texanomaly:


None of this compares to human intelligence or consciousness. My point is...I'm don't believe Man will ever be able to completely engineer human emotions from A.I. If we are talking machines that can learn, we are already there.

Well your beliefs can't tell the truth of things no matter how strongly. .the evidence speaks for itself and so far A.I can intelligently mimick a human to certain extents which can be improved upon in the near future.

AllNaijaBlogger:



We didnt have a cure for many diseases 30 years ago........and yet we managed to find a cure for those diseases.

Why don't you say HIV/AIDS? We will conquer it and conquer cancer!

Faith is not only meant for worshiping God. God is in all humans.....sometimes, you need faith in the human ingenuity.

I'll give you the bolded. btw HIV/AIDS is manageable with treatment now. There is no cure.

texanomaly:


I'll give you the bolded. btw HIV/AIDS is manageable with treatment now. There is no cure.

Actually no virus is ever "cured" but managed/weakened, 8% of your DNA is viral DNA dating back to every viral infection any of your ancestors ever had...

davien:
Well your beliefs can't tell the truth of things no matter how strongly. .the evidence speaks for itself and so far A.I can intelligently mimick a human to certain extents which can be improved upon in the near future.

Emphasis on the bolded.

AllNaijaBlogger:



I would ask the robot to describe a random song. Or I could make up a song and ask the robot for the mood. You cant program against what you cannot anticipate.

we are talking of a human level intelligent robot here it doesnt have to be specifically programmed to answer a specific question it can make inferences and reason just like a human or even better and faster without it being conscious.it will easily come up with an answer.

texanomaly:


I'll give you the bolded. btw HIV/AIDS is manageable with treatment now. There is no cure.

There will be a cure. We have found people immune to HIV. Just a matter of finding out why and how.

When it comes right down to it your questions are legitimate ones, if there ever comes a day they need to be asked. I'll take a watch and wait stance until/if this becomes an issue.

texanomaly:


Emphasis on the bolded.

Again this is a non-sequitor as that is its intended purpose...just like planes mimick birds..you are grasping at straws here.

All you've been doing is pointing the obvious...what else would something artificial do but mimick the natural?....

And as is common...artificial concepts can be improved upon to surpass the natural in one or more ways...

AllNaijaBlogger:



There will be a cure. We have found people immune to HIV. Just a matter of finding out why and how.

some have a mutant variant of the centres HIV/aids attacks...so no response to the virus is shown...

tartar9:
we are talking of a human level intelligent robot here it doesnt have to be specifically programmed to answer a specific question it can make inferences and reason just like a human or even better and faster without it being conscious.it will easily come up with an answer.

No, I don't think so.

You do not understand the meaning of "abstract". A computer cannot answer abstract questions, especially if they are random.

davien:
Again this is a non-sequitor as that is its intended purpose...just like planes mimick birds..you are grasping at straws here.

All you've been doing is pointing the obvious...what else would something artificial do but mimick the natural?....

And as is common...artificial concepts can be improved upon to surpass the natural in one or more ways...

Planes don't mimic birds. They use the same aerodynamic rules. They are dissimilar in almost every other way except that they both have wings. This is not a good example. Planes don't fly themselves. Even on autopilot they are programmed to do so. Who is grasping at straws now?

You seem to be under the misconception that I don't believe AI is a viable possibility. On the contrary there have been significant advances toward that end. I don't however believe Man will ever come up with an option near what actual humans are.


Oh and if all I've pointed out is so obvious, why do you feel the need to continue debating me.

AllNaijaBlogger:


No, I don't think so.

You do not understand the meaning of "abstract". A computer cannot answer abstract questions, especially if they are random.

Yup

texanomaly:


Planes don't mimic birds. They use the same aerodynamic rules. They are dissimilar in almost every other way except that they both have wings. This is not a good example. Planes don't fly themselves. Even on autopilot they are programmed to do so. Who is grasping at straws now?

Please refer to the picture below with a definition of mimick...the object or thing mimicked does not necessarily have to be an exact replica...that has been your failure in logic from the onset,the idea that the thing mimicked should be 100℅ like the original else a fail..

You seem to be under the misconception that I don't believe AI is a viable possibility. On the contrary there have been significant advances toward that end. I don't however believe Man will ever come up with an option near what actual humans are.

And why is that?

Oh and if all I've pointed out is so obvious, why do you feel the need to continue debating me.

I reckon the same reason you had to reply me in the first place..

texanomaly:


The difference between stupidit.y and genius is that genius has its limits.
~Albert Einstein

Einstein. But wouldn't that make stupidit.y the better, that is, in terms of depth and intelligent, of the two?

Nice discussion guys. I'm enjoying it.

Reyginus:
Einstein. But wouldn't that make stupidit.y the better, that is, in terms of depth and intelligent, of the two?

Nice discussion guys. I'm enjoying it.

It's actually a put down. It is basically saying there is no end to your stupidity. Unfortunately there is no cure fo stu.pid.

AllNaijaBlogger:


No, I don't think so.

You do not understand the meaning of "abstract". A computer cannot answer abstract questions, especially if they are random.

no computer yet can do it.but its possible.

davien:
Please refer to the picture below with a definition of mimick...the object or thing mimicked does not necessarily have to be an exact replica...that has been your failure in logic from the onset,the idea that the thing mimicked should be 100℅ like the original else a fail..

And why is that?

I reckon the same reason you had to reply me in the first place..

It all comes down to how we define AI and consciousness. Doesn't it?

texanomaly:


It all comes down to how we define AI and consciousness. Doesn't it?

Yes and whether humans really do make unconscious actions,thoughts and so far findings go against that common belief..

texanomaly:


It's actually a put down. It is basically saying there is no end to your stupidity. Unfortunately there is no cure fo stu.pid.

Okay. Ride on.

AllNaijaBlogger:



There are so many horrors that modern technology can do that surpass what is written in revelations. And by the way, revelations is supposed to be metaphorical and not literal.

I agree that scientists are below God but I still do not underestimate them.

my dear brethren there is nothing metaphorical about the book of revealation.
The writer of that book merely wrote from his limited understanding of the revealation based on his state of global development he was exposed to. He likened implanted micro chips to mark of the beast, nuclear blast to worm wood star, global database and E-commerce etc. You dont expect him to know more than his generation. With enough tech background and Holy Spirit understanding book of revealation will be a childs play.

plaetton:


Did You say Occultic scientist?

Dude, you're probably a computer technician, not, definitely not a computer scientist.
Your vocabulary betrays you.

By the way, what is a computer scientist?

so you are not aware of existence of occultic scientists.
I am sure the devil is glad to know that.
He delights in your ignorance. A word is enough for the wise.
Most of what you celebrate in science in Nigeria is as a result of your backwardness, they are still light years away from Gods Majesty, His Scientific Name according non-ocultic scientists is INFINITE INTELLIGENCE.
Have u ever taken a time to dissect a CPU, and see how ordinary it looks. A mere manipulation of silicon, one of most abundant element in nature is making spew rubish against your creator. What a shame

waldigit:

so you are not aware of existence of occultic scientists.
I am sure the devil is glad to know that.
He delights in your ignorance. A word is enough for the wise.
Most of what you celebrate in science in Nigeria is as a result of your backwardness, they are still light years away from Gods Majesty, His Scientific Name according non-ocultic scientists is INFINITE INTELLIGENCE.
Have u ever taken a time to dissect a CPU, and see how ordinary it looks. A mere manipulation of silicon, one of most abundant element in nature is making spew rubish against your creator. What a shame

Lol.
Another half-wit and his assemblage of convoluted nonsense.

Computer scientist my foot.

plaetton:

Lol.
Another half-wit and his assemblage of convoluted nonsense.

Computer scientist my foot.

tartar9:
no computer yet can do it.but its possible.

The computer would have to be conscious in the first place to answer those questions

AllNaijaBlogger:



Really? Is that what you believe.

I wish you could see into the future 500 years from now.


You would have the same look that my cousins from the village had when I showed them how bluetooth radio media works in my car

I won't. Genius is limited by logical and physical laws, availability of materials, plausibility of a technological or scientific feat etc. Genius may have made bluetooth radio but it sure as hell cannot make conscious beings or resurrect decomposed corpses.

UyiIredia:


I won't. Genius is limited by logical and physical laws, availability of materials, plausibility of a technological or scientific feat etc. Genius may have made bluetooth radio but it sure as hell cannot make conscious beings or resurrect decomposed corpses.

Let's take the most difficult thing you mentioned that the human genius cannot do- ressurect decomposed corpses.


This is the kind of thinking that gets people nowhere. There are many ways to surpass a limit.

Sure, we can't bring dead people back to life but one can cheat death through constant cellular regeneration and cloning. These are scientific ideas that we keep improving at. These ideas will make the idea of resurrecting decomposed corpses obsolete because there wouldnt be dead corpses if everyone could regenerate him/herself.

Think about that.

Your thinking is limited and so is your outlook on science.

AllNaijaBlogger:



We didnt have a cure for many diseases 30 years ago........and yet we managed to find a cure for those diseases.

And there are still many diseases that existed then we don't have a cure for AIDS, cancer, diabetes and even common cold (with cough and catarrh) have no cure.

AllNaijaBlogger:
Why don't you say HIV/AIDS? We will conquer it and conquer cancer!

Easier said than done. By the way, they should conquer common cold while they are at it.

AllNaijaBlogger:
Faith is not only meant for worshiping God. God is in all humans.....sometimes, you need faith in the human ingenuity.

The problem with some people is that they don't realize there are limits to what man can do. This is why absurd notions like time travel, artificial life, artificial consciousness etc are taken seriously.

UyiIredia:


And there are still many diseases that existed then we don't have a cure for AIDS, cancer, diabetes and even common cold (with cough and catarrh) have no cure.




Easier said than done. By the way, they should conquer common cold while they are at it.




The problem with some people is that they don't realize there are limits to what man can do. This is why absurd notions like time travel, artificial life, artificial consciousness etc are taken seriously.

Practically, common cold has been conquered because it won't kill you and it becomes harmless after minor treatment. We are making progress with AIDs and cancer. Dont be ignorant in the milestones we have made for those two diseases.


Time-travel is already possible, it is just not in the way of movies.

lepasharon:
Lol...Have you been watching that TV show humans ?

It has been renewed for season 2
http://allnaijablog.com/sci-fi-show-humans-renewed-for-a-second-season

AllNaijaBlogger:


Let's take the most difficult thing you mentioned that the human genius cannot do- ressurect decomposed corpses.


This is the kind of thinking that gets people nowhere. There are many ways to surpass a limit.

Sure, we can't bring dead people back to life but one can cheat death through constant cellular regeneration and cloning. These are scientific ideas that we keep improving at. These ideas will make the idea of resurrecting decomposed corpses obsolete because there wouldnt be dead corpses if everyone could regenerate him/herself.

Think about that.
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Your thinking is limited and so is your outlook on science.

You are being stup*d at this point. Some limits are insurmountable, physical laws for example are limits. Cloning doesn't in any way cheat death, clones are different persons from the original. Twins are clones in the sense that they have entirely similar genes and yet many people know that twins are uniquely different people in their mentality and behaviour. Cellular regeneration is more plausible and could slow down or stop aging but not death from other causes like fatal diseases.

Your thinking is fanciful and so is your outlook on science. You need a reset with the reality.

AllNaijaBlogger:




Practically, common cold has been conquered because it won't kill you and it becomes harmless after minor treatment. We are making progress with AIDs and cancer. Dont be ignorant in the milestones we have made for those two diseases.


Time-travel is already possible, it is just not in the way of movies.

Common cold is harmless. One doesn't need treatment to make it harmless.

Now humor me with what makes time-travel possible.

UyiIredia:


You are being stup*d at this point. Some limits are insurmountable, physical laws for example are limits. Cloning doesn't in any way cheat death, clones are different persons from the original. Twins are clones in the sense that they have entirely similar genes and yet many people know that twins are uniquely different people in their mentality and behaviour. Cellular regeneration is more plausible and could slow down or stop aging but not death from other causes like fatal diseases.

Your thinking is fanciful and so is your outlook on science. You need a reset with the reality.

I hope you know that physical laws are mostly useless at the quantum level? Stop being myopic. Imagine the progress we will make when we fully understand the quantum world.

Cellular regeneration is different from stopping aging.


Calm down and believe