the same delusion op is suffering from, is what many black Americans are suffering from. can you imagine, they believe they are the true Hebrews taking from Israel to captivity, those idiots skipped History classes. west African descent thinking they're linked to a culture hundreds of miles away on another continent it is laughable and equally sad.

tevinsolt:
the same delusion op is suffering from, is what many black Americans are suffering from. can imagine, they believe they are the true Hebrews taking from Israel to captivity, those idiots skipped History classes. west African descent thinking they're linked to a culture hundreds of miles away on another continent it is laughable and equally sad.

I'm not commenting on the veracity of what you wrote but the allusion that "history classes" correctly convey historical facts. In your own lifetime, haven’t you seen history being distorted? What makes you think that those in power did not re-write the history in the textbooks used to teach us?

Wallie:


I'm not commenting on the veracity of what you wrote but the allusion that "history classes" correctly convey historical facts. In your own lifetime, haven’t you seen history being distorted? What makes you think that those in power did not re-write the history in the textbooks used to teach us?

Lol. That's what a lot of these naive folks don't know, and how everything black in history has been whitewashed. Heck, even the original Statue of Liberty was the sculpture of a black woman, that represented freedom - a gift given to America by the French. Can you see how they changed that to a white woman?

Topic:

Everyone with a knowledge of history knows that if Jesus ever walked this planet in flesh...there's absolutely no way he would've been white based on historical timeline and the race of people who occupied North Africa and Middle East (middle East used to be part of Africa - the Brits separated the two less than 500 years ago).

Also, there's no race called, "Arab" - Arab is an ethnicity and Arabs are an admixture of black and white people, over a period of time. And they never existed as a group 2000 years ago.

Anyway, enjoy ya debate - history has been white-washed and most of the historical figures a lot of folks see as "white" were not white.

ddefoe:
Black or white, it doesn't matter to me.all I know is that he is my saviour! Come to think of it, Jesus is jewish and jews are not black, they re more caucusian than negroid and so I don't see the need trying hard to make him look black.its not important

You claim he's your savior huh? Guess you don't read the bible often...

And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace....Rev 1:15

And what happens when brass was burned? It turns black.

SirShymexx:


Lol. That's what a lot of these naive folks don't know, and how everything black in history has been whitewashed. Heck, even the original Statue of Liberty was the sculpture of a black woman, that represented freedom - a gift given to America by the French. Can you see how they changed that to a white woman?

Topic:

Everyone with a knowledge of history knows that if Jesus ever walked this planet in flesh...there's absolutely no way he would've been white based on historical timeline and the race of people who occupied North Africa and Middle East (middle East used to be part of Africa - the Brits separated the two less than 500 years ago).

Also, there's no race called, "Arab" - Arab is an ethnicity and Arabs are an admixture of black and white people, over a period of time. And they never existed as a group 2000 years ago.

Anyway, enjoy ya debate - history has been white-washed and most of the historical figure a lot of folks see as "white" were not white.

Spot on!

This is the implication of reading the bible like a novel(without the fellowship of the spirit),anthropologist,I have nothing to say to you

OrlandoOwoh:
CC: PAGAN9JA.

Let them dwell in fantasy and bullshyt.
If it pleases them.

I dont owe them any explanation.

Rennee:

Oh Really?

yup yup

Crappy articles like this make black people look insecure. Always arguing about whether Jews were black or ancient Egyptians were black and formulating conspiracies about how everyone is trying to claim their history.

Wallie:


My guy, like I said, I believe in taking responsibility for one's actions but it is not that simple. I personally detest people making excuses for their failures and not taking responsibility for them. I believe one should keep trying in spite of those standing in one's way. Nobody said life was fair.

We have nobody to blame than ourselves; however, that does not mean that others are not enablers of our shortsightedness.

Here's how -

1. Oil gets stolen from Niger Delta by the shipload. Who buys them?

2. A popular politician becomes wise and wants to kick against colonialism. He ends up dead or his puppet opposition gets funded miraculously.

3. Why are all the French colonies in Africa, 14 countries, still using a currency dictated by France? CFA's value is pegged to the Euro, which is controlled by the European Central Bank.

4. African politicians steal money and invest where?

5. Nigerian politicians steal money and hide it in which banks?

6. Why is China re-colonizing Africa by buying and tying up all our natural resources? What happens when we need access to the resources or realize that the cheap money they gave us has been mismanaged?

7. Who is going to deal with the long term effect of the oil spill in the Niger Delta? Assuming the Nigerian govt does not know any better, can the same be said for the foreign companies that operate in Nigeria? Can they try the same thing in non-third world countries?

Like I said, ultimately, the responsibility is ours and caused by our greed and shortsightedness but there are others that are complicit. I just wish we can be strategic for once and see past our nose!

I agree the western countries and other developed nations aid and abet our looters but that's just an easy escuse for us to fall back upon. We have to look at our selves and "man-up" and make this change from within. China did not become a super power by asking the westerners to "back off". They developed their system from within. They still have issues of corruption but have made great strides to try and mitigate it. Same thing with India, 30 years ago they were an impoverished nation and at the same level of Pakistan. Today they are in a much better economic state, superseding Pakistan (which equals Nigeria in level of corruption). India does have a lot to do to further fight corruption, improve infrastructure etc but have developed impressively otherwise.
That's why we have to take control of our own destiny. We have the potential, with the resources we have and the skilled man power we should be way more highly developed economically and politically.

sambos994:


Spot on!

It's just basically like what's happening now. I'm sure in the next 50-100 years, most folks won't even know that Rock and Jazz music are black music. When future generations look at Rock music, they'll see a genre dominated by white people, with Elvis as the face of it. Ditto Jazz music, with Kenny Rogers as the face. That's a classic example of how the whole sequence happens.


Even let's leave religion and Jesus for now. I read an article time ago about all the Scientists we all adore from Einstein, to Archimedes, to Faraday, etc., you'd be shocked that a lot of these folks plagiarised what the moors did. Then you look at legendary Greeks like Hippocrates,who's considered the father of medicine...but what they won't tell us is that: he stole everything from Imhotep. Ditto Aristotle. Even Pythagoras stole his theorem from the Egyptians cos that was the theorem they used in building those pyramids - way before Pythagoras' ancestors were born.

History is just messed up, and everything has been white-washed.

Legit:
This man called jesus is the biggest fraud on earth, and billion fall for it, bcus they are afraid some buggy man will get them on the jufgment day. How can the programmer purnish you when his product misbehave, can he just reprogram it. The black folks are more religious that their missionaries with all the lies. That is why is called "white lies" We are just follow follow.

The existence of Jesus has never been in doubt, his divinity is what has been questioned.

So when you say he's a fraud, are you trying to imply that Jesus of Nazareth never existed at all ?.

segxi1960:


The existence of Jesus has never been in doubt, his divinity is what has been questioned.

So when you say he's a fraud, are you trying to imply that Jesus of Nazareth never existed at all ?.

He is a fraud because he was beaten to stupor and nailed to a cross for committing fraud. Heck..! He was crucified with criminals..

SirShymexx:


It's just basically like what's happening now. I'm sure in the next 50-100 years, most folks won't even know that Rock and Jazz music are black music. When future generations look at Rock music, they'll see a genre dominated by white people, with Elvis as the face of it. Ditto Jazz music, with Kenny Rogers as the face. That's a classic example of how the whole sequence happens.


Even let's leave religion and Jesus for now. I read an article time ago about all the Scientists we all adore from Einstein, to Archimedes, to Faraday, etc., you'd be shocked that a lot of these folks plagiarised what the moors did. Then you look at legendary Greeks like Hippocrates,who's considered the father of medicine...but what they won't tell us is that: he stole everything from Imhotep. Ditto Aristotle. Even Pythagoras stole his theorem from the Egyptians cos that was the theorem they used in building those pyramids - way before Pythagoras' ancestors were born.

History is just messed up, and everything has been white-washed.

It really is. The worst thing about it is our own people are buying into it. While "history classes" preach to student that the likes of Galileo were pioneers of astronomy, they completely ignore the fact that the people of the Mali Empire were studying astronomy 300 years before Galileo's time. It's really quite sickening.

sambos994:


It really is. The worst thing about it is our own people are buying into it. While "history classes" preach to student that the likes of Galileo were pioneers of astronomy, they completely ignore the fact that the people of the Mali Empire were studying astronomy 300 years before Galileo's time. It's really quite sickening.

Lol. The same Astronomy that's well documented in the hieroglyphics text on the pyramids? The same one the Dogons of Mali have more knowledge about, even without modern equipment? Heck, even the Horus myth/folklore was based on astronomy...but hey, "Galileo" taught us Astronomy - laughable. Perhaps, if those fvckers never destroyed all the libraries in Timbuktu...we'll still be able to lay claims to it - sad.

How about Christopher Columbus? - oh, they won't tell us that the atlas he used in traveling to the Americas was a Moorish one, by the black moors.

Anyway, that's history for you - white-washed one written by the victors.

Have you seen the CBS 1968 black history (lost, stolen, or strayed) special, by Bill Cosby? That's an enlightening documentary as well.

uboma:
@ op, are you a racist?

Is the skin colour of Jesus Christ any important? If it really was, I am sure it would have been clearly penned down in the Bible.

I read somewhere that not all the activities of Jesus Christ was penned in the Bible. Imagine writing down everything Jesus Christ did during his brief stay on earth. Even a duplex would not contain all the write-ups. So whatever is recorded in the Bible are things that are NECESSARY for salvation.

So @op, invest more of your energies and time into carrying out the commands in the Bible as they are written and stop engaging in frivolous and mundane things like the skin colour of Jesus Christ.

Bro... Needless I say more? I think the devil has really got a lot of people busy this endtime(including me) with frivolities and weightless issues that add little or nothing to our godliness and spirituality! I really feel pained and perplexed! Brown, black or white Jesus... What are we (including the op) doing with Him! As the efficacy of His death been so implemented in our lives? I weep for this generation... We are truly the ones whom the end of the world has come unpon... Hence, the adversary has preoccupied us with many inane thoughts!
We need prayers... Jesus has not sent us to debate his true skin.... But to preach the truth He stands for(Gospel and Evangelism)! Would this theory of black Jesus win a soul? Would he convert a sinner... Ha... The devil is a liar! He has failed in my life(and yours) and every other person that is ready to lift the banner of the gospel in this end time(AMEN)!
Souls are dying.... Here we are debating color!
GOD HAVE MERCY!!!
"I must work the works of him that sent me, while it
is day: the night cometh, when no man can work."
John 9:4

"But shun profane [and] vain babblings: for they will
increase unto more ungodliness."
2Timothy 2:16

Either black or white, he came to save d whole world. Sinners are his target

segxi1960:


The existence of Jesus has never been in doubt, his divinity is what has been questioned.

So when you say he's a fraud, are you trying to imply that Jesus of Nazareth never existed at all ?.

i tried to check my mail but i could not find it my email is lionfrmzion@aol.com

SirShymexx:


It's just basically like what's happening now. I'm sure in the next 50-100 years, most folks won't even know that Rock and Jazz music are black music. When future generations look at Rock music, they'll see a genre dominated by white people, with Elvis as the face of it. Ditto Jazz music, with Kenny Rogers as the face. That's a classic example of how the whole sequence happens.


Even let's leave religion and Jesus for now. I read an article time ago about all the Scientists we all adore from Einstein, to Archimedes, to Faraday, etc., you'd be shocked that a lot of these folks plagiarised what the moors did. Then you look at legendary Greeks like Hippocrates,who's considered the father of medicine...but what they won't tell us is that: he stole everything from Imhotep. Ditto Aristotle. Even Pythagoras stole his theorem from the Egyptians cos that was the theorem they used in building those pyramids - way before Pythagoras' ancestors were born.

History is just messed up, and everything has been white-washed.

For the time being, it may be permissible for Caucasians to teach occupational knowledge, jobs, and trades plus mathematics, works and subjects that no one can be deceived with by others, but not subjects like history, religion, origins, etc., because Caucasians will not and sometimes cannot give others the facts about these subjects. Caucasians know and teach certain, occupational jobs and trades according to present day standards, and mathematics in universal science which speaks for itself, but what can Caucasians teach anyone about morals and best way of life, when they are those who destroyed real knowledge, morals, and best way of life by suppressing and murdering Darker Peoples, lying to divide others and create ignorance, and stealing other peoples’ lands, culture, and natural resources, that is other peoples’ heritages. Caucasians never did and never will give others true spiritual and universal knowledge, because much of it they do not know themselves, and what they do know they keep it among themselves, so that they may continue to rule the ignorant and impoverished.

SirShymexx:


Lol. The same Astronomy that's well documented in the hieroglyphics text on the pyramids? The same one the Dogons of Mali have more knowledge about, even without modern equipment? Heck, even the Horus myth/folklore was based on astronomy...but hey, "Galileo" taught us Astronomy - laughable. Perhaps, if those fvckers never destroyed all the libraries in Timbuktu...we'll still be able to lay claims to it - sad.

How about Christopher Columbus? - oh, they won't tell us that the atlas he used in traveling to the Americas was a Moorish one, by the black moors.

Anyway, that's history for you - white-washed one written by the victors.

Have you seen the CBS 1968 black history (lost, stolen, or strayed) special, by Bill Cosby? That's an enlightening documentary as well.

Speaking of Christopher Colombus...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/aug/07/books.spain

And people decide to dedicate a whole day to this man.

sambos994:


It really is. The worst thing about it is our own people are buying into it. While "history classes" preach to student that the likes of Galileo were pioneers of astronomy, they completely ignore the fact that the people of the Mali Empire were studying astronomy 300 years before Galileo's time. It's really quite sickening.

300 years is small sef. The whole of human history is one big memory gap. We have recorded history that go back maybe 5000 years but prior to that, it's anyone's guess. This is astonishing in itself considering that humans beings have been walking around with this exact body for at least 100K years.

Horus:


For the time being, it may be permissible for Caucasians to teach occupational knowledge, jobs, and trades plus mathematics, works and subjects that no one can be deceived with by others, but not subjects like history, religion, origins, etc., because Caucasians will not and sometimes cannot give others the facts about these subjects. Caucasians know and teach certain, occupational jobs and trades according to present day standards, and mathematics in universal science which speaks for itself, but what can Caucasians teach anyone about morals and best way of life, when they are those who destroyed real knowledge, morals, and best way of life by suppressing and murdering Darker Peoples, lying to divide others and create ignorance, and stealing other peoples’ lands, culture, and natural resources, that is other peoples’ heritages. Caucasians never did and never will give others true spiritual and universal knowledge, because much of it they do not know themselves, and what they do know they keep it among themselves, so that they may continue to rule the ignorant and impoverished.

I agree with you. We also live in their consciousness - western civilisation. The current civilisation is theirs, and they built it after the European renaissance - and we all just have to live within the context of what they built.

However, it's just sickening that they don't give credits to the civilisations the copied and stole from, to build theirs. Egypt/Ethiopia/Sudan gave humanity the nucleus of everything. And the Moors who ruled Iberia gave Europeans the blueprint for their renaissance, and the Chinese gave them gunpowder in which they used in conquering - so they need to pay homage. They took us out of the history books, and whoever controls the image controls the mind, hence they've got this unwavering dominion over us.

The subconscious mind controls the conscious mind - and all these white-washed images are basically the reason why we have this lack of self-pride, and also the reason why we're mentally messed up. We have nothing to look up to cos no one in the history books have any semblance.

Anyway, the image of white Jesus always crack me up, though. Let's just leave history for a second and deal with something funny. If the image of the black Madonna (the same one the Pope worships), which represents holy Mary at the Vatican, is black - how come Jesus looks whiter than Scandinavian folks?

The Irony of this debating, is that Jesus being black or white doesn't make him African by Race.
But we are Africans and most accept who we are

sambos994:


Speaking of Christopher Colombus...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/aug/07/books.spain

And people decide to dedicate a whole day to this man.

Lol. Columbus was a fvcking drunkard

The same clown who purportedly discovered the same Americas people have been living in, way before his ancestors were born. That's how messed up history is.

pashaun:
He's a fictional character.

The story is based on Horus lol

Educate yourself

Actually the skin colour is irrelevant. He most certainly was not white. Middle eastern peoples are brownish.

My main issue here is the claim of a fictional Jesus. There is actually MORE documentary evidence for the existence of a historical Jesus than for the existence of (say for example) Julius Caesar. And we don't call Caesar fictional!

tevinsolt:

says science, don't just come here with some bull, back it up with evidence. your claim is as true as saying black were the first English or native Americans.
This is a case of low esteem and insecurity where you are trying delude yourself into believing a false claim.

You are speaking bull crap. Those who speak Afro-Asiatic languages were always at first black. Whether it was Hausa, Somali, Amharic, Arabic, Berber languages, Oromo, Tangale, etc. etc.

They didn't start off as white. Whites inherited the culture of the black Arabs, not the other way around. You speak utter nonsense.

Horus:


You are confusing jewish and jew, the Falashas are Jews but they are not Jewishs

[img]http://www.africareview.com/image/view/-/1971260/highRes/567378/-/maxh/283/maxw/432/-/f33jjcz/-/Falashas+pix.jpg[/img]

I think you are confusing yourself

bigfrancis21:


At this point you have no valid rebuttal other than sideline snickering.

Be truthful, these verses are not talking off Jesus in the flesh and blood,
and even if they were, then no way can they be describing a black man (white face, the face is part of the head).

Rev 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
Rev 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

asodeboyede:

Bro... Needless I say more? I think the devil has really got a lot of people busy this endtime(including me) with frivolities and weightless issues that add little or nothing to our godliness and spirituality! I really feel pained and perplexed! Brown, black or white Jesus... What are we (including the op) doing with Him! As the efficacy of His death been so implemented in our lives? I weep for this generation... We are truly the ones whom the end of the world has come unpon... Hence, the adversary has preoccupied us with many inane thoughts!
We need prayers... Jesus has not sent us to debate his true skin.... But to preach the truth He stands for(Gospel and Evangelism)! Would this theory of black Jesus win a soul? Would he convert a sinner... Ha... The devil is a liar! He has failed in my life(and yours) and every other person that is ready to lift the banner of the gospel in this end time(AMEN)!
Souls are dying.... Here we are debating color!
GOD HAVE MERCY!!!
"I must work the works of him that sent me, while it
is day: the night cometh, when no man can work."
John 9:4

"But shun profane [and] vain babblings: for they will
increase unto more ungodliness."
2Timothy 2:16

emancipate,manumit yourself from the shackles of religion slavery.


Though your ancestors were chained on their body part,I will say they will thank their stars they are not in a generation where people are chained in their brains,because your slavery is worst than theirs.

holyokoto:


Yap, The type of our black or race falls under negroid from mid Africa to central Africa plus west Africa and those immigrant abroad sharing the same race. but the far North Africa and middle near and far east shares the same race of typical Mongoloid

I mean no offence man, but does the average Fulani man look like the average Yoruba man ? I love Yoruba people though, but there is no such thing as the "typical Nigerian black"

I have had Nigerians (not talking about Fulani Nigerians here) tell me I don't look Nigerian, so I'm sorry it's a regional thing.

Mary was black too??

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