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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:30pm On Nov 22, 2014
patches689:


Thales Optronics Vicon 18-601E

Hawks targetting pods.

Gripen can perform ISTAR for the Hawk

What are you even trying to prove?

He is trying to say the hawk can't use PGMs. Don't know why though.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:33pm On Nov 22, 2014
agaugust:


I mean 18km to 40km, Nigerian artillery numbers and range beats South Africa.

Gripens will be too far away to h.it ATR-42, with our 330km range radar, we see your army far away, but with 25km range missiles, Gripen cannot hit ATR-42 out of range and operation from far behind Nigerian lines, while F-7 NI with PL-9C missiles intercept any Gripen that wants to take a risk and die.

Yes Cuba has ZSU-23-4 Shilka, reason why SADF was avoiding flying close support combat sorties, your air force was half asleep during the Angolan war for fear of MiG-23 and ZSU-23 guns and SA-2 missile air defenses.

Cowards of Johannesburg grin grin
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1. Nigerian arty max range is 27km
2. Who says the ATR has 300km radar? And how long will it take a Gripen flying at Mach 2 to catch an ATR flying at 556 km/h?
3. F-7NI is not even in the same generation as the Gripen. What makes you think it stands a chance? Grips are made to fight MIG-29's... your obsolete jet would not even rank as an irritation to the Grip pilot.
4. In 1979 alone, SAAF flew no less than 1 112 Sorties against Angolan/Cuban air-defences alone.
https://www.google.co/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CD8QFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ajol.info%2Findex.php%2Fsmsajms%2Farticle%2Fdownload%2F89169%2F78723&ei=yKtwVKPVE5Tc8AXn3YGABg&usg=AFQjCNEY0bcTH3M5FprOOWBpKmnQmAn8nA&sig2=YYqT2gxysCj00og4HceNkA&cad=rjt

Nigerian Airforce has never engaged in Air-to-Air combat
Nigerian Airforce has never been up against a modern air-defence network

Yet, Nigerian planes get shot down by peasants...

#Wrecked

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:41pm On Nov 22, 2014
agaugust:


You were trying to call an attempted coup detat a war, so I silenced you grin grin

SADF has Korean war and Namibian war experience from 1966 to 1988 , Cuba had nothing !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namibian_War_of_Independence

You are the dip shiit retaard, not me grin grin
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Cuba entered Angola in 1975
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_intervention_in_Angola

South Africa's first incursion into Angola was the same year - 1975
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Savannah_(Angola)

Police handled the insurgency in Northern Namibia until 1974, only then did the SADF take direct command
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Border_War

And before then, Cuban soldiers fought in:


A 5 year civil war
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Revolution

The bay of pigs - involved 240 000 men
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion

Cuban soldiers had also seen combat in

- Congo Crisis
- Bolivia Insurgency
- Eritrean War
- Yom Kippur War

So, what was it you were saying?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 4:57pm On Nov 22, 2014
agaugust:


Your SA special forces men can see a ship in Angolan deep ocean 300km offshore while sitting in their army barracks in Soweto?

Show me a South African satellite working today 2014, an earth observation settelite used by SANDF.....show me !

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I will prove you wrong soon just like I did with your artillery.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 5:35pm On Nov 22, 2014
Nigeria has zero military spy satellite. All Nigeria's satellites are used for disaster management, communication and internet services. People, there is nothing special about Nigeria's satellites.




http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24025-how-nigeria-has-been-using-its-satellites.html

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:04pm On Nov 22, 2014
CHADIAN PRESIDENT'S ASSOCIATE ARRESTED FOR SMUGGLING MISSILES TO BOKO HARAM ! ! ! !
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http://saharareporters.com/2014/11/22/political-associate-chadian-president-idriss-déby-arrested-missiles-meant-boko-haram
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An associate of the chadian president,mahamat bichara gnoti,has been arrested on the chad-sudan border,when he was caught trying to smuggle in 19 SAM2 which were bought from the sudanese army.according to mahamat,the chadian president idriss déby itno,gave him the money to purchase the deadly missiles which were meant to be given to boko haram terrorists operating in north eastern nigeria,he was reported to have a presidential pass.earlier this year,it was reported that the chadian president milked the nigeria government millions of dollars all in the name of negotiating a cease fire with boko haram,an effort which proved futile.the nigerian intelligence agency and the nigerian NSA has been notified of the arrest,but are yet to make any official statement about the new development.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:13pm On Nov 22, 2014
SA2 is old but would be a nasty suprise for NAF. Nigeria got luck. Of course I will await more details.


PS Bleep Chad, they supported seleka.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:16pm On Nov 22, 2014
LIST OF COUNTRIES THAT HAVE SATELLITES IN ORBIT.

THIS IS FOR @AGAUGUST





http://space.skyrocket.de/directories/sat_c.htm

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:19pm On Nov 22, 2014
EVarn:
CHADIAN PRESIDENT'S ASSOCIATE ARRESTED FOR SMUGGLING MISSILES TO BOKO HARAM ! ! ! !
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http://saharareporters.com/2014/11/22/political-associate-chadian-president-idriss-déby-arrested-missile-meant-boko-haram
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An associate of the chadian president,mahamat bichara gnoti,has been arrested on the chad-sudan border,when he was caught trying to smuggle in 19 SAM2 which was bought from the sudanese army.according to mahamat,the chadian president idriss déby itno,gave him the money to purchase the deadly missiles which were meant to be given to boko haram terrorists operating in north eastern nigeria,he was reported to have a presidential pass.earlier this year,it was reported that the chadian president milked the nigeria government millions of dollars all in the name of negotiating a cease fire with boko haram,an effort which proved futile.the nigerian intelligence agency and the nigerian NSA has been notified of the arrest,but are yet to make any official statement about the new development.


Attach a new link please.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:23pm On Nov 22, 2014
andrewza:
SA2 is old but would be a nasty suprise for NAF. Nigeria got luck. Of course I will await more details.


PS Bleep Chad, they supported seleka.


That's true, Seleka had among them special forces from Chad.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:27pm On Nov 22, 2014
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:32pm On Nov 22, 2014
mzilakazi:



Attach a new link please.
both links have been fixed
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:56pm On Nov 22, 2014
To all South African-any information about kondor-E military spy satellite from project Flute. I heard the satellite was clandestinely launched in Russia after it spiked debates following its accidental exposure from the expo. Any info please.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:33pm On Nov 22, 2014
Kondor-E military spy satellite belongs to SA- Confirmed.




http://russianspaceweb.com/kondor-e.html
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 7:51pm On Nov 22, 2014
mzilakazi:
Kondor-E military spy satellite belongs to SA- Confirmed.




http://russianspaceweb.com/kondor-e.html
LOL.see this mumu,you guys havent even seen money to feed your people,you're talking about imaginary spy satellites.seriously,how do some governments even reason like sudanese goats?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 7:55pm On Nov 22, 2014
mzilakazi:
To all South African-any information about kondor-E military spy satellite from project Flute. I heard the satellite was clandestinely launched in Russia after it spiked debates following its accidental exposure from the expo. Any info please.
oghie nitse vha gbeme.which spy satellite are you talking about?,the one thats gonna be launched into space when your great great grandchildren become toothless?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:59pm On Nov 22, 2014
EVarn:
oghie nitse vha gbeme.which spy satellite are you talking about?,the one thats gonna be launched into space when you great great grandchildren become toothless?

The kondor was launch this year.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:00pm On Nov 22, 2014
EVarn:
LOL.see this mumu,you guys havent even seen money to feed your people,you're talking about imaginary spy satellites.seriously,how do some governments even reason like sudanese goats?

There are far less hungry people in SA than nigeria.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:04pm On Nov 22, 2014
andrewza:


The kondor was launch this year.
kudos to your government then.hope it doesnt disintegrate in space within 16 months.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:07pm On Nov 22, 2014
andrewza:

There are far less hungry people in SA than nigeria.
funny dude.didnt your government starve you in CAR and DRC.i thought you claimed to be a soldier.no nigerian is hungry here,we dont depend on peanuts and snow.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:10pm On Nov 22, 2014
patches689:


Hawk uses the Thales Optronics Vicon 18-601E

And in anycase, Gripen can perform ISTAR for the Hawks who can deliver the stand off munitions from 150km away

Gripen jet uses BVR missiles but SAAF does NOT have it.

Same way SAAF did not buy ANY SINGLE Hawk jet targeting pod, sharaaap liar !!!!
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 8:12pm On Nov 22, 2014
EVarn:
LOL.see this mumu,you guys havent even seen money to feed your people,you're talking about imaginary spy satellites.seriously,how do some governments even reason like sudanese goats?

There're more poor hungry people in Nigeria than there's people in South Africa..

www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-17015873
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:16pm On Nov 22, 2014
patches689:


Hawk uses the Thales Optronics Vicon 18-601E

And in anycase, Gripen can perform ISTAR for the Hawks who can deliver the stand off munitions from 150km away

Gripen radar tracking range for ground targets is only about 60km

Gripen jet uses BVR missiles but your half baked SAAF Gripen does NOT have it.

Same way SAAF did not buy ANY SINGLE Hawk jet targeting pod, sharaaap liar !!!!
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 8:17pm On Nov 22, 2014
Thiza:
Development, testing and evaluation are complete and the SA Military Health Service (SAMHS) now has a fully equipped chemical and biological analysis mobile laboratory further boosting its arsenal of life saving equipment.

The MCBDL (mobile chemical and biological detection laboratory) is a product of Protechnik Laboratories, a company in Armscor’s portfolio of defence science and technology institutes. It worked in conjunction with TFD, a South African lead logistics provider, to complete the first phase of the MCBDL in 2011 after which the unit was deployed at Armscor’s Alkantpan test range for evaluation.

A spokesman said the mobile lab “performed well in the rugged Northern Cape environment”. Additionally, and more importantly, it integrated “seamlessly” with 7 Medical Battalion Group’s incident detection group during a mock chemical weapons attack exercise.

The evaluation led to additional client requirement being identified. These included the need/means to transport consumables and services for the laboratory, a decontamination system for waste water and personnel, a rest and administration area, as well as additional ancillary requirements to ensure independent operation of the laboratory.

The second phase of development saw these requirements incorporated as well as a support container system. This work was completed and tested last year.

The laboratory consists of two standard ISO containers: the laboratory and a support container deployed close together, with tenting covering the space between them to provide a sheltered area for personnel to relax and carry out routine tasks. Both containers have been designed to be fitted onto and transported by IVECO trucks adapted for roll-on roll-off systems. This means the MCBDL fits into 7 Medical Battalion Group’s available infrastructure, practices and SOPs.

Making the MCBDL different from similar defence laboratories is that it is not just a system based on field portable detection. It is, a Protechnik spokesman said, a mobile laboratory containing the same equipment found in a static research facility.

The lab was designed to provide a safe analytical environment, where the focus is not on the equipment but on the infrastructure housing it. This means additional equipment can be integrated into the lab as needs change, for example for HIV and tuberculosis diagnostics or for analysis of environmental samples for pesticides.

Scientists do not wear protective clothing in a tented structure adjacent to the laboratory. They will either wear gowns and respirators or level B chemical suits, depending on the threat identified in the field. A scientist enters the lab via an access-controlled double door changing cubicle. Access is granted by a computerised system only if safe pressure levels are present inside the laboratory. Once inside the cubicle the pressures of the three compartments may be seen in a digital display system. When the pressure of the lab has normalised the scientist can enter either the preparation or analytical compartment.

Samples are introduced from the outside by the 7 Medical Battalion Group detection team via a pass-through box system, a design unique to this lab. The pass-through box is evacuated passively and air is filtered using gas mask filter canisters, manufactured by Hazmat, a division of Armscor. Similarly, all air entering and leaving the lab is filtered using a gas mask canister array (also unique to this project). These Armscor manufactured off the shelf items can be acquired and changed rapidly during laboratory operation, reducing downtime.

The sample is then either placed in a class 2 biosafety cabinet, or class 3 glove-box; depending on sample type and risk status. The sample is then processed using standard scientific methods developed at Protechnik Laboratories. Once the sample is processed it is passed to the analytical compartment, via a pass-through chamber, for analysis.

Scientific investigations/methods that can be performed in the MCBDL include bacterial cell culture; animal cell culture in a dedicated carbon dioxide incubator; cytotoxicity testing; light and inverted microscopy; bacterial staining; microbial metabolic testing; real-time Polymerase Chain Reaction; ELISA; solid phase chemical extraction; basic chemistry sample preparation, and gas chromatography – mass spectrometry.

As far as emergency and safety is concerned the laboratory is under negative pressure with directional airflow to prevent the escape of harmful chemicals or pathogens. Air entering the lab is HEPA filtered and air leaving the lab is HEPA-carbon filtered. Water leaving the lab is filtered through particle filters, carbon filters and then chemically treated. Solid waste is autoclaved inside the laboratory before it is removed. Besides engineering controls, doctrine for safe use, for example, PPE type and use has been established for both chemical and biological work.

A chemical shower is fitted to the laboratory exit. A scientist is decontaminated chemically and washed down by high pressure sprayers fitted to the shower. Water from this process is collected and treated prior to disposal.

In the event of gross contamination within the laboratory, the container may be fumigated with chlorine dioxide gas, using a specially designed fumigation port fitted to the outside of the lab.

Awesome!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:17pm On Nov 22, 2014
agaugust:


Gripen jet uses BVR missiles but SAAF does NOT have it.

Same way SAAF did not buy ANY SINGLE Hawk jet targeting pod, sharaaap liar !!!!
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We built them our selfs.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:19pm On Nov 22, 2014
ActivateKruger:


There're more poor hungry people in Nigeria than there's people in South Africa..

www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-17015873
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:22pm On Nov 22, 2014
andrewza:


We built them our selfs.

You built Umbani bombs yourselves and Sweden refused to allow it work on your own Gripen jets, you got screwed up after all the billions of dollars you paid your Swedish masters for the over-rated and poorly armed Gripens of SAAF grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:23pm On Nov 22, 2014
andrewza:


We built them our selfs.

Mandela's over-priced Hawk Jets have no targeting pods, it only uses FLIR like NAF Mi-35 Hind helicopters grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:26pm On Nov 22, 2014
i thought mzilakazi recently said that boko haram didnt know how to use SAMs?,that shows you how igorant he is.boko haram is a trained terrorist group.it pains me when saffers who dont know anything about terrorism come here to {attempt to} rub shoulders with experience and intelligent people.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:26pm On Nov 22, 2014
agaugust:


Mandela's over-priced Hawk Jets have no targeting pods, it only uses FLIR like NAF Mi-35 Hind helicopters grin grin
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I will prove you wrong soon.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:28pm On Nov 22, 2014
EVarn:
i thought mzilakazi recently said that boko haram didnt know how to use SAMs?,that shows you how igorant he is.boko haram is a trained terrorist group.it pains me when saffers who dont know anything about terrorism come here to {attempt to} rub shoulders with experience and intelligent people.


Since when did you ever see BH using SAM against your jets?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:31pm On Nov 22, 2014
agaugust:


You built Umbani bombs yourselves and Sweden refused to allow it work on your own Gripen jets, you got screwed up after all the billions of dollars you paid your Swedish masters for the over-rated and poorly armed Gripens of SAAF grin grin
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Really? Yet they let us intgrat the A-dartar and our HMD? Never though it was not done purly for cost? Nope because you are a ID10T

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