agaugust:


The 600 innocent Cameroonian civilians wounded/killed while under Chadian army protection, and the 30 innocent civilian mourners at a funeral in Niger Republique DO NOT SEE ANY Chadian army victory because there is none in reality
.

Thousands of civilians continue to be killed and millions displaced while under Nigerian protection.

Hell, you continue to be mentally and emotionally traumatised by Boko Haram while under Nigerian protection. No peace of mind.

DieVluit:


We are talking about technology and licensing, which world the Badger is part of.

You suddenly don't want to talk about race and other "irrelevant" things, do you?

we're talking about arms; manufacturers licencing conditions and what not.

iterator24:
look at the structure of the car from the driver side and the one you posted plus the lower bumper vents of the two cars you posted.. they are replica huh? dummy... toyota and Mitsubishi has something similar...

stop whining.. post licences

Why are the differences in structure between the two cars different from what South Africa has done on the Badger? It is clear the Inyathi and Innoson are on the same frame and basic design? The parts are the same, of the same material, of the same design. It is obvious.

And you said South Africa does not have its "own" car. How is the Inyathi different from Innoson? And Badger from Patria?

If Innoson is Nigerian, why is Badger not South African?

Further down - Dongfeng Special Vehicle Bus Co., Ltd. China

And Innoson.

DieVluit:


Why are the differences in structure between the two cars different from what South Africa has done on the Badger? It is clear the Inyathi and Innoson are on the same frame and basic design? The parts are the same, of the same material, of the same design. It is obvious.

And you said South Africa does not have its "own" car. How is the Inyathi different from Innoson? And Badger from Patria?

you're blind the two cars have distinctive features visible enough... besides why I'm i arguing over a car that has not been commercialised..
does inyathi also has licences for these too?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1565545_G25_jpg4b3cd3ab696220257b9ff47e4fa11dec

iterator24:
you're blind the two cars have distinctive features visible enough... besides why I'm i arguing over a car that has not been commercialised..
does inyathi also has licences for these too?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1565545_G25_jpg4b3cd3ab696220257b9ff47e4fa11dec

The two mini-buses posted are the same.

No, you are blind

China's bus below - Dongfeng Special Vehicle Bus Co., Ltd. China

Innoson .

Why is Innoson "nigerian", if Badger is not South African?

Answer the question.

agaugust:


South Africa NEVER bought 236 Badger IFVs, you have ONLY about 6 for experimental tests.

You bought no new warships, missiles, torpedoes blah blah blah.....name the weapons and country of sale, and year of delivery, with photos of those 6 new ships in your navy.

You think we Nigerians are fools here that you can bamboozle with your tales by moonlight?
.

You'll see SAN missiles soon.

DieVluit:


The two mini-buses posted are the same.

No, you are blind

China's bus below - Dongfeng Special Vehicle Bus Co., Ltd. China

Innoson .

Why is Innoson "nigerian", if Badger is not South African?

Answer the question.

again, there's no licence or traces of licence anywhere in the books and similar designs are allowed without licence.
e.g F35 and Shenyang J-31

i've given you nigerian cars, give us south african cars

iterator24:


again, there's no licence or traces of licence anywhere in the books and similar designs are allowed without licence.
e.g F35 and Shenyang J-31

i've given you nigerian cars, give us south african cars

Again why is Innoson's bus below Nigerian if Badger is not South African?

Answer, please.

Also, why is the Inyathi in the Picture NOT South African if Innoson is Nigerian?

Answer please.

jln115:

Go look up the definition.

you call an act of tterrorism a civil war? Get real, you can do better.

iterator24:

you've had the same argument with your compatriots in the past andrewza,

www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32046:badger-ifv-industrialisation-starts-in-earnest-with-first-production-model-expected-in-2015&catid=111:sa-defence&Itemid=242

The Badger was not marketed because not all contracts with sub-contractors were signed.

This would enable Denel to come up with total price of Badger system.

agaugust:


Europeans are pocketing all the money/revenue from Badger engine and components parts sales. Stop fvcking yourself dude

Denel negotiates contracts with them.

South Africa supplies components for other weapon systems from other countries, similar to how SA will supply components for the Gripen E/F.

DieVluit:


Again why is Innoson's bus below Nigerian if Badger is not South African?

Answer, please.

Also, why is the Inyathi in the Picture NOT South African if Innoson is Nigerian?

Answer please.

yes, its Nigerian, the owner experimented with modified Chinese designs that wasn't successful before rolling out made in Nigeria cars which you're clearly ignoring and secretly looking for similar designs to compare while posting lol ..

Badger is clearly Finnish, licence information is all over cyber space...
the Chinese can role out similar design if they have the tech and Finland won't do shi

lezz:
you call an act of tterrorism a civil war? Get real, you can do better.

You said Nigeria is at war not me mate!

iterator24:
yes, its Nigerian,

Clearly it's Nigerian? Based on which evidence, when it is ripped off a Chinese design? So, Innoson freely COPIED a Chinese product?

He stole another's design and you call that Nigerian?

So, Nigerian manufacturers STEAL designs?

Again, apple products are not Samsung products, regardless of the screens nor is the Mac OS Microsoft's regardless of the MS for Mac.

agaugust:


That olodo actually believes South Africa sent it's hardened criminals to rob Finland at gun point and walk away with free Badger engines !
.

They came to SA.

Their product was chosen to develop the Badger.

DieVluit:


Clearly it's Nigerian? Based on which evidence, when it is ripped off a Chinese design? So, Innoson freely COPIED a Nigerian product?

He stole another's design and you call that Nigerian?

this is innoson first debut, not prototypes that didn't end up on the road
tell us, which chinese designs are these..
www.nairaland.com/attachments/1804795_ivm202_jpeg23339c368a6267d221fa7880d355ee63



www.ventures-africa.com/2014/12/innoson-unveils-first-made-in-nigeria-cars/


South Africa can only dream of an indigenous car brand.. fact!

iterator24:

this is innoson first debut, not prototypes that didn't end up on the road
tell us, which chinese designs are these..
www.nairaland.com/attachments/1804795_ivm202_jpeg23339c368a6267d221fa7880d355ee63


www.ventures-africa.com/2014/12/innoson-unveils-first-made-in-nigeria-cars/

South Africa can only dream of an indigenous car brand.. fact!

Slow down.

In short, my man. Innoson STOLE the design below..?

Is this what you are telling us? That WITHOUT a license or permission, Innoson freely COPIED another's design and you wanna call that Nigerian?

So, Innoson steals intellectual property? Is this how Nigerians operate?

DieVluit:


Slow down.

In short, my man. Innoson STOLE the design below..?

Is this what you are telling us? That WITHOUT a license or permission, Innoson freely COPIED another's design and you wanna call that Nigerian?

yes, he copied a 'bus' design for a car..

G7 howitzer, most powerful 105mm howitzer ,with a range of more than 30km

iterator24:
yes, he copied a 'bus' design for a car..

He is an intellectual property thief, your Innoson? No license. Nothing. Just free reign on another's design...?

Is this what you are saying?

DieVluit:


He is an intellectual property thief, your Innoson? No license. Nothing. Just free reign on another's design...?

Is this what you are saying?

lol..its not unique to Nigeria, you model after other products to create a unique piece, that's the definition of creativity. Has car design changed it's shape since it's invention?
i could say Denel modeled G series howitzer from GC - 45 howitzer.. He is an intellectual property thief!

anyways, we have an indigenious design now.. stop hating..ignore it all you want..

iterator24:
now you're talking... then finland will get their cuts from the number of units manufactured within that period

Patria proposed their vehicle for project hoefyster, a project to development a new IFV for the SA army.

Their vehicle was used to develop the Badger.

After finalising all contracts Denel will be able to market the whole entire Badger, unlike with the Malaysian deal where they're supplying turrets for the AV8.

iterator24:
lol..its not unique to Nigeria, you model after other products to create a unique piece, thats the definition of creativity. Has car design changed it's shape since it's invention?
i could say Denel modeled G series howitzer from GC - 45 howitzer He is an intellectual property thief!

anyways, we have an indigenious design now.. stop hating

Stealing intellectual property is not unique to Nigeria. That is why we have licences.

And has the Patria changed shape since invention? See how ridiculous you sound?

But you admit that Innoson is an intellectual property thief because the bus below is a knock-off of the Chinese OEM.

DieVluit:


He is an intellectual property thief, your Innoson? No license. Nothing. Just free reign on another's design...?

Is this what you are saying?

denel is an intellectual property thief...

iterator24:
denel is an intellectual property thief...

Your argument is that Denel has a license. You are not stealing if you have a licence.

DieVluit:


Stealing intellectual property is not unique to Nigeria. That is why we have licences.

But you admit that Innoson is an intellectual property thief because the bus below is a knock-off of the Chinese OEM.

your G5 howitzer is a knock-off of the canadian GC-45_howitzer..

show us your car brand, stop wasting our time

iterator24:
you G5 howitzer is a knock-off of the canadian GC-45_howitzer..

show us your car brand, stop wasting our time

You argument is that the Badger is LICENSED.

Have you DROPPED that particular argument or not?

I have posted the Inyathi multiple times.

How does that change the issue on the Badger.

Why is the Badger not South African if the Innoson bus posted is Nigerian?

Answer, please.

DieVluit:


Your argument is that Denel has a license. You are not stealing if you have a licence.

relax, my argument is, Finland gets her cut from every unit of badger produced. fact!

iterator24:
relax, my argument is, Finland gets her cut from every unit of badger produced. fact!

Oh the argument that has been shown to be irrelevant because almost every technology company pays royalties to someone?

DieVluit:


Oh the argument that has been shown to be irrelevant because almost every technology company pays royalties to someone?

In other words, and in the same vein.. Denel's G7 Howitzer is produced under license ? say yes and I'll stop arguing

iterator24:
in other words, and in the same vein.. Denel's G7 Howitzer is produced under license ?

First, are you DROPPING the badger argument because it's not like you are coming up with anything new or improved on that?

Simple question.

Are you also accepting that Innoson STEALS intellectual property?

Simple question.

DieVluit:


First, are you DROPPING the badger argument because it's not like you are coming up with anything new or improved on that?

Simple question.

Are you also accepting that Innoson STEALS intellectual property?

Simple question.

say yes..anwser my question