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Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by Nobody: 2:12pm On Jun 23, 2012
afam4eva: The average Nigerian leader is selfish. The same people aho are against state creation are clamouring for state police. Where will the money used to fund state police come from? Is it not from the FG?
WTF is this crap you just posted?! :/
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by Ngwakwe: 2:17pm On Jun 23, 2012
alj harem: I am sorry but in my post I would use some harsh words but I would say nothing but the truth here for those with brains to follow

1. Those that disagree with Fashola here or even insult him are either the enemy of progress or just love the current system of corruption.

2. @ Ngwakwe, maybe it is bigotry that made you not to think properly before posting or something but you call Fashola a hypocrite because he would loot more ? That is the da.ftest statement on Nairaland all month, quote me on this.

You all better start thinking and don't mortgage your children's future because of bigotry

Just address what I said and the reason for calling your god (Fashola) a hypocrite.

Why didn't he dissolve those Development Authorities (of which I'm in support of their creation). He went ahead and conducted elections in more than 50 LGA/CDAs instead of constitutional approved 20 Lgas.

Just because Lagos State is not going to benefit from creation of more States, its now a bad idea but if it was for the creation of more LGAs for Lagos State to balance it with what Kano State has by virtue of Lagos State population, it would have been a welcome development.

Hypocrites
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by PeterKbaba: 2:30pm On Jun 23, 2012
CLICK ON THIS LINK AND WATCH FASHOLA TALK ABOUT THE AMENDMENT OF THE 1999 CONSTITUTION

http://www.tundefashola.com/archives/videos/2012/06/22/20120622V01.wmv
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by aljharem(m): 2:50pm On Jun 23, 2012
Ngwakwe:

Just address what I said and the reason for calling your god (Fashola) a hypocrite.

Why didn't he dissolve those Development Authorities (of which I'm in support of their creation). He went ahead and conducted elections in more than 50 LGA/CDAs instead of constitutional approved 20 Lgas.

Just because Lagos State is not going to benefit from creation of more States, its now a bad idea but if it was for the creation of more LGAs for Lagos State to balance it with what Kano State has by virtue of Lagos State population, it would have been a welcome development.

Hypocrites

Again my brother, you are not making any sense here. This man is literally tell you that the states we have in Nigeria today are not even viable not to talk of creation of more states and you are here saying crap. The only hypocrite here is you because if you want more state creation then Lagos state also proposed Lagoon state thus more fund for them.

Who loses, those that worth nothing or the person that worth's something and would even get more. Why do you think Tinubu supported the creation of Lagoon state by Fashola rejected it ? You think he has anything to lose from that ? SMH you are indeed not thinking at all.

http://lagoonstatemovement.org/justification.html

Thus the real indigenes of Lagos are gearing up for Eko state and Lagoon state. Fashola is the thinking man here and you are still saying rubbish.

Since the creation of Abia and Ebonyi, what have they achieved for Nigeria ? Ekiti and Osun and not any better as well. Zamfara, Nassarawa, Jigawa and co are not any better as well.

It is time to start thinking but if likes of you want to go through this insane path, then so be it we shall see who go lose at the end of the day.

BTW Fashola is not my god but simply better than all Nigerian governors I have seen.
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by Nobody: 2:50pm On Jun 23, 2012
alj harem:
1. Those that disagree with Fashola here or even insult him are either the enemy of progress or just love the current system of corruption.
Mr man keep quiet!
Fashola is wrong this time

1. State creation enables faster development and growth. Thats a fact!
2. The local government system has failed. In case you don't know, 27 states don't have an elective LG council in place. Even in states where there are elected LG councils, the state governors nullify the councils at will and mosttimes, they withhold LG funds or even misappropriate them. The LG chairmen are nothing but stooges to state governors. To state governors: more LG, more funds to loot and play with. Ask Orji Uzor Kalu
3. The immunity clause is anachronistic and has no place in a democracy. We are battling with corruption in Nigeria, and we don't need laws that encourage corruption, they are immoral. The immunity clause is immoral and it needs to be removed.
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by aljharem(m): 2:55pm On Jun 23, 2012
J12:
Mr man keep quiet!
Fashola is wrong this time

1. State creation enables faster development and growth. Thats a fact!
2. The local government system has failed. In case you don't know, 27 states don't have an elective LG council in place. Even in states where there are elected LG councils, the state governors nullify the councils at will and mosttimes, they withhold LG funds or even misappropriate them. The LG chairmen are nothing but stooges to state governors. To state governors: more LG, more funds to loot and play with. Ask Orji Uzor Kalu
3. The immunity clause is anachronistic and has no place in a democracy. We are battling with corruption in Nigeria, and we don't need laws that encourage corruption, they are immoral. The immunity clause is immoral and it needs to be removed.




You say he is wrong but yet agreed with him ? *the two highlight* What exactly are you saying ?

2. Sir what has Abia, Ekiti, Ebonyi, Jigawa, Zamfara, etc all achieved since their creation ?

3. Why not join the states together ? In reality Nigeria should not have more 6 states.

Go figure
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by Sealeddeal(m): 3:15pm On Jun 23, 2012
Fashola is talking from SW point of view.he should have used that same medium to tell Nationa assembly to abolish the non-viable states.he is talking abt LG because the lagos situation now need more of LG.SE need additional states whether viable or non-viable.Actually,he talked like he feel dat nigeria is not regional anymore.As long as we remain regional,the principle of equity must play its role in state creation.i would've accepted his statement if he said dat the states should be brought 2geda and we practice regional govt.
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by Nobody: 3:29pm On Jun 23, 2012
alj harem:

You say he is wrong but yet agreed with him ? *the two highlight* What exactly are you saying ?

2. Sir what has Abia, Ekiti, Ebonyi, Jigawa, Zamfara, etc all achieved since their creation ?

3. Why not join the states together ? In reality Nigeria should not have more 6 states.

Go figure

How the hell did I agree with him, he's opposing the removal of the immunity clause while i'm not.

What have they achieved? More roads, schools, employment, hospitals, development that would have never been realised if they weren't an autonomous state.

Merging states would be ideal, but we're past that phase.
Why shouldn't nigeria have more than six states?
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by Twoboys: 3:41pm On Jun 23, 2012
The same reasons offered by our own Fashola for not supporting creation of new states apply also to new local govts. How many local councils today are viable? The only thing that reminds us of the existance of local councils are different revenue committees of the councils going around embarassing and harassing nigerians and small businesses with all manner of levies. The other reminder are the numerous caretakers committee appointed by the governors to serve their own interest. Lets just focus one having the existing numbers of states and LG to function effectively. None of the two is a neccessity to be duplicated under the current realities.
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by porka: 4:00pm On Jun 23, 2012
Sorrrrrrry Mr Fashola, that's life. Just bear with the situation okay.

Ikorodu and Epe are both going to the proposed Ijebu State, while the Lagoon State is a reality.

If you had done something in these two locations, there won't have been much to attract them to their kinsmen in Ogun State.

There would still be Lagos sha... Eko o ni baje o
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by Olalekan0(m): 4:10pm On Jun 23, 2012
lacasa: Ђδω i pray dis man be president
You're the biggest fool on here.God forbids that fashola becomes president otherwise All roads will be concessioned and tolled,doctors sacked,schools and transportation unaffordable,taxes will be higher than what obtaines in europe-he might even tax you for sleeping with your wife,his weekly salary and emoluments will be three times more than 100 million nigerians earn and above all all businesses and lands in the country will be owned by himself and his boss-Tinubu
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by Dede1(m): 4:17pm On Jun 23, 2012
Fashola has exemplified one of the reasons Nigeria tends to gravitate towards the area of greater disorder. The main reason why Nigerians opted for democratic system of government is its basic adherence to equality of all men before the political process. If mere viability of certain area is the reason we choose a particular system of government, democracy will board last.

Therefore it is an art of political irresponsibility for Fashola to adduce viability as a major precursor for state creation.
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by dayokanu(m): 4:32pm On Jun 23, 2012
Sensible advice

Go ACN
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by four4: 5:00pm On Jun 23, 2012
dcitizen: i support the creation of more states for regional equity, justice and fainess. all the six geopolitical zones must have equal states that is seven states each from each region. the creation of more states by the military administration is not on the basis of economic viability but on the basis of the ease of administration and unbalanced distribution of national income to the advantage of the north. the reality on ground today is that all the states of the federation largely depends on allocation or handout from the federal government including the lagos. fashola should pls stop insulting the intelligence and sensibility of the Nigerian. why is he agitating for more local government council creation? are the local government council in lagos viable economically? is lagos state ready to merge wit ogun state to form one state because both states are not viable economically. why is he calliing on the federal government to recognise lagos state as a special? fashiola should try to be a good student of history and stop his frog-like behaviour.when the capital of nigeria was moved from calabar to lagos, the resources from the niger delta region which would have been used to develop the region was used to develop lagos state becos it is the capital. most of the infrastructure in lagos was fully developed by the federal government and creation of more states which is political will allows the equitable flow of income from federal government and international institution for development and create a sense of ownership and sheer determination for development. fashola should note that it is the income from the federal government that is used to maintain the federal government structure in lagos. if he want lagos to be recognise as a special state, let lagos state remain in isolation from the south-west state as it was before it became a state
let me quote u first "creation of more states which is political will allow d equatable flow of income from federal government...." It sound like lazy man world... When Everybody are clamouring 4 true federalism when every state will be financially independent nd develope at their own space, you are thinking of siting down in one village,doing nothing,contributing nothing to the central government, just come and collecte oil money every month in abuja, is that what government is all about to you?? Also go check ur record, lagos is not like your parisite state, lagos is collecting less than 10 bills monthly from federal while he is generating over 30 bills monthly,even before fct move in to lagos it was indepedent nd viable that was why fct was move into it initially nd is d only state outside. Some niger delta state dat can stand on her own in nigeria, recall when Obasanjo cease lagos allocation for almost three years and tht was why it does not stop lag from paying salaries nd building new infrastructure then. Abi Una wan suck niger delta dry with this una moshroom wey una de called state because more state more money for una clueless governor that know nothing on how 2 generete income than 2 go abuja
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by FOLLEY20(m): 5:23pm On Jun 23, 2012
Delafruita:
LGAs are important to the development of the grassroot and are mainly dependent on allocation from the FG and subvention from their state governors.a state like lagos shouldnt have 20 LGAs while less populated states have 30 or even 40
In fact, d story l want 2 hear from senate now is HOW & WHEN WILL NIGERIA BE DISINTEGRATED INTO (@ least) 3 COUNTRIES? i.e. Republic of Boko Haram, Republic of Biafra & Oduduwa Republic.
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by four4: 5:46pm On Jun 23, 2012
playmode: Just by reading some of the comments here ,it is not hard to realize what is wrong with this nation.Nigeria is barely larger than than texas but Nigerian monkey Negros still want to keep creating new state.Once a negro always a negro.No wonder they say black people have a smaller cortex than the rest of the human race.

Go to Asia, countries like South Korea and Indonesia now have 1GB per sec internet while we the monkeys of Nigeria who do not even have ADSL are busy clamoring for state creation.Nigerians on average are extremely stupid that is why we go overseas and engage in the only thing we are good at : crime!
thumps up for u guy, I do not known why we are so selfish, if we continue like this my street we turn to state,a community turn to state,a village turn to state, all in the name of equality and development
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by four4: 5:53pm On Jun 23, 2012
playmode: Just by reading some of the comments here ,it is not hard to realize what is wrong with this nation.Nigeria is barely larger than than texas but Nigerian monkey Negros still want to keep creating new state.Once a negro always a negro.No wonder they say black people have a smaller cortex than the rest of the human race.

Go to Asia, countries like South Korea and Indonesia now have 1GB per sec internet while we the monkeys of Nigeria who do not even have ADSL are busy clamoring for state creation.Nigerians on average are extremely stupid that is why we go overseas and engage in the only thing we are good at : crime!
thumps up for u guy, I do not known why we are so selfish, if we continue like this my street we turn to state,a community turn to state,a village turn to state, all in the name of equality b and development and what ve benefited 4rm those created?? More poverty, more corruption, more irresponsible bunch of people called governor
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by Nobody: 7:07pm On Jun 23, 2012
Return to 12 states structure(that was the last time Nigeria worked). Remove immunity (has made a mokery of governance). Return the country to paliamentary democracy(this system is too expensive, complex, unworkable.).
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by norabenok: 7:11pm On Jun 23, 2012
Fashola, it is not a perception that the southeast area is marginalised through state creation, it is true. State creation was meant to redistribute development funds to all over Nigeria. To that regard, education of future generations should be Nigeria's priority number one. Today, the number of students in one state in the southeast by far outnumbers the total number from six northwest states. Put the other way, the southeast is under funded and its area getting underdeveloped due to its five-states only structure. But the southeast gives its oil and gas revenues to Nigeria. People in the area are under represented in Nigeria's polity. Those southeast people who live in Lagos must resort to the 5 states in the southeast for anything in Nigeria. So is Fashola not selfish by suggesting creating of LGAs instead of new states? A sixth state in the southeast must be created now. As for immunity, whoever his hands are clear must not be afraid of the law.
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by Dede1(m): 7:43pm On Jun 23, 2012
norabenok :
Fashola, it is not a perception that the southeast area is marginalised through state creation, it is true. State creation was meant to redistribute development funds to all over Nigeria. To that regard, education of future generations should be Nigeria's priority number one. Today, the number of students in one state in the southeast by far outnumbers the total number from six northwest states. Put the other way, the southeast is under funded and its area getting underdeveloped due to its five-states only structure. But the southeast gives its oil and gas revenues to Nigeria. People in the area are under represented in Nigeria's polity. Those southeast people who live in Lagos must resort to the 5 states in the southeast for anything in Nigeria. So is Fashola not selfish by suggesting creating of LGAs instead of new states? A sixth state in the southeast must be created now. As for immunity, whoever his hands are clear must not be afraid of the law.


Not Six, Bros. It should be seven for southeast zone to equal number of states in one certain political zone in the jungle. If the all states in certain zone are economically unviable, what political concern or headache does it give to Fashola, Lagos State or Southwest zone? Why are Nigerians so insecure and ridiculously selfish?

I guess when Nigeria slide into the path of disintegration, Fashola will mount the political pulpit to tell agitators their nation will not be viable economically. Please someone should inform Fashola to stop using one brush to paint every item on a political block.
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by norabenok: 10:48pm On Jun 23, 2012
@Dede1,
Yea, Fashola's bombshell is part of the tribal politics of deception that has made Nigeria a non viable country, despite its enormous oil wealth. When you consider that Nigeria was once on the old tripod of north, southeast and southwest regions, but was latter re-engineered to the now 6 geopolitical zones, you realise that however you balance the number of states in the six zones, the corenorth must continue to excel above all others in Nigeria politically. So we merely ask for two or one more states in the southeast in other to have a semblance of equity and tranquillity in Nigeria's political process. But some Nigerians who believe they are foxier than others continue to pollute the atmosphere.
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by Nobody: 7:14am On Jun 24, 2012
Nigeria does not need to create more states nor state police-we need state reduction to its minimal level.
Re: Fashola Rejects Creation Of Additional States by hassey(m): 8:33am On Jun 24, 2012
State creation is gud cus it will creat oportunity for jobs both at d federal, state and local gov‘t. I tink is a welkom plan.

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