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Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by rabbaba: 5:49am On Mar 08, 2015
Some wifes r fool. My own divorce for d reason dat I chose to serve God in d church for a time. Just as a vine yeard worker for just three years. And she divorced by parking our load to her fathers house. As I type she has not married. Very soon I will b done with d three years service and I will go back to my biz. She will hear my story
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by UdohOby(f): 6:19am On Mar 08, 2015
I seriously don't believe some people are still this backward undecided. Do u know how it feels as a mother for your child to have ordinary malaria? SS is a terminal disease that a person could live with for the rest of his/her life, that is if he/she doesn't die. That lady did the best thing, and I respect her for it. They could end up having at least 2 SS children, that is not good at all considering the financial implications. Please, if you are not in her shoes, don't judge her.
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by jaybee3(m): 6:33am On Mar 08, 2015
Evina:


Upon receiving our pre marital medical reports, my fiance told me God changed his genotype, from AS to AA. I laughed it off, not because I don't believe in miracles; having personally experienced several, but because he could be very mischievous.

He insisted and asked me to ask his mum. So I asked, "mummy, what is your son's genotype?" She said, " AS". I asked again, for certainty, she said, "AS of course, what's the matter?".

So yes, God changed his genotype! Several tests confirmed it!

To those doubting the efficacy of fasting and praying, SMH. You are on a looooooong tin.
Na lie!

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Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by Nobody: 6:35am On Mar 08, 2015
The woman is mad because of the breach of trust.its painful when someone u trust can look you in the face and lie about something so serious.na this kain man go get hiv from outside,then still be doing her without protection!

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Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by jaybee3(m): 6:37am On Mar 08, 2015
She took the common sense approach considering the fact that healthcare which isn't adequate is also not free in Nigeria.

Why tempt faith when there is a high probability that tears will be the end result?

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Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by Nobody: 6:46am On Mar 08, 2015
muzeze77:
I am in the same shoes I am AS , was shocked to know that my wife was also AS during the pregnancy despite her telling me that she is AA,I thought of Abortion but for some reason I decided to pray that the child should be okay, in my family we have had a lot of SS who died, my Grandmother is the only surviving child out of 7 children. I have been angry and it has affected our relationship. truth be told i don't value her that much any more. Our son is AA. I thought of leaving her after our Son was born, but now I just don't want my Son to live in a broken home. I live in the US so healthcare is better for Sickle Cell Children, but nevertheless I am praying and hoping for just one more and thats it for me

Seriously I understand what it feels like... Betrayal of all time (even though she might not have been aware)
I think you should forgive yourself and your wife and see it from a positive light..
Maybe ladies think differently.
You have an AA son, I would concentrate on trying to love and value my spouse and child more and give up the idea of having more children until I am expressly convinced (by God, guts, instincts whatsoever I believe ) that I should go ahead to have more children..
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by Nobody: 7:02am On Mar 08, 2015
Evina:


Hallelujah!!!

You can only speak for yourself.
And what do you mean by "not the one you can clearly see?" Is God incapable of performing miracles because you can "clearly see" the problem?


Clearly, the first genotype test your husband took was mishandled. We experienced the same issue in my family. All through my dad's life he believed he was AA until my younger brother had to take his test for his school admission. It turned out that my brother was AS. My dad retook his test again, and there it showed that he has always been AS not AA.

Miracles are real however we shouldn't be so gullible to tag it as a miracle because it never happened in the first place.

Your husband genotype was initially AS due to the negligence from the laboratory assistant. If they had carried out their job diligently you will realize that he had always been AA.

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Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by Nobody: 7:03am On Mar 08, 2015
muzeze77:
I am in the same shoes I am AS , was shocked to know that my wife was also AS during the pregnancy despite her telling me that she is AA,I thought of Abortion but for some reason I decided to pray that the child should be okay, in my family we have had a lot of SS who died, my Grandmother is the only surviving child out of 7 children. I have been angry and it has affected our relationship. truth be told i don't value her that much any more. Our son is AA. I thought of leaving her after our Son was born, but now I just don't want my Son to live in a broken home. I live in the US so healthcare is better for Sickle Cell Children, but nevertheless I am praying and hoping for just one more and thats it for me

You could do IVF for the next child....which could get you a kid with the right genotype.

Even having an SS child is not the end....there are SS kids with factor F (type of hemoglobin)....who live better than those without.
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by jaybee3(m): 7:04am On Mar 08, 2015
Fawklicant:


How so? Please enlighten me.
Probability is the likelihood that something may occur so it's not straight fraction like you put it.

For every child they have, there is a 25% chance of he/she being an SS. So it's quite possible for all the children that they have to be SS.

25% is a whole lot to gamble with.
Makes no damn sense!

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Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by Nobody: 7:05am On Mar 08, 2015
UdohOby:
I seriously don't believe some people are still this backward undecided. Do u know how it feels as a mother for your child to have ordinary malaria? SS is a terminal disease that a person could live with for the rest of his/her life, that is if he/she doesn't die. That lady did the best thing, and I respect her for it. They could end up having at least 2 SS children, that is not good at all considering the financial implications. Please, if you are not in her shoes, don't judge her.

SS is not always terminal.....especially if the child has factor F.

Also...AS and AS can be married and have AA kids.(possible).

Happened to a family I know....all their children....except the last born...were AA or AS. Even the last born who was SS had factor F...
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by Nobody: 7:07am On Mar 08, 2015
rabbaba:
Some wifes r fool. My own divorce for d reason dat I chose to serve God in d church for a time. Just as a vine yeard worker for just three years. And she divorced by parking our load to her fathers house. As I type she has not married. Very soon I will b done with d three years service and I will go back to my biz. She will hear my story

Lazy man. Three years ko three tears ni
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by jaybee3(m): 7:10am On Mar 08, 2015
eagleeye2:

Many Warriors will find this statement very offensive and insensitive. Do you think that you and yours are better than all warriors out there?
Please Google T.boz of TLC, she is a warrior and she is living her dreams.
And also read about the guy you are quoting, Abali1 maybe you will begin to change your perspective about people living with SS.
That makes 2 warriors out of how many?

Why should they bring SS children into the world and hope they turn medical Warriors?
I hope you know there are other issues aside from medical that SS children will experience through the course of their lives.

There is the psychological and the consistent/constant fear of unknown derived from the uncertainties that comes along with having such

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Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by Nobody: 7:17am On Mar 08, 2015
Evina:


None taken. wink

Did you read this aspect of my post? Especially the highlighted?



It seems to me that your total disbelief in miracles made you skip that part.

Several tests confirmed my dad to be AA!



If knowingly, you went ahead to take a risk with the belief that God will intervene. Give me one reason why you should not be locked up for putting a human life in danger and wasting our collective resources.

To hell with faith
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by decode55(m): 7:18am On Mar 08, 2015
CounsellorWise:


Beautiful phrase. I wish you the best as you take the heat wherever you are. Happy heat time off Nairaland.

I wish you the same. smiley

Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by daresimon(m): 7:19am On Mar 08, 2015
ijustdey:
there are more to this






just because of genotype she divorce her hubby
agreed he lied but I don't believe that's enough reasons to divorce him



My brother it is enough reason o
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by Themandator: 7:23am On Mar 08, 2015
My wife and I went together for every test including HIV.
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by Nobody: 7:26am On Mar 08, 2015
bushdoc9919:


You could do IVF for the next child....which could get you a kid with the right genotype.

Even having an SS child is not the end....there are SS kids with factor F (type of hemoglobin)....who live better than those without.

Yes 100% for the IVF suggestion but for the HbF, its just too race a case to rely on. Maybe adult SS with high HbF with little or no crisis will be 0.----%, DO no risk..
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by Bigsteveg(m): 7:42am On Mar 08, 2015
cococandy:
What is wrong with people?
it is like some of you don't know how serious the genotype thing is.
If you knew you won't be saying this.

He shouldn't have lied about his genotype.

The one asking her to stay married and pray the next child doesn't turn out to be SS. SMH undecided

And if it does nko? Will prayers cure the child?
Isn't it better to separate than bring kids into this world to suffer needlessly?.
I'm so happy for this first one that turned out alright.

*********
4k for monthly feeding of the child?
This magistrate na wa.
Does the child each only crackers and water?

Let's say the man drops 4k each month and the wife adds to it, it should be enough or na only man born am?
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by TooNoisy(f): 7:58am On Mar 08, 2015
neoapocalypse:


It's actually a 25% chance of having an SS child for every birth

I think it is very important we clarify this point. Too many olodos on nairaland who think the next child cannot be AA. The next child can be AA, AS or SS.

The woman has a right to divorce her husband if she feels very strongly about the issue. But I don't think she would have done the same if the husband was Dangote's son!

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Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by DeBret(m): 8:02am On Mar 08, 2015
DuchessLily:


God bless u for ur insults grin

Its my opinion, which I have a right to ...its none of ur business . get off my mention
nice combo :')
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by CoCoLav(f): 8:10am On Mar 08, 2015
Anaskie:
First of all, I didn't know customary courts had the jurisdiction to dissolve a marriage. undecided

Assuming they did though, I believe that the grounds for dissolution were not proper at all. What if the guy actually believed he was AA?


The comments I've seen here justifying divorce really makes me wonder. Marriage isn't something that should be rushed in and out. Those vows actually mean a lot.

I believe the couple should have worked it out. They could either stop making any more babies, or even adopt one.

Besides, chances are that the second and third children might even both be AS.

You guys make it sound as if Sicklers aren't human beings.

CoColav, wats ur take on dis?

It depends on the type of marriage contracted I guess, iff they got a traditional marriage license from local government I guess customary court will have jurisdiction.

That said, while no one is trying to stigmatize sicklers, you have to admit that the challenges that come with having them are enormous. I am talking healthwise now, challenges that can shake the foundation of your marriage. It is better imagined trust me. I lost 3 friends in secondary school to sickle cell and I blame the parents. For each crisis my friends had, for each school session they missed, i could feel their pain, the pain of wondering which crisis would lead to death...if this will be the last one that would snuff out their lives. When the crisis start coming, the love will definitely be threatened. I lost my cousin to sickle cell on christmas day, a day before his 30th birthday. All these could have been avoided. The woman may also want to have more kids but she doesn't want to risk it. Never allow love to blind you when taking decisions. Don't let it cloud your judgement.

As for the decision the woman took, if she truly loved the man, she could have stayed but maybe they would have agreed not to have more kids but for her to leave, there must have been an underlying issue. Besides, lying is deceitful and nobody wants to be lied to especially by their partner....its horrible, it makes you wonder what else they lied about so i can relate with the woman's decision. I know you have never supported divorce but i believe it would be absolutely necessary in some situations. While you feel she should have worked on the marriage, some things are just dealbreakers for people. Most AS people i know ask of your genotype before even dating you just because they probably saw what their parents went through with an SS sibling and want to avoid it only for one person to.deceive them. Its quite unfair and could be heartbreaking.

On a final note, a marriage can only work between two people who truly want to be together. All efforts to reconcile the couple have proved abortive so how do you force someone to remain in a marriage?

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Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by eagleeye2: 8:19am On Mar 08, 2015
jaybee3:

That makes 2 warriors out of how many?

Why should they bring SS children into the world and hope they turn medical Warriors?

I hope you know there are other issues aside from medical that SS children will experience through the course of their lives.


There is the psychological and the consistent/constant fear of unknown derived from the uncertainties that comes along with having such
And who is asking them to bring SS children into the world?
Moreover the psychological aspect you talked of, comes from the way the "so called healthy" people treat SS person.
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by abdulkayus(m): 8:37am On Mar 08, 2015
Fawklicant:


She can't gamble with a human life. Fact is she can only have one AA child, 2 AS children and 1 SS child in every four children. The order in which they come is random. So would you rather have her gamble and sire a child that might just know only pain and anguish in its lifetime? I know not all sicklers die, but a lot do and the problem is not even in the dying, it is in the living in misery and anguish. They can't do sports, smoke and do a lot of things that we take for granted. Not forgetting the self esteem issues resulting from years of all the pity-party from people.

With all the technological advancements, there is still no cure for it. This is a sickness that affects only black people, so who is gonna find the cure? Some sicklers eventually live successfully with it, but hey! What is the likelyhood?


I hardly comment bt I have to do on this ur comment, guy, outcome of children from AS and AS parent is nt jusy mathematics as u calculate it. There are chances that all the children will be SS or AS or AA, I have seen a couple of all AS having four children and no one of them is SS bt AA and AS, and there has also been a couple of all AS having all their five children as SS, so iys nt wat u think. Prevention is better than cure.
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by Nobody: 8:46am On Mar 08, 2015
kevoh:

Now this is just unnecessarily rude. undecided

Back to the thread, apart from the fact that SS is just 25% chance happening, there's an alternative to deal with the Sickle Cell (SS) wahala for AS couples only snag is it dwells on what the couple might consider as morally right/wrong and might even be a bit pricey to carry out such procedure.
hmm,hope u r not speakin of a bone marrow transplant coz dat would be unwise of u tinkin such procedure wen u could ve easily prevented it...look dere is no option @ all what soever dat shld make an as go into a marriage with its kind,tink of d unborn wot dey are gonna suffer.......*bottom line** immagine a country as hard as naija,even d strong ones find it hard 2 make ends meet,den one is dere talkin of bringin in a weak offspring,suicide would be d least of her options...
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by NemzySeries(m): 9:15am On Mar 08, 2015
thorpido:
^^^
The two posters above me..............the situation this woman found herself is a very serious situation.The man lied to her but it's not just the lie but the consequences of two people with the AS genotype in a marriage.
As it stand now they have a high probability of having a child with the SS genotype.Dealing with that in a family is no child's play.
U shall receive miracle alert dis morning....u jst made ma point dude
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by kevoh(m): 9:34am On Mar 08, 2015
Smartestelvis:
.......*bottom line** immagine a country as hard as naija,even d strong ones find it hard 2 make ends meet,den one is dere talkin of bringin in a weak offspring,suicide would be d least of her options...
Trust me, no one finds it easy anywhere even in developped countries.

Smartestelvis:
hmm,hope u r not speakin of a bone marrow transplant coz dat would be unwise of u tinkin such procedure wen u could ve easily prevented it...
Nope it's not bone marrow transplant.

Smartestelvis:
look dere is no option @ all what soever dat shld make an as go into a marriage with its kind ,tink of d unborn wot dey are gonna suffer...

It's wrong to make such assertive statement, stop seeing it as genotypical mathematics equation AS+AS = SS( when there's still possibility of AA and AS).

What you fail to understand is AS couples are humans and would do what humans always do which is act based on their emotions, it took a lot for them to come together as one and there's no way they will throw it away i.e decide not to marry because Smartestelvis said AS+AS =SS. Those are the people this option is for.
It's called Prenatal Diagnosis, where more than 100 different genetic abnormalities (not just SS genotype) can be diagnosed at early conception stage and the pregnancy terminated if the parents wish,meaning even AA couples are at risks of birthing babies with other genetic disorders unrelated to SS genotype. That is why I said it depends on what they think is morally right or wrong.

A prenatal diagnosis could be carried out to determine if the foetus is AA, AS or SS(determination of other genetic disorders is necessary too) and the parents are left to decide.

We need to get people informed about their options. Cheers

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Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by sylve11: 10:04am On Mar 08, 2015
Dyt:


Love?
Pray?
undecided undecided


hmmmmmm cool
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by Nobody: 10:13am On Mar 08, 2015
kevoh:

Trust me, no one finds it easy anywhere even in developped countries.


Nope it's not bone marrow transplant.



It's wrong to make such assertive statement, stop seeing it as genotypical mathematics equation AS+AS = SS( when there's still possibility of AA and AS).

What you fail to understand is AS couples are humans and would do what humans always do which is act based on their emotions, it took a lot for them to come together as one and there's no way they will throw it away i.e decide not to marry because Smartestelvis said AS+AS =SS. Those are the people this option is for.
It's called Prenatal Diagnosis, where more than 100 different genetic abnormalities (not just SS genotype) can be diagnosed at early conception stage and the pregnancy terminated if the parents wish,meaning even AA couples are at risks of birthing babies with other genetic disorders unrelated to SS genotype. That is why I said it depends on what they think is morally right or wrong.

A prenatal diagnosis could be carried out to determine if the foetus is AA, AS or SS(determination of other genetic disorders is necessary too) and the parents are left to decide.

We need to get people informed about their options. Cheers


Prenatal diagnosis is not an option in this family case. For the court to make the man pay 4000 for the child's upkeep tells you he does not earn well.
That diagnosis cost about 250,000 in Nigeria, I doubt if he will be able to afford that, again when it shows SS so what happens, they abort the fetus? The wahala too much.. The best option is to avoid AS+AS combination.
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by Nobody: 10:16am On Mar 08, 2015
kevoh:

Trust me, no one finds it easy anywhere even in developped countries.


Nope it's not bone marrow transplant.



It's wrong to make such assertive statement, stop seeing it as genotypical mathematics equation AS+AS = SS( when there's still possibility of AA and AS).

What you fail to understand is AS couples are humans and would do what humans always do which is act based on their emotions, it took a lot for them to come together as one and there's no way they will throw it away i.e decide not to marry because Smartestelvis said AS+AS =SS. Those are the people this option is for.
It's called Prenatal Diagnosis, where more than 100 different genetic abnormalities (not just SS genotype) can be diagnosed at early conception stage and the pregnancy terminated if the parents wish,meaning even AA couples are at risks of birthing babies with other genetic disorders unrelated to SS genotype. That is why I said it depends on what they think is morally right or wrong.

A prenatal diagnosis could be carried out to determine if the foetus is AA, AS or SS(determination of other genetic disorders is necessary too) and the parents are left to decide.

We need to get people informed about their options. Cheers

hmm,i'm nt gud @ quotin i probably would va struck out ur obsessive errors word 4 wrds.....if dis trend was about child termination i suppose u would oppose d motion bt here u are talkin of foetus detection,so if it were 2 be an ss,u wld recomemd terminatin d poor fellows life rite,give it anoda name aside murder pls............and dat advice about me seein it as as a mathematical equation whatever,i fink u shld take ur advice n stop seein child bearin as a pocker gamble.....finally,i agree wit u life aint easy anywhere but what could b mre worse dan a health hazard now added 2 life difficulties,4 me i believe no challenge in life can be worse dan health chalendge especially an inherited one,worse of all ppl like u were insinuatin dat its no big deal.......i continue 2 reply u coz its obvious u r nt quite enlightened on dis issue but i want 2 leave u betta dan way i met u......
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by thorpido(m): 10:17am On Mar 08, 2015
neoapocalypse:


It's actually a 25% chance of having an SS child for every birth
Do you know what that 25% means?It doesn't necessarily mean it will be one out of 4.It means it can actually be that 25% for every birth i.e that child could be that 25% for each birth.
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by Nobody: 10:43am On Mar 08, 2015
thorpido:
Do you know what that 25% means?It doesn't necessarily mean it will be one out of 4.It means it can actually be that 25% for every birth i.e that child could be that 25% for each birth.

Same for AA as well , every child has a 25% probability of being AA , only AS has a 50% probability
Overall "good" outweighs "bad" AA/AS = 75% , SS = 25%
Re: Wife Divorce Husband Because He Lied About His Genotype by kevoh(m): 10:49am On Mar 08, 2015
favoured234:


Prenatal diagnosis is not an option in this family case. For the court to make the man pay 4000 for the child's upkeep tells you he does not earn well.
That diagnosis cost about 250,000 in Nigeria, I doubt if he will be able to afford that, again when it shows SS so what happens, they abort the fetus? The wahala too much.. The best option is to avoid AS+AS combination.

First off my opinion borders in general on already married AS couples and intending ones nothing to do with the OP's story, and yes I know its pricey.

The best option maybe for you not for others. You guys are seeing it from the angle of 1+1=2 so don't do it. You can't dictate outrightly to humans especially when their EMOTIONS are involved, they are not robots which means AS will still get married and make babies wether you like it or not. Viable options for these set of people is what I'm talking of.

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