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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by DukeNija(m): 4:50pm On Apr 13, 2015
KIRIJI:
Oba Esugbayi Eleko 1901 - 1925

This man is definitely in Hell fire
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 4:51pm On Apr 13, 2015
omonnakoda:
Arabs STRONGLY identify with each other they even have an Arab league,went to war with israel ecause of Palestine and audi bank rolls Egypt. Chronology ? I am afraid I do not see the relevance. The point I am making is that there was never a Yoruba Nation just as there never was an Arab Nation.For those bits that fell under Oyo the relationship was of a vassal bringing TRIBUTE. It was an Empire not a Nation.


There are countless examples of such AFFINITIES e.g Scots and English etc Now in 1891 there was a Census in Lagos and people identified themselves by ethnic group s Ijebu,Egba,Ekiti Nupe etc Yoruba not recorded? Was this a coincidence. The people who were known as Yoruba were OYO. Outside Nigeria which you refer to they are called Anago and not Yoruba. There is an encyted population in Delta state of Lucumi speakers they decline to be called Yoruba not because they are being oppositional but because they know their history and they are NOT Yoruba just as thousands of Hausa speakers in Northern Nigeria are not Hausa Ugbodu,

I already alluded to the point of Oyo being solely Yoruba which in essence means it is not an encompassing term.

Regardless of this we still identify with ourselves, yes?

Since you are not in tune with the idea of Yoruba (land) as an encompassing term, what then is your take? Let me learn from you.
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by shamecurls(m): 4:53pm On Apr 13, 2015
KIRIJI:
Oba Oyekan I 1885-1900




Kiriji! Nice name

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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by baby124: 4:54pm On Apr 13, 2015
Billyonaire:
This is when Obas where not in the pockets of politicians and not taking bribes. Oba Lil Wayne should stop desecrating the Royal Stool with his greedy affiliation with politics and politicians.
I am lagosian and supposed to be offended. But o boy, I scatter laugh at Oba lil wayne grin grin grin cheesy. That Oba put real confusion in Lagos. Hahahaha

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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by hercules07: 4:57pm On Apr 13, 2015
SirShymexx:


Who made Olubadan a first class king? Loooooool. They nuked Yoruba culture with that, especially with a kingship that isn't really legit lol.

You don't know what a first class king is.

Shymmex and his Ibadan wahala, in truth, the Olubadan is not a first class Oba if we are to go by Yoruba tradition, he owes his allegiance to the Alaafin of Oyo. The Alaafin is the first of first class obas, he is followed by his brothers, as far as I am concerned the Ooni is not a first class Oba by our tradition, he is a babalawo or chief priest. The awujale should be accorded his rights as a first class Oba by Yoruba tradition as the ijebus were not really part of the hinterland yorubas and were great warriors.

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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 4:57pm On Apr 13, 2015
Mynd44:

I did not say there are only 5 but the last I heard was there are 5..there might be more though

I know the Alaafin, Olubadan, Ooni are among.

Perhaps the Deji of Akure and Soun of Ogbomosho (not sure of the Soun though)
Owa obokun Adimula of Ijesa land is what

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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 4:57pm On Apr 13, 2015
reborn1:


You are absolutely right. The Ojoras, Onikoyis, Onirus, Aromire, Oluwas and even the Otos are just watching by the sides which is very bad.

They are very passive in the operation of Lagos except when their kids mount toll gates or get rowdy with high end cars at beaches cheesy

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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by bobo9ice: 4:59pm On Apr 13, 2015
Mynd44:

I did not say there are only 5 but the last I heard was there are 5..there might be more though

I know the Alaafin, Olubadan, Ooni are among.

Perhaps the Deji of Akure and Soun of Ogbomosho (not sure of the Soun though)

State Govt now has the power to upgrade Obas... So each state has first Class Obas of their own.
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by omonnakoda: 4:59pm On Apr 13, 2015
9jacrip:


I already alluded to the point of Oyo being solely Yoruba which in essence means it is not an encompassing term.

Regardless of this we still identify with ourselves, yes?

Since you are not in tune with the idea of Yoruba (land) as an encompassing term, what then is your take? Let me learn from you.
Things develop with need and circumstances. I tend to See Yoruba as the Lingua franca of the SW rather than language. There is a very strong human tendency to identify with Language but Jesus spoke Aramaic which was also the Linguafranca of Babylon.Who speaks it today.? Very few and it is much changed. That is the nature of the Human journey looking forward not back.I think Yoruba language is endangered We hardly read in it we don't count in it and we are not adopting it to new technologies or science or law so I think it will die out maybe not totally but it will die out before Hausa if we remain in Nigeria . That is quite clear

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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by washishi: 5:00pm On Apr 13, 2015
i see
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by pendicle: 5:00pm On Apr 13, 2015
Mynd44:

I went further to explain that

"The Eleko's territory is limited to Lagos Island and environs but that changed when the constitution made the crown the head of all traditional crowns in Lagos state. At this point, the Oba of Lagos was coined as the Oba of Lagos which is the Oba of Lagos State not just Lagos Island like the Eleko"

I think you should quit saying things you know nothing about.

There are 4 1st class Oba in Lagos, the Oba of Lagos who is also the eleko or OLOWO EKO, the Ayangburen of Ikorodu, The Olu of Epe and the Akran of Badagry.

Also Oba have their areas of jurisidiction but the Oba of Lagos is the Chairman of Lagos State council of obas permanently.

You guys should stop going into history you know little or nothing about.

Your knowledge of grading of Oba in Yoruba is so minute since you wrote Olubadan and soun of ogbomosho as the topmost obas in Yoruba land when a simple history book will tell you the 7 sons of Akanbi are the ones rated as such.

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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by BabaO2: 5:01pm On Apr 13, 2015
Jimi Chukwudifu Agbaje would have messed and destroyed this heritage by promoting one dirty ohaneze that has no history to the exalted position of first class oba in Lagos mere because of plate of porridge of elections.

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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 5:03pm On Apr 13, 2015
hercules07:


Shymmex and his Ibadan wahala, in truth, the Olubadan is not a first class Oba if we are to go by Yoruba tradition, he owes his allegiance to the Alaafin of Oyo. The Alaafin is the first of first class obas, he is followed by his brothers, as far as I am concerned the Ooni is not a first class Oba by our tradition, he is a babalawo or chief priest. The awujale should be accorded his rights as a first class Oba by Yoruba tradition as the ijebus were not really part of the hinterland yorubas and were great warriors.

This is how you derail sweet threads. angry

If you are ignorant of a fact, simply research it before you speak on it in public (or private for that matter).

The Royal Houses in Ife all descended from Oranmiyan when he came back to Ife, sacked the Ooni of that period and occupied the throne. He had sons, whose family compounds are in Ife till today.

Like, Eleko, the autochthonous people pre-Oduduwa run Ife day to day activities by areas they originally occupied.

Ooni as a post is not a chief priest in itself, he only oversees and plays some parts in the festivals done in Ife.

Being descendants of Oranmiyan and giving some of una kings sword of office makes Ooni a first class kingship title.

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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by logica(m): 5:04pm On Apr 13, 2015
seunfly:

Oboy!!!!! That name go fear you ooooo, you will know he is real traditional man. Esugbayi = Adoration to Satan or Satan has respect.
...if Satan = Esu, then God the Father = Obatala and Jesus = Oduduwa. wink
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by klevjey: 5:04pm On Apr 13, 2015
Rilwayne001:
The eleko of eko is not a ceremonial oba, contrary to what some ignoramus were spreading aroun.

Proudly yoruba cool



is he now in d lagoon?
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by boudinage: 5:04pm On Apr 13, 2015
When did the oba of benin become a yoruba king?
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 5:05pm On Apr 13, 2015
baby124:

I am lagosian and supposed to be offended. But o boy, I scatter laugh at Oba lil wayne grin grin grin cheesy. That Oba put real confusion in Lagos. Hahahaha
Why would you be offended. I am a Lagosian too, Niger-Delta Lagosian to be precise. Anyone that joins politics must be ready for the stones. Oba Lil Wayne is eating straight from the pots of Mrs Politicians and MUST have his fingers burnt when he doesnt allow the pudding to get cold before serving himself. We should burn their fingers, sometimes. Cos they think they are more than humans, its our collective responsibility to let them know that America was not developed because of respect to Obas. They have no Obas, these Obas are the ones bringing us down, by dining with corrupt politicians. The courts failed us, now the Elders in councils are failing us, cos they receive offers they cant refuse from the Corleone(s) of Lagos.

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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by newacca: 5:07pm On Apr 13, 2015
seunfly:

Oboy!!!!! That name go fear you ooooo, you will know he is real traditional man. Esugbayi = Adoration to Satan or Satan has respect.
Esu in this context is not satan. Esu is a deity in the Yoruba traditional religion, not the one described in your bible or Quran. Since those books were written in foreign language and the locals didn't find a matching name for it, and I guess cos Esu laalu himself was tricky and played pranks a lot, then he was attributed to be the devil. grin
Esu laalu, ogiri oko, ebora Tonje latoopa. Esu onile kogu kogun ona orun. Dudu lapakan, pupa lapakan. Esu mase mi oo. smiley mase enikankan wa OOO. Ase!

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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by somegirl1: 5:07pm On Apr 13, 2015
Babatundetinubu:
our culture is so rich.....in history n culture......maybe this is why the SE r d way they r...no known history...or culture... shocked

What is your history?
No oduduwa fairytales please.
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 5:08pm On Apr 13, 2015
haba! Olubadan is first class.

You've got to provide an undisputable source before I can agree otherwise.

Ibadan has the history of never losing a war in Yorubaland. What more qualifies any kingdom as a first and true class.

Ogun o ko wa ri (2ce)
Omo Ibadan i seru eni kookan
ogun o ko wari.

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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Firefire(m): 5:08pm On Apr 13, 2015
Mynd44:

What do you call a "First class king"? [b]There are only 5 or so first class kings in Yorubaland [/b]and the Oba of Lagos is not even one

I am interested to see/learn how you mean only 5 first Class kings in the entire Yorubaland?

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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by baby124: 5:08pm On Apr 13, 2015
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Billyonaire:
Why would you be offended. I am a Lagosian too, Niger-Delta Lagosian to be precise. Anyone that joins politics must be ready for the stones. Oba Lil Wayne is eating straight from the pots of Mrs Politicians and MUST have his fingers burnt when he doesnt allow the pudding to get cold before serving himself. We should burn their fingers, sometimes. Cos they think they are more than humans, its our collective responsibility to let them know that America was not developed because of respect to Obas. They have no Obas, these Obas are the ones bringing us down, by dining with corrupt politicians. The courts failed us, now the Elders in councils are failing us, cos they receive offers they cant refuse from the Corleone(s) of Lagos.
Don't push your luck. Niger-delta lagosian for where. You are Niger deltan, because when it is time to share oil money, you will forget that Lagos exists. Leave our traditional leaders for us. We know how to manage them. They are not going anywhere anytime soon. So get used to it. But truly, that Oba na gangster. Real one. He is a warrior type, which in truth may be needed for the present day Nigeria. Though most times he chops from all sides.

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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Abibanjo(m): 5:09pm On Apr 13, 2015
do (1630–1669) (son of Ashipa/Esikpa)[2][3]

Gabaro (1669–1704) [4]

Akinsemoyin (1704–1749) [4] or (c.1760-1775) [5]

Eletu Kekere (1749) [2]

Ologun Kutere / Ologunkutere / Ologunkuture (1749–1775) [2] or (1780-1801) [5] or until 1803 [6]

Adele Ajosun (1775-1780)[7][4] or (1801-1821) [5] or (1806-1813)[8][7]

Eshilokun / Esinlokun Ajan (1780–1819)[4] or (1821–1829)[5]

Idewu Ojulari (1819–1832) [4] or (1829-1835)[5]

Adele Ajosun (second term) (1832-1834) [4] or (1835-1837) [5][8][7]

Oluwole (1837-1841) [9][6]

Akintoye or Akitoye (1841-1845) [4][9][6]

Kosoko (1845–1851) [4][5][6]

Akintoye or Akitoye (second term) (1851-1853)[4]

Dosumu the Great (1853–1885) [4][9]


Oyekan (1885–1900)

Esugbayi Eleko (1901-1925 & 1932)

Ibikunle Aki(n)toye (1925–1928)

Sanusi Olusi (1928–1931)

Falolu (1932–1949)

Adeniji Adele (1949–1964)

Adeyinka Oyekan II (1965–2003)

Oba Rilwan Akiolu (2003 till date)
ti oba ba kan e a oh seyo lorishirishi ara ye a gbo. Sule Adisa OMO OBA NI.

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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by VickyRotex(f): 5:10pm On Apr 13, 2015
Now I see why Eleko1 said he is a ghost... lipsrsealed sad undecided
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 5:10pm On Apr 13, 2015
baby124:
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Don't push your luck. Niger-delta lagosian for where. You are Niger deltan, because when it is time to share oil money, you will forget that Lagos exists. Leave our traditional leaders for us. We know how to manage them. They are not going anywhere anytime soon. So get used to it. But truly, that Oba na gangster. Real one. He is a warrior type, which in truth may be needed for the present day Nigeria. Though most times he chops from all sides.
This discussion is NOT for women. Can you invite your husband to come and discuss this issue with me ? Thanks for respecting yourself in advance. Oba Lil Wayne needs my reprimand. He is a mere mortal and cant do some shit I do.
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Jowonloju(m): 5:10pm On Apr 13, 2015
DukeNija:


This man is definitely in Hell fire
That is not true,did you preach about Jesus to him! As long as no one preached to him, God will resurrect him, and allow him to listen to the Goodnews in the coming God's Kingdom, but if he then refuse, he will be cut off according to psalm 37;9.
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by OrlandoOwoh(m): 5:12pm On Apr 13, 2015
Mynd44:




Wrong. The Eleko of Eko is different from the Oba of Lagos but in a way similar. The difference is the control they have.

The Eleko's territory is limited to Lagos Island and environs but that changed when the constitution made the crown the head of all traditional crowns in Lagos state. At this point, the Oba of Lagos was coined as the Oba of Lagos is the Oba of Lagos State not just Lagos Island like the Eleko
You're wrong Lagos is different from Lagos State.

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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by logica(m): 5:12pm On Apr 13, 2015
Billyonaire:
This discussion is NOT for women. Can you invite your husband to come and discuss this issue with me ? Thanks for respecting yourself in advance. Oba Lil Wayne needs my reprimand. He is a mere mortal and cant do some shit I do.
Sorry, but in Yoruba culture, women are not excluded from discussions. smiley Yoruba culture is egalitarian; and our women had been voting long before Europeans discovered "Women's Rights". smiley

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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by SirShymexx: 5:14pm On Apr 13, 2015
TonySpike:


Hey Bro!

Big Toni Tone Spike, what is good?

I'm sorry I haven't finished with those research papers cos of work, and house hunting. Read the first one - but should be done with the other one by weekend.

How is life treating you, anyway?
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by ademusiwa7: 5:14pm On Apr 13, 2015
[size=18pt]there is no title call Eleko of Eko.. I cant laugh when I read this.. There is no such title call eleko of Eko.. you people are funny. The Oba of lagos(duke of Lagos) is just a oba(duke) like the over 500 obas(duke) we have in cities of the Independent country of the kingdom of Western nigeria.

Instead of civilian performing the function. My family had Obas perform the function, including ambassadorial function and others, this is the work of Obas(duke). They are not emperor or kings.. They are dukes of cities.. all over Independent country of the kingdom of Western nigeria.


We have Oba of abeokuta(now call Alake) Duke of Abeokuta
Oba of Ijebu ( now call awujale)Duke of Ijebu
Oba of Benin ( who did not change his name) Duke of Benin
Oba of Oyo ( who is now call alafin of Oyo) duke of Oyo
Oba of Okuku, duke of okuku
Oba of Iragbiji, duke of iragbiji
Oba of Inisa, duke of inisa
Oba of Eko-Ende, duke of eko ende
Oba of Oyan, duke of oyan
Oba of Oke Irun, duke of oke irun
Oba of Erin Osun duke of erin osun etc
we have several obas in towns , there are more than 1000 obas

it is the oba of a town, Which meand Duke of a town.. Dont call people eleko of eko. Call them Oba of Inisa, Oba of Iragbiji , Oba of owo, Oba of ore, Oba of Oyo, Oba of Offa..Oba of abeokuta, Oba of Ijebu ode, etc, this is the correct title


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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 5:15pm On Apr 13, 2015
Vintage Ise.

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