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Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Nobody: 3:17pm On Sep 08, 2013 |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by brainwave360(m): 9:44pm On Sep 08, 2013 |
Tony Spike: - What about the Nilo saharans and Afro asiatics ? Weren't they the inhabitants of this area ? I thought the Bantu were more related to the West African Niger-congo language group than to either one of these. The Y DNA lineages of the modern day Bantu are the same as those of modern day west Africans not so much to the modern day people of Sudan. |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Nobody: 9:47pm On Sep 08, 2013 |
Please spare us the Egypt-Israel fairy tales. We don't come from there. We ain't related with West Africans ethnic groups b it culturally or physically |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Nobody: 11:26pm On Sep 08, 2013 |
brainwave360: what about the Nilotes? i know they are mixed (some are part or mostly E1B1B) but for the MOST PART they fall under the E1b1a category as well. |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Nobody: 11:27pm On Sep 08, 2013 |
Also all groups of Africans have origins in the east. so yes, we (black folks) came from the same region as the afro. asiatics but branched off. |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by EMG1195: 2:17am On Sep 11, 2013 |
brainwave360: The original Egyptians were Bantus who lived in the sahara desert before it dried up. This proto egyptians were called the ANU. When the Sahara desert began to dry up this proto egyptians migrated in deferent directions: This Anu are the distant ancestors of the Dogon, wolof, yoruba, ibo, etc. It is this Anu who built megaliths allover the world beginning in the Sahara. The Nabta Playa megalith, built by the ANU, before ancient egypt came into existence is the oldest in the world: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyOnNNHS004 http://wysinger.homestead.com/nabtaplaya.html When the Anu moved to present day egypt they mixed with nubians to create the ancient egyptians. This is why the Egyptian culture has both Bantu and Nilotic traits. The egyptians practiced circumcision which is a very old bantu custom. |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by TonySpike: 5:51am On Sep 11, 2013 |
EMG1195: Tell me, are these Anu people the same as ancient Ainu people of Africa? How long ago did this dispersal happen? Would you know what the original Anu language look like? |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by EMG1195: 10:38pm On Sep 11, 2013 |
Tony Spike: Egyptologist, Abbe Emile Amelineau was an authority on the proto egyptians this is what he said about the Anu; "These Anu were agricultural people, raising cattle on a large scale along the Nile, shutting themselves up in walled cities for defensive purposes. To this people we can attribute without fear of error, the most ancient Egyptian books, The Book of The Dead and the Text of the Pyramids, consequently all the myths of religious teachings. I would add almost all the philospohical systems then known and still called Egyptian. They evidently knew the crafts necessary for any civilization and were familiar with the tools those trades required. They knew how to use metals . . . They made the earliest attempts at writing, for the whole Egyptian tradition attributes this art to Thoth, the great Hermes, an Anu like Osiris, who is called Onian in chapter fifteen of The Book of the Dead and in the Texts of the Pyramids. Certainly the people already knew the principal arts; it left proof of this in the architecture of the tombs at Abydos, especially the tomb of Osiris, and in those sepulchres objects have been found bearing the unmistakeable stamp of their origin - such as carved ivory . . . . All those cities [Ant, Annu Menti, Aunti, Aunyt-Seni today called Esneh, Erment, Quoch, and Heliopolis] have the characteristic symbol which serves to denote the name Anu” --Abbe Emile Amelineau 1850-1916 CE |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by EMG1195: 10:49pm On Sep 11, 2013 |
NUMBERS 1-10 in various world languages: Numbers in Million-Speaker Languages The roughly 200 languages with over a million native speakers (taken from David Crystal). Don't take the cutoffs too seriously-- estimates of numbers of speakers are often extremely unreliable. Why native speakers? Because while counting native speakers is hard, counting second-language speakers is pretty much impossible. Often no figures at all are available; or if numbers exist, there's no way of knowing where they came from or what kind of fluency was measured. Languages in red are the twelve languages with the greatest number of speakers-- over 100 million or so. 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Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Nobody: 11:13pm On Sep 11, 2013 |
To me Bantu people are like the Slavs of Africa, which is said btw. Like the Slavic people, people ignore Bantu people and their history(including Africanist themselves!). Many people usually focus on West Africa, East Africa(Horn) or Egypt/Nubia. But also ignore Bantu contribution. Bantu people have civilizations from Kongo kingdom, Great Zimbabwe and the Swahili states(which imo beats Ancient Egypt in certain things). Yet we really we do not know much about Bantu civilizations. Heck we don't even know much about Great Zimbabwe. Bantu contribution to Africa should be noticed more. 1 Like |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Nobody: 11:30pm On Sep 11, 2013 |
Stranglehold: To me Bantu people are like the Slavs of Africa, which is said btw. Like the Slavic people, people ignore Bantu people and their history(including Africanist themselves!). Many people usually focus on West Africa, East Africa(Horn) or Egypt/Nubia. But also ignore Bantu contribution. Bantu people have civilizations from Kongo kingdom, Great Zimbabwe and the Swahili states(which imo beats Ancient Egypt in certain things). Yet we really we do not know much about Bantu civilizations. Heck we don't even know much about Great Zimbabwe. Bantu contribution to Africa should be noticed more. True words. 2 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Nobody: 11:40pm On Sep 11, 2013 |
*Kails*: Thanks. Northeast Africans are the Southern Europeans of Africa. Southern Europeans like Spaniards, Sicilians and Greeks. Like Southern Europeans people question Northeast Africans 'races'. People question if Southern Europeans are truly 'white', while other peole question if Northeast Africans are 'black'. 4 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Nobody: 4:16am On Sep 12, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: eh. that's true. well i have seen discussions about them (southern europeans) on other cites, but as i have said before the entire area is full of mutts. i think a lot of the racism today has blinded a lot of people from knowing that race mixing is ancient. there was a time where race itself was not a factor, but rather class was the issue. [how could we go from an era where an african of nobility in Rome could own white slaves, and claim there wasn't any race mixing?] So if you could imagine that, there is no doubt there was a lot a of mixing happening esp. in those areas where there was easy access to one another. 1 Like |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Merk3m(m): 4:45pm On Oct 23, 2013 |
PhysicsQED: I don't think they were "influenced" at all, because the way I see it, diversification/differentiation of languages was the reason for the split of Bantu from non-Bantu and the Bantu languages are just a more recent unique subgroup of "Niger Congo" that attained a very large size/popultion of speakers PhysicsQED I recently stumbled onto this topic myself when examining worldwide concepts of "life-force", which quite obviously show the "d.n.a" of african concepts of energy or even spirituality. This somehow lead me to the study of the very words you used in the quoted post, and many more in regards to fundamental words. I would certainly like to work with you and compare infomation and perhaps learn from one another as I have come to the same conclusion as you regarding likely ancient human origin of such fundamental words as "person". Indeed what we are touching on is very much like what the human genome project was to blood ancestry except here it is the "d.n.a" of the languages of the world. Please send me an email or give me a call. Or even someone else who has similar info. We should colaborate. "umuntu ngmuntu ngbantu". merk3m@gmail.com And LeMark 714-733-0230. Very exciting topic, and I certainly have insight regarding the topic that I am a bit protective of until I feel it is appropriate, and in the right company. |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by mwanawefwe: 10:59am On Dec 23, 2013 |
I am impressed by observations made in this article. It is interesting that far away in West Africa some peoples refer to a child as 'omu' or 'omo'; 'omuan' for person and umunna for children . The Bukusu (a subgroup of the Luyia) in Kenya say 'omuana' for a child and 'babana' for children, while 'omundu' is a person. I begin feeling the urge to get more word relationships from these ethnic groups. I think we are one and the same people unless geneticists say otherwise. |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by 740megawatts: 11:12am On Dec 23, 2013 |
mwanawefwe: I am impressed by observations made in this article. It is interesting that far away in West Africa some peoples refer to a child as 'omu' or 'omo'; 'omuan' for person and umunna for children . The Bukusu (a subgroup of the Luyia) in Kenya say 'omuana' for a child and 'babana' for children, while 'omundu' is a person. I begin feeling the urge to get more word relationships from these ethnic groups. I think we are one and the same people unless geneticists say otherwise. Nice to have you on this thread. Your contributions are needed no matter how little it is. Tell me, why are Luhyas referred to as Bantus when your language is heavily influenced by Nilote words. I have a theory that Luhya, Luos and the Yorubas had some form of relationships as far as 4000-5000 yrs ago with the focal point in ancient Misri. The frequent use of O's and A's in many words of these three African groups is enough suspicion and not coincident, so to say. What is your opinion, sir? |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by brainwave360(m): 11:19pm On Dec 23, 2013 |
mwanawefwe: I am impressed by observations made in this article. It is interesting that far away in West Africa some peoples refer to a child as 'omu' or 'omo'; 'omuan' for person and umunna for children . The Bukusu (a subgroup of the Luyia) in Kenya say 'omuana' for a child and 'babana' for children, while 'omundu' is a person. I begin feeling the urge to get more word relationships from these ethnic groups. I think we are one and the same people unless geneticists say otherwise. That's interesting, you saw a similarity with the west African languages and I with yours but not with the west african ones. The words you used are similar to the baSotho language words for the same thing (nguana and bana) and the omundu is similar to umuntu in the Nguni languages which in some places is pronounced as umundu, ndebeles and some swazi dialects do. Nwana is child in xiTsonga and chiVenda. Someone mentioned before the Igbo(west african) equivalent is Nwa. The words in Bukusu are definitely bantu, if you said them in South Africa we'd know what you were talking about because even the singular and plural follow the same logic or rhythm. Its amazing to see how the words have evolved like just looking at the words for elephant that I've seen in this thread which are jobo, joko, njoku, njogu, ndovu, ndlovu I would have never linked the first with the last, so depending on where you look you might not see that there's a link when there is. I'm curious, there's a saying in South Africa umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu (a person is a person because of people). I'm curious to know how it would translate into Bukusu. |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by TonySpike: 4:01pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
I LOVE THIS THREAD! 1 Like |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Nobody: 9:59am On Mar 10, 2015 |
brainwave360:In my language (kikuyu) that translates into mundu ni mundu niundu wa andu and in kiswahili its mtu ni mtu kwasababu ya watu. Let's resurrect the thread people, let's compare words. I've been hearing the word my heart in various bantu languages used in love songs moyo wangu or roho yangu - kiswahili muoyo wakwa or ngoro yakwa - kikuyu motima wange - luganda (not sure) omotima wanje - luhya (also not sure) I know in zulu my means wam and me means mina so mimi -kiswahili nie - kikuyu Also could someone tell me what motema na ngai means, i've heard it in so many lingala songs and i've been crackng my heard about it! |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by lepasharon(f): 11:03pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
I have noticed Bantus also have different features from us aswell 1 Like |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Nobody: 7:40am On Apr 05, 2015 |
Bazil: Exactly, that's my understanding as well. West Africa is a new one to me. |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Nobody: 7:44am On Apr 05, 2015 |
TonySpike: They were not called Zulus then but the Nguni people. The name Zulus only came about in the time of Shaka. |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Nobody: 8:51am On Apr 05, 2015 |
lepasharon: Very different especially women. Most Bantu women have curves whether Kenya, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Namibia South Africa. Facial differences I have noticed are- West Africans have more bolder and bigger features nose, mouth, eyes etc. 2 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Phut(f): 2:41am On Apr 06, 2015 |
brainwave360:Nwa = Child in Igbo Nwanna = Fathers child. Nna means father. When a person refers to u as Nwanna, it's like they are calling you their fathers child (sibling) Umu = children in Igbo Umunna = Father's children (i.e siblings) Similar to Umundu is Nmadu (Igbo word for person) |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Nobody: 2:05pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
Phut:This definitely confirms the bantus had some contact with the Igbos, i am not sure about other nigerian tribes though 1 Like |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Nobody: 2:40pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
Although in all bantus languages i have come across, the father is usually ()baba and the child is usually a variant of ()(m/n)()wana |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Phut(f): 4:44pm On Apr 06, 2015 |
pkjag: Also, like PhysicsQED stated, Umunna can also be used to signify, descendants |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Nobody: 1:04am On Apr 07, 2015 |
pkjag: Translation for "my heart" Muoyo kwanje - Luhya(Idakho) Ngoo yakwa - Kamba |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Nobody: 10:08am On Apr 07, 2015 |
muafrika:Thanks for the correction, are you a mlunje muafrika? |
Re: Origin Of The Bantu Peoples: Eastern Nigeria/Western Cameroun? by Nobody: 6:51pm On Apr 07, 2015 |
pkjag:I am. And you could be right too. We speak different according to sub tribes. |
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