan is indeed a mumu. if i were the president, i would have
deployed a thousand s.w.a.t. teams to make those unruly tools some target practice.

ayox2003:
Freecocoon, you've started again.
Whats useful about you that made you say UNILAG is useless?
Girl, how many times will I correct you?
You've been besieged and bedevilled by pointless jealousy.
Pls, if you dont have something nice to say, its better you take a bow. Else, I will repeat what I did to you on the 3rd class guy thread.

coogar:

nah - some people need to be made scapegoats.
they closed down the whole city today....blocked the whole 3rd
mainland bridge.....because their uni was renamed...i mean
who cares? people would still refer to it as unilag until
our generation f@cks off the planet.



where in the tenancy agreement does it say i cannot make changes in
the structure of the building? the owner is the owner. he has the
right to do whatever on his property as long as he does not bring
any harm to his tenants. renaming brings no harm. he named it
mko abiola(who must have donated billions of naira to the same institution).



they can close it down and turn it into a zoological garden.
thank feck, the lagoon is behind the school. it would be a perfect tourist attraction.
there's still unibadan, uni of ife, uniben, uniport, ado bayero and the federal govt owns them all.
they wouldn't lose any sleep over unilag which is a glorified whorehouse anyways.



and he named it after their hero. how many lagosians laid their lives down for abiola
in 93/94? even when he died in 98? they must be hundreds of thousands! so jonathan
decided to honour the man that fought for democracy in nigeria a university and the students
are protesting like ingrates. he didn't name it babangida uni, abacha uni, chukwumerije uni or
nzeribe uni? i dunno where this aggression is coming from - probably grudges nursed against
jonathan since the subsidy removal.



which yeye due process?

moderattor: one minute GEJ is toothless
next minute he is authocratic, which one do we take?

Beaf:

I wonder if the people can read official secrets because they gave the FG power?
Democracy is not anarchy, we have the right to vote in govts every four years, we also have some rights under the law; but it has never beeb, nor will it ever be a free for all.

Government in any country is an incredibly powerful institution. While it must remain accountable to the people, there are also things it keeps from the people for their own good (eg it is not our right to know how many bullets are in govts possession, what Aso Rock looks like etc).

coogar:

........ jonathan is indeed a mumu. if i were the president, i would have
deployed a thousand s.w.a.t. teams to make those unruly tools some target practice.

coogar:

why not? my house, my property....
i decide solely whatever goes on there. if any
tenant disagrees, he can pack out n leave space for
sensible tenants.

unilag is a property of the federal government.
the students, academic staff, etc are just tenants/labourers.
they are no stake-holders...they can be hired n fired by who??....the same federal government.

ypzilanti:

Nigeria is the only country in the world where the citizens have no idea what the presidential house looks like. You have just displayed your lack of exposure with this post. The president of the United States is probably the must sought after by terrorists in this world. The white house sits like a normal house on the street in washington. Tourists stand by the fence and snap pictures with policemen by the gates. It is a democracy and they try to preserve that feel of accessibility. They even have booked tours to visit the White house. I am about to start a thread on this topic because people need to understand that Aso Rock belongs to Nigerians and is a National symbol.

Pain: Imagine changing the name of Oxford or Harvard overnight? Is that not Brand Assassination? Take it or leave it, branding plays a key role on human psyche. Imagine having to explain yourself outside Nigeria. The coversation below may shed more light:

Foreigner: So which University did you Graduate from?
MAU MAU Grad : Moshood Abiola University?
Foreigner: So which University is that? Never heard of it!
MAU MAU Grad : Oh, it was Formerly University of Lagos.
Foreigner: Oh, now I get it. Have a couple of Friends that passed thru UNILAG. Just learn to add "Former" to it. Okay?
MAU MAU Grad : Noted.
Foreigner: By the way, what was that name again?

freecocoa: STFU you buffoon,you must be really stup1d.

Jealous of wetin? A federal university?inshort you are more stup1d than i thought and what exactly did you do on the so called thread you are referring to?

You must really be obsessed with me to even remember whatever happened on any thread,I don't even know you exist until now.

I can say whatever i like on this thread and any other one for that matter, you and any hediot that doesn't like it can do go ahead and join the useless MALU students in protesting. Blawdy morafoker.

Ileke-IdI:
So you'd just go and paint the house without informing the tenant? Without them even knowing of your intention to repaint it?
That's unlikely to happen in a civilized society.

ndu_chucks:

If you can't come up with real heroes, why idolize a common thief and try to immortalize him this way? That is a good question for GEJ

Beaf:

Who is going to do it? You, a coward that was so scared to come home when a girl threatened to deal with you on NL?
You even opened a thread to ask others about your safety and if the girl could get you. Lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

Cowards are funny!