Lord_Reed:

Guys take a hard look at your motivations and admit what it is you are struggling with because it sure isn't speaking in tongues, known or unknown.

diluminati:

typical christian hypocritical behavior.
trying to create a false impression of who he doesnt even know to the gullible ones. on another point, you are the one struggling with issues, you trying to displace it in a false impression on someone you dont even know.

FXKing2012:

So much hatred for Christians yet you cant do without them (lol). So who then is the real hypocrite?

diluminati:

typical christian hypocritical behavior.
trying to create a false impression of who he doesnt even know.

Lord_Reed:

@diluminati
Name calling starts when logic fails. Try again.

kene_slow:

I was born and raised in a Christian home.  However, as I've grown older and wiser I have been moving away from organized religion more and more.   

It is startling the extent to which people have refused to think with their God given brain.  Does it make any sense to you that God is speaking to you through his servant, yet you have not a clue what the person is saying? Oy Vey!  People open your minds, ask questions, and try to reason through things.  Don't be a sheep the follower, be a shepherd the leader.

The problem with religion in general is that is based on faith not fact or any discernible logic; hence every argument for it will be subjective.  Why then does the Christian doctrine condemn followers of another religion (if you are not a born again christian you will burn in the hell of fire)? Or say Muslims condemn Christians etc

Have you ever asked yourself why we are Christians, one God world without end yet we have a billion different denominations in the same Christianity?  Some denominations even refuse to get married to one from another denomination.


Anyway as for me today, I can never condemn or uplift any person based on their faith; Be you Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Traditionalist, Scientologist or whatever tickles your fancy.
Be a good person, live your life the right way, love your neighbor, and I believe great things await you in the afterlife ( or your next incarnation in life as a rabbit :-) ). 

Knowledge is Power; Carpe Diem!

BERNIMOORE:

IN A NUT SHELL,IF YOU MUST SPEAK IN TONGUE, THERE MUST BE AN INTERPRETER WHO WILL ACTUALLY TRANSLATE IT TO THE HEARERS, AND IF NOT, YOU HAVE 'VIOLATED THE LORDS COMMANDMENT' IN DOING IT YOUR OWN WAY, SIMPLE.


1COR 14:27,28,37 (KJV)

BERNIMOORE:

[b]MY QUESTION IS THAT,

SINCE THERE ARE STILL MORE SOUL TO WIN FOR JESUS, IN ALL RACES, LANGUAGES AND ALIEN RESIDENTS AMONG US, WHY DID THE ORIGINAL  PENTECOST 'TONGUE CEASES' WHICH OPEN A BARRIER THAT COULD 'PREVENT THE GOSPEL MESSAGE' TO ALIENS THAT IS 'CAUSING THEIR NATIVE LANGUAGE TO BE HEARD INSTANTLY'.


AND SINCE THERE ARE STILL MORE SOUL TO WIN FOR JESUS, IN ALL RACES, LANGUAGES AND ALIEN RESIDENTS AMONG US,

WHY CANT WE HAVE IT AGAIN, BUT WHAT WE HAVE NOW HAVE BEEN ABUSED SIMPLY BY DISREGARDING GODS COMMANDMENT RELATING TO 'TONGUE SPEAKING' BY DISREGARDING 'AN INTERPRETER TO THE AUDIENCE' HAS CLEARLY UNDERMINE THE PRACTICE. QUOTE AGAIN;

1COR 14:27,28,37 (KJV)



27If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.

28But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

37 If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord.



UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE PEOPLE DONT ASK ABOUT AN INTERPRETER LIKE PAUL DEMANDED,

A SELF CONFESSED FRAUDULENT MAN GAINED UNDESERVED FAME AT THE EXPENSE OF THE CHURCH IN THIS GUISE,(you can make your own reseach on him too)

Hugh Marjoe Ross Gortner,

generally known as Marjoe Gortner (born January 14, 1944 (age 68) in Long Beach, California), is a former revivalist who first gained a certain fame in the late 1940s when he became the youngest ordained preacher at the age of four.

He then gained outright notoriety in the 1970s when he starred in Marjoe, an Oscar-winning, behind-the-scenes documentary about the lucrative business of Pentecostal preaching. The name "Marjoe" is a portmanteau of the names "Mary" and "Joseph".

HEAR WHAT HE SAID;


"Tongues is something you learn," he emphasized. "It is a releasing that you teach yourself. You are told by your peers, the church, and the Bible -- if you accept it literally -- that the Holy Ghost speaks in another tongue; you become convinced that it is the ultimate expression of the spirit flowing through you. The first time maybe you'll just go dut-dut-dut-dut, and that's about all that will get out. Then you'll hear other people and next night you may go dut-dut-dut-UM-dut-DEET-dut-dut, and it gets a little better. The next thing you know, it's ela-hando-satelay-eek-condele-mosandrey-aseya , and it's a new language you've got down.

NOW, RELATING HOW THIS 'TONGUE SPEAKING' USED TO BE IN THE FIRST CHRISTIAN, ''IT USED TO BE SUDDEN'' AND NOT THROUGH PRACTICE, AND WITH THE MAIN PURPOSE OF DISSEMINATING A MESSAGE WHICH MUST BE EITHER TRANSLATED OR ACTUAL SPEAKING OF AN ACCEPTABLE 'LINGUA FRANCA' OF SOMEONE ELSE TO BENEFIT.

WHY THIS IS NECCESSARY IS BECAUSE, OF THIS DIRECTION GIVING BELOW TO ALL CHRISTIANS AS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY;
1 John 4:1

4 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

IF ANYONE WANTS TO REPLY HE SHOULD TELL US 'WHY THE INTERPRETER DEMANDED BY THE LORDS ALONGSIDE SPEAKING TONGUE WAS ACTUALLY VIOLATED OR ABANDONED FOR SELF PRACTICE OF TONGUE SPEAKING.

PLS WE ARE ALL LEARNING.


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IF ANYONE WANTS TO REPLY HE SHOULD TELL US 'WHY THE INTERPRETER DEMANDED BY THE LORDS ALONGSIDE SPEAKING TONGUE WAS ACTUALLY VIOLATED OR ABANDONED FOR SELF PRACTICE OF TONGUE SPEAKING.

Joagbaje:

@BEERNIMORE

what you're missing here is that. You only need interpretation when talking to men in tongues in form of preaching ,prophecy or exhortation .

But when you pray to God personally ,he needs no interpretation . Hope it answers your question.

It's not true. There are several kinds of speaking in tongues. If you preach to people in tongues ,you need to interprete but if you're praying to God in tongues that's perfectly normal ,you don't need interpretation. Every christian ought to speak in tongues.

Mark 16:17
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;.

1 Corinthians 14:39
Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

There are several kinds of speaking in tongues.

if the gift of interpretation is not manifested or converted after nowadays it doesn't make tongues fake.

@BERNIMOORE, I am specifically not giving time to your posts because I have actually answered them in mine. Go through my posts, especially the scriptures I gave you would fing your answer[/quote

NONE OF YOU POSTS ANSWERS WHAT YOU QUOTED FROM MY POST, MAYBE YOU NEED TO TAILOR YOUR ANSWER TO MY POST THAT YOU QUOTED .

BERNIMOORE:

@joeagbaje
PLS ANSWER THIS QUESTION WITH BIBLE QUOTES, DID JESUS SPEAK IN TONGUES?

IF NOT, Mark 16:17 shows 'new tongue in anticipation' AND WHEN IT EVENTUALLY ARRIVES, IT COMENCES WITH A STERN COMMAND 'THAT IF YOU MUST SPEAK IN TONGUE' THERE MUST BE AN INTERPRETER, OR YOU MUST SPEAK A DIRECT LANGUAGE OF OTHERS TO BENEFIT,PERIOD.

OR SPEAK TO YOURSELF 'ONLY' IN SILENCE, AND NOT 'LOUD' OR AUDIBLE TO THE CHURCH THATS THE COMMAND,

WHY DO YOU HAVE PROBLEM WITH ACCEPTING BIBLE COMMAND, YOU MAKE IT LOOK AS IF THOSE COMMAND SHOULD BE OVERLOOKED, NO SIR, ITS NOT ME THAT WROTE THEM.

There's nothing like silent prayer. Paul said concerning prophecy in tongues without interpretation, such man shoukd keep quiet. It has to do with prophecy.

BERNIMOORE:


@Stilldude,

JUST HEAR YOURSELF,ARE YOU SAYING THAT GODS HOLY SPIRIT IS CONFUSING?


THEN  FOLLOW THE 'COMMAND' TO 'KEEP SILENCE' OR REMAIN SILENCE, SPEAK WITH YOUR GOD ONLY' IN SILENCE, MAYBE FROM YOUR MIND, AT LEAST EVEN WHEN YOU DONT OPEN YOUR MOUTH, GOD READS YOUR MIND.

BUT REMEMBER WHAT PAUL SAYS;

PLS PLS PLS, LETS FOLLOW THE COMMAND.




1 COR 14;11,12,33.

11 Therefore, if I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be a foreigner to him who speaks, and he who speaks will be a foreigner to me.

12 Even so you, since you are zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the edification of the church that you seek to excel.
(33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.)

stildude:

. I have recommended a book (Tongues; beyond the upper room by kenneth Hagin), try and read it. some of the questions about wether Jesus spoke in tongues is also addressed there. .

BERNIMOORE:

@ joeagbaje,

WHERE IS PROPHECY HERE IN THIS 2 BIBLE VERSE BELOW?,

1cor 14:27,28

27If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.

28But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.