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Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by leofab(f): 6:18pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
slightlyMad:fool |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by Litmus: 6:18pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
Pakistan's first First Indigenous car. posted:13th June 2006, 21:15 The following is an extract from a Pakistan forum: “We are getting the technology from China and we will soon start building the engines also,” Adam’s Chief Executive Officer Feroz Khan said. “It will be fully indigenous in a couple of years.” Why is it that, Pakistan, a superposed Nuclear nation requires the assistance of Chinese technology to build a car? Is it conceivable that India was given assistance by America to build her Nuclear capability as a counter to China and then same America did the same for Pakistan to counter India? Recall that the very scientist that detonated Americas first nuclear bomb were the once that gave Russia the technology to build her nuclear bombs. These American scientists decided that the world would be safer if Russia acquired Nuclear capability so Russia could be a counter balance to America's nuclear might. |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by leofab(f): 6:18pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
omonuan:; slowpoke |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by xwolverine: 6:21pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
realnas: RE the Jaguar debacle
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Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by Cannonleo(m): 6:23pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
BlackBaron:Combat radius: 1,352 km (840 mi) Ferry range: 3,482 km (1,880 NM) without drop tanks |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by BlackBaron: 6:27pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
Cannonleo: That is Wikipedia info sir. |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by Cannonleo(m): 6:31pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
BlackBaron:defence web evaluated it plus check other aircraft it is stated if their range is increased by additional drop tabks..plus note that it is imperative that a drop tank on station 4 under the fuselage must be attached in every combat flight unless ARM(anti runway missions) |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by xwolverine: 6:34pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
SirShymex: To add, the old F7's were crashing like chickens until the pakistani airforce sent some instructors to rescue our pilots, I think the JF-17 is a good step in the right direction, we cannot risk having a repeat of the Sepecat Jaguar debacle with western Jets. I would have recommended the Rafale's and /or Typhoon Jets, but thats a huge risk at this time, with France supporting our enemies (cameroon, chad and Niger), they wouldn't think twice before grounding the Rafales if we ever have a confrontation with their minions. For me, looking east was always the option because these westerner (UK and US) are two faced and dangerous. With the US predicting that Nigeria would disintegrate by 2015, the right time to arm up is now, and upgrading our Air force should be our focus, because we already have the largest army is sub-saharan africa. |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by Nobody: 6:36pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
Missy89: Lmao @ mastering them. Why didn't the Chinese master them if it were that easy? Er, they had to use technology from Russia. Mastering something like isn't that easy, especially for a country that is technologically backwards and in the doldrums. You have to start from the basics - and if you can get a deal that can jump start you into the middle, why not grab it with an open arm? Anyway I'm just posting based on what the initial deal was, and I think the number of aircraft is inconsequential if you can get a sweet deal like that. The Chinese also just signed a few deals including technology transfer with Russia. 5th and 6th gen aircrafts are the new birds for top-tier countries, and I don't think there is anything that special about the radar/avionics of the J-17 that the Chinese won't want to disclose to naija, since the country isn't a threat to China. Heck, the project was a joint venture with Pakistan - so what is there to hide? J-17 isn't even the flagship fighter jet of the Chinese Air Force. Also, Algeria and Egypt can maintain their huge fleet of aircraft, what is stopping Nigeria from doing the same? |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by BlackBaron: 6:38pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
Cannonleo:I'm asking because relative to other fighter jets in its wake, It seems to possess 'magical range'. The RD 33 engine is not exactly efficient and on the Mig 29 has lesser range, so how does a single engined fighter jet exceed that of his parent engine? |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by Nobody: 6:41pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
xwolverine: European fighter jets are too expensive, with too many strings attached, for a country like Nigeria. Rather than waste money on either Typhoons or Rafales, they should look towards Russia. Both fighter jets are bad ar.ses, especially the Rafales, but too expensive. You can get better Sukhois or MiGs for less. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by Missy89(f): 6:51pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
SirShymex: What are we going to do with that many aircrafts? Algeria is well involved in the Arab and middle east politics, hence a strong conventional force. There is nothing wrong in having the same but you look at the strength of your adversaries. we basically have none. a HUGE fleet is a waste in my opinion. i would rather spend more on our land conventional force than waste money on over 50 4th gen aircrafts that requires a lot of money to maintain. If you say Nigeria is not a threat to China, what makes you think we wont share the information with the adversaries of china if we have it? 4th gen technology is still very important. only One country has a 5th gen aircraft deployed (F22). others are still in development. What other countries have at best are 4++ gen fighter jets |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by EzeeYFB(m): 6:53pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
The resurrection of nigerian airways,well soon it will be privatised |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by DaBullIT(m): 6:56pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
xwolverine: [size=25pt]Hmmmm. You was making sense go until you saided that terrorist cantnt fly fighter jet Seriously terrorists and mercenaries are human beings , its easy for a terror organization to pay an ex fighter pilot / ex pilot who is loyal to the cause , trust me , there are jobless pilots in Iraq ,Afghanistan , Libya and co , Post an ad on classified sites today , youll be surprised how many responses youll get .. Try it just to prove me wrong , the reason why they haven't been able to use that method against developed countries in the world is because they (advanced countries) can see and smell you from thousands of miles away ! And they will scramble fighter jets to force you to land or blow you off ! The questions we should ask is : Does Nigeria have the technical / scientific capability to operate , control and successfully carry out a mission ,in terms of radar , communications ? Training a pilot is not the problem. Can Nigeria maintain the said jet ? Abi we will have to ship to Pakistan to repair ? Just like we ship crude oil to other countries to refine Finally will they buy a brand new jet or refurbished / repainted jets like most of airlines operating in Nigeria ? [/size] |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by Nobody: 7:09pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
Missy89: Isn't naij involved in Sub Saharan African politics, as the paper giant of Africa? If minnows like Angola, Kenya, And Uganda are increasing their fleet of modern fighter jets, what is stopping Nigeria? Heck, even Ethiopia has a huge fleet. How about national security for a country like naija with huge population, trying to have a say in international politics? Fifty isn't even that many. And if they can stop the looting, naij is definitely not a poor country, even if oil prices were to fall below $50 per litre. Still important, but by 2016, most countries should have deployed their 5th and 6th gen fighter jets. Heck, the Chinese just did an exhibition of the export version of theirs. And Russia should deploy its own version soon. So the radar thing would be inconsequential since most advanced countries are going to move towards stealth technology. What adversary, with a fighter jet that is a joint venture and not the flagship of the Chinese Air Force? It at all they had a problem with that, they wouldn't have built it with a Pakistan that has an utterly corrupt military - and is somewhat under US influence. |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by Horus(m): 7:55pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
tmanuelle: Are you saying that Muslims in the Egyptian Air Force are unable to fly a fighter jet? Who is flying all the sophisticated fighter jets in the Royal Saudi Air Force?, Aliens or Arab Muslims? |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by Missy89(f): 7:55pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
SirShymex: The Jet is going to be the Flagship of the Pakistani Airforce. They are ordering over 100 of it. I would think that is why China is willing to give them the avionics. and they are currently developing a third variant. China isn't even deploying any of it . thou they own the tech. That is why i said everything has to do with numbers. Only Pakistan air-force is deploying the plane that shows you how important the tech would be for them. and countries like Nigeria will only get the export version and an older variant. If you are suggesting a huge fleet for defense, then we should spend more on interceptors since we have no offensive engagement anyway. faster birds, long range radars that will keep potential enemies at bay. Still think the ground conventional force needs more of the money thou |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by Bigcake: 8:01pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
Horus:They weren't terrorist, it was an insider's job from the American government to invade Afganistan. More or less of a blood sacrifice. Osama wasn't the chief planner, at the approprate time the real truth will be told by the Americans for the Americans. |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by Horus(m): 8:05pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
tdayof: That was not my point. My point was on the capability of a terrorist organisation to fly planes?. All the 9/11 terrorists were receiving flight training at schools in the United States and abroad Source: http://www.wanttoknow.info/911/9-11_summary_articles/010923post_terrorist_flight_training |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by Nobody: 8:07pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
I pray that one day, DICON would start producing fighter jets. |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by Cannonleo(m): 8:15pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
BlackBaron: Acvording to development papers I read on the design and dev of the thunder.the intakes are wider 2 increase temp cooling,fuel efficiency was also brought on boarx.the RD 33 was tweeked to overcome its deficiencies on the mig |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by Horus(m): 8:22pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
Vikkie14: I said plane not jet. And yes I know that 9/11 is an inside job but because our "brothers" are not yet ready to this fact I go with the flow to show them bit by bit the inconsistency of the official US Government "version". 9/11 was also an Illuminati blood sacrifice 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by Nobody: 8:37pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
Missy89: If China isn't deploying any of it, so why do you think they would care about the technology transfer? Nigeria isn't a threat to Pakistan, and I think the Pakis will benefit more from whatever deal they sign with Nigeria. It isn't only Pakistan, Burma and a few other countries are also interested in the bird. And regardless of the variant - technology transfer would be a big steal for naija. Also, for proper defense, you need a big fleet. Interceptors and long range radars alone won't cut it. Why do you think China has a massive fleet, despite operating under the auspices of a strictly defense doctrine? We also need a broad air defense system. Nigeria is too big to be as messed up as it currently is. External aggression is always lurking and you have to be ready at all times. Gaddafi learnt the hard way, hence Algeria is always ready to defend itself. |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by felifeli: 8:53pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
GenBuhari:Show me your father's web preference. I guess he doesn't exist either. Buffoon |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by Babprosper20(m): 9:17pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
CHINA?? hope it's engine will be sound and not like china phones lol |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by Nobody: 9:23pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
If my father was a high profile doctor, then he would have web presence felifeli: |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by felifeli: 9:32pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
GenBuhari: Whoever gave you the idea that Dr Adadevoh was a "high profile" superstar doctor must have also sold you the wrong drugs. The woman was only a hard-working professional doctor doing her job. If you want to verify that she existed why don't you go ask at the hospital and cross check at College of Medicine Idi Araba where she studied and got qualified ? But no you prefer to smoke crack and write any nonsense that comes into your head. You get job so ? |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by billyG(m): 9:48pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
Hav u pple tut of d possibilty of a trained fanatical islamic figher jet pilots defecting frm iraq,iran,syrian,yemeni,pakitani ,tunisian,libyan,algeria or evn s.arabian airforce with stolen jets 2 join ISIS. although allah 4bid it. |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by billyG(m): 9:55pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
xwolverine:Hav u pple tut of d possibilty of a trained fanatical islamic figher jet pilots defecting frm iraq,iran,syrian,yemeni,pakitani,naijarian,tunisian,libyan,algeria or evn s.arabian airforce with stolen jets 2 join ISIS or BOKOHARAM. although allah 4bid it. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by tdayof(m): 10:03pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
Horus:yea you are right they can fly planes! Let me say perfectly with the 9/11video |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by tdayof(m): 10:04pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
DaBullIT:bros u spoil talk with your font oo |
Re: Nigeria Finalises Deal For 1 To 2 Squadrons Of JF-17 Fighter Jets by DaBullIT(m): 10:45pm On Dec 03, 2014 |
tdayof: [size=2pt]Na Swag[/size] |
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