Lexusgs430:
Unfortunately, it was a Nigerian boy that was killed by the sword attacker..........

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/may/01/hainault-sword-attack-police-officer-almost-lost-hand-met-police-chief?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Very sad....poor boy just on his way to school.

There is still a lot of poverty in China. A lot of them are like slaves. Working 247. Child labour is huge. My organisation used to have a factory there and it is unbelievable what they are subject to.

Treadway:
again I understand that you're entitled to your opinion, but when something works, I am very very amenable to change. China is a great example. Gerrard59 is in Japan, most don't look to places like China and Japan, but still doesn't change the fact that autocratic [b]China that was struggling with poverty less than 50 years ago, has an economy bigger than competing with the USA today ([b]*modified/corrected* cos it is not in absolute terms but only when you consider Purchasing Power Parity[/[/b]b]), and is number one on virtually everything you can think of (quality of education, health systems, infrastructure etc.) Google it if in any doubt. We just tend to not really attach much attention or significance to non-english speaking countries. Russia is still far better than Germany economically toady even despite two years of significant sanctions. The top rankings for education and healthcare, English speaking countries no even dey top 20.

Life doesn't start and end with English speaking countries o...or democracy. Autocracy certainly works for some, and democracy isn't absolutely the best. I actually believe Nigeria will be in better state with an autocratic leader who has the nation at heart, even if he only has it at heart up to just 25% and is selfish with the remaining 75%

100% 👍

Zahra29:



There's a reason why many more thousands of Chinese nationals are fleeing to seek asylum in the US. In contrast, how many UK or US citizens are seeking refuge elsewhere?

To each their own; every black man can't migrate to the west so it's a good move to try out lesser trodden paths.

And I agree that certain countries and people need and deserve an autocratic leader. I'm just grateful that's not the UK/west.

Zahra29:



There's a reason why many more thousands of Chinese nationals are fleeing to seek asylum in the US. In contrast, how many UK or US citizens are seeking refuge elsewhere?
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Lol. This is why I love statistics. You can sermonize all you like but figures will always tell the unvarnished truth.

Anyway, I’m sure they’ll soon come with more analysis to show why all the Chinese emigrating are mistaken.

Goodenoch:


Lol. This is why I love statistics. You can sermonize all you like but figures will always tell the unvarnished truth.

Anyway, I’m sure they’ll soon come with more analysis to show why all the Chinese emigrating are mistaken.

stats and facts indeed don't lie. If all the Chinese in the diaspora are put at 10million that is a whole lot less than 1% of their population of over 1.4b.

So the stats show they are not 'trooping out' as you've depicted, cos hey less than 1%....

In these kain discourse esp with India and China, we can't just be looking at the numbers without taking into account the sheer population of both countries. They have over 30% of the world's population so.....

See estimate of Nigerians in diaspora below.

Hope we can all see that the TRUTH is that Chinese are not trooping out as depicted.

Treadway:
check am bro, Russia invaded Georgia and Ukraine correct...but both countries and Russia historically were all brothers that once shared landmass. Which landmass US share with Afghanistan and Iraq? Lati odindin US of A dem cross all the way to the middle East to find trouble. You sef check am na

As to your question, if we can find an autocratic leader that is that passionate about Nigeria, passionate about making it formidable abeg I no mind. I will take a wild guess and say you emigrated too, like most on here, evidence that the democratic dispensations since Obasanjo has only left us with the worst of us leading us almost always, while Nigeria constantly sinks. They win, Nigeria lose. I would def wholly accept a diff approach, even an autocrat. Thank you

Orisa bi o gbemi, at least fi mi le bi o se bami👌

Again, like I told Zahra, aside the language speaking barrier, I could live in Russia. I have two pals there and they are balling. Enjoying same world-class infrastructure, are married to beautiful women, and have beautiful kids. Russians largely love Putin. I wouldn't live in the US if I could live in Norway. For those who still have it in them to learn a new language, countries yapa, Russia included, where you can move to and live super fine. All this Canny, USA, Aussie and UK most naturally throng to, na cos the language is English. No be say other places no dey viable.

He poisoned him and wanted him dead immediately but Alexi Nalvanly was lucky to survive the poisoning thanks to Germany that took him and cured him. As a patriotic Russian, he still felt he has to go back to Russia despite being warned not to.

I don't really blame Nalvanly for wanting to go back home. Any reasonable person would expect that since Saint Putin has tried and failed to eliminate him before, he will just leave him alone, we were all wrong, in fact, we were dead wrong. As soon as Nalvanly stepped into Russian airport, saint oga at the top arrested and locked him up, bid his time and this time around eliminated him and ensured that no one can save him this time. Sad end of a young man whose only crime is having the audacity to oppose the "god" of Russia

If the Russian state can be this cruel to its own people who disagree with him, If and when Russia becomes the number 1 super power, do you think they will spear you and your people when you disagree with them?

Your evil desire of wishing this kind of cruelty in Nigeria will never work for you. God forbid!
With time, Nigeria will thrive and succeed democratically, economically as a free country with citizens enjoying their fundamental right of freedom of expression. There are countless number of countries from east to west to even Africa who are freedom loving, democratic and also prospering too. We don't have to become a repressive authoritarian society where one man can use the power of the state to murder his people anytime he wants without accountability.

I hope people around you know the kind of person you are else they are playing with fire cos with this your mindset, you can be deadly.

Kenn55:


He poisoned him and wanted him dead immediately but Alexi Nalvanly was lucky to survive the poisoning thanks to Germany that took him and cured him. As a patriotic Russian, he still felt he has to go back to Russia despite being warned not to.

I don't really blame Nalvanly for wanting to go back home. Any reasonable person would expect that since Saint Putin has tried and failed to eliminate him before, he will just leave him alone, we were all wrong, in fact, we were dead wrong. As soon as Nalvanly stepped into Russian airport, saint oga at the top arrested and locked him up, bid his time and this time around eliminated him and ensured that no one can save him this time. Sad end of a young man whose only crime is having the audacity to oppose the "god" of Russia

If the Russian state can be this cruel to its own people who disagree with him, If and when Russia becomes the number 1 super power, do you think they will spear you and your people when you disagree with them?

Your evil desire of wishing this kind of cruelty in Nigeria will never work for you. God forbid!
With time, Nigeria will thrive and succeed democratically, economically as a free country with citizens enjoying their fundamental right of freedom of expression. There are countless number of countries from east to west to even Africa who are freedom loving, democratic and also prospering too. We don't have to become a repressive authoritarian society where one man can use the power of the state to murder his people anytime he wants without accountability.

I hope people around you know the kind of person you are else they are playing with fire cos with this your mindset, you can be deadly.

and yet you're ranting from the UK. How has your 'good desired' democracy helped your life or the family you left behind in Nigeria, since you don 'escape' now? How has the democrazy removed Nigeria from the deplorable state it is in 64 years after??

One-way thinker🤣....

Authoritatian is bad, but we had kings for centuries and earth didn't collapse.


Shior.

Deadly ko, Deadpool ni

Treadway:
stats indeed don't lie. If all the Chinese in the diaspora are put at 10million that is a whole lot less than 1% of their population of over 1.4b.

So the stats show they are not 'trooping out' as you put it, cos hey less than 1%....

In these kain discourse esp with India and China, we can't just be looking at the numbers without taking into account the sheer population of both countries. They have over 30% of the world's population so.....

See estimate of Nigerians in diaspora below.

Hope we can all see that the TRUTH is that Chinese are not trooping out as depicted.

This is pointless. The absolute number of Chinese emigrants is useless.

What matters is what proportion they are relative to the proportion of US citizens emigrating to China.

There were less than 1,000 American students in China in 2023, and this is up from 350 the previous year.

Conversely, there were about 300,000 - THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND Chinese enrollees in American schools, with 86,000 last year.

https://www.voanews.com/amp/bilateral-tensions-cause-the-number-of-american-students-in-china-to-plummet-/7404085.html
https://learningenglish.voanews.com/amp/for-many-reasons-fewer-chinese-students-attend-us-schools/7537255.html

That means a Chinese young person is hundreds of times more likely to choose to go study in the US than an American young person is likely to travel the other way.

Interpret that as you will. The figures speak for themselves though.

Goodenoch:


This is pointless. The absolute number of Chinese emigrants is useless.

What matters is what proportion they are relative to the proportion of US citizens emigrating to China.

There were less than 1,000 American students in China in 2023, and this is up from 350 the previous year.

Conversely, there were about 300,000 - THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND Chinese enrollees in American schools, with 86,000 last year.

https://www.voanews.com/amp/bilateral-tensions-cause-the-number-of-american-students-in-china-to-plummet-/7404085.html
https://learningenglish.voanews.com/amp/for-many-reasons-fewer-chinese-students-attend-us-schools/7537255.html

That means a Chinese young person is hundreds of times more likely to choose to go study in the US than an American young person is likely to.

Interpret that as you will. The figures speak for themselves though.

how many Americans are even in American schools.? I have the stats but indulge me.

Meanwhile, this your post reminds me of an interesting thread nearline tagged me in recently...not news to me, but immediately I saw your response I remembered the thread
https://www.nairaland.com/8059756/illusion-western-educational-superiority#129403640

Treadway:
and yet you're ranting from the UK.

If anyone has been RANTING on this thread, it’s you.
Here you are in the UK, in the WEST pontificating how lovely & glorious Russia is, and how amazing China is.

Here you are, in the West saying all sorts of tbings about how horrible the west is. And how disgusting USA, UK,Germany etc are… Yea! You are entitled to your opinion.

Why don’t you leave the West and its values, and na gate towards the Russia or China that is your eldorado?

You have ranted a lot bro. We have ALL hear you. You don win. Now chill .

https://amp.theguardian.com/education/2024/may/01/england-scraps-50-rule-on-faith-school-admissions


Good news for faith schools

ReesheesuKnack:


If anyone has been RANTING on this thread, it’s you.
Here you are in the UK, in the WEST pontificating how lovely & glorious Russia is, and how amazing China is.

Here you are, in the West saying all sorts of tbings about how horrible the west is. And how disgusting USA, UK,Germany etc are… Yea! You are entitled to your opinion.

Why don’t you leave the West and its values, and na gate towards the Russia or China that is your eldorado?

You have ranted a lot bro. We have ALL hear you. You don win. Now chill .

I'm in Nigeria, most on here know that.. what else?

I never called China my eldorado, you made that conclusion up all by yourself.

Treadway:
again I understand that you're entitled to your opinion, but when something works, I am very very amenable to change. China is a great example. Gerrard59 is in Japan, most don't look to places like China and Japan, but still doesn't change the fact that autocratic China that was struggling with poverty less than 50 years ago, has an economy bigger than competing with the USA today (*modified/corrected* cos it is not in absolute terms but only when you consider Purchasing Power Parity), and is number one on virtually everything you can think of (quality of education, health systems, infrastructure etc.) Google it if in any doubt. We just tend to not really attach much attention or significance to non-english speaking countries. Russia is still far better than Germany economically toady even despite two years of significant sanctions. The top rankings for education and healthcare, English speaking countries no even dey top 20.

Life doesn't start and end with English speaking countries o...or democracy. Autocracy certainly works for some, and democracy isn't absolutely the best. I actually believe Nigeria will be in better state with an autocratic leader who has the nation at heart, even if he only has it at heart up to just 25% and is selfish with the remaining 75%

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3260307/made-china-2025-china-meets-most-targets-manufacturing-plan-proving-us-tariffs-and-sanctions

When people, especially black people, mock China with poverty statements, I find it very appalling and ridiculous considering after Whites and Chinese cousins - Koreans and Japanese - Chinese are the next in terms of developmental status. Arabs exceeds us. So, why try to belittle China?

Yes, China has poor people, just like every country. However, in the East and southeast parts of China, where much of the wealth is, the development of China is at the same level as most Western countries. The major cities of China are comparable to those in the West. There is wealth in China and much of it comes from sheer economic activities rather than the stock market. The recent ranking of billionaires shows it - Chinese cities dominate disproportionately. China, a country filled with destitutes over forty years ago, now has more billionaires than any other country and commands a lot of economic dominance. China trades with more countries than the US.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/charted-which-country-has-the-most-billionaires-in-2024/#:~:text=China%20has%20814%20billionaires%2C%20the,while%20the%20U.S.%20gained%20109.

When I read the above article in the SCMP, if no be say I dey inside train, I would have shedded a tear because I was extremely impressed by the foresight of their elites and determination to succeed.

E dey irritate me anytime I see black people lampoon China. I keep reading dictatorship and mumbo-jumbo, history has it that EVERY developed and prosperous country you see today underwent a form of dictatorship before it became a prosperous democracy. There were bullying, mass killings and high-handedness. Economic development came before democracy, not after. In cases where there were semblance of democracy, there was a dominant ethnic or racial group or political party who controlled everything. But the majority of countries at the forefront of economic development had a form of dictatorship before they liberalised their political systems.

That said, Mr Treadway, Nigeria in its present state can't develop even with a benevolent dictator (Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore was described as such by Western media). The country's demographics doesn't permit that to happen. For dictatorship to work effectively for the benefit of the populace, there needs to be an ethnic or religious or racial dominance by a group that is egalitarian, enterprising, creative and pragmatic.

Lastly, black people, regardless of where they come from, should stop criticising China. Leave that to people who have built functioning societies.

Gerrard59:


https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3260307/made-china-2025-china-meets-most-targets-manufacturing-plan-proving-us-tariffs-and-sanctions

When people, especially black people, mock China with poverty statements, I find it very appalling and ridiculous considering after Whites and Chinese cousins - Koreans and Japanese - Chinese are the next in terms of developmental status. Arabs exceeds us. So, why try to belittle China?

Yes, China has poor people, just like every country. However, in the East and southeast parts of China, where much of the wealth is, the development of China is at the same level as most Western countries. The major cities of China are comparable to those in the West. There is wealth in China and much of it comes from sheer economic activities rather than the stock market. The recent ranking of billionaires shows it - Chinese cities dominate disproportionately. China, a country filled with destitutes over forty years ago, now has more billionaires than any other country and commands a lot of economic dominance. China trades with more countries than the US.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/charted-which-country-has-the-most-billionaires-in-2024/#:~:text=China%20has%20814%20billionaires%2C%20the,while%20the%20U.S.%20gained%20109.

When I read the above article in the SCMP, if no be say I dey inside train, I would have shedded a tear because I was extremely impressed by the foresight of their elites and determination to succeed.

E dey irritate me anytime I see black people lampoon China. I keep reading dictatorship and mumbo-jumbo, history has it that EVERY developed and prosperous country you see today underwent a form of dictatorship before it became a prosperous democracy. There were bullying, mass killings and high-handedness. Economic development came before democracy, not after. In cases where there were semblance of democracy, there was a dominant ethnic or racial group or political party who controlled everything. But the majority of countries at the forefront of economic development had a form of dictatorship before they liberalised their political systems.

That said, Mr Treadway, Nigeria in its present state can't develop even with a benevolent dictator (Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore was described as such by Western media). The country's demographics doesn't permit that to happen. For dictatorship to work effectively for the benefit of the populace, there needs to be an ethnic or religious or racial dominance by a group that is egalitarian, enterprising, creative and pragmatic.

Lastly, black people, regardless of where they come from, should stop criticising China. Leave that to people who have built functioning societies.

you no dey ever disappoint my guy.

True, the unity debacle may also pose some problems, but with an authoritarian, that is not enough of a deterrent. For naija matter, the people simply cannot unite to elect the best of them or even do what is best for themselves. They can't unite guy! You know this and I know this!

If we do have an authoritarian who has the passion for the country at heart, I truly believe that may work better for us. Just take the reins and do whatever needs to be done, everyone will fall in line. The key thing is that person being passionate about the country.

Anyway, make I bone the matter.

Treadway:
again I understand that you're entitled to your opinion, but when something works, I am very very amenable to change. China is a great example. Gerrard59 is in Japan, most don't look to places like China and Japan, but still doesn't change the fact that autocratic China that was struggling with poverty less than 50 years ago, has an economy bigger than competing with the USA today (*modified/corrected* cos it is not in absolute terms but only when you consider Purchasing Power Parity), and is number one on virtually everything you can think of (quality of education, health systems, infrastructure etc.) Google it if in any doubt. We just tend to not really attach much attention or significance to non-english speaking countries. Russia is still far better than Germany economically toady even despite two years of significant sanctions. The top rankings for education and healthcare, English speaking countries no even dey top 20.

Life doesn't start and end with English speaking countries o...or democracy. Autocracy certainly works for some, and democracy isn't absolutely the best. I actually believe Nigeria will be in better state with an autocratic leader who has the nation at heart, even if he only has it at heart up to just 25% and is selfish with the remaining 75%

West propaganda has blind folded most of my people that they will rather eat a white man yansh than to help make Africa great and better.

dupyshoo:
There is still a lot of poverty in China. A lot of them are like slaves. Working 247. Child labour is huge. My organisation used to have a factory there and it is unbelievable what they are subject to.

Same here in the uk and USA.

lavida001:


West propaganda has blind folded most of my people that they will rather eat a white man yansh than to help make Africa great and better.

It’s very disingenuous to keep yapping on about ‘Western propaganda’ as though propaganda is an exclusive reserve of the West.
Are you saying your beloved Russia & China do not have well oiled propaganda machinery?

lavida001:


Same here in the uk and USA.

You’ve seen forced labour or child labour in a factory or other workplace in the UK?

As I was saying about playing the ostrich -

https://archive.ph/jZzms - Crackdown on graduate visa ‘being used as back door for asylum’

Restrictions incoming for the graduate visa route, apparently.

I have been in the UK for years and I am sure such is not in the UK. Trade union can never alow that in the UK. A huge percentage are subject to serious hardship to manufacture things at a very cheap rate. They work like machine.

lavida001:


Same here in the uk and USA.

I want to say thank you to everyone involved in the politics and war chat.

For the first time in my nairaland experience, I just went thru 4 - 6 pages in less than an hour. Simply because it had my least favorite convo.

Thank you guys.

Now to something different, what happens to 0% purchase and balance card after the free months period is over?

Is it to dump it or the company will offer something else?

Aside from British airways, any other airline de wey no de use transit visa? Our lovely airpeace no get seat.

Need to book urgent flight from Glasgow to Naija and air France and klm dem require transit visa. I no get time to waste.

Or is there any way to get transit visa in 48hrs?

Abeg I need help

Kenn55:


It is you that should think without bias. If you are rational, you should have known that Putin and Russia are no saints, they are as bad as the US and west. You should have known that Russia is also seeking to dominate like the US. You should have known that Russia is also looking out for it's own selfish interest like all world powers do.

Every bad thing you have against the west is also applicable to Russia. US and its allies invade countries for their selfish interests, Russia does the same. Since 2000, US has invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, Russia has invaded Georgia and Ukraine. Russia has been sponsoring breakaway rebels in Georgia, Maldova, Ukraine etc to declare kangaroo independence yet Putin is your Angel and you wipe away his sins.

All world powers are bad players. But at least in the west, no leader is "god", they can be challenged and removed by the people unlike your Angelic country Russia. In the west, Opposition is strong putting check on government to behave themselves. In the west, Oposition has power, media has power, legislators have power, courts have power, civil society have power the people have power, it is never a one man show.

Putin came to power in 1999 when Bill Clinton and Obasanjo was in power. He has succeeded in making Russia a one man country where he is "god". He has changed Russia constitution 3 times since 1999, the last one being last year to give himself another 12 years in power. Russians can't talk, if you talk, you chop poison, fall from high rise, rot in jail if you are lucky or your plane gets shot down.

Do you know how many Putin's opposition and critics Saint Putin and his gang have eliminated since 1999 by poisoning and throwing them down from high rise buildings?

Will you be happy if Nigeria adopt the Russian model? Tell yourself the truth for once.
As we speak, Russians can't call Ukraine war a war publicly, they passed a law criminalizing calling it war. Imagine a government making it a crime to judge for yourself how you see things. Russians no longer have independence of thought, they have to be told what and how to think by force because one man cannot afford to be criticized. I just hope this Saint Putin Russian model nonsense is not what you guys are wishing for Nigeria to become. God forbid!
By the way, I'll take Tinubu and Nigeria over Putin and Russia, you can put your money where your mouth is by relocating to Moscow and not living in the freedom loving west and still talking nonsense. Mtshewwwww

Loads of gibberish!

Chreze:
Aside from British airways, any other airline de wey no de use transit visa? Our lovely airpeace no get seat.

Need to book urgent flight from Glasgow to Naija and air France and klm dem require transit visa. I no get time to waste.

Or is there any way to get transit visa in 48hrs?

Abeg I need help

Turkish airlines?
Ethiopian airlines?

ReesheesuKnack:


Turkish airlines?
Ethiopian airlines?

Omo no flight from now to Tuesday on both airlines

Lexusgs430:
Unfortunately, it was a Nigerian boy that was killed by the sword attacker..........

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/may/01/hainault-sword-attack-police-officer-almost-lost-hand-met-police-chief?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

So sad!

Goodenoch:


They've gained some land mass but lost close to 500,000 citizens, mostly young men and tens of thousands of military vehicles and arms and the country is now receiving military aid from Iran. Their assets abroad are about to be seized to fund the continuous money being delivered to Ukraine. All while NATO has gained two more countries and doubled their land border with Russia all without a NATO soldier firing a single bullet. All they've 'lost' (or 'invested' depending on how you look at it) is money. Russia is incapable of invading anyone else now and poses very little threat to NATO, and will likely be so incapable for a long time due to their demographics and military being shot. Putin will keep talking about nuclear weapons but the whole world knows he'll never use them and NATO will also keep pushing the envelope by arming Ukraine with increasingly sophisticated arms but never cross the line that'll make him deploy them as well. They simply do not need to when they're cutting the country down to size very effectively with the proxy approach.

OK oo... Hopefully, Ukraine wins the war

The summary for the above is a proxy war between Russia and the whole of NATO delivered via Ukraine. Replace Russia with China or any other superpower and the impact would be the same.

Zahra29 'cleverly' noted that Russia is capable of invading any country, which totally counters all what you have said here.

As per morality of the war or who wins the WAR or what Russia has gained/lost, I don't really give a BLEEPING HOOT! Just tried to clarify that the US have always been the aggressor not just towards Russia, but anywhere on earth!

**Disclaimer**
I never said I am in support of Russia or the US/West/NATO. Just putting the stats out here for all to see. They are already quoting me as a Pro-Russian and Anti-US.

@Lesusgs430. Are there any recommendations for VPNs or methods to bypass geo-restrictions on a smart TV?

ReesheesuKnack:


Turkish airlines?
Ethiopian airlines?

There are flights from London, so I will do London to Lagos. Just get local flight to London.

Thanks

D1uncle:
@Lesusgs430. Are there any recommendations for VPNs or methods to bypass geo-restrictions on a smart TV?

I use vpnify.......

ReesheesuKnack:


If anyone has been RANTING on this thread, it’s you.
Here you are in the UK, in the WEST pontificating how lovely & glorious Russia is, and how amazing China is.

Here you are, in the West saying all sorts of tbings about how horrible the west is. And how disgusting USA, UK,Germany etc are… Yea! You are entitled to your opinion.

Why don’t you leave the West and its values, and na gate towards the Russia or China that is your eldorado?

You have ranted a lot bro. We have ALL hear you. You don win. Now chill .

You must be a joker to think that because one is in the West, one cannot criticize objectively and quote data and facts that are littered all over the internet on how the US and her allies have assassinated heads of states, invaded and bombed nations causing significant human right violations, genocide etc. I do that and I hate the US and NATO.

That I'm in the West doesn't remove the fact that the US have always and would always remain the bigger aggressor over Russia, China et al.

Because I'm in the West, I should be blinded to fact and common sense.

By the way, who the hell made you guys the landlords and landladies of the West for heaven's sake?!!!