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| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by joe4christ(m): 8:57pm On Jul 03, 2012 |
gbadexy: I've been doing some thinking and weighing options. I would keep asking questions till I am satisfied. I will ask about both books.Ephesians 2.8 8 God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can’t take credit for this; it is a gift from God. 9 Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it. Roman 6:1 1 Well then, should we keep on sinning so that God can show us more and more of his wonderful grace? 2 Of course not! Since we have died to sin, how can we continue to live in it? |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by Bella3(f): 1:51pm On Jul 27, 2012 |
@op did u ever hear Jesus say he is God? Did u see trinity in ur bible? Did Jesus nt worship the Father? How then can he be God? As Christains, we are to live by Christ, hence, worship the father. JESUS said believe in me, worship the father, and ask in my name. He neva said 'worship me. Christains believe in trinity becos it helps their faith (thats strange to you nd me). Bt that is nt what Jesus preached. Believe in Jesus and practise wat he preaches, nt wat christains of today preach. The early christains whose books are in the bible, neva refered to Jesus as God. Trinity is a pagan practise nt found in the bible. Jesus is our master as christains, as God is his master which automaticaly makes us his subjects. However, this doesnt mean we should serve Jesus, bt his Father as he told us to. We only ask for things throug him. He is our link to the Father, this doesnt make him the Father. May God grant u understanding. AMEN. 1 Like |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by gbadexy(m): 10:06pm On Jul 27, 2012 |
Thank you. Your response is the most impressive post by any christians and can be related with |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by Bella3(f): 10:28pm On Jul 27, 2012 |
gbadexy: Thank you.you r welcome. |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by Bella3(f): 10:29pm On Jul 27, 2012 |
gbadexy: Thank you.you are welcome. |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by joe4christ(m): 10:08am On Jul 28, 2012 |
Bélla3: @op did u ever hear Jesus say he is God? Did u see trinity in ur bible? Did Jesus nt worship the Father? How then can he be God? I would'nt be condemned by heaven for calling you an ignoramus fool, cos that is exactly what you are, you sincerely dont know God, neither do you have a personal relationship with him, if u do you would'nt have made the above statement, do u think we serve a God that is dead? My God is alive and he still speaks and relates with his own and his own hear his voice, the voice of a stranger they will not listen to, if only you are his or matured enough you would have heard from him and he would have revealed deeper things of God's kingdom to you so u dont spew that rubish from that mouth of yours. I can give you a thousand and one scriptures that proclaimed Jesus as lord and God, and if only you understand the contex and meaning of the phrase Lord that was used in reference to Jesus it's same as that used in old tastement in reference to yahwey. But i'm only gonna leave you with just one scripture to punder on [size=15pt] John 1:1 - 1 In the beginning the Word already existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He existed in the beginning with God. 3 God created everything through him, and nothing was created except through him. 4 The Word gave life to everything that was created, a and his life brought light to everyone. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness can never extinguish it. John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us. King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) 1Timothy 3:16 - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. John 10:30-31 I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. John 10:38-39 The Father is in me, and I in him. Therefore they sought again to take him John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God. Colossians 2:9 For in him [Jesus] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 1 Timothy 3:16 God was made manifest in the flesh. Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ. I can go on and on and on but i am gonna leave you with this few to punder upon. God help you![/size] |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by Bella3(f): 11:28am On Jul 28, 2012 |
joe4christ:i can believe Jesus is God, bt wat about the Holy spirit? TRINITY is a pagan practice!!! |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by Sweetnecta: 11:56am On Jul 28, 2012 |
if Jesus was God, only John it becuase Mark, Luke and Matthew didn't say as much as John did. If the evidence was there, it will be known to all, not just John, a lone descent. See when it comes to truth, the 4 mentioned them; There is God. There were Zacharia, his wife, John, Mary and Jesus. That's reality. |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by Nobody: 12:02pm On Jul 28, 2012 |
gbadexy: I'm a regular reasonable and objective guy. |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by joe4christ(m): 9:41pm On Jul 28, 2012 |
Sweetnecta: if Jesus was God, only John it becuase Mark, Luke and Matthew didn't say as much as John did. Now listen to what prophet isaiah of the old testament has to say about Jesus prior to his birth about thousands of years BC - Isaiah 9:6 King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. -- Does this ring a bell  Do you believe prophet isaiah prophecied the birth, live, death and assention of christ thousands of years before he was even born? Go to the book of isaiah and do research for yourself... |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by joe4christ(m): 10:26pm On Jul 28, 2012 |
Bélla3: i can believe Jesus is God, bt wat about the Holy spirit? TRINITY is a pagan practice!!! Philippians 2: 5 You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had. 6 Though he was God, a he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to. 7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges b ; he took the humble position of a slave c and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form, d 8 he humbled himself in obedience to God and died a criminal’s death on a cross. 9 Therefore, God elevated him to the place of highest honor and gave him the name above all other names, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good, and healing all who were oppressed by the devil; for God was with Him." ( Acts 10:38) |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by Bella3(f): 10:33pm On Jul 28, 2012 |
^ hw does that prove holy spirit is God? He was annoited with Holy spirit and power' does dat mean power is God too? TRINITY is a pagan practice! |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by joe4christ(m): 6:17pm On Jul 29, 2012 |
Here are some attributes of the Holy Spirit, take time to read it and get informed, it's a bit lengthy but just do yourself the favour of learning of the holyspirit. [size=15pt]And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you for ever; He is the Spirit of truth. The world cannot receive Him, because it does not see Him, neither do they know Him: but you know him; for he dwells with you, and shall be in you. (John 14:16-17) What a wonderful gift Jesus gave to us: the gift of the Holy Spirit. In some places He is referred to as the Holy Ghost, but they are both the same word in the original language. The Holy Spirit is the third part of the Godhead, the third portion of the Divine Trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. He is the Comforter sent by Jesus, after He ascended back into heaven. He is given to all who have received Jesus as their Lord and Savior. There are seven things that we need to understand about the Holy Spirit. We know that, in the Bible, seven is the number of completion, or perfection, and these seven different attributes of the Holy Spirit are indeed perfect and complete. We can depend on these wonderful attributes of the Holy Spirit, all the time, in every circumstance. 1. The Holy Spirit is a loving Comforter. When we face trials and tribulations in life, whose words are more important in comforting our hearts: someone who doesn't know us and love us, or someone who knows every single thing about us, and loves us anyway. The Holy Spirit has loved us since before the creation of the world. He has loved us well. He has loved us forever, and He will love us for all eternity. Only He is able to truly comfort our hearts, because no one loves us as He does. And hope makes us unashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us. (Romans 5:5) 2. He is a faithful Comforter. People, even those who love us, can sometimes fail us. They are sometimes unfaithful. And it hurts us - an unfaithful friend is sharper than a serpent's tooth, more bitter than gall. We despair when someone who loves us in prosperity forsakes us in the time of trouble, yet God's Holy Spirit would never do that. He loves us even to the end, for He alone is faithful. Sin cannot separate us from His love; no, indeed, He loved us while we were still dead in our sins. He loved us knowing what the sum total of our wickedness would be. All of our goodness could never make Him love us more, and all of our sin can never make Him love us any less. We can fully trust in Him, for He is ever faithful. He will never leave us, but will be with us until the end, and beyond. Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that you may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost. (Romans 15:13) 3. He is an untiring Comforter. Sometimes when we try to comfort persons in their affliction or tribulation, we find it is beyond us, and we grow weary and quit. There are some people who cannot or will not be comforted, infact, the more we try to comfort them, the worse they get. Often then, we lose heart, leaving them alone and feeling sorry for themselves. The Holy Spirit never loses heart, however, pursuing even those who believe they are beyond comforting. He is never wearied, not by our sins, not by our murmurings and complainings, not even by our stubborn refusal to accept the comfort He freely offers. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. (John 14:26) 4. He is a wise Comforter. We are often surrounded by people who think they are wise, and yet they are not able to look into the heart and uncover the root of our disease. Like Job's friends, people give us wrong advice, just like a doctor can dispense wrong medicine. Sometimes. Like wrong medicine, it may not hurt us, even though it doesn't cure our disease. Other times it may be harmful, or even deadly. It is very easy for us to mistake the disease, whether our own or someone else's. To correctly diagnose a spiritual disease requires perfect wisdom. Thus the Holy Spirit in wisdom lays out the soul on the operating table of God's love and dissects it in only a moment. He finds the root of the matter, what is causing the disease. He not only finds the problem, but cures it. He cuts away whatever hidden sins that may be causing the problem, and at the same time, bandages hidden wounds that also afflict us. Thus our wise Comforter offers healing for all of our diseases, making us perfect and acceptable in the eyes of God. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. (1 Cor. 2:10) 5. He is a safe Comforter. Very often friends and family offer unsafe advice when we are in the midst of trials and tribulations. Any advice that follows the knowledge of this world is unsafe advice. Remember that Satan himself sometimes comes as a false comforter, assuring us that all is well when it is not, and casting doubt on the word of God. Remember, Cleopatra's asp was brought in amidst a basket of flowers, and ruination often lurks in fair and sweet speeches. But the comfort of the Holy Spirit is safe; you may rest in it, and trust it. Let Him speak the word, and give you the cup of consolation, which you may drink to the bottom for there are no bitter dregs, and nothing in it to intoxicate or bring ruin. The Holy Spirit knows the heart of God and the will of God, and his comfort will never go contrary to those, so we can safely trust in it. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Ghost teaches; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. (1 Cor. 2:13) 6. He is an active Comforter. He does not comfort merely by words, but by deeds. He intercedes for us, reminding us of God's great promises and His grace. He will never leave us or forsake us, but instead actively leads and guides us to the perfect will of the Father. Likewise the Spirit also helps our infirmities: for we do not know what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And He that searches the hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God. (Romans 8:26-27) 7. He is an ever present Comforter. We never have to send for Him, for He is always right there with us. He will never leave us alone, nor forsake us. We can reach out to Him in our distress, whenever we need comfort, and know that He is there. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you for ever. (John 14:16)[/size] |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by joe4christ(m): 7:35pm On Jul 29, 2012 |
Bélla3: i can believe Jesus is God, bt wat about the Holy spirit? [size=15pt] TRINITY is a pagan practice!!![/size] What Are u kidding me  Are u telling me you haven'nt come across these scriptures? - Colossians 2:9 For in Christ all the fullness of the [size=15pt]Deity[/size] (Godhead) lives in bodily form - Does that ring a bell to u? Now check this out: Colossians 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his [size=15pt]fullness[/size] dwell in him - have u ever wondered what the fullness of God is all about? Now the killing verse: Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the[size=15pt] Father [/size]and of the [size=15pt]Son[/size] and of the[size=15pt] Holy Spirit[/size] - Do you bother to know what that name was? Need i give you one more possibly last dosage Now take this: Luke 3:21 When all the people were being baptized, [size=15pt]Jesus[/size] was baptized too. And as he was praying, heaven was opened 22 and the [size=15pt]Holy Spirit[/size] descended on him in bodily form like a dove. [size=15pt] And a voice came from heaven:[/size] (God The Father Speaking as confirmed by 2peter 1:17 ) “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” - Do you not see the connection of the Godhead manifesting collectively in Luke 3:21 Let me just leave you with this few else you get overdosed and which would eventually lead to the level of great confusion. Peace - Joe4christ!!! |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by Nobody: 5:46am On Jan 13, 2013 |
Allah and Yahweh butthurt... |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by Nobody: 6:13am On Jan 13, 2013 |
musKeeto: Allah and Yahweh butthurt... I suppose muskeeto has nothing else to do but bump up old threads?  |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by Nobody: 6:20am On Jan 13, 2013 |
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| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by Nobody: 7:12am On Mar 18, 2013 |
Nothing good comes from argument of any sort and in that we must see past arguments and begin to realize what the words of God truly is. Be it the Torah, the Koran or the Bible, one thing remains constant in all these books and that is the willingness of our God head to ensure we live amicably amongst ourselves and in peace as well with him always. I do not care where you are or what religion you believe in but in your book, what does it say about love and what does your heard remind you as well about hurting others? I am a Christian and i am not perfect but can come openly and willingly before the Father in the perfection of Jesus Christ cause that is why he laid his life for me. I can pray in the name if Jesus cause he has allowed me a priestly nature that opens a path to our Creator, the God of the Heavens and The Earth. Then in living life here on earth, we are born anew into a new life with Jesus Christ as our head and we as the various members of the body. If a part of the body does not function perfectly, don't you think it would affect the whole? Jesus is crucified over and over again in pain and turmoil by the nature of these absurd arguments that comes from the logical minds and if your minds remain too mature for God to reveal his ways to you, how can you even understand the simple development of a new born into a fully grown man/woman? It is accounted that we must die only once and after that comes judgement, how can you believe this when you cannot even surrender to the fact that God is God and we are created in his image? In the eye of a child can we truly see the nature of the first man who truly fell cause of a simple choice of misunderstanding but Christ has come so that such choices as we make very frequent these days would not deny us God's presence with grace but rather he is our strength when we are weak, our health when we fall sick, our wholeness when we truly are empty. Stop wondering about God and start believing him, it takes two to tango and when you want to tango with your father in heaven, you must trust him with everything that he has made available around you. Focus on his heart, his nature and you would understand that what the books listed above did not reveal to you, his Holy spirit that lives in each of us would reveal more to you and that is more embedding than the list of rules stated in any book ever written. God is a perfect God and any who must come to him, must come to him in truth, and perfection in which no man but one could attain and that who has attained has allowed us the avenue to use his name to come to the father whenever we must and if you do understand this simple principle, you are a Christian by understanding, in application and seeing results, that is how your faith is built and finally when you begin to share your testimonies, you are a full disciple not ordained by anyone but by the spirit that reigns within you and walks alongside the wisdom of the Lord. Seek God always and he will make your days filled with abundance that no one can compare to his greatness within you but for those who would understand the mystery of the Father, the Son and the Holy spirit. Stay blessed brethren and God speed. 1 Like |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by oaroloye(m): 5:29pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
gbadexy: NO ONE has EVER been "BORN INTO CHRISTIANITY." REAL Christianity means FOLLOWING THE TEACHINGS of YAHSHUA. Which has NEVER happened before. Like most people in the world, we just want to worship our creator, simple. Most religions preach dogma where you don't question but just accept on faith so most people remain in the religion they were born into. REALLY? What constitutes "WORSHIP?" What do you do as a Muslim? You worship ALLAH, five times per day. How does that work out for you? THAT is NOT worship of ANYTHING- because it gets NO RESULTS! Is that what you think that CHRISTIANITY is supposed to be? All the Churches whose "WORSHIP" also goes unanswered are equally worthless. But NONE of them is THE GOSPEL Yahshua preached. Now, I'm just trying to feel around to see if christianity, which is the only other reasonable religion according to me, should be the one to practice in other to fnd God's favour, afterall nobody has come back from heaven to tell us which is acceptable except some questionable and unverified claims. An intelligent person would read what Lord YAHSHUA himself had to say for himself, rather than what others said THEY THOUGHT people should do- WHICH YOU CAN SEE IS NOT WORKING. According to islam, Jesus comes from the spirit of God (Isa Nuhu llah) I hope that's the spelling, but that's the pronunciation. And islam corroborates his immaculate conception. ISLAM corroborates NOTHING. It is not that I do not believe in "THE VIRGIN BIRTH" of YAHSHUA- there is just no record of YAHSHUA telling us that we had to believe in it. If he had taught he had been born of a VIRGIN, even ONCE, all of his Disciples would have been ARRESTED and EXECUTED. There is NO WAY that the Jews would have accepted such a claim. Now, aren't we all from the spirit of God? And if we assume that Jesus is God's son, would a prince in any kingdom get more praise and recognition than the king? I have heard outright proclamation that Jesus is God and I hear his praise and worship more. That happens all the time, in any Kingdom- when the PRINCE is active and about, while the KING is a recluse, who just "floats" commands from time-to-time. Don't you know PRINCE CHARLES? Do you know his FATHER? Also, if I agree that God almighty has a son , making them two, what is the holy spirit? Doesn't God's spirit exist in Him and Jesus already? Does both God and jesus spirit have to be lumped together in another entity making them three different entity? I know Jesus is an independent entity with independent thought but with unquestionable devotion to God, so would the same Holy spirit dwell in two different entity? If they are the same, why would the Almighty split Himself in two and have His lesser part act as intercessor. Show where LORD YAHSHUA asked people to crack their brains on such nonsense? The Gospel is VERY SIMPLE. Finally, Adam was just a vessel that God breathe into to animate him, is God's breath different from His spirit, and if Eve had no mother, whose spirit is in her and what would that make her? Who gives a shit? What are ADAM and EVE going to do for me? It is YAHSHUA who is The SAVIOUR. I don't need to bother my head with all that useless speculation! If we needed to, Lord Yahshua would have TOLD us. . JOHN 14:21-27. 21. "He that hath my Commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him." 22. Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, "Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the World?" 23. Jesus answered and said unto him, "If a man love me, he will keep my Words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 24. "He that loveth me not keepeth not my Sayings: and The Word which ye hear is not mine, but The Father's which sent me. 25. "These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26. "But the Comforter, Which is The Holy Ghost, Whom the Father will send in my Name, He shall Teach you All Things, and bring All Things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. 27. "Peace I leave with you, my Peace I give unto you: not as the World giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid." I need intelligent answers and superior argument to enlighten and convince me. NO. . MARK 1:14-15, 14. Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching The Gospel of The Kingdom of God, 15. And saying, "The time is fulfilled, and The Kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe The Gospel." YOU NEED TO REPENT OF YOUR SINS. If you do not Repent, there is NO HOPE for you! I don't want quotes from the Bible as answers, any verse or quote can be twisted by anybody to give a million different interpretation and meaning. I expect logical answers. That is STUPIDITY itself! How DARE you talk about "INTELLIGENCE!" . PROVERBS 1:1-7. 7.THE Proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel; 2. To Know Wisdom and Instruction; to perceive the Words of Understanding; 3. To receive the Instruction of Wisdom, Justice, and Judgment, and Equity; 4. To give subtilty to the Simple, to the Young Man Knowledge and Discretion. 5. A Wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a Man of Understanding shall attain unto Wise Counsels: 6. To understand a Proverb, and the Interpretation; the Words of The Wise, and their Dark Sayings. 7. The Fear of The LORD is The Beginning of Knowledge: but Fools despise Wisdom and Instruction. IF YOU DON'T FEAR YAHWEH GOD, you DON'T have ANY wherewithal to LEARN anything! You have SINNED, that is why you cannot SEE. Yet you want to tell us what is intelligent, and what is not? . JOB 28:28. 28. "And unto Man He Said, 'BEHOLD, THE FEAR OF THE LORD, THAT (IS) WISDOM; AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL (IS) UNDERSTANDING.' " . DANIEL 12:10. 10. "Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the Wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the Wise shall understand." THE ONLY THING STOPPING YOU FROM UNDERSTANDING IS YOUR OWN EVIL. THE SPIRIT OF GOD will give you all the answers you need, but you have to relinquish your hold on EVIL. |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by gbadexy(m): 8:29pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
^ sorry bro. no time for unproductive and irrelevant rant. I don't have the time to spare reading this epistle. I'm strongly rooted in islam and I didn't remember this thread even exists. |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by harbjar(m): 11:31am On Jun 03, 2018 |
gbadexy:its obvious you haven't studied your islam well enough... Quran Says [3:59] The example of Jesus, as far as GOD is concerned, is the same as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, "Be" so he becomes. they both were created with the word of Allah... I'd adviced you to study islam well and xtainity.... Watch videos of ahm3d deedat on YouTube May Allah grant you understanding anf saVe you fRom misguidance |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by Primesky(m): 1:09pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
You don't need no further arguments to be convinced, you need faith. Jesus Christ gave you all the evidence you can ask for since He gave His life for you on the cross. That's enough evidence. |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by gbadexy(m): 1:27pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
Thanks all for your time. I don't do religious debates anymore. I'm firmly rooted in my faith and I respect other's religious belief. 1 Like |
| Re: I Need A Superior Argument To Convert To Christianity by sonmvayina(m): 1:59pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
joe4christ: There is no such thing like the true God, because there is only 1.. It is the name that people have chosen to call it that is different.. You dont expect me an igbo man to refer to God with a yoruba word... Or a Swedish word.. What we call Chukwu is what yoruba call Olorun or Eledumare is what Bini calls Osanobua is what the jews/babylonian calls Marduk... Etc. The stories might also be different but the messages in all of them are the same... The jews might decide to use Adam, Even, Abraham.. Etc and the Bini use Ogun, Esu, Olomila etc, the message is that we are divine beings having a human experience... Comprende ? |
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