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Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by 3Ceagle(m): 9:45pm On Apr 16, 2015
Beamborla:
Let's start by destroying our MTN sim and it's okay if you don't renew your DSTV subscription

I share your believe. Since our government can't respond authoritatively. Then our people should should take the responsibility on them selves to pass a massage the SA government.
Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by hitleraldof(m): 9:51pm On Apr 16, 2015
and we nigerians re busy dividing ourselvesa along tribal and religious lines---i tell u sumtin da way u treat ur family is hw an outsider would treat same.....if a southafrican reads oba akintolas statement he feels o da igbos re used to victimisation and he goes ahead to misuse da nearest nigerian(afterall wat makes an igbo diff rm an hausa man)

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Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by MadCow1: 10:17pm On Apr 16, 2015
BTT:


Madcow, while you may be right about the lopsidedness of our military efforts, to claim that we are lesser than lame-ducks is to beg the issue. Wars are not like that. Well, that's discuss for another day.

First of all, I never used the word lame ducks, I simply said in terms of military hardware, South Africa outclasses Nigeria..

BTT:
Too sir, nothing wrong in bringing this info to frontpage. I couldn't stop being troubled by that video of children being burnt alive while the crowd watched and cheered. By your estimates, Tonto Dikeh's dogs and nipples would have been better.

Secondly, I said nothing about Tonyoh Dike and her dogs.. I simply pointed out how silly this thread is. Trying to compare the actions of one deranged South African and link it to a Company like DSTV that has made more input into Nigeria than any other cable satellite company in Nigeria and Africa is stupid as Fhuck.. Lame threads should not make the FRONTPAGE at the expense of more educative threads.

BTT:
Any business can be frustrated by the government. You think businesses are just run by the books, right? Looks like you still have so much to learn about business survival, Madcow.

Ofcourse any business can be frustrated out, it's nothing unknown to anyone.. However, who loses if DSTV leaves Nigeria? Answer is NIGERIANS.. NOLLYWOOD would lose billions, Nigerian Television stations like NTA, Silverbird, Channels, AIT, etc would lose billions. They lose that money, NIGERIANS lose their jobs. And I am not talking of the Thousands of people currently employed by DSTv or the other people who have benefitted from the multiple local shows like Idols and do hosted by DSTV. You may need to also broaden your mind on how business works as well.. The business of DStV in Nigeria is mutually beneficial.. Hundreds of Thousands of NIGERIANS make a living from DSTV.. If they leave, they still have over 15 African countries that they operate in. Kicking them out because one Mad fellow killed Lucky Dube mistaking him for a Nigerian is just utterly ridiculously foolish.

BTT:
Yes, you can carry out 'retributive killings' in Nigeria. In fact, anywhere. All it takes is for the home govt to turn a blind eye for some days while the madness lasted. Or just about even sponsor it. That we make the choice to be civil doesn't mean these things are impossible.

Well, go ahead then..

Does that make it okay? You want to act mad because some low level South Africans are acting mad? Go ahead.. However, legally, if caught, you would be tried for capital murder and your sentence would not be affected by the fact that your victim was South African.

BTT:
Madcow, is it with the name or something? You claim we can't pick a diplomatic row with South Africa over her citizens' senseless and unprovoked murdering of our citizens simply because their president mouthed some incoherent condemnation of the attacks without offering proper apologies and commitment on how this will not be repeated and perpetrators brought to justice. Pray, Madcow, what other reason is grave enough to pick a row than when your citizens' lives are on the line.

MadCow is a Moniker not my Name.. It's like me saying your name is BTT which it is not..

I have followed the news of the Recent xenophobic attacks in South Africa and funny enough, the people mostly affected are not Nigrians. The deaths recorded so far are South Africans killed by some Ethiopians and Somalis in self defence. The xenophobic attacks against NIGERIANS are everywhere.. In Ghana, my friends and I got mobbed by a village of over 30 people because I beat up a Ghanaian in a fight, when they realised I was a Nigerian, they started targeting all the NIGERIANS present at the scene. It took some wits and sheer guts to escape. Infact, even some of our Ghanaian school mates present joined in the mob. Now, does that make it okay for us back here to attack Ghanaians? NO!

I am sure the South African Government is not paying only lip service to this issue. The matter affects more Zimbabweans, Somalis, Ethiopians and Southern Africans more than it does NIGERIANS. The attacks are always reported, but the Justice part rarely makes the news.


BTT:
Your idea suggests that we are helpless and trapped in this barbarism spilled at our dignity as first, humanity, and of course, as Nigerians. Nothing can be further from the truth! Evil best prevails nowhere else than where ignorance as spilled here claims superiority.

The FHUCK are you on about now? Pardon my Swahili..

Your suggestion to stopping evil is to kill South Africans abi? And I am supposed to be the Mad cow. Go ahead and kill South Africans Na.. The people you would kill here are innocent. The solution to evil is not evil.

BTT:
Arguably too, Lucky Dube, can be considered as the second biggest global brand from SA barring Mandiiba. Yet, he was killed because some jack believed he was Nigerian. It could have been --anybody!

First of all.. Lucky Dube was attacked not because he was Nigerian, but because he was driving a fancy car that the perp wanted to steal. He only shot at him during the robbery because he thought he was a Nigerian. But be that as it may, it could have been anybody. He could have been killed for a number of reasons other than being Nigerian. Many people were killed in South Africa that day, chances are he would have been killed anyway wether he was South African or not.

Getting pissed off at the entire South Africa because a few South Africans are attacking Foreigners is like getting pissed off with all Muslims because BOKO Haram is killing non Muslims..

BTT:
We choose to be civil. Remember that no people have the monopoly of madness. After all, we share the same Barbarians' DNA. Someone must take responsibility for calling them to other.

Now.


We choose to be civil because it is the right thing to do and because we are not animals. Because retributive violence only begats more violence and sets in motion a vicious cycle of hate.. We choose to be civil because we are not as ignorant as those uneducated and primitive minded Zulu touts. We are civil because we know that the percentage to South Africans that share this Xenophobic mindset are very very small and thus negligible.

That is all that it is..

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Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by Beamborla(f): 10:34pm On Apr 16, 2015
3Ceagle:


I share your believe. Since our government can't respond authoritatively. Then our people should should take the responsibility on them selves to pass a massage the SA government.

I really wish our govt would do smth about it.
Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by no2fuks(m): 10:52pm On Apr 16, 2015
uselessgoat:
NIGERIANS STAY IN YOUR COUNTRY. NO PLACE LIKE HOME. SHIKENA undecided

id rather take my chances
Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by isaacfreeman99(m): 10:54pm On Apr 16, 2015
Breaking News!!! Tomorrow is D-Day for all foreign nationals. South Africans are planning a massive attack like never before! Please stay away from actonville, benoni town and other areas as they said to be entering into schools be save your children and keep them at home They will be stopping taxis and beating up all foreign nationals found. Help combat it by sending this message to all your contacts. Act NOW and FAST!!! The lives of our fellow Africans is at stake. ANCYL
Got this msg now I'm not sure if its true
Please read this and pass to your friends in SA, u might just save a life!! A train full of Zulus left Durban today, heading for Jhb and pretoria!! These man are armed and they are going to be killing any foreigner they meet tomorrow!! Please lets stand together and against this spirit of death that is gripping SA tomorrow! Please tell all your friends and relatives to avoid the following areas: Hillbrow, Berea, Carlton Centre, Northgate, eastgate, westgate, southgate, Cresta, Montecasino, Boksburg, Benoni, albertine!!! Please pass foward, u may just save a life!!!
Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by no2fuks(m): 11:04pm On Apr 16, 2015
MadCow1:


First of all, I never used the word lame ducks, I simply said in terms of military hardware, South Africa outclasses Nigeria..



Secondly, I said nothing about Tonyoh Dike and her dogs.. I simply pointed out how silly this thread is. Trying to compare the actions of one deranged South African and link it to a Company like DSTV that has made more input into Nigeria than any other cable satellite company in Nigeria and Africa is stupid as Fhuck.. Lame threads should not make the FRONTPAGE at the expense of more educative threads.



Ofcourse any business can be frustrated out, it's nothing unknown to anyone.. However, who loses if DSTV leaves Nigeria? Answer is NIGERIANS.. NOLLYWOOD would lose billions, Nigerian Television stations like NTA, Silverbird, Channels, AIT, etc would lose billions. They lose that money, NIGERIANS lose their jobs. And I am not talking of the Thousands of people currently employed by DSTv or the other people who have benefitted from the multiple local shows like Idols and do hosted by DSTV. You may need to also broaden your mind on how business works as well.. The business of DStV in Nigeria is mutually beneficial.. Hundreds of Thousands of NIGERIANS make a living from DSTV.. If they leave, they still have over 15 African countries that they operate in. Kicking them out because one Mad fellow killed Lucky Dube mistaking him for a Nigerian is just utterly ridiculously foolish.



Well, go ahead then..

Does that make it okay? You want to act mad because some low level South Africans are acting mad? Go ahead.. However, legally, if caught, you would be tried for capital murder and your sentence would not be affected by the fact that your victim was South African.



MadCow is a Moniker not my Name.. It's like me saying your name is BTT which it is not..

I have followed the news of the Recent xenophobic attacks in South Africa and funny enough, the people mostly affected are not Nigrians. The deaths recorded so far are South Africans killed by some Ethiopians and Somalis in self defence. The xenophobic attacks against NIGERIANS are everywhere.. In Ghana, my friends and I got mobbed by a village of over 30 people because I beat up a Ghanaian in a fight, when they realised I was a Nigerian, they started targeting all the NIGERIANS present at the scene. It took some wits and sheer guts to escape. Infact, even some of our Ghanaian school mates present joined in the mob. Now, does that make it okay for us back here to attack Ghanaians? NO!

I am sure the South African Government is not paying only lip service to this issue. The matter affects more Zimbabweans, Somalis, Ethiopians and Southern Africans more than it does NIGERIANS. The attacks are always reported, but the Justice part rarely makes the news.




The FHUCK are you on about now? Pardon my Swahili..

Your suggestion to stopping evil is to kill South Africans abi? And I am supposed to be the Mad cow. Go ahead and kill South Africans Na.. The people you would kill here are innocent. The solution to evil is not evil.



First of all.. Lucky Dube was attacked not because he was Nigerian, but because he was driving a fancy car that the perp wanted to steal. He only shot at him during the robbery because he thought he was a Nigerian. But be that as it may, it could have been anybody. He could have been killed for a number of reasons other than being Nigerian. Many people were killed in South Africa that day, chances are he would have been killed anyway wether he was South African or not.

Getting pissed off at the entire South Africa because a few South Africans are attacking Foreigners is like getting pissed off with all Muslims because BOKO Haram is killing non Muslims..



We choose to be civil because it is the right thing to do and because we are not animals. Because retributive violence only begats more violence and sets in motion a vicious cycle of hate.. We choose to be civil because we are not as ignorant as those uneducated and primitive minded Zulu touts. We are civil because we know that the percentage to South Africans that share this Xenophobic mindset are very very small and thus negligible.

That is all that it is..


so mad cow what is the solution seems like you know it all

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Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by ebread: 11:09pm On Apr 16, 2015
Dos guys r crazy,fu sayin dat kinda cooked up story,I gues de wer paid2 asasinate lucky dubei,god ll judge dem.
Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by MadCow1: 11:09pm On Apr 16, 2015
no2fuks:



so mad cow what is the solution seems like you know it all


I never claimed to know it all, but war is not an option and kicking DSTV and MTN out will be cutting our nose to spite our face.

Diplomacy is the best option.

From all indications and news reports so far, No Nigerian has been affected by the attacks and the attacks are not specific to just NIGERIANS alone if at all.

The embassy should be empowered to enter into dialogue with the South African government while doing all it can to help any affected NIGERIANS or even relocating them to temporary camps pending when the issue quells.
Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by Nobody: 11:13pm On Apr 16, 2015
It's dz kind of thing dat makes me like Buhari, Gej wud have wasted time and at the end it wud end up in talks, but for somebody like Buhari no too much talk but smtn wud happen.
Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by JiggamanGh: 11:21pm On Apr 16, 2015
Clone2020:
Shameful, the same way Nigerians are attacked in Ghana.

How many Nigetians are attacked in Ghana. 99.9% of nigerian deaths in Ghana are commited by Nigerians. Ghanaians and Nigerians rivalry don't ussually end in death. It's more like online bickering.
Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by no2fuks(m): 11:44pm On Apr 16, 2015
MadCow1:



I never claimed to know it all, but war is not an option and kicking DSTV and MTN out will be cutting our nose to spite our face.

Diplomacy is the best option.



Yo mad cow imma let you finish preaching but I just wanted to troll you are such an easy target I wonder why someone as intelligent as you choose to call yourself mad cow

Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by Nobody: 11:57pm On Apr 16, 2015
For me, we should have seen this coming a long time back but for the corrupt, inept and direction less prism through which the handlers of our foreign policy saw their brief. We failed to seize the golden moment for Nigeria when Nelson Mandela came into his own! Our management of the end of the apartheid years lacked creativity and proactivity so much so Nelson Mandela shut down and went to his grave appallingly disappointed at what Nigeria had become! I commend his utterances about Nigeria to my readers. All things being equal, Nigeria should have been his second home thus affording him and our leaders an opportunity to weld the two countries together for all time as partners and not bitter competitors we have now become culminating in this so called xenophobia.

My views on this issue may not be celebrated but it does indicate the rot goes deeper! For example, how many know that Thabo Mbeki should be able to find his way around Ojuelegba in Lagos unassisted and better than many Nigerians? Truth is, he and several other South Africans who later came into leadership positions in their country lived in Nigeria educated and fed on our bill because the apartheid regime longed to have them for breakfast!

When payback time came for Nigeria at the end of apartheid and commencement of black majority rule in South Africa and Thabo became President we did not leverage at all to have favours done them reciprocated. Instead our knees went weak and buckled at the altar of greed, corruption, avarice and unpatriotic zeal with our leaders cutting private deals with priviledged South Africans to compromise our wellbeing. The South Africans have so far played along as it suits them fine! What with mtn, shoprite, dstv et al reaping our large market to sustain their own economy.

The result was a large exodus of about 800,000 Nigerians to South Africa in search of a better life not in sight in Nigeria. The exodus has till date been largely unplanned, uncoordinated and without well articulated goals to further our homeland interests. Informed South Africans know all these and more - it therefore cuts no ice with them when we scream xenophobia and ingratitude in the face of current unsavoury happenings under review. We need to look inward instead!
Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by naijafresh: 12:22am On Apr 17, 2015
Bad market
Bad karma
Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by bazuka001(m): 12:44am On Apr 17, 2015
yorke1:
I don't comment on stu.pid thread.
You just did
Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by iamord(m): 1:24am On Apr 17, 2015
JiggamanGh:


How many Nigetians are attacked in Ghana. 99.9% of nigerian deaths in Ghana are commuted by Nigerians. Ghanaians and Nigerians rivalry don't ussually end in death. It's more like online bickering.
that dude has definitely not been to Ghana. The only idea of the place e and people is hear say. Smh

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Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by Hadecaller(f): 5:30am On Apr 17, 2015
Despite our likeness for u...we honour one of d world leader(nelson mandela)....we mourn the mine workers massacre(i wept when i saw d footage).....fought during injustice against ur country(apartheid) yet u repay d africa countries with being xenophobic.....!!!am A NIGERIAN AND AM NOT XENOPHOBIC
Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by lilcashking(m): 6:12am On Apr 17, 2015
[quote author=Gejpresident post=32792199]Islam Islam Islam



God why?[/quot e] are u out of your sense what islam has to do with these,is south african a muslim country?
Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by babzlim(m): 7:05am On Apr 17, 2015
I laugh in TOGO.... Hw can we be respected or valued when knowing ur right in this COUNTRY is a crime.... How can we be valued when our leaders doesn't even have regards for our Lifes. I BEG TALK ANOTHER THING.

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Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by mizzsmilez(f): 7:06am On Apr 17, 2015
Why would anyone think Lucky Dube is Nigerian?
People will never get past their evil minds and flimsy excuses of having same.

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Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by mizright(f): 8:02am On Apr 17, 2015
Story of d tick and d dog d dog thinks he is hurting d dog but forgets if d dog dies dey are giong 2geda tongue
Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by gbishman: 8:31am On Apr 17, 2015
Nigerians lets not be cowards, i encourage and admonish all Nigerians to dump and their MTN lines and lets se if they won't come to their knees and beg. if that doesnt work we dump DSTV too.
Thats the way to go, enough is enough
Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by Nobody: 8:40am On Apr 17, 2015
Its common knowledge that southafricans hate foreigners especially Africans from other countries, and emphatically Nigerians.
Nigerian business, and workers are attacked daily and the SA govts incites them, out govt looks the other way while many perish, the soclled senate............on diaspora only go to SA on shopping spree they dont care about Nigerian who are maltreated in SA.
Its shameful and sad.

Multichoice , mtn and spars are makin a killing here and we luv for it, people go to dstv prostrate for suscription renewal.

sic... angry

Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by Nobody: 8:43am On Apr 17, 2015
gbishman I feel you and concur, its high time we boycott the boycott-ables, av burned my dstv decoder.

Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by Belmot(m): 9:12am On Apr 17, 2015
MadCow1:



it still makes no sense to me..

A killer said he killed Lucky Dube because he thought he was Nigerian.. That is fine. It simply means the killer had a thing against Nigerians.. That does not mean ALL South Africans want to kill Nigerains nor does it have anything to do with DSTV..

The OP is trying to find a correlation between 1 killer and DSTV which is a Company..


The thread sounds like what drunkards inside a Beer Palour would be discussing..
The killers of lucky dube are not south africans, they are from mozambique........ Our people can be ignorant at times.
Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by Belmot(m): 9:29am On Apr 17, 2015
Clone2020:
Shameful, the same way Nigerians are attacked in Ghana.
Bros. Why you dey package lie for here, ghanaians don't attack nigerians... But them sabi insult us sha.

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Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by Emmyk(m): 9:52am On Apr 17, 2015
This news is older than Methuselah. cheesy

The guy that shot Dube is even a Zimbabwean...
Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by osystein(m): 12:25pm On Apr 17, 2015
Emmyk:
This news is older than Methuselah. cheesy

The guy that shot Dube is even a Zimbabwean...

He's Mozambican, the other one south African.
Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by Geesanni: 12:36pm On Apr 17, 2015
O BOI U TOO DULL OOO.NO WONDA U CALL UR SELF MAD COW. NO B ME TALK AM NA U TALK AM.IMAGINE D TRASH U RE SPITTING OUT.U B SHAME TO URSELF ND UR FAMILY.A TOTAL DISGRACE TO D BLACK RACE ESPECIALLY WERE U COME FRM,COS I GUESS U RE NT FRM NIGERIA
MadCow1:



1. You can't shut down South African businesses as long as they are operating within the Laws of Nigeria, pay taxes and observe all due deligence.

2. You can't carry out retributive killings as anybody who kills anybody in Nigeria would go to jail.

3. If Nigeria declares war on South Africa, we would lose.. Remember that it was South Africa that we were trying to buy weapons from to defeat a small band of terrorists like Boko Haram. Their Army has more than enough weapons to destroy all our Army bases from afar without putting one soldier on our soil.

4. You can't start a diplomatic row with a Nation like South Africa over xenophobic attacks led by a handful of useless Zulus. Their president has spoken on the matter and condemned it. Plus the current attacks were targeting more Zimbabweans, Somalis and Ethiopians than Nigerians.

5. The South African economy does not need Nigeria. How many Nigerian businesses are strategic to the South African economy? Meanwhile, our telecoms, Satellite television and more are being run by Souh Africans.


This thread is so off point it's neauseating.


Cc: Seun, Mukina2, Ishilove and other Nairaland Mods.. Stop putting such foolish threads on the Frontpage. It makes this website look stupid.
Re: – Man Who Shot South African Lucky Dube Says He Thought He Was A Nigerian. by iamord(m): 12:55pm On Apr 17, 2015
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