agaugust:


Mandela's over-priced Hawk Jets have no targeting pods, it only uses FLIR like NAF Mi-35 Hind helicopters
.

Hawk over priced? It is list has the lowest running cost advance jet trainer.

Unlike your hind the hawk can use Radar of 3rd pary sytems though.

patches689:


F-7 is obsolete and largely grounded:
"Right now in the Nigerian Air Force we have equipment that is obsolete and with a low [availability]," - Nigerian Aiforce spokesman
http://www.janes.com/article/45858/nigeria-wants-to-procure-scorpion-isr-and-light-attack-jet


Pakistan does your maintenance for you, and trains your pilots:

The Pakistan Air Force is assisting the Nigerian Air Force with maintenance and training for its F-7 fighter jets and in building the Nigerian Air Force’s capacity.

Pana reports that Pakistani Air Force personnel are present in Nigeria working to maintain Nigerian aircraft. Two Pakistani pilots are providing technical assistance for the Air Force’s Chinese-built F-7NI and FT-7NI jets. Pakistan also operates the type and has trained Nigerian pilots.
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30548:pakistan-assisting-nigerian-air-force&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

I have been back for less than 20min and I have exposed 2 separate lies.

The only lie I see exposed is yours.

SAAB of Sweden has white engineers maintaining SAAF Gripen jets for you, same way NAF uses Pakistanis

After paying millions of dollars bribe to SAAB officials to sell Gripens to you, they still milk you dry for maintenance cash until you could no longer afford it and froze 14 Gripens into long term storage
.

EVarn:
LOL.see this mumu,you guys havent even seen money to feed your people,you're talking about imaginary spy satellites.seriously,how do some governments even reason like sudanese goats?

Wahahahahahaha!!! you were making noise about SA's not having any military satellite. Now we bring you a source and you unreasonably dispute it. You've now realised that in fact is Nigeria that suffers a real lacking of military spy satellite technology. So, should I make a noise about your deficiency of real spy equipments which operate in all weather, day and night conditions.

mzilakazi:

Since when did you ever see BH using SAM against your jets?

and thats supposed to mean that they cant use SAMs?,or that they cant be trained to use them?.that you dont have an apple doesnt mean you dont know how to eat one.boko haram do not have SAMs YET,but it doest mean they cant use them.

andrewza:


Hawk over priced? It is list has the lowest running cost advance jet trainer.

Unlike your hind the hawk can use Radar of 3rd pary sytems though.

There is a big difference between receiving information about a target's location and having a fvcking 3km short range FLIR to lock-on and fire weapons at the same target
.

agaugust:


The only lie I see exposed is yours.

SAAB of Sweden has white engineers maintaining SAAF Gripen jets for you, same way NAF uses Pakistanis

After paying millions of dollars bribe to SAAB officials to sell Gripens to you, they still milk you dry for maintenance cash until you could no longer afford it and froze 14 Gripens into long term storage
.

That's untrue. Sweden has officially transfered the skill of maintaining Gripens to SA based engineers. Do you even know that some of Brazialian gripens will be fitted parts in SA? Get some education please.

mzilakazi:

Wahahahahahaha!!! you were making noise about SA's not having any military satellite. Now we bring you a source and you unreasonably dispute it. You've now realised that in fact is Nigeria that suffers a real lacking of military spy satellite technology. So, should I make a noise about your deficiency of real spy equipments which operate in all weather, day and night conditions.

you mean the spy satellite that russia IS MAKING for you?.incase you havent noticed dear,russia is under HEAVY sanctions,and only God knows when it gonna be lifted{putin is a stubborn man},so wait for you precious spy satellite till 5014.

EVarn:
and thats supposed to mean that they cant use SAMs?,or that they cant be trained to use them?.that you dont have an apple doesnt mean you dont know how to eat one.boko haram do not have SAMs YET,but it doest mean they cant use them.

BH has never used SAMs before in any of their engagement. So, let us leave this rumours until they have been properly verified by your military.

However, since your military wanted to procure new jets, I think insurgents also needed to step up their weapons.

patches689:


South Africa has 1 sattelights

Nigeria's sattelights are not military grade

South Africa has ZERO satellites.

Nigerian satellites are operated and controlled by 100 military officers with relevant masters and doctoral degrees...


NEWS AGENCY OF NIGERIA
May 18, 2012
Abuja


NigeriaSat-2,one of four Nigerian satellites(NigeriaSat-1,NigeriaSat-X and NIGCOMSAT-1R) in orbit.

Nigeria would launch a locally manufactured satellite and in 2025 develop rocket and propulsion system. “In 2026 we have allies in electronics and software involved in space technology, and in 2028 we would now launch a Nigeria made satellite.”

Ewa enumerated the achievements of the ministry to include the launch of two low earth observation satellites – NigeriaSat-2 and NigeriaSat-X as well as a communication satellite-NigComSat-1R. He also said a rocketry was successfully launched on Wednesday in Epe, Lagos, while about 40 doctors and 60 masters degree holders had been trained in space technologies.

“100 personnel from the military who have been trained in space applications this year are now ready to be involved in surveillance satellite project.”

andrewza:


Diffreince is the Hawk is cleard to use a pod. And the Hawks FLIR is not the same has your hinds FLIR.

NAF F-7 and Alpha jets are cleared to use the manufacturer specified targetingpods, but we don't have them, but the Pakistanis and the French do have.
.

EVarn:
you mean the spy satellite that russia IS MAKING for you?.incase you havent noticed dear,russia is under HEAVY sanctions,and only God knows when it gonna be lifted{putin is a stubborn man},so wait for you precious spy satellite till 5014.

Who cares by the way? Did Egypt care or Nigeria when they had theirs built for them by foreign companies? I leave it to you.

patches689:


Why then are we able to have 14 Gripen in the air at any one time?

Nigeria only has 2 airworthy F-7's

We win again.

South Africa has only 1 airworthy Gripen jet

We win again.

agaugust:


South Africa has ZERO satellites.

Nigerian satellites are operated and controlled by 100 military officers with relevant masters and doctoral degrees...


NEWS AGENCY OF NIGERIA
May 18, 2012
Abuja


NigeriaSat-2,one of four Nigerian satellites(NigeriaSat-1,NigeriaSat-X and NIGCOMSAT-1R) in orbit.

Nigeria would launch a locally manufactured satellite and in 2025 develop rocket and propulsion system. “In 2026 we have allies in electronics and software involved in space technology, and in 2028 we would now launch a Nigeria made satellite.”

Ewa enumerated the achievements of the ministry to include the launch of two low earth observation satellites – NigeriaSat-2 and NigeriaSat-X as well as a communication satellite-NigComSat-1R. He also said a rocketry was successfully launched on Wednesday in Epe, Lagos, while about 40 doctors and 60 masters degree holders had been trained in space technologies.

“100 personnel from the military who have been trained in space applications this year are now ready to be involved in surveillance satellite project.”

Read my sources and you will die of jealousy and stop refuting statements based on what you want to believe.


http://www.russianspaceweb.com/kondor-e.html

patches689:


Why then are we able to have 14 Gripen in the air at any one time?

Nigeria only has 2 airworthy F-7's

We win again.

Liar ! Big Liar !! The highest number of SAAF Gripens in the air at one time is only 8.

Why did the NAF air marshal in your own source tell Janes Defense than Nigeria has 11 operational F-7 jets?

South Africa has only 1 airworthy Gripen jet

We win again.

mzilakazi:

Who cares by the way? Did Egypt care or Nigeria when they had theirs built for them by foreign companies? I leave it to you.

well you can build a spy satellite thats gonna serve the russia more than it serves you.different strokes for different folks.

mzilakazi:



BH has never used SAMs before in any of their engagement. So, let us leave this rumours until they have been properly verified by your military.

However, since your military wanted to procure new jets, I think insurgents also needed to step up their weapons.

idi0tic boko haram sympathizer.dont worry,you will all be caught and pumped full of lead.

patches689:


Cuba entered Angola in 1975
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_intervention_in_Angola

South Africa's first incursion into Angola was the same year - 1975
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Savannah_(Angola)

Police handled the insurgency in Northern Namibia until 1974, only then did the SADF take direct command
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Border_War

And before then, Cuban soldiers fought in:


A 5 year civil war
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Revolution

The bay of pigs - involved 240 000 men
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion

Cuban soldiers had also seen combat in

- Congo Crisis
- Bolivia Insurgency
- Eritrean War
- Yom Kippur War

So, what was it you were saying?

All your post is rubbish.

Cuban Bay Of Pigs was a civil revolt, a failed coup detat see your source mentioned thousands of policemen in action

About 150 men armed came ashore to overthrow a government they hate.

The whole fight was 99% civilians vs police.

The whole Bay Of Pigs coup detat crisis ended in about 3 days of civil disobedience, is that a war ?

Liar of Gauteng

South Africa was defeated by teenage Cuban girls that have not even fought their boyfriends in school, talk less of a war experience.

[img]http://2.bp..com/-tJkj1BKs4D4/UFpiMJFgHKI/AAAAAAAAEQM/t1_2SSgYHWY/s1600/women-of-the-cuban-revolution.jpg[/img]
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agaugust:

Liar ! Big Liar !! The highest number of SAAF Gripens in the air at one time is only 8.
Why did the NAF air marshal in your own source tell Janes Defense than Nigeria has 11 operational F-7 jets?

South Africa has only 1 airworthy Gripen jet

We win again.

dont pamper him agaugust,the highest number of gripens in air at one time is 6.

EVarn:
well you can build a spy satellite thats gonna serve the russia more than it serves you.different strokes for different folks.

The delay for the satellite to be launched was largely because of the control and ownership of the spacecraft. After SA and Russia signed the deal for space technology and industry which will have to be transfered to SA, the full ownership and control of the spacecraft was handed to SA. The ground station will officially be situated in Krugersdorp in Gauteng, that project has already been completed as we speak.

mzilakazi:


Nigeria has zero military spy satellite. All Nigeria's satellites are used for disaster management, communication and internet services. People, there is nothing special about Nigeria's satellites.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24025-how-nigeria-has-been-using-its-satellites.html

NEWS AGENCY OF NIGERIA
May 18, 2012
Abuja


NigeriaSat-2,one of four Nigerian satellites(NigeriaSat-1,NigeriaSat-X and NIGCOMSAT-1R) in orbit.

Nigeria would launch a locally manufactured satellite and in 2025 develop rocket and propulsion system. “In 2026 we have allies in electronics and software involved in space technology, and in 2028 we would now launch a Nigeria made satellite.”

Ewa enumerated the achievements of the ministry to include the launch of two low earth observation satellites – NigeriaSat-2 and NigeriaSat-X as well as a communication satellite-NigComSat-1R. He also said a rocketry was successfully launched on Wednesday in Epe, Lagos, while about 40 doctors and 60 masters degree holders had been trained in space technologies.

“100 personnel from the military who have been trained in space applications this year are now ready to be involved in surveillance satellite project.”
.

THIS IS SPECIALLY FOR @MR AGAUGUST.


AN OFFICIAL LIST OF COUNTRIES AND ALL OF THEIR SATELLITES. HOWEVER, NIGERIA HAS ZERO MILITARY SPY SATELLITES. I TOLD YOU I CAN NEVER BE DEFEATED BY A NIGERIAN EDUCATED MIND



http://space.skyrocket.de/directories/sat_c.htm

mzilakazi:


Kondor-E military spy satellite belongs to SA- Confirmed.

http://russianspaceweb.com/kondor-e.html

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Fool

The project was cancelled because.....

"However, around 2007, the South-African government froze Project Flute after the nation's officials had realized that the full control over the satellite and its data would remain in Russian hands and South Africa would depend entirely on NPO Mash for the spacecraft operation. Such an arrangement would likely result in a significant delay of the access to imagery by military users in South Africa after the pictures had been snapped in orbit.



In response to the closure of the project, NPO Mashinostroenia threatened with a legal action, probably demanding a compensation for already incurred expenses. Moreover, the scandal around Kondor-E threatened to derail a planned launch of the South-African Sumbandila satellite on a Russian submarine-based missile. (The satellite was eventually launched by the Russian civilian space agency, Roskosmos). The situation also led to demands within the South African parliament to investigate the affair."

Eventually Russia took over the satellite, swallowed South Africa's money, and launched the Satellite for Russian use. Ripped off Mandela !


LOL

We see South Africans desperate to claim a satellite, because Nigeria has 3

LOL

We see South Africans desperate to claim 1 satellite, because Nigeria has 3

LOL

We see South Africans desperate to claim 1 satellite, because Nigeria has 3

LOL

We see South Africans desperate to claim 1 satellite, because Nigeria has 3




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agaugust:


NEWS AGENCY OF NIGERIA
May 18, 2012
Abuja


NigeriaSat-2,one of four Nigerian satellites(NigeriaSat-1,NigeriaSat-X and NIGCOMSAT-1R) in orbit.

Nigeria would launch a locally manufactured satellite and in 2025 develop rocket and propulsion system. “In 2026 we have allies in electronics and software involved in space technology, and in 2028 we would now launch a Nigeria made satellite.”

Ewa enumerated the achievements of the ministry to include the launch of two low earth observation satellites – NigeriaSat-2 and NigeriaSat-X as well as a communication satellite-NigComSat-1R. He also said a rocketry was successfully launched on Wednesday in Epe, Lagos, while about 40 doctors and 60 masters degree holders had been trained in space technologies.

“100 personnel from the military who have been trained in space applications this year are now ready to be involved in surveillance satellite project.”
.

Those satellites are not spy satellites. They are used for earth observation for agricultural purpose, monitoring aftermath of natural disasters, communication and internet coverage. They have nothing to do with military. I thought you were educated in the use of satellites when you raised this subject and I told you that I doubt if Nigeria has a spy satellite. Your satellites are dependant on weather.

agaugust:


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Fool

The project was cancelled because.....

"However, around 2007, the South-African government froze Project Flute after the nation's officials had realized that the full control over the satellite and its data would remain in Russian hands and South Africa would depend entirely on NPO Mash for the spacecraft operation. Such an arrangement would likely result in a significant delay of the access to imagery by military users in South Africa after the pictures had been snapped in orbit.



In response to the closure of the project, NPO Mashinostroenia threatened with a legal action, probably demanding a compensation for already incurred expenses. Moreover, the scandal around Kondor-E threatened to derail a planned launch of the South-African Sumbandila satellite on a Russian submarine-based missile. (The satellite was eventually launched by the Russian civilian space agency, Roskosmos). The situation also led to demands within the South African parliament to investigate the affair."

Eventually Russia took over the satellite, swallowed South Africa's money, and launched the Satellite for Russian use. Ripped off Mandela !


LOL

We see South Africans desperate to claim a satellite, because Nigeria has 3

LOL

We see South Africans desperate to claim 1 satellite, because Nigeria has 3

LOL

We see South Africans desperate to claim 1 satellite, because Nigeria has 3

LOL

We see South Africans desperate to claim 1 satellite, because Nigeria has 3




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Unfortunately the satellite has already been paid for in cash. Last month the secretary of defence admitted before the parliament that Kondor-E spy satellite was built for SANDF intelligence and that it was a secret project. He told the parliament that it was to be launched this year. Many believe it has already been launched.

mzilakazi:



Those satellites are not spy satellites. They are used for earth observation for agricultural purpose, monitoring aftermath of natural disasters, communication and internet coverage. They have nothing to do with military. I thought you were educated in the use of satellites when you raised this subject and I told you that I doubt if Nigeria has a spy satellite. Your satellites are dependant on weather.

Butt hurt

Fool, earth observation satellites don't care who operates them, they just do the job and reveal secrets.

Nigeria has more than what I posted, we just added a brand new state-of-the art radar satellite that NO COUNTRY has in all Africa.

South African military is 100 years behind Nigerian military is strategic and tactical surveillance and ISTAR.



BUSINESS DAY June 2014.


It will no longer be business as usual for pirates, sea robbers, and perpetrators of other criminalities on the Nigerian territorial waters as the Nigerian Maritime Administration and Safety Agency (NIMASA) has commenced operations of its satellite surveillance system.

The surveillance satellite system which commenced operations last week is aimed at helping the nation in capturing the presence of any vessel that calls Nigeria’s exclusive economic zone (EEZ), which extends about 200 nautical miles seawards from the coasts of Nigeria.

According to industry close watchers, the satellite system would go a long way in minimising criminal activities that are harmful to the economy, such as oil theft, illegal oil refineries and illegal bunkering in the nation’s maritime domain.

In a statement signed by Isichei Osamgbi, deputy director, public relations of NIMASA, and made available to BusinessDay recently, the agency said putting the satellite system to use has enabled it, in conjunction with the Nigerian Navy and the Nigerian Air Force, to successfully rescue a Ghanaian fishing vessel, known as ‘Marine 711’, from suspected hijackers.

The Ghana-registered vessel was reportedly hijacked off the coast of Ghana and sailed across Togo and Benin Republic to Nigerian waters when the Embassy of the Republic of Korea contacted the agency to help rescue the vessel, which is owned by its national. The Ghanaian Fisheries Authority and the operators of the fishing vessel joined in requesting NIMASA to bring the incident to a logical conclusion.

In a swift operation coordinated by Warredi Enisuoh, NIMASA’s director of shipping development, the agency’s newly-built satellite surveillance system, which is also made up of ‘Cloud Penetrating Radar’ capabilities, was brought to bear and the incident was resolved within six hours.

Revealing further, the NIMASA boss said the agency’s team, working with the Nigerian Navy and the Nigerian Air Force, which used sea and air patrols surveillance, respectively, quickly put up a response and reception plan which led to the hijackers abandoning their mission and fleeing.

“The new 24-hour Surveillance Centre has the capability to detect boats, ships and objects of predefined cross-section floating on water. This includes any aircraft that ditches and remains on the surface during satellite over-flight,” the agency explained.

“Its abilities further includes but not limited to setting range rings and restricted areas for which when penetrated by an intruder, the system gives an alarm thereby alerting the operator and watch-keeper,” it further said.

As regards the rescue operation, Ziakede Patrick Akpobolokemi, director general, NIMASA, expressed satisfaction with the cooperation shown by all parties to the rescue operation, noting that the agency would continue to utilise cutting-edge technology and partnership with the military to secure Nigerian waters from the hands of criminals for enhanced international trade.

@Agagust- Nigeria has zero military satellite. Stop fooling yourself with earth observation, science and research satellites. I thought this thread was for military or else I will advice you to go and post those pictures in Science and Technology thread.

agaugust:


Butt hurt

Fool, earth observation satellites don't care who operates them, they just do the job and reveal secrets.

Nigeria has more than what I posted, we just added a brand new state-of-the art radar satellite that NO COUNTRY has in all Africa.

South African military is 100 years behind Nigerian military is strategic and tactical surveillance and ISTAR.



BUSINESS DAY June 2014.


It will no longer be business as usual for pirates, sea robbers, and perpetrators of other criminalities on the Nigerian territorial waters as the Nigerian Maritime Administration and Safety Agency (NIMASA) has commenced operations of its satellite surveillance system.

The surveillance satellite system which commenced operations last week is aimed at helping the nation in capturing the presence of any vessel that calls Nigeria’s exclusive economic zone (EEZ), which extends about 200 nautical miles seawards from the coasts of Nigeria.

According to industry close watchers, the satellite system would go a long way in minimising criminal activities that are harmful to the economy, such as oil theft, illegal oil refineries and illegal bunkering in the nation’s maritime domain.

In a statement signed by Isichei Osamgbi, deputy director, public relations of NIMASA, and made available to BusinessDay recently, the agency said putting the satellite system to use has enabled it, in conjunction with the Nigerian Navy and the Nigerian Air Force, to successfully rescue a Ghanaian fishing vessel, known as ‘Marine 711’, from suspected hijackers.

The Ghana-registered vessel was reportedly hijacked off the coast of Ghana and sailed across Togo and Benin Republic to Nigerian waters when the Embassy of the Republic of Korea contacted the agency to help rescue the vessel, which is owned by its national. The Ghanaian Fisheries Authority and the operators of the fishing vessel joined in requesting NIMASA to bring the incident to a logical conclusion.

In a swift operation coordinated by Warredi Enisuoh, NIMASA’s director of shipping development, the agency’s newly-built satellite surveillance system, which is also made up of ‘Cloud Penetrating Radar’ capabilities, was brought to bear and the incident was resolved within six hours.

Revealing further, the NIMASA boss said the agency’s team, working with the Nigerian Navy and the Nigerian Air Force, which used sea and air patrols surveillance, respectively, quickly put up a response and reception plan which led to the hijackers abandoning their mission and fleeing.

“The new 24-hour Surveillance Centre has the capability to detect boats, ships and objects of predefined cross-section floating on water. This includes any aircraft that ditches and remains on the surface during satellite over-flight,” the agency explained.

“Its abilities further includes but not limited to setting range rings and restricted areas for which when penetrated by an intruder, the system gives an alarm thereby alerting the operator and watch-keeper,” it further said.

As regards the rescue operation, Ziakede Patrick Akpobolokemi, director general, NIMASA, expressed satisfaction with the cooperation shown by all parties to the rescue operation, noting that the agency would continue to utilise cutting-edge technology and partnership with the military to secure Nigerian waters from the hands of criminals for enhanced international trade.

@Agaugust it doesn't matter, your satellites are not all weather, day and night capable spy satellites. They are only good to be used as research tools by both military and civilians. I will never be deceived by you when it comes to technology. I am in possession of an N6 diploma in Mechanical engineering and am currently furthering my engineering studies with unisa.

mzilakazi:


Unfortunately the satellite has already been paid for in cash. Last month the secretary of defence admitted before the parliament that Kondor-E spy satellite was built for SANDF intelligence and that it was a secret project. He told the parliament that it was to be launched this year. Many believe it has already been launched.

Fake story with no proof. No source confirms the sale. You cannot buy satellites in secret and the whole world does not know.

The only existing story is that the sale was cancelled with good reason stated.

Russia won't sell a spy satellite secretly to South Africa without reporting the sale to UN as required by international law.

Okay, Nigeria has 100 secret nuclear missiles purchased from Russia in 2014. How about that?

Anyway, Russia has robbed South Africa of millions of dollars, President Putin is using the satellite he robbed you of, to fight Ukraine in Crimea

South Africa is 100 years behind Nigeria....Butt Hurt
.

mzilakazi:


@Agaugust it doesn't matter, your satellites are not all weather, day and night capable spy satellites. They are only good to be used as research tools by both military and civilians. I will never be deceived by you when it comes to technology. I am in possession of an N6 diploma in Mechanical engineering and am currently furthering my engineering studies with unisa.

Fool, radar satellite, radar is all weather and night-day. That's why we added this new radar satellite

Fool, Butt Hurt, Nigeria ia more advanced than South Africa .


.

agaugust:


Fake story with no proof. No source confirms the sale. You cannot buy satellites in secret and the whole world does not know.

The only existing story is that the sale was cancelled with good reason stated.

Russia won't sell a spy satellite secretly to South Africa without reporting the sale to UN as required by international law.

Okay, Nigeria has 100 secret nuclear missiles purchased from Russia in 2014. How about that?

Anyway, Russia has robbed South Africa of millions of dollars, President Putin is using the satellite he robbed you of, to fight Ukraine in Crimea

South Africa is 100 years behind Nigeria....Butt Hurt
.

On October 22, 2014, during a meeting of a
Portfolio Committee on Defense and Military
Veterans, the South African Defense Secretary
Sam Gulube confirmed that a military satellite
was "on track" for launch, essentially revealing
the South-African connection to the Kondor-E
project.


Found here:



http://www.russianspaceweb.com/kondor-e.html

agaugust:


Fool, radar satellite, radar is all weather and night-day. That's why we added this new radar satellite

Fool, Butt Hurt, Nigeria ia more advanced than South Africa .


.

I will bite my elbow should Nigeria ever find itself more advanced than SA in development and technology. Nigeria does not have a radar satellite nor even to speak of military satellite.