kay9:


...Actually, you can't. Whether your wife or not, any day she says "no", you'd be well-adviced to steer clear. Ask any lawyer.

Sansa's case is a sore pickle because she willingly walked into it and stayed there to take it, even though we the audience know that she would rather not. I still think its rape, but hey that's just my opinion. Its all these folks screaming blue murder that I'm just pissed at - why didn't they raise as much hew-haw when Theon was almost sodomized and then castrated like a pig? People should just relax and enjoy the show.

People just love garnering sympathy for women who do not give 2fuccks about them being castrated. Nonsensical I must say.

themodernman:


You're not well informed brother...I on the other hand have been tutored as a medical student under the foremost renowned forensic expert during med school...who confirmed: THERE IS NO RAPE IN MARRIAGE....of course you can hold on to your sentimental view to gather more likes & shares here but that won't change the bitter truth...what is not acceptable is you assaulting & battering her b4 you do it...but anything sexual is legal cos there's nothing like consent in marital sex...if she's fed she should file for divorce shikena. The same way a man cannot be raped legally as it's still restricted to females for now...so even if a girl drugs & rapes you, you do not have a case! Man up & stop being sentimental.

Sansa's case was different (it wasn't rape!) but I have to say you don't know what you are talking about; marital rape is criminalised in about 105 countries today, go to places like the US and force yourself on your wife and see if you won't be cooling your heels in prisons like Sing Sing.

And yes men can and do get raped by women. Was it not early this month that the story broke that a man was raped by 3 women in South Africa? A few years ago a business man was raped to death in Benue state by 5 of his wives. These things happen.

Open a fresh thread to trash this matter out so you don't derail this one.

gj22:


It wasn't. By custom, man must bed wife night of marriage. She knew this and still agreed to marry him so by extension agreed to have sex with him later on.

It was not rape.

Jamie and cerci sex scene beside geoffrey's corpse is a better rape debate than this.

That Jamie & Cerci scene was crazy...imagine Joefrrey's corpse shaking because they were pounding away his mother's punany...choi! I tot same scene was gonna happen on Tywin's corpse make we just know sey dem family don Mad like the Targayreans.

Dragonking:


Are you sure you arent watching game of thrones (naija version)

Taken against her will my foot. Sansa walked with her two feet to marry Ramsay..Walked with him to the bedroom and when she was told to bend down(doggy style) she complied. So where is the rape

You dey mind d mumu girl...hin think sey Ramsay na like Gentle Tyrion...if she know earlier sey Ramsay cut person Theon prickkk she for don prepare herself for d worst.

hertz9te:
.......what is rape?......havin of sex from someone with their mutual consent.......understand this definition and tell me is not rape again

stop confusing ursef and check the definition of rape; The crime, typically committed by a man, of forcing another person to have sexual intercourse with the offender against their will..

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/rape

Ask yourself, was sansa forced against her will? Why did she willingly bend down when Ramsay told her to do so?

Pls get ur emotions right and stop calling it rape.

themodernman:


You dey mind d mumu girl...hin think sey Ramsay na like Gentle Tyrion...if she know earlier sey Ramsay cut person Theon prickkk she for don prepare herself for d worst.

I said it that sansa no get sense...she just they do like mumu...by the time Ramsay use Im big dickk scatter her shallow brain she will wake up.

ApexTitan:


Sansa's case was different (it wasn't rape!) but I have to say you don't know what you are talking about; marital rape is criminalised in about 105 countries today, go to places like the US and force yourself on your wife and see if you won't be cooling your heels in prisons like Sing Sing.

And yes men can and do get raped by women. Was it not early this month that the story broke that a man was raped by 3 women in South Africa? A few years ago a business man was raped to death in Benue state by 5 of his wives. These things happen.

Open a fresh thread to trash this matter out so you don't derail this one.

You can say the man was raped but its a misnomer in a court of law as rape is still reserved for women...no one is derailing the thread here cos its still very much related to Sansa who majority still believe was raped...we need to understand what rape is which is what I'm trying to do....in most countries in west africa there's nothing like Marital rape which is my point of view...a man being "raped" by his 5wives I repeat has no case in court as it's still reserved for women.

themodernman:


That Jamie & Cerci scene was crazy...imagine Joefrrey's corpse shaking because they were pounding away his mother's punany...choi! I tot same scene was gonna happen on Tywin's corpse make we just know sey dem family don Mad like the Targayreans.

that family na mad family.. imaging brother and sister pounding themselves near their dead son's body. Their own abomination is beyond this world.

@ themodernman
OK I get it now, the operative words here are "in your view". The only problem is that the courts of law in this country don't share your view.

I'm with you on the Sansa not raped camp though.

ApexTitan:


Let us call it a heartless taking. Wicked poking, beating that asś up really nasty. Deserve to go to hell banging, even-the-devil-will-be-shocked-sèx but we can't call it rape because of her consent

I love this reply.

ApexTitan:
@ themodernman
OK I get it now, the operative words here are "in your view". The only problem is that the courts of law in this country don't share your view.

I'm with you on the Sansa not raped camp though.

If "in your view" is d way you insist on getting me.....you're entirely entitled to that...however what's obtainable in most courts here in West Africa is what I'm telling you and it has nothing to do with how you feel or think about it. Dazzol....where to have a good laugh is in most courts here in Nigeria on marital issues then you'll see what I'm talking about.

I was losing interest in this boring season, but then I heard that someone is getting doggied. I had to download but at the end of the day, feeling so disappointed.
The boring season with half baked episodes continues

Dragonking:


I said it that sansa no get sense...she just they do like mumu...by the time Ramsay use Im big dickk scatter her shallow brain she will wake up.

themodernman:


You dey mind d mumu girl...hin think sey Ramsay na like Gentle Tyrion...if she know earlier sey Ramsay cut person Theon prickkk she for don prepare herself for d worst.

You know, that is just the worst case of victim blaming. She was unable to consent, she didn't say no. That don't mean it wan't rape.

JoshuaKay:

Yeah, u can say dat again. However, it's his level of intelligence dat attracted him to me.

Hello joshua kay, i av sent d stuff u requested to ur mail. D post where u quoted has been removed so i decided to use dis one.

themodernman:


You're not well informed brother...I on the other hand have been tutored as a medical student under the foremost renowned forensic expert during med school...who confirmed: THERE IS NO RAPE IN MARRIAGE....of course you can hold on to your sentimental view to gather more likes & shares here but that won't change the bitter truth...what is not acceptable is you assaulting & battering her b4 you do it...but anything sexual is legal cos there's nothing like consent in marital sex...if she's fed she should file for divorce shikena. The same way a man cannot be raped legally as it's still restricted to females for now...so even if a girl drugs & rapes you, you do not have a case! Man up & stop being sentimental.

Dude what rock have you been living under?

ApexTitan:


Sansa's case was different (it wasn't rape!) but I have to say you don't know what you are talking about; marital rape is criminalised in about 105 countries today, go to places like the US and force yourself on your wife and see if you won't be cooling your heels in prisons like Sing Sing.

And yes men can and do get raped by women. Was it not early this month that the story broke that a man was raped by 3 women in South Africa? A few years ago a business man was raped to death in Benue state by 5 of his wives. These things happen.

Open a fresh thread to trash this matter out so you don't derail this one.

Don't mind the cave man.

Gbola5:




You know, that is just the worst case of victim blaming. She was unable to consent, she didn't say no. That don't mean it wan't rape.

When she got married to Ramsay, did anybody force her to say 'yes I do'? Did Ramsay force her to bend down? Answer these questions honestly to enable u see d factual truth here..it ain't rape bro.

ITbomb:
I was losing interest in this boring season, but then I heard that someone is getting doggied. I had to download

badt guy...see ur life..

The virgin of the north is getting doggied on her honeymoon, but her fans are crying about it.

kay9:


Dude what rock have you been living under?

Ask d gods.

I've given up on this. Let's move on, new topic.

zicoy6k:
Hello joshua kay, i av sent d stuff u requested to ur mail. D post where u quoted has been removed so i decided to use dis one.

OK, thanks.

Dragonking:


When she got married to Ramsay, did anybody force her to say 'yes I do'? Did Ramsay force her to bend down? Answer these questions honestly to enable u see d factual truth here..it ain't rape bro.

Stop wasting your time explaining to someone who will never see things in your point of view...everyone is entirely entitled to their opinions in life.

Gbola5:
Marital rape is still rape. Even though they did at at the time(and its not ancient, its medieval times). But its still considered rape whether they're married or not. But Dany started to develop from there, it became part of her development story in the show. Sansa's was unneccessary, it doesnt mean that she will also develop from there also. She's always the victim, and part of her character growth was to stop being the victim and take charge. She had gone through pain enough, she didnt need this as another booster. They were already showing signs of this in s4, when she walks down the stairs in the Eyrie, when she was looking confident, and now she becomes a victim again. Ofcourse she will grow from here, as most of you use to defend the scene, but rape shouldnt be the catalyst, no more than the death of her family.

Good luck arguing that in court. You marry a woman and she doesn't want to have sex with you, you can force her to because by law, she signed a contract (marriage) and must honor the agreement. I have argued this with a law student before.

Also, she is not a victim anymore. She is doing whatever it takes to further her agenda (whatever it may be). This is one of the reasons why I say she wasn't raped.

Let me clarify a bit, a wife has no legal right to starve her husband of sex for an unreasonable reason e.g am a virgin (like sansa). And also, the man must not apply extreme force else he will be charged for battering (still not rape).

Sansa is just doing whatever it takes to have her revenge or whatever. That is one of the reasons I think she wasn't raped. She knowingly walked into that herself knowing fully well what was required of her.

Also, marriage is a contract and sex comes with the package. A woman cannot deny her husband sexual relations unreasonably. She has to honor the agreement.

Please let us end this argument and move on.

Let's just agree to disagree on this Sansa rape issue.Its derailing this thread and making it boring.The more important thing to discuss is "Is Sansa in control of her game or has she returned to Sansa s01-03?"

So the man can't deny the woman sex when she wants, as well? Or does it, as usual,apply only to d woman?

Kaycee7:
So the man can't deny the woman sex when she wants, as well? Or does it, as usual,apply only to d woman?

It applies both ways but you being a guy knows that a man that doesn't want to have sex, cannot have sex. Well, unless he takes viagra or something but that's besides the point.

That scene showed us what sansa has "grown" to become. It was not meant to show her as a victim but to show how she has evolved from the scared girl who's daddy was murdered in Winterfell to the strong girl who will do whatever it takes to get her way.

gj22:


... You marry a woman and she doesn't want to have sex with you, you can force her to because by law, she signed a contract (marriage) and must honor the agreement...
I have argued this with a law student before.

And how did that argument turn out?
Your statements in italics above is oozing with so much ignorance. Do yourself a favor, google "marital rape".

kay9:


And how did that argument turn out?
Your statements in italics above is oozing with so much ignorance. Do yourself a favor, google "marital rape".

Do yourself a favour and apply common sense.

Marital rape is not a crime in nigeria (check the listed countries on the Wikipedia page). I said I argued with a law student. Obviously a Nigerian law student.

Marital rape is not recognised in many countries and nigeria is one of them. There is something called conjugal rights in marriage which is a right to sex. And like I said in a previous post (probably the one you quoted but you edited it), a wife cannot deny her husband of sex for an unreasonable reason. He can force her to so far he doesn't apply extreme force in which case he will be charged with assault.

Is there still argument about this ?. I think the thing that people are bothered about isnt that she was raped(or not raped however you see it) but that her losing her virginity is like a plot device.

Gbola5:
Is there still argument about this ?. I think the thing that people are bothered about isnt that she was raped(or not raped however you see it) but that her losing her virginity is like a plot device.

Jon snow's virginity, sam's sexuality were all used as plot devices. I don't hear anybody complaining about all that.

People are just complaining because the show runners are deviating from the books and they don't like it. They don't like it because they won't be able to rub it in anyone's face anymore about how superior they are because they have read the books.

They think George Martins way is the only good way to tell a story and that it is the holy grail so any thing added or removed from it is an abomination.