@Tenderchic; dey don't do ART der otherwise, nothin 4 bring me come dis pricey Abuja . But since u recide here, u can try Laparoscopy(lap&dye) at Nisa Premier, a more sophisticated but definate technique were an incision will be made on ur navel & an instrument wit a camera is inserted 2 view d womb while a dye solution is passed tru d cervix 2d tubes. U'll be given d video after d proceedure as it is done unda anaesthesia but an outpatient proceedure. Wen I did mine 2012, I paid N120k. Don't know of now. It's usually done by one Dr Ola, a consultant based in d UK. Whichever u decide, confirm d patency of ur tubes 1st den we can take it up frm there. Don't mind who sugested ICSI 4u. Its NOT applicable 4u.
1st tins 1st; inform dh so u don't shut d door of favour against urself. In my case who knows if I ve kept it frm my Dh maybe d result frm VICAS would ve been same wit d 1st. Becos were I did d 1st was also credible; a consultant radiologist 4 over 20yrs wit 44 reference hosp kaduna. I belive God did a miracle 4 me. But weda it was a mistake, its 2d Glory of God 4 exposing & putting d devil 2 shame.
Abundant baby dust all over ur body

@Tenderchic; sorry 4 double post

modaofnations:

Pls can u explain how u inserted it & is garlic medicinal 4 vaginal infections? Dis is a welcome idea as I try 2 avoid antibiotics as much as I can. Pls throw more light; did u marsh d garlic b4 inserting? Wat quantity? How deep?

I used 1 small garlic, peeled the back/peel n insert into vija. It is good for some infection and it is better to insert at night cos u feel d taste in ur mouth when u insert. Pls don't marsh d garlic. Just put 1 or 2 tiny cut or hole

@Modaofnations hw r u and the family? pls can u send me ur phone number we need to talk urgently on the matter of dr george in kaduna am new on this forum and am a silent reader too waiting for ur qucik reply tanks. my email address is stelladestar@yahoo.com

Fruitfulmommy1:


I used 1 small garlic, peeled the back/peel n insert into vija. It is good for some infection and it is better to insert at night cos u feel d taste in ur mouth when u insert. Pls don't marsh d garlic. Just put 1 or 2 tiny cut or hole

Thanks dear.

mumydidi:
@Modaofnations hw r u and the family? pls can u send me ur phone number we need to talk urgently on the matter of dr george in kaduna am new on this forum and am a silent reader too waiting for ur qucik reply tanks. my email address is stelladestar@yahoo.com

My dear mumydidi, dis forum is open 4 discusion on watsoever is bothering u. No one is an island of ideas. I usually encourage people 2 bring questions 2d floor of d huse so others can contribute. I ve said d much I know about vicas. I know dey're good with dat SonaHSg stuff cos I've done it der but 4 any oda tin I mite not be able 2 guarantee but wit d kind of crowd I've witness d few xs I visited coupled wit testimonies I've heard. I belive they're good. I don't ve issue giving u my no But as u already know, its a faceless forum & internet 4 dat matter; D reason we don't use actual names or numbers as u can be linked 2 ur facebk page via ur tel no. And u neva can tell who's monitoring u or wer d cause of ur problem is coming frm. My sister, na Naija we de. Watch & pray. . On a serious note, feel free & ask all questns let experience modas esp those in kaduna who know d place add their views. It'll enable u judge betta. Better still, as a new guest, u can try 2 go tru dis or ttc thread frm scratch as u mite learn a lot of tins. Immeasureable baby dust on u.

@modaofnation I want to know if that hsg is the same with the one they do in other hospitals and after which is there guarantee that the tubes open,Wats the difference between this one they do at kaduna and the one u did at nisa premire And am no scam I know is hard to trust ppl but not my kind,u could just post the number on ♍♈ mail I will appreciate it cos its better to verify properly from u before going from abuja to kaduna. I just called d doc and his wife picked and said is 20k for the test and flushing exempting card

@mumydidi; my darling mumydidi pls don't be offended. Am not refering 2u concerning scammers. A lot of guest are on dis tread daily & any1 can pik d no if posted openly. But if it's email, no problem. But as I explained, SonaHSG is difrent. As they're passing d liquid solution tru d Vjay, a normal scan is done concurrently & u'll be viewing ur womb on d scanning machine screen & see how d liquid is passing tru d tubes & droping at d other end if tubes are patent. Its quite difrent frm d usual Hsg wer afta d liquid is passed u wait 4d Xray snapshot. Laparoscopy is a more improved technique. U can google d proceedures sha 4 clearer understanding. Baby dust ur way

Thanx ebube 4 ur knowlageable adv. My lh is 48.2 n fsh 98.4 as at 2010, so I got angry n didn't check again since then n ds is eaten me up. My weight is b/w 85 n 90kg though am tall, but all my research says I shld cut down my weight ch am tryin 2. I want 2 know if any one in d house has experienced something like this or knows someone who can help me am 49 years.


How high is your FHS and LH? Whats your age bracket? Also what is your AMH level? Do you ovulate? Are you overweight? And please do not say your story is pathetic. Wait on the Lord. He will answer you and give you all your children at his appointed time. All you have to do is pray for his directions. It shall be well. [/quote]

celan:
Thanx ebube 4 ur knowlageable adv. My lh is 48.2 n fsh 98.4 as at 2010, so I got angry n didn't check again since then n ds is eaten me up. My weight is b/w 85 n 90kg though am tall, but all my research says I shld cut down my weight ch am tryin 2. I want 2 know if any one in d house has experienced something like this or knows someone who can help me am 49 years.
How high is your FHS and LH? Whats your age bracket? Also what is your AMH level? Do you ovulate? Are you overweight? And please do not say your story is pathetic. Wait on the Lord. He will answer you and give you all your children at his appointed time. All you have to do is pray for his directions. It shall be well.

. Some of these supplements along with your doctors advice might help you by the will of God. http://one-in-ten-million..de/?m=1

@Celan Hmmmmnnn. your levels are high oooo I must tell you and this simply means that even if you ovulate your eggs will most probably be of poor quality. Mine was 21 last year and after series of medications it came down to 18 which is still high as anything more than 10 is considered high. You need to get on DHEA (micronized), Coq10, Fish oil, Melatonin, Vit C, Wheatgrass, Royal Jelly, Vitex etc and if you can Accupunture and Yoga. They are still some other supplements but I took all these plus of course your prenatal supplements.

And its not just cut down weigh, more like you need to exercise so that they will be more blood flow to your reproductive system.

But then again have you considered egg donor? With a donor as long as your womb is okay your chances are as good as the persons age. Discuss with your DH though because the above supplements will take some time to work and the decrease might not be significant enough for a change. Above all Pray, there is nothing God cannot do.

Hello all,i hope our day is going well? pls does anyone on this forum know about Dr abdullahi jacob of winners lab garki and hw effective his drugs are on fertility issues. @modaofnations was their any visible change wen u had the sonahsg and d drugs that was prescribed. i wish us all a beautiful and fulfilled day.

Hello my people,pls which supplement is the best to take prior to IVF pregnacare or fertilaid? You can specify any other supplement you know.thanks

i have been reading about this IVF thing and found out that the success rate is not 100% all over the world. You guyz should check this link out
http://www.hfea.gov.uk/ivf-success-rate.html

pumps007:
i have been reading about this IVF thing and found out that the success rate is not 100% all over the world. You guyz should check this link out
http://www.hfea.gov.uk/ivf-success-rate.html

This is No News. Even if there's only 1% Success rate, We, on dis thread constitute dat 1%. We work by Faith and not by Sight, News or Scientific hypothesis.
Thanks anyhow 4 ur con3bution.

@all; I learnt in Church 2day dat Just as Faith cometh by hearing The Word, Faith is also dampened by hearing & listening 2 negative people & news, Reading negative news etc.
Pls don't dampen ur faith by reading or paying attention 2 tins contrary 2 ur beliefs.
@mumydidi; I tried opening my mail on my phone but witout success as I was asked 2 log in tru d usual device which is my labtop. I'll try 2 load my modem 2moro & send u a mail. Meanwhile, like i explained, I visited cos I thot my tubes wer blocked based on my 1st result,but it turned out it wasn't. so d flushing was neva done on me. But flushing 2 my understanding isn't a separate proceedure, its just dat pressure is applied on d pump 2 push out wateva is blocking d tubes. D gd tin is dat u're viewing wat's happening but wit dis increase in price, u mite spend close to 25k including TP & card(1k). I tink some1 should be able 2 get a credible place here in Abuja 2 do it? Abi?

Tenderchic:
@ Thanks Modafornations, iam happy for u. Though still waiting for the whole story. ....... Could You pls do me a favour by sending the Doctors' contact in Kaduna to my email (chi4xtian@yahoo.com). Also wll highly appreciate it if u can also drop ur number for us to discuss more extensively.

Didn't see this on tyme. Couldn't access my email account via my phone. Will send u a mail 2moro God's willing. I posted d Dr's no before. Check my previous post. I just learnt their price has even increased. It is well

Tenderchic:
@ Godmercies, @mumglows,@ olubankemi, fruitfulmommy1 and suremanpatriot thanks a lot for ur advice. @ sremanpatriots pls do u hv aNy idea where I can get ICSi service in Abj and for d tubal flushing?.

Sure icsi is happening there in Abuja. But pls note that it is not our goal to advertise any centre but to provide you high value info to succeed in your ttc. We appreciate your commendations lets give God the glory, thanks.
Now, for your icsi in Abuja, Visit Ruz Medical and Diagnostic Centre at 31, Ubiaja Crescent,
off Akintola Boulevard, Garki 2 , Abuja.
Telephone: +234 (0) 0806 869 4464, (0) 802 449 0378 Or
visit Primus International Super specialty Hospital Karu New Extension, Abuja, Nigeria
+234 80856 10379, 81088 47815 . Though they are quite expensive but well equipped with good success rate.
Ensure that you pay for consultation get all the facts from both before deciding the one that suits you as couple

Ebube2014:
@suremanpatriot
"Now blocked tubes is why you qualify to do ivf. But this time around you do a more advanced ivf called icsi, though more expensive"

I believe this statement is not correct. You do not do ICSI because of blocked tubes, the main reason for ICSI is male factor infertility. For blocked tubes surgeries may be performed to remove adhesions, dilate a tube( tube flushing) or create a new tubal opening. However, this is rarely done, as pregnancy rates are usually better with IVF. For hydrosalpinx, removal of your tubes (salpingectomy) or blocking the tubes close to the uterus can improve your chances of pregnancy with IVF.

No no no its unfair to attack suremanpatriot the way you did. We know what he was explaining that icsi is faster and more precise with block tube. Lets allow ppl who know it to share useful knowledge to enhance ttc success. My doc told me that new ivf dispensation is about saving money and high success rate. And this fits into wht surnman is trying to help do here.
Look my friend u don't know the burden that is being remove,I don't know ur agenda here to discredit gd wk, just let the guy be. Already suremanpatrot's post explanations here remove ambiguity about tcc, we don't need exchanges of crossfire on med technicality. We need to know direct tested solutions to save us waiting nightmares ,so dt ppl can get the info in a very clear message. What suremsn said is same my gyna said about icsi is that it is more advanced ivf, because fusion is done by the expert. Secondly it is of no use wasting time/ resource flushing blocked tubes where most cases it could block again and cause ectopic pregn misery for the couple.
Pls no destructive or negative criticism should be used to bloc the truth here.

Good day to beautiful mamas, i am new in this forum. My own case is unexplained infertility, thou i had done iui in one of this specialist hospital at ikeja mid last year for three circle but it was not successful. Am just afraid to go for the ivf, meanwhile i don't even want to go back to the hospital that i did the iui again. Can the house suggest a place for me around ikeja that is very good in ivf. My sisters i need your prayer, support and words or encouragement. Thank you all.

lol @romanticcandy......" i believe" is not an attack, its the way I understand the literature. Please back your statement with medical science. ICSI is using a needle to inject a single sperm into the egg. Traditional IVF is throwing all the eggs and the sperm together and the sperm that first gets to the eggs fertilizes them. Again ICSI is about 200k more expensive so how are we saving money with ICSI? I am not here to fight or attack anyone and believe me this is not an attack its just correcting a wrong statement and all you have to do is do your research and prove me wrong.

So what you are telling me is that if she has 15 or 20 eggs retrieved she should go ahead and ICSI all 15? When she has no male factor issue. Do you know that a blocked tube can be opened with a simple procedure as HSG? My dear this forum did a lot for me. Brought me back from months of crying and depression so I feel a duty to make sure all literature here are correct even if I have to spend my precious time doing research on a statement that doesn't sound right to me.

If you feel offended i am sorry about that but the above statements are facts and not aimed at attacking anyone.

modaofnations:

Thank you but it is not our portion. Deuteronomy 7:15; God has promised 2 take away sickness & disease frm us and place them upon the bodies of our Enemies & those dat hate us.
So u can Redirect dis message 2 our enemies.

Totally wrong mentality. Ivf or icsi kids are no diffnt Fr naturally conceived,if ur ivf clinic did the right procedure. Stop spreading this false assumption because many ivf kids are in expensive and big universities doing great.

pumps007:
i have been reading about this IVF thing and found out that the success rate is not 100% all over the world. You guyz should check this link out
http://www.hfea.gov.uk/ivf-success-rate.html

It is 100% with God Fr the start to delivery. It is God's gift to couples with fertility challenges and not for show.

modaofnations:
@Tenderchic; dey don't do ART der otherwise, nothin 4 bring me come dis pricey Abuja . But since u recide here, u can try Laparoscopy(lap&dye) at Nisa Premier, a more sophisticated but definate technique were an incision will be made on ur navel & an instrument wit a camera is inserted 2 view d womb while a dye solution is passed tru d cervix 2d tubes. U'll be given d video after d proceedure as it is done unda anaesthesia but an outpatient proceedure. Wen I did mine 2012, I paid N120k. Don't know of now. It's usually done by one Dr Ola, a consultant based in d UK. Whichever u decide, confirm d patency of ur tubes 1st den we can take it up frm there. Don't mind who sugested ICSI 4u. Its NOT applicable 4u.
1st tins 1st; inform dh so u don't shut d door of favour against urself. In my case who knows if I ve kept it frm my Dh maybe d result frm VICAS would ve been same wit d 1st. Becos were I did d 1st was also credible; a consultant radiologist 4 over 20yrs wit 44 reference hosp kaduna. I belive God did a miracle 4 me. But weda it was a mistake, its 2d Glory of God 4 exposing & putting d devil 2 shame.
Abundant baby dust all over ur body

Whether you settle for ivf or icsi,ensure you do so in a standard ivf clinic closer to you. And ensure you tell them to refer u to the right place to do laparoscopy or whatever procedure needed b4 ivf ,don't just go on your own or on hear say,but go on the gynae recommendation because this is med Sci. It saves you trouble of wandering Fr pillar to post.

calaharry:

Totally wrong mentality. Ivf or icsi kids are no diffnt Fr naturally conceived,if ur ivf clinic did the right procedure. Stop spreading this false assumption because many ivf kids are in expensive and big universities doing great.

@calaharry; I guess u quoted d wrong person. We're saying d same tin. I was responding 2 wat ADRIC said about ivf kids coming down with cerebral palsy. Read original post below

Re: Anyone Trying IVF/IUI/ICSI (Fertility Treatments)? by ADRIC(m): 5:52am On Oct 05
ivf and icsi are not safe..because the child might might av celebral palsy

@suremanpatriot, Romanticandy, Calaharry" Be very careful and do not let the wrought of God descend on you. Please desist from causing confusion here now before its too late. This is a group of women trying to find solution to their issues and I dont know what a young boy like you hopes to benefit from causing confusion here. Stop and desist or else our God will give you something to worry about.

May God of peace return and rule onto this forum. May he remove and destroy any negative spirit from this forum. Amen.

Ebube2014:
@suremanpatriot, Romanticandy, Calaharry" Be very careful and do not let the wrought of God descend on you. Please desist from causing confusion here now before its too late. This is a group of women trying to find solution to their issues and I dont know what a young boy like you hopes to benefit from causing confusion here. Stop and desist or else our God will give you something to worry about.
May God of peace return and rule onto this forum. May he remove and destroy any negative spirit from this forum. Amen.

Very funny o. I am really laughing. Romanticandy is a guy o. Check his topics. Infact they are just 3 on nl. He is in the dating zone looking for a girl to drive wild. Lmao. If you ask me these names belong to one person trying to convince people that suremanpatriot is for real. Haba how would someone say ICSI is for blocked tubes. Abi the egg don turn tubes. Romanticandy please tell your gynae to meet fertility specialists for better understanding if he or she cant browse or use Google.

Hahaha! Just by reading there posts I know they are cohorts already. Let them just be ignored or better still we report to moderators to take down their post so they don't misinform naïve people.

Venus has said it all, it's best to ignore them cos by replying n quoting their posts u make them relevant which is really not necessary. If somebody is trying to draw people's attention to the fact that ivf success rate is only one percent with all the plenty testimonies of successful ivf here and other threads, is it not display of ignorance? I saw most of these posts including that of deconsult and I choose to ignore them so i'll advice u Babes to do the same. There are lots of jobless youths roaming the pages of social media sites and NL is not left out so pls let them keep roaming, it's allowed but don't give them credence by replying them. Just correct whatever misconceptions they post and move on. Baby dusts to all remaining mums in God's waiting room.

mamas of great nation,we shld nt ignore them cos many people comes in as guest here to draw strenght,if we do they may fall victim of their scam.in tcc thread we hv fbi Dasho1 and others thats what we want here. Thanks