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Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 10:11pm On Sep 27, 2023 |
budaatum: Let me respond to you as follows since I am short on time finding links to send you: Except for the facts I received, I am agnostic of all gods. Sango and Sopana never claim to be the creators. We are talking about the universe's creator here. Our five senses—sight, hearing, touch, taste, and smell—provide us with information about the physical world. However, they are limited to perceiving the observable and measurable aspects of the natural world. |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by budaatum: 11:22pm On Sep 27, 2023 |
gisevak: Your senses are not limited when it comes to doing the work to find out how universe creators are created or how many creators are claimed to have created the universe. And that alone should make you do more research as opposed to claiming you are incapable of doing the research. It's after all not possible that all the creator deities created this one universe. |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by LordReed(m): 8:25am On Sep 28, 2023 |
gisevak: I am not interested in solving the mystery since there isn't a creator mystery in the first place. If you can show cause for why a creator should be considered in the first place then I'm all eyes. |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 9:08am On Sep 28, 2023 |
budaatum: You are not completely right concerning the limitations of our five senses. Our senses can easily give us subjective views of something. Reading through the links you provided. I would want to know those things those gods created, when and how they do so. And if, by the time I finished reading, I couldn't see any proof there, I would be disappointed. Well, there may be a creator or an infinite number of creators. Maybe those links can prove it. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 9:22am On Sep 28, 2023 |
LordReed:Since you know there is no universe-creator mystery, why don't you bring forward facts or proof to unleash the mystery? Did you read my stand on whether creators exist or not? How can you ask questions that I have already answered? You seem to not pay attention to the details being discussed. It's normal for humans to assume things are created or not, but your stand is highly illogical. |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by LordReed(m): 9:23am On Sep 28, 2023 |
gisevak: I should bring evidence for a mystery that doesn't exist? Can you even hear youself? LoLz. |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 9:27am On Sep 28, 2023 |
LordReed: How did you arrive at this conclusion? |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by LordReed(m): 9:40am On Sep 28, 2023 |
gisevak: What conclusion? |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 9:44am On Sep 28, 2023 |
LordReed:The statement I quoted, or simply put, "There is no mystery of a creator or creators": how did you come to this conclusion? |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by LordReed(m): 12:21pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
gisevak: Because the idea of a creator or creators has no basis in reality. If you think it does, provide such a basis. |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 12:54pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
LordReed:See how you are running away to provide an answer to how you came to your conclusion. That's what I have predicted here about self-acclaimed atheists without proof of their stands. They have no proof of their stand and still come to a conclusion about something they have no proof of. Is that logical? |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by LordReed(m): 1:03pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
gisevak: Which running away? What is there to run away from? I'll tell you what is illogical, expecting me to provide proof for an idea that has no merit. Meanwhile you who thinks the idea has merit can provide no basis for why such an idea has merit. You are always pointing the fingers that implicate you. 2 Likes |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 1:31pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
LordReed: Simple question: how did you arrive at the conclusion that the mystery of a creator does not exist? Did you just make a guess without a fact? Is this how atheists reason—they just make up any idea for us to accept without proof or facts? So, if you're accused of a crime, would the police legally throw you into prison without being convicted? |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by budaatum: 3:16pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
gisevak:Indeed if you a passive receiver of what your senses perceive perhaps, or a slave to your senses like a certain Adam who's subjective senses informed him that seeking to know would kill him. Those who first learn to use their senses like Eve did, would know who the master is and who is the slave between one's senses and oneself and would therefore not easily be led. Temptation of Christ, for Bible readers. gisevak:Instead of asking and seeking and knocking with your own heart and soul and mind so you can prove for yourself and know, you expect to be given so you can receive? Do tell if that does not sound like some who are given a book and therefore believe. Texts are not to be read as, "by the time I finished reading I should know", and links don't prove things. What you read is for you to consider, then research and learn more and eventually know. The below is a reminder to self, and may be ignored. budaatum: |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by LordReed(m): 3:32pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
gisevak: There is no mystery because there is no valid ground to consider the idea of a creator or creators. The idea is simply nonsense. How do you now want me to manufacture evidence for the nonsense? With no evidence of a crime so where is such an accusation going to come from? You'll just dream it up? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 4:14pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
LordReed: You made the claim that there is no mystery behind a creator. OK, "the origin of consciousness in the universe and human existence", is also not a mystery to you. I wonder at your level of ignorance. |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by LordReed(m): 4:32pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
gisevak: Are you stupìd? What has the origin of consciousness got to do with a creator? |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 4:40pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
LordReed: This shows how your mother trained you. I don't need to trade words with you. This thread is about the existence of humans and consciousness in the first place. If you can't talk about it, you can shamefully leave my thread for more logical people. |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by LordReed(m): 4:51pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
gisevak: Look at this this one crying crocodile tears. When you were calling me ignorant e dey sweet you bah, now that you are on the receiving end you want to cry. Bwahahahahaha! I asked you a simple question that you not been able to answer only to be dodging and trying to turn it on to me. If you have any shame yourself you'll stop posting and go think of what to do with your life instead of navel gazing and thinking of fairytale creators. |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 5:12pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
LordReed:Smh! What is that question you are asking? |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by gisevak: 5:14pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
LordReed:Every human knows that there are a lot of mysteries in the world, of which the universe creator is one, and human existence is part of them. And many more mysteries. But you said there was no mystery behind the creator of the universe. Please don't mention me, nor do you quote me with your bunch of ignorant and illogical guesses again. |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by budaatum: 5:22pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
gisevak: Because you have not done the research to ask and knock and seek so you may may know, it's likely hard for you to consider that others might have done the research so they may know. And you expect the research they may have done to be given to you instead of you doing your own research. Believers accept made up ideas without proof or facts. Good thing is you are agnostic, which means you will ask and knock and seek until you do know, or you'd be lazy and just believe. |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by LordReed(m): 6:18pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
gisevak: Go back and read my posts not going to repeat something I have repeated more than thrice already. |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by LordReed(m): 6:19pm On Sep 28, 2023 |
gisevak: LoLz! Says the dumbass looking for what is not lost. 1 Like |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by KnownUnknown: 1:37am On Sep 29, 2023 |
gisevak: Mystery!!! You know who to call!! 1 Like
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Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:42am On Sep 29, 2023 |
jaephoenix: If you see an ancient house You need to have the names of the builders and how they built it to believe it was built by someone right? Irrational atheist in an irrational planet |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:43am On Sep 29, 2023 |
danielistics: No |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:44am On Sep 29, 2023 |
gisevak: Jaephoenix actually believed that nothing can emerge from nothing So leave him to his folly |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:45am On Sep 29, 2023 |
Wilgrea7: Whether Creator or creatorsssssss The universe give evidence that it was the work of a hand |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:48am On Sep 29, 2023 |
LordReed: The laws and order and organization came by itself right? The earth rotation, revolution, it's perfect position and tilt and distance in the galactic system could have been by chance? What about the ecological balance, cycles and the designs of the human body? Intelligent design or chance? Give me just one evidence that the DNA could emerge by chance and I'll be an atheist forever... Just one evidence. Even if na fake evidence |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:49am On Sep 29, 2023 |
mysticwarrior: Which alien have you seen? |
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:50am On Sep 29, 2023 |
KnownUnknown: What about the law of gravity? The same law also guide the movement of the planetary bodies |
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