Cutehector:
The word was with God, and the word was God...



Who is the word? Jesus .. That's right


I and my father are one... Said by christ right...


Dat means, d father dwells in the son and the son dwells in the father...


So therefor, if christ is in me, and I am in christ, doesn't it make me one with him?


Op? Dnt read d bible with ur human intellect ok.. U won't grasp the true message

victorels:


From Your subsequent posts, it implies you are anti-Christ.
But if you must know, God took different form for different environment.

The scripture made it clear that God is a Spirit. In the Beginning, the face of the earth was covered by water and the Spirit of God moved over the surface of the waters.
After Creation, God took a new form regarded as word or voice or sound which can relate to man whom he made a physical entity.

For God to redeem man from sin, he decided to take a new form which is visible to man and walked among them.

God is God and remains one no matter the form he took as long as he is the Everlasting Father.

Your trying to corrupt the word with you philosophy or psychology cannever remove the feet of the saints from their God.

victorels:


From Your subsequent posts, it implies you are anti-Christ.
But if you must know, God took different form for different environment.

The scripture made it clear that God is a Spirit. In the Beginning, the face of the earth was covered by water and the Spirit of God moved over the surface of the waters.
After Creation, God took a new form regarded as word or voice or sound which can relate to man whom he made a physical entity.

For God to redeem man from sin, he decided to take a new form which is visible to man and walked among them.

God is God and remains one no matter the form he took as long as he is the Everlasting Father.

Your trying to corrupt the word with you philosophy or psychology cannever remove the feet of the saints from their God.

Jozzy4:


Your own concept of God is even worse .

Since God has come down , Who is God praying to again? .. Another God ?

Jeromejnr:


Just look at what you wrote. How does it make sense. When Jesus said the Father is greater than I, was He greater than Himself, or was Jesus talking to Himself when He cried out on the cross "why the Father had forsaken Him?

Na wa o.

John 1:1-3
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

victorels:


Jesus was referred to as the "Word of God" in Revelations . He is a different Entity from the Father. He is the voice of the Lord in the Garden of Eden as well as in the creation. And He is God that became flesh having a kind of Glory even as of the only Begotten of the Father.

His Question is about God Praying to God. Yes. Jesus, God, Prayed to the Father, God.

The Information I wanted Him to understand is that The Father and Son are One. Jesus created all things According to John 1:1-3. That is why He loved His creatures so dearly to give Himself for them.

Convince me that Jesus wasn't the God of Creation that I talked about.

victorels:


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If you understand the mystery of God, you will not argue much about the "Word" and God.

God is Omnipresent. He can be anywhere anytime. He can be in different form at the same time.

The angel of the Lord Appeared to Moses In the Burning Bush yet God spoke to Moses out of the Burning Bush.

God Led the Israelites in a pillar of fire by Night and of Cloud by Day yet the scripture still made it clear that only one Angel was sent to liberate the Israelites from Egypt.

God is seated in heaven and His emissaries are all over the universe doing His will in form of Angels (For Spiritual Emissaries) and Prophets (FOR Human Emissaries)

Every thing That Happen about Jesus Praying to the father is for us to believe that God was in Christ Reconciling Men to Himself. When Jesus Prayed to call forth Lazarus from the death, he [/s]

Jozzy4:

Sorry , just answer my question: who is God praying to ? Another God ?

victorels:

Sorry I have no Answer for you. The answer you are looking for can further destroy. I don't want to be responsible for that.

An2elect2:


You sound like a Unitarian.

victorels:

I don't know what that is. But I won't give him a yes and No answer so that he would rejoice in his iniquity. For some one that ask question just to mock your God, giving such a one answer embolden him to do more.
If he understand what the Father, the son means, he would not be asking such question. There are reasonable questions that atheist can ask and one would want to give light to them.

An2elect2:


Unitarianism is simply the belief that God is numerically one and has revealed himself in so many ways such as the Father, Son and the Holy spirit.

Didn't know the Op is an atheist.

I've never seen an atheist ask a reasonable question tho

victorels:


I still remember "One in three Persons". That is what I grew up Knowing. Yet God can Manifest Himself in Many dimensions.

An2elect2:


ok.

The bold is scriptural. Am yet to see trinity in the bible.

victorels
Yes. Jesus, God, Prayed to the Father, God.

The Information I wanted Him to understand is that The Father and Son are One.

victorels:

Do you believe in The Father?

An2elect2:


Erm explain your question pls...

Jozzy4:


God prayed to another God.

2 Gods , Very Plain .



He didnt say they are ONE GOD ? Did he ?

victorels:


John 10:30
30 I and my Father are one.

If you have accepted that the Father is God and the Son is God, why is that statement too difficult for you to understand.

Many atheist would be disappointed in you. If you chose to be an atheist, please go and learn the way of an atheist.

victorels:


John 10:30
30 I and my Father are one.

If you have accepted that the Father is God and the Son is God , why is that statement too difficult for you to understand.

Many atheist would be disappointed in you. If you chose to be an atheist, please go and learn the way of an atheist.

Jeromejnr:


Its amazing isn't it. You tend to wonder how people comprehend.

victorels:

So much loneliness is the cause. +t makes your mind to imagine without reasoning. The scripture used the word "Idleness". I pray he finds something Beautiful other than +++

Jozzy4:

Another solid proof of two Gods @ underlined " if the father is God" 1

And the Son is God " 2

Do you now accept you have two Gods that are with each other ? ( john 1:1)

I Guess we are also Gods and a part of trinity too . Hehehe " that they may ALL be one JUST AS we are one " john 17:22 ?

victorels:


John 10:34
Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"'?

So you don't Know that Children of God are Gods.

Keep deceiving yourself.

Jozzy4:

Am Sorry this is paining you , nevertheless you have confirm it that a God prays to another God . Two distinct Gods , one pray to the other .


Reason , dont be afraid of questioning your faith.

victorels:

In the Scripture, John 20:21
Then said Jesus to them again, “Peace be unto you. As My Father hath sent Me, even so send I you.” Do you believe inn the father that Jesus mentioned. That is the key to my faith in Trinity. That is if you want to here me.

victorels:


John 10:34
Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"'?

So you don't Know that Children of God are Gods.

Keep deceiving yourself.

Jozzy4:


Add them to the two Gods in john 1:1 , how many Gods are we counting now ?

An2elect2:


This is what i believe.

1 Timothy 3:16 " And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh,
justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached
unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world,
received up into glory."

I don't see the Father the way trinity defines Him. But i know God is the Father, who has revealed Himself in bodily form in these last days.

victorels:


Job 2:1
Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.

You can Include the angels too because they are son of God including the fallen one, Satan.

If you have brain, you would choose the side of God and be counted a worthy son. If you know the what being a god is, you should be crying by now. Its your choice to make.

An2elect2:
Simple God was with Himself. There are no separate persons in God just ONE SPIRIT.

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