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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:32am On Nov 29, 2014
Patchesagain:


No,

The question is not where it is a duck

But WHERE the duck is

A small picture of a T-72 (of unknown model type) on a transport on a road in a topography and biome that could literally be on any of the worlds continents

The model is known.
The area is known
The soldier is known
Everything about it is known.

The only thing not known is if you have a functional brain.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 9:33am On Nov 29, 2014
Henry120:


It was posted by a Nigerian soldier, after people requested for it.

It is the only T-72B in Africa

The soldier is clearly a nigerian officer with a head warmer.


First, it is not clearly a T-72B

Second, the source is unknown as it the location the picture was taken.

Pic related, Leopard 2 posted by a South African soldier after people requested it

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 9:35am On Nov 29, 2014
patches689:

hahahahahahahahahahah
Pic related, photo 1 "Africa's best"
Pic 2, South Africa, judge for yourself
our soldiers are well trained,we've got the best infantry,the above picture does not mean anything,i can post pictures of worse SANDF soldiers.whats wrong with the soldier in pic 1?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 9:35am On Nov 29, 2014
Henry120:


The model is known.
The area is known
The soldier is known
Everything about it is known.

The only thing not known is if you have a functional brain.

Nope, nothing is known.

The presence of ERA does not mean it is a T-72B

The area is claimed, but unproven and thus unknown

Nothing is known because nothing is proven
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 9:36am On Nov 29, 2014
EVarn:
our soldiers are well trained,we've got the best infantry,the above picture does not mean anything,i can post pictures of worse SANDF soldiers.whats wrong with the soldier in pic 1?

Prove they are the best

Whats wrong with the soldier in picture 1? Cant you read the annotations?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:40am On Nov 29, 2014
patches689:


So you then confirm that SANDF has experience as we have fought not only in more wars than you, but bigger and more advanced ones.

And you yourself admit that it is not individual experience, but institutional experience that is important.

If a soldier does not know how to do his job (because he was not properly trained) why would he suddenly learn his job and be better at his job because he was deployed?

Training is more important than combat, this is a fact that has been known since Roman times.

And the US military won in Veitnam, ya dingus.

Nope, the SANDF does not have more experience than the Nigerian army. Neither have you fought in more wars or carried out more operations than the Nigerian Army.

What accounts for institutional experience, if not individual experience....... dummy.

At no point did I say training isn't important, however, Combat experience is the best training an Infantry man can get. This isn't even up for a debate.

The U.S army lost in Vietnam. This is a fact.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:44am On Nov 29, 2014
patches689:


Nope, nothing is known.

The presence of ERA does not mean it is a T-72B

The area is claimed, but unproven and thus unknown

Nothing is known because nothing is proven

This is a T-72B

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 9:44am On Nov 29, 2014
Henry120:


Nope, the SANDF does not have more experience than the Nigerian army. Neither have you fought in more wars or carried out more operations than the Nigerian Army.

What accounts for institutional experience, if not individual experience....... dummy.

At no point did I say training isn't important, however, Combat experience is the best training an Infantry man can get. This isn't even up for a debate.

The U.S army lost in Vietnam. This is a fact.

First, SANDF fought in large scale operations in WW1 and WW2, flew against advanced fighters in Korea and took part in one of the biggest and most advanced wars in Africa (for 25years) in Angola.

Nigeria has not got a single war like this under its belt.

Institutional experience is experience that is passed on from generation to generation through training

The US Military utterly and completely defeated the NVA and Veit-Cong in South Veitnam. This is a fact.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:45am On Nov 29, 2014
patches689:


First, SANDF fought in large scale operations in WW1 and WW2, flew against advanced fighters in Korea and took part in one of the biggest and most advanced wars in Africa (for 25years) in Angola.

Nigeria has not got a single war like this under its belt.

Institutional experience is experience that is passed on from generation to generation through training

The US Military utterly and completely defeated the NVA and Veit-Cong in South Veitnam. This is a fact.

The SANDF came into existence in 1994. The white minority Apartheid army is not the South-African national army.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 9:45am On Nov 29, 2014
Henry120:


This is a T-72B

Most of the things that make a T-72B a T-72B are INSIDE the tank not OUTSIDE the tank.

You need to brush up on your Russian tanks

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 9:46am On Nov 29, 2014
Henry120:


The SANDF came into existence in 1994.

SANDF is the re-named SADF

SADF is the re-named Union Defence Force

Name changes dont mean anything
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 9:47am On Nov 29, 2014
SANDF soldiers in CAR.watch the way they handle their gun{@mzilakazi,andrewza},they dont even look prepared and alert.LMAO.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:48am On Nov 29, 2014
patches689:


Most of the things that make a T-72B a T-72B are INSIDE the tank not OUTSIDE the tank.

You need to brush up on your Russian tanks

I've posted an image of a T-72B. That is the same T-72 seen with Nigerian troops.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:48am On Nov 29, 2014
EVarn:
we have t80 tanks.that was my point.



Yet, without proof.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:49am On Nov 29, 2014
patches689:


SANDF is the re-named SADF

SADF is the re-named Union Defence Force

Name changes dont mean anything

You can only succeed in lying to yourself.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 9:49am On Nov 29, 2014
EVarn:
SANDF soldiers in CAR.watch the way they handle their gun{@mzilakazi,andrewza},they dont even look prepared and alert.LMAO.

Those men arent in the CAR, they are wearing UN colors.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 9:49am On Nov 29, 2014
Henry120:


I've posted an image of a T-72B. That is the same T-72 seen with Nigerian troops.

Most of the things that make a T-72B a T-72B are INSIDE the tank not OUTSIDE the tank.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 9:50am On Nov 29, 2014
Henry120:


You can only succeed in lying to yourself.

You are succeeding at being a buffoon
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:52am On Nov 29, 2014
patches689:


Most of the things that make a T-72B a T-72B are INSIDE the tank not OUTSIDE the tank.

Apparently most, from my photo, not all.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 9:54am On Nov 29, 2014
Henry120:


Apparently most, from my photo, not all.

Only ERA

And ERA does not define it to be a T-72B

Are you even to tell ERA apart from KONTAKT?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:55am On Nov 29, 2014
EVarn:
that does not change the fact that it is {was} a south west township slum.the picture isnt even an old one.


That pic is old, it was merely used by researchers to evaluate the effectiveness of SAfricas RDP programme which helped to eradicate slums in a short time. A policy which must be adopted by the likes of Nigeria.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 9:55am On Nov 29, 2014
patches689:


Prove they are the best

Whats wrong with the soldier in picture 1? Cant you read the annotations?
Its a known fact throughout the world,that we've got the best infantry,our soldiers get paid by the UN to storm heavy targets that forces outside africa find hard to attack.all the SANDF is drafted to do is to threaten child-soldiers with guns.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 9:57am On Nov 29, 2014
EVarn:
Its a known fact throughout the world,that we've got the best infantry,our soldiers get paid by the UN to storm heavy targets that forces outside africa find hard to attack.all the SANDF is drafted to do is to threaten child-soldiers with guns.

what is this drivel? who says that?

The UN found that your soldiers were only capable of manning checkpoints - not even skilled enough to do patrols
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 9:57am On Nov 29, 2014
mzilakazi:

Yet, without proof.
what other proof do you seek?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 9:59am On Nov 29, 2014
patches689:


what is this drivel? who says that?

The UN found that your soldiers were only capable of manning checkpoints - not even skilled enough to do patrols
manning checkpoints?,give proof please.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:01am On Nov 29, 2014
EVarn:
manning checkpoints?,give proof please.

The "shocking" state of the Nigerian army has delayed plans for a military intervention in Mali, amid reports that it lacks the capability to fight on the frontline.

A senior source in Mali told the Guardian that a lack of training and discipline among Nigerian troops – who are being heavily relied on by regional bloc Ecowas to oust Islamists in control of northern Mali – is becoming increasingly apparent.

"The Nigerian army is in a shocking state," said the source, who has seen recent assessments of Ecowas's military capability. "In reality there is no way they are capable of forward operations in Mali – their role is more likely to be limited to manning checkpoints and loading trucks."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/nov/05/nigerian-army-mali-mission-delayed
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 10:02am On Nov 29, 2014
patches689:


Those men arent in the CAR, they are wearing UN colors.
they're SANDF soldiers,and look at there stance,see the way they slouch,see the way the hold their rifles,an ambush would finish them before they can react.no wonder the SANDF is prone to ambushes.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:04am On Nov 29, 2014
EVarn:
what other proof do you seek?


Source or picture.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 10:04am On Nov 29, 2014
mzilakazi:



That pic is old, it was merely used by researchers to evaluate the effectiveness of SAfricas RDP programme which helped to eradicate slums in a short time. A policy which must be adopted by the likes of Nigeria.
you've still got slums in SA,i personally know that,trust me,i know what i'm talking about.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:06am On Nov 29, 2014
EVarn:
they're SANDF soldiers,and look at there stance,see the way they slouch,see the way the hold their rifles,an ambush would finish them before they can react.no wonder the SANDF is prone to ambushes.

Or maybe they are in a low risk environment thus negating the need for alertness.

What context is the picture taken in? You didnt even know what country they were in, and you want to tell us about the context?

This is a waste of my time
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 10:06am On Nov 29, 2014
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:06am On Nov 29, 2014
EVarn:
you've still got slums in SA,i personally know that,trust me,i know what i'm talking about.
And nigeria has the biggest slums in Africa

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