Kyase:


They all contested against the goat Buhari
Now the little little foxes are out

I love your imagery
What if the "goat" fends for one of the "fox"?

garfield1:


I dont know for pdp but apc will get in ebonyi and IMO.abia could join

I understand that you're an APC supporter, but you need to be logical and remove sentiments. Imo is PDP both at the federal level and state level.

If you think otherwise, then you are on your own.

slivertongue:


Politics in the North is not like what is obtained in the South. The protege is Yari. The North is campaigning on the capacity of a person not party, it's a careful way of saying the North owes no party allegiance.


Now get this clear, your constant refusal to believe Atiku is a candidate that commands respect and followership is the North changes nothing. The persons you mentioned are those close to him and play along when it becomes expedient. NNPP is Kano centric

Atiku commands followership among the elites not masses like kwankwaso.atiku treats his allies in a businesslike manner and only calls them when he wants to run elections.this has killed or weakened those links.on the otherhand,tinubu oils his alliances regularly.even if yerima was his ally,that relationship is dead.his true allies up north are lamido and muazu.others have moved closer to tinubu.tinubu also commands large respect among northerners even more than unstable atiku.
Yari has dethroned yerima as the new godfather of zamfara.yari is on the ballot and him working for atiku may make him lose his senate seat just like pdp local candidates lost out in 2015 and 2019.he would have been in the senate in 2019 if not for marafa.he won't take that risk again.zamfara voters are fanatics and kwankwaso will be attractive to them.highest atiku can hope for is 25%..
There is a mistake atiku likes making since 2007.he cannot alwatlts dump people and expect them to embrace him during elections.he cannot continually depend on his friends in other parties working for him.if he has friends in apc,it is better he makes them to defect to pdp and work.internal sabotage is very risky.tinubu and atiku have similar political strategies so anything he is planning,he should know tinubu is aware..
Another thing atiku does is that he loves surrounding himself with irrelevant people that cannot deliver their constituencies,clowns,jokers

Chenult:


I understand that you're an APC supporter, but you need to be logical and remove sentiments. Imo is PDP both at the federal level and state level.

If you think otherwise, then you are on your own.

IMO governor is apc.the pdp in IMO is divided into two factions and uzodinma has started clamping down on them.uzodinma has made apc to win elections in owerri zone.many in IMO pdp have joined lp.apc will beat pdp in IMO

ImmaculateJOE:

Obi will do that in the 5 SE states..

Just came back from East, almost everyone there is rooting for Obi, both APC and PDP members.

.the question is would they come out in large numbers? Will votes not be tampered

Aiel123:

I love your imagery
What if the "goat" fends for one of the "fox"?

Unless that
We’ll wait

Kyase:


Unless that
We’ll wait

Yes.We'll wait.
Things will get clearer as time passes...
As Garfield said by February,the picture will get clearer if who to carry the day.

garfield1:


Atiku commands followership among the elites not masses like kwankwaso.atiku treats his allies in a businesslike manner and only calls them when he wants to run elections.this has killed or weakened those links.on the otherhand,tinubu oils his alliances regularly.even if yerima was his ally,that relationship is dead.his true allies up north are lamido and muazu.others have moved closer to tinubu.tinubu also commands large respect among northerners even more than unstable atiku.
Yari has dethroned yerima as the new godfather of zamfara.yari is on the ballot and him working for atiku may make him lose his senate seat just like pdp local candidates lost out in 2015 and 2019.he would have been in the senate in 2019 if not for marafa.he won't take that risk again.zamfara voters are fanatics and kwankwaso will be attractive to them.highest atiku can hope for is 25%..
There is a mistake atiku likes making since 2007.he cannot alwatlts dump people and expect them to embrace him during elections.he cannot continually depend on his friends in other parties working for him.if he has friends in apc,it is better he makes them to defect to pdp and work.internal sabotage is very risky.tinubu and atiku have similar political strategies so anything he is planning,he should know tinubu is aware..
Another thing atiku does is that he loves surrounding himself with irrelevant people that cannot deliver their constituencies,clowns,jokers

Your fatal realism hasn't allowed you to interrogate the normatives. All you credit to Tinubu is transactional politics and inflated personality. I have told you long before now that Northern electorates ain't gonna be waiting for handouts from anyone. I have told you the election would be won and lost in the South but North I'll largely vote for a Northern contestant.

Aiel123:

Yes.We'll wait.
Things will get clearer as time passes...
As Garfield said by February,the picture will get clearer if who to carry the day.

January actually

Kyase:


January actually

Campaign would reach its peak in January.
I have a feeling that the election will be postponed.
It almost half of November and there's little to no campaign by the major parties.Pdp in particular have continued to shift the rally date of some states. They have not stuck to schedule.
Why do you say January

garfield1:


IMO governor is apc.the pdp in IMO is divided into two factions and uzodinma has started clamping down on them.uzodinma has made apc to win elections in owerri zone.many in IMO pdp have joined lp.apc will beat pdp in IMO

Kai, pedestrian

habsydiamond:
Beware of underdogs ooo.. in this coming election, some people will be surprised about the outcome.. it won't be about the money u disburse at the polling unit.. it will be purely base on the people's choice.

You are right. Minds are made already. Undecided vote is about 5-10%
Obi may surprise people sha in the core north

Aiel123:

Campaign would reach its peak in January.
I have a feeling that the election will be postponed.
It almost half of November and there's little to no campaign by the major parties.Pdp in particular have continued to shift the rally date of some states. They have not stuck to schedule.
Why do you say January

The parties are struggling with the state of the economy, they'll get moving in late January and February.

garfield1:


Not true.against atiku,buhari had 65%.with kwankwaso now,obi and tinubu,atiku can't have more than 40% of the north except you say he is more popular than buhari.in 2019,you claimed atiku will divide north.change your narrative please.north will be divided,it will favour obi

So are you saying tinubu Is more popular than atiku in the north.

Even a sitting gej couldn't defeat Buhari in the north west even when he was in cpc...
The earlier we realize that n.w is the most tribalistic region when it comes to presidency


We vote individuals in presidential election not party...

Check Nigeria election from 1999 till date

Aiel123:

Campaign would reach its peak in January.
I have a feeling that the election will be postponed.
It almost half of November and there's little to no campaign by the major parties.Pdp in particular have continued to shift the rally date of some states. They have not stuck to schedule.
Why do you say January

Yes PDP is just confuse they are battling issues internally and no hope in sight, the reason for the shift and the don’t want to rush campaign like they did in 2019

All things been equal “Ceteris paribus” as things stands
Apc are running with the election
Only Buhari and apc governors can change tinubu proposed win

garfield1:


I dont know for pdp but apc will get in ebonyi and IMO.abia could join

The APc that came fourth in the last govt. Election in IMO state.

OsunOriginal:


I just left kindergarten... Ode
The last I checked Kwakwanso was in the PDP at the time and still, they couldn't upstage the APC. Is it now that the PDP has broken into the old PDP and NNPP that the APC would lose?

I added the presidential election results in Kano to my previous response to you. PDP only got 21% of the vote in Kano with Buhari getting 78%. Again, what has changed?

Who was contesting under APC?

Aiel123:

Okay
What about career politicians in the east? Like Umahi and co( Their counterpart in PDP)

They know that can't fight Obi as it is now, it will back fire..
They are focused on delivering themselves and their candidates minus Presidency..

Kyase:


Yes PDP is just confuse they are battling issues internally and no hope in sight, the reason for the shift and the don’t want to rush campaign like they did in 2019

All things been equal “Ceteris paribus” as things stands
Apc are running with the election
Only Buhari and apc governors can change tinubu proposed win

Your last submission is on point.
No ruling party have lost when united.
The clerics and sheikh can still influence northern Nigeria election right?
I pray PDP get it right.
Should they lose in 2023,it will take more than a miracle to stay relevant.

ImmaculateJOE:

They know that can't fight Obi as it is now, it will back fire..
They are focused on delivering themselves and their candidates minus Presidency..

Some of them winning are tied to their presidential candidate victory.
Uzodinmma comes to mind.

slivertongue:



The parties are struggling with the state of the economy, they'll get moving in late January and February.

Oh. The economy is hitting them!
How many states can they cover in that space of late January to mid February?

garfield1:

.the question is would they come out in large numbers? Will votes not be tampered

That's true..

More reason why Obi needs to focus more on the south during this campaign.

Aiel123:

Your last submission is on point.
No ruling party have lost when united.
The clerics and sheikh can still influence northern Nigeria election right?
I pray PDP get it right.
Should they lose in 2023,it will take more than a miracle to stay relevant.

That has been sorted out
But the major players now will be NEF/ACF And Buhari in the north

Kyase:


That has been sorted out
But the major players now will be NEF/ACF And Buhari in the north

Ok
I don't want to probe you on that.
Baba Ahmed Hakeem recently gave support to the PRP guy Abiola. Punch carried the news.
I want to believe you have seen it too.

Aiel123:

Some of them winning are tied to their presidential candidate victory.
Uzodinmma comes to mind.

Uzodimma loss will be more devastating if he fights OBIdient in IMO..
More reason why he plotting propaganda between Ihedioha and OBIdient.
He wants to get sympathetic votes from Obidients by saying what Ihedioha didn't say against Obi.. Ihedioha on his part is countering all the fake news almost immediately..

Aiel123:

Ok
I don't want to probe you on that.
Baba Ahmed Hakeem recently gave support to the PRP guy Abiola. Punch carried the news.
I want to believe you have seen it too.

Some things
I can’t just say it here
Some will sound too real to be true
I’m a nobody but opportune to have contacts on both sides

garfield1:


IMO governor is apc.the pdp in IMO is divided into two factions and uzodinma has started clamping down on them.uzodinma has made apc to win elections in owerri zone.many in IMO pdp have joined lp.apc will beat pdp in IMO

Kyase:


Some things
I can’t just say it here
Some will sound too real to be true
I’m a nobody but opportune to have contacts on both sides

I know...
Some things are better left unsaid.

ImmaculateJOE:

Uzodimma loss will be more devastating if he fights OBIdient in IMO..
More reason why he plotting propaganda between Ihedioha and OBIdient.
He wants to get sympathetic votes from Obidients by saying what Ihedioha didn't say against Obi.. Ihedioha on his part is countering all the fake news almost immediately..

Now I see.
You're really grounded in imo politics
Pray tell,are you an imolite?

Aiel123:

I know...
Some things are better left unsaid.

You get the gist na
Whoever that wins 2023, will have this big sigh of relief

Aiel123:

Oh. The economy is hitting them!
How many states can they cover in that space of late January to mid February?

Yes ooo. Cost of logistics no be here. Forget those who make it a walk in the park. PDP and LP have started and could go 15 States before January. APC is starting on Tuesday and i hear the budget is six billion. All party campaign timetable will be amended as time goes by. The presidential candidates have other engagements in between the campaigns. The fact is, NIGERIANS know where and who to vote. Campaigns ain't gonna change much. Alot of persons think sharing money and endorsements will fix NIGERIA. Sadly most commentors think an individual owns the North and I'll give northerners matching others to vote his preferred candidate. Even the council of Ulamas are struggling to speak in favor of the person they stood surety for in 2015-2019. Northern voters are the most traumatized today. APC is nothing but a mistake that shouldn't have happened. Most political parties don't have organic support base neither do the patrons have much to spend. I fear INEC is battling some challenges that may push the election into second week of March.

Jogs1900:

Is Atiku from Northwest?

right question,
That is what I expected garfield1 to ask the guy