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Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Nobody: 10:09am On Mar 19, 2015 |
Dcmg:don't ask me' if u insult my God u will go for it by death, do u want to test my God? |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 10:10am On Mar 19, 2015 |
frankmishael1: [size=20] Nooo month end is too far... tonight tonight or is your god not all powerful again? i suggest you start praying and fasting, go naked to make it more effective... and if i dont die today i will open a thread tomorrow and mention you [/size] 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Nobody: 10:11am On Mar 19, 2015 |
johnydon22:my prayer has been answered, month end for u |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by slogozer(m): 10:11am On Mar 19, 2015 |
wordcat: Leave what they say alone, what do you believe and say yourself? What is our profit and hope after HERE. One has to live WITH PURPOSE and FOR PURPOSE. What is yours? 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. I pray that the Spirit of the living God will reach out to your SOUL this morning in Jesus name. 2 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 10:12am On Mar 19, 2015 |
frankmishael1: [size=20] i am testing you god ooooooooooooo... aaah make i shout am? start praying for ur god to kill me today oooo or it will be official it doesnt exist.. [/size] 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 10:14am On Mar 19, 2015 |
frankmishael1: [size=20] nawa oo and i said i want it today, month end is too far for me to remember we had this bet... today today please start praying for me to die tonight..or!!! [/size] lol even ur fellow christians must be shaming for u now.. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by PastorOluT(m): 10:14am On Mar 19, 2015 |
ooman: What u call education is what u have been made to believe in faith, what if for example u have been taught from youth that there is no number 5 u would never had had problems with it cos thats what all believe in. Science/proves/learning/education is only buit up on other peoples ideas n ones u cant quote someone famous in order to buttress ur own idea than u will never be taken serious. NB All these theories n ur beliefs are only taking out meaning out of existence n are good for nothing else, or do u really think life has no meaning? |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Infomizer(m): 10:15am On Mar 19, 2015 |
davien:I understand your angst bro...With time tho'...With time! 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by logica(m): 10:15am On Mar 19, 2015 |
Dcmg:LOL. You didn't know? His god is a serial killer. 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Dcmg(m): 10:21am On Mar 19, 2015 |
frankmishael1:Smh.So this is what Religion has to offer? Ask them a simple question they tell you gibberish 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Humblebloke(m): 10:22am On Mar 19, 2015 |
Masterclass32: I know he loves me .... Which was why he came to spread the gospel about the one and only ominipotent God Wah I do not understand is how *our lord jesus* became mightier than the Creator* |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 10:24am On Mar 19, 2015 |
meanwhile in science; Jupiter's moon Ganymede shows to possess water .. Another candidate for possible extra-terrestrial life.. 2 Likes
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Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Nobody: 10:25am On Mar 19, 2015 |
Dcmg:u want to join then? |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 10:29am On Mar 19, 2015 |
now these ones will start arguing whether jesus is God or not Masterclass32:[size=20] This one is theistic about jesus (jesus is god) [/size] Humblebloke:[size=20]And this one is atheistic about jesus (jesus is not god)[/size] This only proofs that these god concepts are just mere human fabrications... 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Misogynist2014(m): 10:29am On Mar 19, 2015 |
ooman:OK. Point being established, do you now agree that life is impossible without God? That is the very first step to knowing the Ideal God. Like the question I asked that guy in which I mentioned you as a mysterious animal, challenging him to prove he's human, not everything can be subjected to proof, be it agnosticism, theism, atheism deism, e.t.c. These thoughts are based on logic and can't be subjected to proof, just the way logic tells me you're human. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Dcmg(m): 10:31am On Mar 19, 2015 |
frankmishael1:Get a life Brother |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 10:32am On Mar 19, 2015 |
frankmishael1: [size=30] ooh shut the fvk up... Do you accept my challenge? start praying for me to die today cus if i dont die today, then it will be official your God doesnt exist.. now tell me have you started praying[/size] 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by davien(m): 10:32am On Mar 19, 2015 |
slogozer:Whoa whoa whoa, back up fella.....frustation isn't equal to anger....I'm not angry with christians....it's just that nowadays there are a large group willing to lie to make people follow them...and i'm frustrated at that. And sorry to say but those bible verses mean nothing to me, I'm an agnostic atheist. 2 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by wordcat(m): 10:36am On Mar 19, 2015 |
slogozer: Did humans ever beg god to create them? After life is not my problem because I don't think of it My concern is abt this life am living now 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Humblebloke(m): 10:42am On Mar 19, 2015 |
johnydon22: You need spiritual healing...... You need an encounter with the *ultimate guide* #peace |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by slogozer(m): 10:42am On Mar 19, 2015 |
davien: Don't worry about what you are; agnostic or non-agnostic atheist. Worry about the fact that you have heard the gospel(good news) severally. At the right time before the Judge of the earth (hopefully for rewards and not for sentencing) you will realise like all the other AGNOSTIC ATHEIST before you that no one chooses his father or mother. My wonderful friend, The Bible on the last day will be a WITNESS to this day(hopefully to paradise). shalom! |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by falopey: 10:43am On Mar 19, 2015 |
ooman: I pity your ignorance. You don't even know that you are counting number of years that surfaced after the birth of Jesus. It's 2015 years after the birth of Jesus. The 12 months calendar was invented by pope Gregory. That's y we call it Gregorian calendar. So Jesus came into the world 2015 years ago. So what is secular in that? It's a Christian calendar, Muslims have their own new year calendar. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 10:49am On Mar 19, 2015 |
[size=15]Looking at all theist argument here, none of them seem to be sure their God exists. their arguments only revolve around "First cause Argument" Something can't come out nothing, therefore everything that exists must need a creator" lol...which ironically i can use this to say it was zeus or horus that created the world Using a god that always existed doesnt solve this problem, it only postpones it. Because you have to assume your god didn't need a creator (pops out of nothing) and created everything out of nothing.. Failing in your own argument.. If you can assume your god don't need a creator then i can say such for the universe. But if something can't come and out of nothing then Your god cant exist on it's own it must have been created by another god, who then must have been created by another and the chain goes on resulting to a chain of infinite regress. Bringing such a thing as "a god did it" is a huge stab in the intellectual curiosity of man and drastically reduces your willingness and ability to acquire the knowledge of how it happened. and God of the gaps argument.."We don't know this which mean a god must have done it.. This is a very archaic argument and is a shame to the 21st century. The ancient men once believed their was a store room for snow and the rain must be due to a god taking a piss, but now through study we know better and nobody is attributing these things to a god anymore.. Using such argument in the 21st century is so primitive... Yes we don't know about so many things now, that what science is all about to learn about what we dont know and understand what we dont understand..not someone who doesnt know and wouldnt want to know just say "god did it"and that is it. Science and studies will always be improved and our science now will be nothing compared to that of our children or their children before them..most questions we have now will be answered commonly then.. [/size] 4 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Nobody: 10:50am On Mar 19, 2015 |
Summary of this thread(this will save your time)- -"Atheists require faith. They believe in the big bang and evolution!" -"Atheists are fools! It says so in this dusty old book written 3000yrs ago by ignorant, desert dwelling, camel piss-drinkers, that I've never read from cover to cover." -"Look at the sky! It's pretty. Theists: 1, Atheist: 0" -"Atheists believe the world exploded and the milk, boobs and the female reproductive. Theists: 2, Atheist: 0" -"My God will kill you next month. Repent, he loves you! Theists: 3, Atheist: 0" -"No atmosphere on the moon but the flag waved! Theist: 4, Atheist: 0" -"How did everything come about? Scientists say stuff I don't understand, this book that also tells me the earth is the centre of the universe says God did it! Theists: 5, Atheist: 0" -"My dear friend, you have to believe oh unless you will burn in hellfire. {cites random bible verse}" -"My God is the real one! It says so in his diary!" -"Big asteroid no hit earth kill all. God! Theists: 6, Atheist: 0" -"Things exist. That article on how the eye evolved is too long hence it was designed! Theists: 7, Atheist: 0" -"Lmao. Scientist are stewpid! They think my skydaddy didn't speak the world into existence 6000yrs ago!" -"Until I see a selfie of the big bang, me no believe!" -"Nigerian atheists are following the white man instead of this other white man Jebus!" -"The great flood killed the dinosaurs, because well fvck them! We found them burried afterall!" -"Pope G invented calender. Hence everyday is a Christian day." ...etc So to you stewpid atheists out there and 'evolutionists' that are always using big big words...we are clearly winning! God: 1 000 000, Atheist: 0! 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by davien(m): 10:50am On Mar 19, 2015 |
slogozer:Yes I've heard the "gospel" ,and I've spent my time even preaching it before I became an atheist. I've also been exposed to different denominations of "the gospel",in all that,no one ever presented anything as proof.... it's all faith,and that is an admission to not having any evidence. Your faith is no different than an idol worshipper,no different than a budhist,hindu,mithraist,etc... And the issue is people willing to lie and dumb down society just to promote their faith. 3 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by slogozer(m): 10:53am On Mar 19, 2015 |
wordcat: Do children have to ask their parents either? Not thinking about after life? Start thinking but also plans towards it. Just my advice Ecclesiastes 11 8 But if a man live many years, and rejoice in them all; yet let him remember the days of darkness; for they shall be many. All that cometh is vanity. 9 Rejoice, O young man, in thy youth; and let thy heart cheer thee in the days of thy youth, and walk in the ways of thine heart, and in the sight of thine eyes: but know thou, that for all these things God will bring thee into judgment. 10 Therefore remove sorrow from thy heart, and put away evil from thy flesh: for childhood and youth are vanity. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by 36STATES: 10:54am On Mar 19, 2015 |
MightyMuna: My life became more meaningful after I banished Abrahamic religion's concept of god in it in the year 2000. After my first year of study in Europe, I started questioning everything, seeking answers for most of the things we take for granted in Nigeria. I deliberately took all my elective courses from faculties of theology and philosophy. After courses like epistemology, philosophy of science, creation narratives, logic, history of religion, anthropology of religion and philosophy of religion, my eyes got opened. When you finish a course like epistemology or theories of knowledge, you would think twice before using terms like "The GOD I KNOW" which is common in Nigeria. Religion in Nigeria is pure business. Never give your money to no pastor. If a pastor need anything he should ask it from god as he advises you to do. Why ask you for your last card when he can ask god to give him? You all know why.....no god gives money. 4 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 10:54am On Mar 19, 2015 |
slogozer: Which calendar are you using... Gregorian/Julian calendar huh? this is a roman calendar invented by the early christians. and your christian faith is a roman invention (Paulus and constantine) in hebrew calendar this is the year 5775... in mayan calendar its a different thing all together... The bible.. i doubt you even know how this bible came to be.. 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Nobody: 10:55am On Mar 19, 2015 |
davien: You tried in your write up, but it still has some flaws. You said atheists don't have to believe anything, but at least they believe there is no God who created the universe, unlike theists. Why are you battling to differentiate 'believe' and 'accept'? Can you accept what you don't believe in? Even in Merriam Webster dictionary, one of the definitions of 'believe' is: "to ACCEPT something as true, genuine, or real". You said we've witnessed first hand the birth of planets and starts? I disagree with you. I'd rather say that new planets and stars are being discovered, with advancement in astronomy. None of the astronomists can prove with certainty that those planets and stars were just formed. Even if they are, can He who formed the universe not advance it further? You also said work gets rearranged into different forms of which part of it can be matter... That's not what Newton's 2nd law of motion states. It states that energy cannot be created nor destroyed but converted from one form (of energy) to another (not converted to matter) .You can't convert energy to matter. You can only convert energy to energy, for example solar energy is converted to heat or electrical energy, chemical energy in petrol is converted to mechanical energy etc. By and by, your rebuttal is also flawed, just like the original post has some flaws considering that the op mentioned most atheists, rather than some. By the way, I believe in God and I'm a Christian. I don't have answers to everything about the earth or creation, but I still choose to believe. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by ooman(m): 10:56am On Mar 19, 2015 |
PastorOluT: Still making the same mistakes equating science with faith. Are you suggesting there is no case where a student discovers something that disproves what his teacher believes? This is infact the way science grows. New discoveries tell us where we are wrong and teaches us new things. This never happen in religion. So science is never a belief system. And why dont you tell me the meaning of life. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by ooman(m): 10:59am On Mar 19, 2015 |
falopey: Why dont you read something on solar year and see who is ignorant. 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by ooman(m): 11:01am On Mar 19, 2015 |
Misogynist2014: Why would I agree? What have you said that will make me agree with this nonsense. 1 Like |
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