jln115:

Sukhoi classify the Su30,35,47 as 4th gen
Dassault classify the Rafale as 4th gen
Lockheed Martin classify the F16 block 60 as 4th gen
PAC and CAC classify the JF-17 a 3rd gen.....seriously im not even joking!!!![

We still need to prove is Gripen C/D is better than JF-17 thunder block 2 That is just about half the price of Gripen.

iblawi:


We still need to prove is Gripen C/D is better than JF-17 thunder block 2 That is just about half the price of Gripen.

Compare their speed and radar. Gripen is better.

Gripen C/D also uses more dangerous weapons than JF-17

jln115:

jln115!! and his Patches689, you see!!! we know each others names!!

He is Patrick and you your username is jillingy, you see, he doesn't even know your name.

No you don't.

jln115:

Sukhoi classify the Su30,35,47 as 4th gen
Dassault classify the Rafale as 4th gen
Lockheed Martin classify the F16 block 60 as 4th gen
PAC and CAC classify the JF-17 a 3rd gen.....seriously im not even joking!!!![

Sukhoi classifies the SU-30SM, SU-35, SU-30M2 as 4++ Gen. UAC does not classify them as 4 GEN.

Dassault classifies the Rafale as 4.5 GEN.

Lockheed martin classifies the F-16 block 52- 62 as 4++ GEN.

SAAB classifies the Gripen C/D as 4 GEN.

CATIC classifies the JF-17 as 4 GEN.

jln115:

Who are you to decide who's my mate or not? And you wont get a more credible source than from RAAF themselves.

SAAB classifies there plane as 4 GEN.

patches689:

Yet when we compared them we found this to be completely untrue

So, why don't we compare?

iblawi:

That is becos they have something to gain there. Hunters don't roam in bushes for nothing.
Do you know how many Nigerian are in UK, US, China, Cameroon, Congo, we are every where just like the Chinese. They remit billions of dollars back home every year.
Pls post your source that Benin state is prostitution capital in Africa.

Why are you roaming the streets of western nations when you claim to be the best in africa. All over the world you are hated even in China and India where people even protested against your Ibgo criminal and primitive mentality.

You want the source of that proves benin state and Nigeria is the hub of prostitution in Africa.

Here enjoy
https://www.utexas.edu/conferences/africa/ads/901.html
Nigeria the HUB OF SUB SAHARA Prostitution

DictatorZAR:


Why are you roaming the streets of western nations when you claim to be the best in africa. All over the world you are hated even in China and India where people even protested against your Ibgo criminal and primitive mentality.

You want the source of that proves benin state and Nigeria is the hub of prostitution in Africa.

Here enjoy
https://www.naij.com/353666-nigerian-soldier-claims-poor-welfare-and-arms.html

Nigeria the HUB OF SUB SAHARA Prostitution

Am sure you don't know what you posted

Henry120:


Sukhoi classifies the SU-30SM, SU-35, SU-30M2 as 4++ Gen. UAC does not classify them as 4 GEN.

Dassault classifies the Rafale as 4.5 GEN.

Lockheed martin classifies the F-16 block 52- 62 as 4++ GEN.

SAAB classifies the Gripen C/D as 4 GEN.

CATIC classifies the JF-17 as 4 GEN.

Cite where SAAB classifies it as such

Henry120:


SAAB classifies there plane as 4 GEN.

Cite where it classifies it as such

patches689:

Cite where it classifies it as such

It is open knowledge.

Henry120:


It is open knowledge.

JF-17 is not a 4th gen fighter, it does not make that list. Sorry.

Msauza:



JF-17 is not a 4th gen fighter, it does not make that list. Sorry.

I just confirmed from a SA forum that your Gripens have lesser capabilities. It doesn't even have aerial refueling capability are you sure you were not given a modified Gripen A/B.

iblawi:
Am sure you don't know what you posted

Sorry here is the correct one
https://www.utexas.edu/conferences/africa/ads/901.html

DictatorZAR:


Sorry here is the correct one
https://www.utexas.edu/conferences/africa/ads/901.html

I can't find where they said benin state is the capital of prostitute in Africa. The whole thing was base on Edo state, Nigeria and Italy. Can't even finish it cos is too long.

iblawi:


They have more murderer, more rapists, more HIV patients, more of everything. I wonder some1 saying Nigerians don't have toilets have you been to Nigeria b4 to compare it wit your country. They talk of health when our doctors are being looked for in other developed countries.

Lol, at the bolded sentence,, Very funny The person thinks The only Toilets Nigerians use are those at shoprite & Mtn......So Many of them with DELUSIONAL thoughts...

Nigerian Doctors defeated Ebola and even sacrificed their lives...This year Nigeria became Polio-Free...

mzilakazi:



DO YOU MEAN SAUDI ARABIA THAT BUYS FROM US?


MASMAK IS INFACT SOUTH AFRICAN MRAP.

Nope !

The MRAP is legally and officially a Saudi Arabian product, project was funded by Saudis, designed and manufactured in Saudi factories NOT South Africa. Yes, they partnered with Paramount group South Africa ONLY FOR CONSULTANCY ON SALES PROMOTION, but it is still a Saudi product and manufactured in Saudi Arabia ONLY.

"Unveiled during a 2011 arms show, the Al-Masmak (“Fortress” in Arabic) is the latest among the growing number of locally made wheeled armored vehicles in the Arabian Peninsula. The Al-Masmak is manufactured by the state-owned conglomerate Saudi Groups.

Although Saudi Arabia has been manufacturing personnel carriers since the 1990s, the Al-Masmak is its first genuine mine-resistant truck for the armed forces. But the Al-Masmak was soon being marketed abroad. In 2012, Saudi Groups partnered with Industrial and Automotive Design South Africa (IADSA), a vehicle consultancy, to promote the Al-Masmak –re-designated the Nyoka Mk2."

http://21stcenturyasianarmsrace.com/2015/04/30/armored-cars-saudi-groups-al-masmak/

Saudi Arabia builds a better MRAP than South Africa.

patches689:


1. Botswanas army arrived late (after the fighting)
2. The initial invasion force was of 600 men
3. Not a weak hungry force - 2000 men of the LDF
4. No, it was 600 v 2000 thats a simple fact
5. Who said we asked them for help?

Tell me how was the operation in lesotho a failure?

What objectives did we fail to meet?

Dude dont come here and try to creat argumenents where there are none

We took complete controll of the army in 49 hours
We killed over 100 men for the loss of only 10
Political order was restored

The operation met all objectives

Nope, SANDF was defeated by Lesotho coup plotters as proved by sources posted yesterday.

Shame on South African army for it's endless losses in every war since Mandela took over
.

iblawi:


I just confirmed from a SA forum that your Gripens have lesser capabilities. It doesn't even have aerial refueling capability are you sure you were not given a modified Gripen A/B.

You are totally misinformed or you are just plain st.@upid. What SA forum are you reffering to this one
http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/aircraft/21/gripen-d

agaugust:

Nope !
The MRAP is legally and officially a Saudi Arabian product, project was funded by Saudis, designed and manufactured in Saudi factories NOT South Africa. Yes, they partnered with Paramount group South Africa ONLY FOR CONSULTANCY ON SALES PROMOTION, but it is still a Saudi product and manufactured in Saudi Arabia ONLY.
"Unveiled during a 2011 arms show, the Al-Masmak (“Fortress” in Arabic) is the latest among the growing number of locally made wheeled armored vehicles in the Arabian Peninsula. The Al-Masmak is manufactured by the state-owned conglomerate Saudi Groups.
Although Saudi Arabia has been manufacturing personnel carriers since the 1990s, the Al-Masmak is its first genuine mine-resistant truck for the armed forces. But the Al-Masmak was soon being marketed abroad. In 2012, Saudi Groups partnered with Industrial and Automotive Design South Africa (IADSA), a vehicle consultancy, to promote the Al-Masmak –re-designated the Nyoka Mk2."
http://21stcenturyasianarmsrace.com/2015/04/30/armored-cars-saudi-groups-al-masmak/
Saudi Arabia builds a better MRAP than South Africa.

Many companies bought patent rights from SA to produce certain MRAPS. China and Saudi Arabia has done it. Nyoka and Bigfoot are one example of such transactions. Even USA and Australia have done it. Nigeria also is on the process of doing it.

patches689:


According to Aerospaceweb and RAF (Australian) Air Power Development Centre Bulletin Classification's its 4.5 gen

http://airpower.airforce.gov.au/publications/Details/475/170-Five-Generations-of-Jet-Fighter-Aircraft.aspx

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0182.shtml

Wiki summery of the two:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fighter_generations#cite_note-aerospace-7

SAAF Gripen is NOT 4.5 gen....it's got a 20 year old pulse doppler old school radar ! Your jet is basic 4 gen.
.

Henry120:


It is open knowledge.

No

It is not common knowledge

Cite where SAAB said so

agaugust:


[s]Nope !

The MRAP is legally and officially a Saudi Arabian product, project was funded by Saudis, designed and manufactured in Saudi factories NOT South Africa. Yes, they partnered with Paramount group South Africa ONLY FOR CONSULTANCY ON SALES PROMOTION, but it is still a Saudi product and manufactured in Saudi Arabia ONLY.

"Unveiled during a 2011 arms show, the Al-Masmak (“Fortress” in Arabic) is the latest among the growing number of locally made wheeled armored vehicles in the Arabian Peninsula. The Al-Masmak is manufactured by the state-owned conglomerate Saudi Groups.

Although Saudi Arabia has been manufacturing personnel carriers since the 1990s, the Al-Masmak is its first genuine mine-resistant truck for the armed forces. But the Al-Masmak was soon being marketed abroad. In 2012, Saudi Groups partnered with Industrial and Automotive Design South Africa (IADSA), a vehicle consultancy, to promote the Al-Masmak –re-designated the Nyoka Mk2."

http://21stcenturyasianarmsrace.com/2015/04/30/armored-cars-saudi-groups-al-masmak/
[/s]
Saudi Arabia builds a better MRAP than South Africa.

[size=20pt]OWNED BY PARAMOUNT GROUP YOU CLOWN[/size]

agaugust:


Nope, SANDF was defeated by Lesotho coup plotters as proved by sources posted yesterday.

Shame on South African army for it's endless losses in every war since Mandela took over
.

Over and above, one cannot disagree with the Chief of the SANDF, Gen Nyanda, that the military objectives defined in the mandate were accomplished. To this end, it would be fair to state from a clinically military viewpoint that Operation Boleas had been successfully conducted, as it did succeed in stabilizing the security situation in Lesotho and safeguarded South Africa's interests in that country

- Military Intervention in Lesotho: Perspectives on Operation Boleas and Beyond

agaugust:


SAAF Gripen is NOT 4.5 gen....it's got a 20 year old pulse doppler old school radar ! Your jet is basic 4 gen.
.

Not according to the R.A.A.F

I have provided citations that substantiate my claims

You have provided nothing.

Gripen C/D is 4.5 gen

Deal With It

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.[size=13pt] Brazil's Army Comes To Nigeria To Learn Jungle Warfare

Aftermath of Naija's victory over Boko Haram, the whole world has started flocking to Nigerian army for expert training ! No serious country goes to South African army
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South African army went to Brazil for jungle warfare training 2013/2014, but their master Brazil is coming to train under Nigerian army 2015, then SANDF will soon be in Abuja begging for Nigerian training 2016....watch out...

http://dailytrust.com.ng/news/news/nigeria-army-to-partner-brazil-on-jungle-warfare/108912.html
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agaugust:

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.[size=13pt] Brazil's Army Comes To Nigeria To Learn Jungle Warfare
....Aftermath of NA's victory over Boko Haram, the whole world will be flocking to Nigerian army for expert training !
[/size]
South African army went to Brazil for jungle warfare training, but their master Brazil is coming to train under Nigerian army, then SANDF will soon be in Abuja begging for Nigerian training....watch out...
http://dailytrust.com.ng/news/news/nigeria-army-to-partner-brazil-on-jungle-warfare/108912.html
.

BRAZIL IS COMING TO TRAIN NIGERIAN MILITARY IN JUNGLE WARFARE. BWAHAHAHA…

Who said Nigeria won the war against BH?

patches689:


[size=20pt]YOU ILLITERATE CLOWN - THEY ARE TRAINING YOU[/size]


e Nigerian and Brazilian armies have commenced talks on collaboration [size=15pt]to improve Nigeria’s Defence industry and training of personnel on jungle warfare.[/size]

General Buratai also “used the opportunity to request the Deputy Chief of Army Staff’s assistance in [size=15pt]facilitation of training billets for Nigerian Army personnel particularly in jungle warfare[/size] due to the present security challenges in the country,”
http://dailytrust.com.ng/news/news/nigeria-army-to-partner-brazil-on-jungle-warfare/108912.html

I dont know if you are simply incompetant or being dishonest, either way you have FAILED HARD

[size=20]At first I couldn't read it well, but as I went further I saw that Brazil is coming to train these Mumus. Bwahahahaha…[/size]

Msauza:




BRAZIL IS COMING TO TRAIN NIGERIAN MILITARY IN JUNGLE WARFARE. BWAHAHAHA…

Who said Nigeria won the war against BH?

Ask Shekau where he is hiding now

Brazil has ZERO war experience, but a better defence industry. Nigeria is requesting training billets/equipment from us for the use of Nigerian army jungle training teams. The Brazilians want joint training/collaboration from war experienced Nigerian army.

The Brazilian army came to Abuja, not the other way around you dumbo !
.

Boko Haram is expanding to Lagos.

Lagosians beware!!!!!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-34105931

agaugust:


Ask Shekau where he is hiding now

Brazil has ZERO war experience, but a better defence industry. Nigeria is requesting training billets/equipment from us for the use of Nigerian army jungle training teams. The Brazilians want joint training/collaboration from war experienced Nigerian army.

The Brazilian army came to Abuja, not the other way around you dumbo !
.

Boko Haram recently killed 79 people in Nigeria on their horse backs. Who said they are defeated?