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Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by Nobody: 12:10am On Jan 05, 2014
Ishilove:
He can't hide it from me because the Holy Spirit is revealer of secrets.

If I can hide it from my parents and the holy spirit didn't reveal it to them, I don't think its difficult to hide it from you.

And you didn't answer the other part of the question. Like he was a christian as at when you got married and for some strange reasons, turned an atheist. What will you do?

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Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by nep2ra(m): 12:11am On Jan 05, 2014
As always, the Christian Crusaders with their hoighty-toighty ignorant and arrogant attitude fail to make sense. All I can see are inane ramblings and rantings of myopic, half-baked religious followers whose arguments fall like a pack of cards when faced with a superior intellect. You mean to tell me of all the billions of galaxies and planets in the Universe, your Jewish God by-passed other races and picked out a Jew to save all of mankind? You see the reason why there can never be world peace?

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Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by Mintayo(m): 12:11am On Jan 05, 2014
Damn,Op you are lucky o,you have the best mum in the world...No sane parents will want to see their wards perishing like that.
I am a christain and if Jesus tarries my children are gonna be christains from their mother's womb(like someone said),bcus right from the womb,i will be feeding them with prayers and d Word of God=thats what most parents dnt knw...
As a parents,if any of my children forsake Jesus(God forbid) and embrace one 'spagetti mosquito',then i have failed,as a parent.
What your mother needs to do now is to leave you and PRAY HARD...we are in a spiritual welfare.
Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by Nobody: 12:23am On Jan 05, 2014
nep2ra: As always, the Christian Crusaders with their hoighty-toighty ignorant and arrogant attitude fail to make sense. All I can see are inane ramblings and rantings of myopic, half-baked religious followers whose arguments fall like a pack of cards when faced with a superior intellect. You mean to tell me of all the billions of galaxies and planets in the Universe, your Jewish God by-passed other races and picked out a Jew to save all of mankind? You see the reason why there can never be world peace?
Not again. Think outside your box for once. Thinking patterns like this cannot help you see what we see.
Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by Okijajuju1(m): 12:23am On Jan 05, 2014
holamiday: Not again. Think outside your box for once. Thinking patterns like this cannot help you see what we see.



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Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by Nobody: 12:26am On Jan 05, 2014
Okija_juju:



That's Daniel Radcliffe yelling 'you liar, you liar!!'
Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by UyiIredia(m): 12:29am On Jan 05, 2014
showby: What do you expect from an atheist, a mumu.

I swear to Orunmila, I laff when I see did one grin
Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by qhiwegh(m): 12:34am On Jan 05, 2014
GeneralShepherd: Since I officially dumped the idea of a god, I haven't seen my parents. I went home this christmas,it was a wonderful holiday for me,little did I know my mum was hurting deep down inside!

She called me today being the 1st of January 2014 and started telling me how she asked Yahweh to give her a son after she had four girls(who are all married) which He did according to her. She told me how she has barely slept most nights in the pasy year because of my atheism. Also said it might lead her to her early grave if I continue living without god.

My dilemma is I can't pretend about god and the bible,yet I don't want my mum to die or have sleepless nights! When people read the bible the smile on face shows I don't believe any of it, when I try to pray I feel like I'm mad talking to myself or like a kid talking to Barney and friends!

How do I undo what has been done! How do I unknow what I know about god and religion? How do I ignore the inconsistencies?

I love my mum so much and will gladly become a sheeple for her to be happy

You seriously need Jesus. You think your flawed human reasoning is all there is in life, well let me bring you to reality, it isn't. Jesus is the alpha and the omega of existence. The sooner you realise this the sooner you will find peace and meaning in life.
Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by UyiIredia(m): 12:34am On Jan 05, 2014
chronique: To everyone who says there is no God: all I need y'all to do is to prove to me how man was created/came into existence. If you can tell me how man's flesh was made,how your respiratory system was designed,how your brain was programmed,how the concept of blood being the soul of a man,was achieved,etc;I'd believe there's no God. It's only a fool that will claim He knows for sure,and can give you adequate info on what happened in a place He has never been to. It's only a fool that will come out and contradict historical events that occurred before his/her birth. It's only a fool that will wake up and say a way of life that has been observed by thousands of generations in the past,is false,without giving concrete evidences to prove it. You cannot explain how you came into existence,yet you claim there's no creator or God? Smh. The difference between the fool and the wise is that,the wise will believe there's God,only to find out at the end that there is no God. But the foolish will assume there's no GOD,only to discover at the end,that there is a God that created heaven and earth.

I won't claim knowledge to these details but evolutionary biologists in many fields from botany to zoology are working such out. What you do is what religions usually do over time ? See a gap and ascribe it to God. Such thinking gets you nowhere which is developed nations with many atheist work, and a religious Nigeria thrives on superstition and corruption.

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Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by lolaxavier(m): 12:35am On Jan 05, 2014
Mintayo: Damn,Op you are lucky o,you have the best mum in the world...No sane parents will want to see their wards perishing like that.
I am a christain and if Jesus tarries my children are gonna be christains from their mother's womb(like someone said),bcus right from the womb,i will be feeding them with prayers and d Word of God=thats what most parents dnt knw...
As a parents,if any of my children forsake Jesus(God forbid) and embrace one 'spagetti mosquito',then i have failed,as a parent.
What your mother needs to do now is to leave you and PRAY HARD...we are in a spiritual welfare.

Can you imagine how shallow and empty your comment is?

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Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by kjhova(m): 12:38am On Jan 05, 2014
bigblxd: @ OP, with all sense of humility,threads like this gives me nightmares! Why on earth will there not be a God! Pls God is using your mom to give you one more chance; pls & pls open up your heart. Faith is now; salvation is today; Jesus loves you!
Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by obivick: 12:38am On Jan 05, 2014
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Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by UyiIredia(m): 12:39am On Jan 05, 2014
qhiwegh:

You seriously need Jesus. You think your flawed human reasoning is all there is in life, well let me bring you to reality, it isn't. Jesus is the alpha and the omega of existence. The sooner you realise this the sooner you will find peace and meaning in life.

Don't you think men have found peace and meaning in life millennia before Jesus came ? And what makes u sure or religion is true above others ?

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Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by kjhova(m): 12:40am On Jan 05, 2014
bigblxd: @ OP, with all sense of humility,threads like this gives me nightmares! Why on earth will there not be a God! Pls God is using your mom to give you one more chance; pls & pls open up your heart. Faith is now; salvation is today; Jesus loves you!


Well, I could give a few reasons why there may not be a god or any gods for that matter. As you are a Christian, let's kick it in with Jehovah, if you don't mind:
1) In the stories, he destroyed Ba'al & all her worshippers & burned down Soddom & Gomorah for their sins...in real life, he has done absolutely nothing to fight Allah or Buddha nor has he destroyed Las Vegas or any sin city!!
2) In the stories, he created the rainbow as a pact with man not to destroy the world with water again...in rea life, rainbows have been seen on planet Mars! Does Yahweh have a pact going on with some aliens there too?
3) In the stories, he tests his best friend Abraham's faith by demanding him to sacrifice his only son...With common sense, if Yahweh is omnipotent as supposed, why would he need such test to confirm his friend's faith?
4) In the stories, he demands the Hebrews to invade Canaan & to perpetuate genocide on the indeginous populations...By today's standards, Moses, Aaron & Joshua, the Hebrew leaders, would have been tried at the ICJ & hanged as criminals!

Ultimately, to answer why there may not be a god? The best answer may be to ask you, why should there be a god?

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Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by nep2ra(m): 12:43am On Jan 05, 2014
holamiday: Not again. Think outside your box for once. Thinking patterns like this cannot help you see what we see.

You are the one who, as a matter of urgency, needs to don a thinking cap for once and put your grey cells to good use.

Of all the religions in the world, WHY oh! WHY should your religion be the one TRUE way to eternal life?

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Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by Okijajuju1(m): 12:44am On Jan 05, 2014
kj_hova:

Well, I could give a few reasons why there may not be a god or any gods for that matter. As you are a Christian, let's kick it in with Jehovah, if you don't mind:
1) In the stories, he destroyed Ba'al & all her worshippers & burned down Soddom & Gomorah for their sins...in real life, he has done absolutely nothing to fight Allah or Buddha nor has he destroyed Las Vegas or any sin city!!
2) In the stories, he created the rainbow as a pact with man not to destroy the world with water again...in rea life, rainbows have been seen on planet Mars! Does Yahweh have a pact going on with some aliens there too?
3) In the stories, he tests his best friend Abraham's faith by demanding him to sacrifice his only son...With common sense, if Yahweh is omnipotent as supposed, why would he need such test to confirm his friend's faith?
4) In the stories, he demands the Hebrews to invade Canaan & to perpetuate genocide on the indeginous populations...By today's standards, Moses, Aaron & Joshua, the Hebrew leaders, would have been tried at the ICJ & hanged as criminals!

Ultimately, to answer why there may not be a god? The best answer may be to ask you, why should there be a god?


Well...


People need God to explain the the that are beyond their comprehension and that they are too lazy to investigate..

I may not be the type to say their is no God, but all I can say is that if he indeed exists, I have not seen a darn thing he has done..

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Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by Okijajuju1(m): 12:45am On Jan 05, 2014
nep2ra:

You are the one who, as a matter of urgency, needs to don a thinking cap for once and put your grey cells to good use.

Of all the religions in the world, WHY oh! WHY should your religion be the one TRUE way to eternal life?


Because he has been raised and programmed to believe so.. grin

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Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by UyiIredia(m): 12:46am On Jan 05, 2014
showby: What do you expect from an atheist, a mumu.

Tai Solar in was an atheist. His wife too. I've heard Whole Soyinka (our only Nobel laureate) is an atheist. Seen Kuti is an atheist. Those ones be mumus abi ? Clap for yasef. Obama's father, Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, CM Punk (of WWE) are atheists. The likes of Estonia, Japan, Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden etc have many atheists and are very well-developed. Same for Russia.

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Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by scarred9jan(m): 12:47am On Jan 05, 2014
chronique: To everyone who says there is no God: all I need y'all to do is to prove to me how man was created/came into existence. If you can tell me how man's flesh was made,how your respiratory system was designed,how your brain was programmed,how the concept of blood being the soul of a man,was achieved,etc;I'd believe there's no God. It's only a fool that will claim He knows for sure,and can give you adequate info on what happened in a place He has never been to. It's only a fool that will come out and contradict historical events that occurred before his/her birth. It's only a fool that will wake up and say a way of life that has been observed by thousands of generations in the past,is false,without giving concrete evidences to prove it. You cannot explain how you came into existence,yet you claim there's no creator or God? Smh. The difference between the fool and the wise is that,the wise will believe there's God,only to find out at the end that there is no God. But the foolish will assume there's no GOD,only to discover at the end,that there is a God that created heaven and earth.

Do you know that a slug has a 70% similarity with the human's DNA? That's two totally distinct lifeforms on earth. If the creationist theory is correct, they should have 0% similarities
Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by UyiIredia(m): 12:48am On Jan 05, 2014
Soon to be Mrs Loretta u ? Happy New Year. I see u.
Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by nep2ra(m): 12:48am On Jan 05, 2014
Okija_juju:


Because he has been raised and programmed to believe so.. grin


Watch as he ferociously denies this fact.

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Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by Nobody: 12:48am On Jan 05, 2014
You have no choice than to accept God as ur Lord and personal saviour so as to please ur mum,urself and God.
Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by scarred9jan(m): 12:51am On Jan 05, 2014
rudedough:

Sorry i'm a religious scholar if that means anything in context, i have studied the Bible many times and also the Qur'an. I can tell you authoritatively that i am very knowledgeable about your Bible and i don't need to find loop holes, i will show you things in your bible that your Pastors haven't come across.

Ask your fellow Christians who have had the opportunity to open that "NEW THREAD" with me and they will tell you one thing, they run away. And please note that the "GRACE and "OLD and NEW COVENANT" nonsensical excuses don't hold when i debate about the bible because i won't be talking about God but about Jesus and pointing out his atrocities, showing you that he is not any different from his father.

If you're in doubt, get a new thread started with a title - Inviting Rudedough to a theoretical debate on Religion.

If you are really serious about taking him up, you start up the thread calling him out.. Or are you scared?
Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by Okijajuju1(m): 12:51am On Jan 05, 2014
Tobmar: You have no choice than to accept God as ur Lord and personal saviour so as to please ur mum,urself and God.


He has no choice?


I think not...
Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by HarryPotter22: 12:56am On Jan 05, 2014
andyanders:

God loves you and there is no sin that He cannot forgive hence He gave His begotten Son, Jesus to die for you and me.

If you love your mum as you prophecy, please submit yourself to God and He will give you an EVERLASTING Joy that NOBODY can take away.

If there is no sin God cannot forgive then he should forgive me for not believing in Jesus or in him and make me go to heaven. Shikena.

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Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by kjhova(m): 12:56am On Jan 05, 2014
Okija_juju:


Well...


People need God to explain the the that are beyond their comprehension and that they are too lazy to investigate..

I may not be the type to say their is no God, but all I can say is that if he indeed exists, I have not seen a darn thing he has done..


Welcome home to atheism then, my dear brother. To hasten your step out of that "god" thing, consider discontinuing usage of the English generic word "god" which can refer to any god or group of deities & insist on addressing these gods by their individual known names. You will soon see more clearly the futility of holding dear to religious notions of deity.
Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by AlfaSeltzer(m): 1:00am On Jan 05, 2014
op, I think that whatever you decide, your mum will eventually die one day anyway.

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Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by Okijajuju1(m): 1:01am On Jan 05, 2014
kj_hova:

Welcome home to atheism then, my dear brother. To hasten your step out of that "god" thing, consider discontinuing usage of the English generic word "god" which can refer to any god or group of deities & insist on addressing these gods by their individual known names. You will soon see more clearly the futility of holding dear to religious notions of deity.


You are preaching to the choir sir..
Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by Nobody: 1:06am On Jan 05, 2014
@OP believe me this is how we re being raised here in nigeria(black mentality) to pretend to be who we are not. Pretension is a bad advice...be yourself

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Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by Nobody: 1:08am On Jan 05, 2014
Repent o ye brethren! For the kingdom of pikkiwoki is at hand!
Repent! Repent!! Repent!!!
Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by Nobody: 1:11am On Jan 05, 2014
Just like Buddha rightly said : believe nothing,question everything even if i told you. Everyone has an opinion,including Jesus,doesn't mean they are right. Make use of your common sense, that is why you are human.

OP you need to follow your own path,not your mum's. She has her path,you have yours.

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Re: My Atheism And Its Effect On My Mum! by kjhova(m): 1:11am On Jan 05, 2014
Alfa Seltzer: op, I think that whatever you decide, your mum will eventually die one day anyway.


My mum has tried this approach with me severally but has now accepted that this is my opinion. Just yesterday, my wife was in tears in attempt to force church into my 2014 resolutions. A few bosses & colleagues at work has tried to talk (& also threaten) me back to religion. Some neighbours discontinued every interaction with me on this matter. I am not obstinate nor am I just stiff-necked. I have clearly explained my position to everyone I encounter. Which is that "a human being is responsible for ALL his acts".

At any rate, most people who have disagreed with my opinion have had cause to respect me for my humane & caring behaviour. And that includes my wife who is a worker in her church but wouldn't ever consider to leave me for any of those brothers in the lord! Some brothers they really are as a pastor Fatoyinbo comes to mind immediately!!

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