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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:28pm On Sep 01, 2015
jln115:

We've already proved that he Gripen is better than the JF-17 on multiple occasions.

The Gripen C/D is only marginally better than the JF-17 A/B.

The Gripen C/D costs $38 million than the JF-17 A/B.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:29pm On Sep 01, 2015
Henry120:


They are 4.5 and 4 Gen aircrafts. The Gripen C/D is 4 Gen.
Dassault classifies the Rafale as a 4th gen Aircraft, so does Lockheed with regards to the F16 and PAC/CAC classify the JF-17 as 3rd gen......Go check there websites.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:38pm On Sep 01, 2015
Henry120:


The Gripen C/D is only marginally better than the JF-17 A/B.

The Gripen C/D costs $38 million than the JF-17 A/B.
Gripen:
Better Radar
much much much lower RCS
better stall speed
shorter landing distance
Faster
much much lower wing loading, thus much better agility
better HMI
better G-force endurance
higher payload
better HMD
better claim rate
better EW suit

Need I say more?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:46pm On Sep 01, 2015
Henry120:

The JF-17 uses an up-graded engine. The RD-93, it also can use the WS-13 engine.
DictatorZoo, you still are unable to prove how the JF-17 is a 3rd world jet.
You Gripen C/D is barely better than the JF-17 A/B.


The JF has a speed of a tortoise and a radar that can only look up to 50km. Very bad indeed.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:50pm On Sep 01, 2015
agaugust:


89 South Africans perish daily on your streets without any warning of death


How many Nigerians who perish out there other than through the act of BH? Numerically Nigerians killed more than double the number of SA.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:53pm On Sep 01, 2015
shizzy7:
Nigerian Army Retakes GOmboru-Ngala village from Boko Haram

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/09/breaking-news-nigerian-army-retakes-gomboru-ngala-from-bharam/

Oh!! Are you still even retaking towns from BH? I thought you were done with that long time ago.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by shizzy7(f): 9:55pm On Sep 01, 2015
Msauza:


Oh!! Are you still even retaking towns from BH? I thought you were done with that long time ago.
read the link...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 9:55pm On Sep 01, 2015
jln115:

Actually there's a huge difference as ive pointed out many times...and no! the Gripen is in fact a bargain buy!!
just as there huge difference between Gripen and j10B, SU27 and SU30. They are still less than the price
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:02pm On Sep 01, 2015
shizzy7:
No man,, Apparently BH has been reduced from operating in about 5 states to 2 states(borno and yobe))), That of Lagos is just a false Alarm and this is not the first time we are hearing about it,,they said the same thing last year.

BH started by attacking shopping malls, UN building and barracks BUT now all they do is to have guerrilla attacks in villages like twice a month Unlike before which was almost everyday... Their end is near, their last video they were begging people to join them 'cos we've killed most of their members and So many of their hideouts has been bombed through NAF air raid..WE ARE WINNING THE WAR,, There's a new sheriff in town..


Rather argue with this report where your DSS Intelligence service confirmed the arrest of BH members in Lagos, Nigeria. Apparently, Lagos is now infested with suicide bombers.


http://blogs.cfr.org/campbell/2015/09/01/boko-haram-turns-to-lagos/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by shizzy7(f): 10:29pm On Sep 01, 2015
Msauza:



Rather argue with this report where your DSS Intelligence service confirmed the arrest of BH members in Lagos, Nigeria. Apparently, Lagos is now infested with suicide bombers.


http://blogs.cfr.org/campbell/2015/09/01/boko-haram-turns-to-lagos/
NO,,The major responsibility of the DSS is the protection of the president, top government officials and Family... But they lost their respect when they were involved in the Manipulation of the election process,,thinking the incumbent will win BUT Power has changed hands they are trying to please the new Govt./president who just rejected 253 DSS operatives last mnth ...Nobody takes them serious,,

In 5yrs that we've had Boko Haram they have never had anything to say about them until 2days ago.....AND its BH suspects NOT members,,
**BESIDES the arrest was made from 5 States, I don't know why your link is emphasizing on Lagos....
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:56pm On Sep 01, 2015
iblawi:
just as there huge difference between Gripen and j10B, SU27 and SU30. They are still less than the price
Exactly!! because the Gripen outclasses them all!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 12:18am On Sep 02, 2015
shizzy7:
NO,,The major responsibility of the DSS is the protection of the president, top government officials and Family... But they lost their respect when they were involved in the Manipulation of the election process,,thinking the incumbent will win BUT Power has changed hands they are trying to please the new Govt./president who just rejected 253 DSS operatives last mnth ...Nobody takes them serious,,

In 5yrs that we've had Boko Haram they have never had anything to say about them until 2days ago.....AND its BH suspects NOT members,,
**BESIDES the arrest was made from 5 States, I don't know why your link is emphasizing on Lagos....

You are wrong. DSS main responsibility is internal security & intelligence. While NIA deals with foreign intelligence.

I think this is a good news not minding how the media wants to paint it. because it shows our intelligence agencies are not sleeping and trying very hard to contain BH to their state of origin (borno). That's not an easy task but they are secretly doing it and succeeding.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by shizzy7(f): 12:29am On Sep 02, 2015
stillchris:


You are wrong. DSS main responsibility is internal security & intelligence. While NIA deals with foreign intelligence.

I think this is a good news not minding how the media wants to paint it. because it shows our intelligence agencies are not sleeping and trying very hard to contain BH to their state of origin (borno). That's not an easy task but they are secretly doing it and succeeding.
Okay,,but Buhari was angry with them for interfering in the election...
And maybe you should Google DSS they Also have a responsibility of Protecting the President,govt. officials... I just realized that last month he Changed them...

Then its another DSS under another Government...

Because they have NEVER had any intelligent thing/interest In Boko Haram Under Jonathan's regime

I was surprised when I heard "DSS" - THE FEAR OF BUHARI IS THE BEGINNING OF HARDWORK/INTELLIGENCE

http://www.thecapital.ng/index.php/lastest-news/2505-president-buhari-angry-with-dss-shuns-officials-as-guard-plans-military-shake-up
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:12am On Sep 02, 2015
jln115:

Jap were not mates...................WE ARE FVCKING BRO's!!!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:19am On Sep 02, 2015
Henry120:


They are 4.5 and 4 Gen aircrafts. The Gripen C/D is 4 Gen.


Not according to the Royal Australian Aifrorce

According to them, Gripen C/D is 4.5 gen

Now, provide reputable sources or stop posting on the topic
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:25am On Sep 02, 2015
Henry120:


The Gripen C/D is only marginally better than the JF-17 A/B.

The Gripen C/D costs $38 million than the JF-17 A/B.

1. Gripen C/D is substantially better than the JF-17

2. The Gripen costs more than the CHEAPEST FORM of JF-17, which is the ~$25mil DAYLIGHT INTERCEPTOR

This is what you dont get Henry, the cheap price they are quoting you is the entry level JF-17 - the one with no bells and whistsles.


[size=15pt]But its irrelevant because: Argentina have confirmed the Kfir block 60 to be better than the JF-17[/size]

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:22am On Sep 02, 2015
patches689:



Not according to the Royal Australian Aifrorce

According to them, Gripen C/D is 4.5 gen

Did Australian air force manufacture Gripen ?

Also, which radar variant are they referring to ? Surely not the old school South African version with 20 year old obsolete pulse doppler radar
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:27am On Sep 02, 2015
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[size=13pt] The Southies are broke, while Naija is still buying new weapons and more to come ...
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 5:42am On Sep 02, 2015
jln115:

Exactly!! because the Gripen outclasses them all!
don't even go there. How will Gripen outclass, J10B, SU27 and SU30 am sure you don't know what you are saying. All these jet are top 10 in the world where your over priced Gripen is no where on the list.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:45am On Sep 02, 2015
iblawi:
don even go there. How will Gripen outclass, J10B, SU27 and SU30 am sure you don't know what you are saying. All these jet are top 10 in the world where Gripen is no where on the list.
Uhm......Nobody cares about your personal top 10 fighters...the fact is the Gripen outclasses the j10,su27,mig29 and su30, these are the facts mate.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 5:48am On Sep 02, 2015
jln115:

Uhm......Nobody cares about your personal top 10 fighters...the fact is the Gripen outclasses the j10,su27,mig29 and su30, these are the facts mate.
it is not my personal top 10 but well known fact. pls post any source that says Gripen is better than any 1 of them on the list.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 5:59am On Sep 02, 2015
South Africa to Host the 2022 Common Wealth Games in Durban. #Epic!!!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 6:05am On Sep 02, 2015
shizzy7:
NO,,The major responsibility of the DSS is the protection of the president, top government officials and Family... But they lost their respect when they were involved in the Manipulation of the election process,,thinking the incumbent will win BUT Power has changed hands they are trying to please the new Govt./president who just rejected 253 DSS operatives last mnth ...Nobody takes them serious,,

In 5yrs that we've had Boko Haram they have never had anything to say about them until 2days ago.....AND its BH suspects NOT members,,
**BESIDES the arrest was made from 5 States, I don't know why your link is emphasizing on Lagos....
They are working but you don't see them like the police. They are everywhere in the country disguise as normal civilian. They still gather lot of information about insurgents. Although the past administration used they for political gains. But Buhari has cleaned them up.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by shizzy7(f): 6:59am On Sep 02, 2015
iblawi:
They are working but you don't see them like the police. They are everywhere in the country disguise as normal civilian. They still gather lot of information about insurgents. Although the past administration used they for political gains But Buhari has cleaned them up.
At the bolded exactly.... I didn't know he Sacked them..
During the past administration They didn't know what they are job was especially during election, they were just doing Rubbish.. I thought its still the same DSS under Jonathan...

But as usual,, some States' police are already saying there is no BH in their state...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:11am On Sep 02, 2015
iblawi:
it is not my personal top 10 but well known fact. pls post any source that says Gripen is better than any 1 of them on the list.

http://www.aviatia.net/versus/jas-39-gripen-vs-sukhoi-su-27/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:15am On Sep 02, 2015
iblawi:
it is not my personal top 10 but well known fact. pls post any source that says Gripen is better than any 1 of them on the list.
The Gripen has a better wingloading than all those aircraft, thus much more agile
Gripen has a better hmd out of all those aircraft you mentioned.
A better hmi than all of them
Better ew suit
Much much lower rcs than all of them
Shorter take off and landing distance than all of them.
By far the lowest running costs of any fighter in the world.

Need I say more?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 9:36am On Sep 02, 2015
Henry120:




Patrick and Jillingy provide evidence that the Gripen C/D is 4.5 GEN, and I'll post evidence to show why it isn't in response.
some zombie even said it was 6th gen fighter. Lmao hilarious.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 9:42am On Sep 02, 2015
agaugust:
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.[size=13pt] Brazil's Army Comes To Nigeria To Learn Jungle Warfare

Aftermath of Naija's victory over Boko Haram, the whole world has started flocking to Nigerian army for expert training ! No serious country goes to South African army grin grin
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South African army went to Brazil for jungle warfare training 2013/2014, but their master Brazil is coming to train under Nigerian army 2015, then SANDF will soon be in Abuja begging for Nigerian training 2016....watch out...

http://dailytrust.com.ng/news/news/nigeria-army-to-partner-brazil-on-jungle-warfare/108912.html
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Sobuza3: 10:18am On Sep 02, 2015
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Canadian city and previous host Edmonton withdrew from the 2022 race in February, citing oil price-related financial concerns, leaving the South African port as the only bidder.

"A historic decision for all of us and one that my commission completely endorses," newly-elected Commonwealth Games Federation (CGF) president Louise Martin told the organisation's general assembly in Auckland.

The next Commonwealth Games will be held at Australia's Gold Coast in 2018.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Sobuza3: 10:31am On Sep 02, 2015
Good day fellow Africans I've been following this thread for over a year now and still to date Nigeria has yet to provide proof that they are stronger than us (mzansi) thought by now you would have at least bought the

1.Tucano (not that it's any threat but Nigers think a front propelled plane can compete with a jet but hey we from different parts of the continent, obviously different levels of thinking)
2. Signed the JF 17 or Russian fighter jets deal (yawn)
3. Other deals Augustus claimed Nigeria is buying.

You've been window shopping for a while now and really hope you buy something worth debating.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:39am On Sep 02, 2015
agaugust:


Did Australian air force manufacture Gripen ?

Also, which radar variant are they referring to ? Surely not the old school South African version with 20 year old obsolete pulse doppler radar
.

Did SAAB say gripen is 4th gen? Quote them

Is the SAAF gripen radar the same as a normal c/d?

Is radar the only thing that defines generation?

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