benjibabs:



Braahahahaahahahahahahahah!!!!

Your case is like that person trying to hide behind a NEPA pole. How convenient? see the quote below:



Do you remember those words? See ya life outside!

Now you want to use "communicate" and not "talking" since "talking" did no happen in the scripture you quoted. Just see ya head!!!

Thank God you did not assume this time that the dead who rose up from their graves went back home and lived happily ever after

You should really cover your face with both your hands and run out of this thread with your tail between your legs just as you did earlier when @Jeromejnr crushed all your attempts to feed us with all the trash that your denomination has stuffed into your thick skull.

Again, this example does not show in any way that those who are dead can hear the living. The event you quoted has its significance in the work of salvation that Jesus came to accomplish. Do you know that both events on Mount of transfiguration that your bros provided and this one occurred only because of Jesus? Prior to Jesus and after him, was there any event like these?

How can I start to educate you on these deep verses when you don't even understand that man, either dead or alive, cannot be omnipresent e.t.c.

OLAADEGBU:


Let me let you in on a little secret. Did you know?

benjibabs:




Both of you are clowns and should be confined in the circus to entertain unbelievers with your antics of trying to force a square peg into a round hole!

It is more than 2wks that this thread opened and you are yet to provide just one scripture to back up your claims. It is abundantly clear that you neither know nor understand the God you claim to serve. As I have mentioned earlier, the message of the bible is extremely simple, you will need someone to help you miss it. Let me ask you one last question before I leave . . .

If road A leads to your destination, 100% guaranteed and road B may or may not lead you to your destination, which one would you take? It is not a trick question o. Just apply common sense and should get the right answer.

italo:


That moment when the OP derails his own topic with heretical memos because he can't stand the biblical evidence put before him showing that Mary and the Saints can hear us.

From "bible alone" to "memes alone."

Tomorrow, he'll say "Catholics don't read bible."

dmandy:


What Book of the Bible did you just quote oga?

OLAADEGBU:


You ask for Bible evidence then you get bible evidence. Read what God says (in red) and the response of the idol worshippers (in blue):

"The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke me to anger" (Jeremiah 7:18; 44:17-25).

"But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour our drink offerings to her as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil. But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings to her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine"(Jeremiah 44:17-18.).

This is how Mary has been exalted in the minds some Roman catholics to the status of deity who they think hears their prayers.

italo:


The verses say nothing about Mary and the Saints.

But 1John3:2 and 1Cor13:12 say Mary and the Saints know fully, and are like God.

OLAADEGBU:


You ask for Bible evidence then you get bible evidence. Read what God says (in red) and the response of the idol worshippers (in blue):

"The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke me to anger" (Jeremiah 7:18; 44:17-25).

"But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour our drink offerings to her as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil. But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings to her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine"(Jeremiah 44:17-18.).

This is how Mary has been exalted in the minds some Roman catholics to the status of deity who they think hears their prayers.

OLAADEGBU:


Are you saying Mary and the saints are now omniscient?

italo:


It's not me saying. It's the Holy Spirit that said in 1John3:2 and 1Cor13:12 that Mary and the Saints are like God and know fully.

Quarrel with him.

OLAADEGBU:
Why don't you quote what you are citing here so that we can 'rightly divide' the word of God?

dmandy:


Great graphics you have there.

So, Mary is all these things yet God chose her to be the Mother of His ONLY BEGOTTEN son. How wicked?

So Mary is a demon, yet Christ on the cross said to Christians 'Son, Behold your Mother'. How Ironic.

The whole Christendom is trouble then, what do you think?

OLAADEGBU:


The 'Mary' that you worship is what is referred to here not the real Mary. If the real Mary could here you now this is what she will say:

dmandy:


Which one should Christians worship then, the Real Mary?

OLAADEGBU:


Neither.

OLAADEGBU:

Why don't you quote what you are citing here so that we can 'rightly divide' the word of God?

italo:


1John3:2 Beloved, we are God’s children now; what we will be has not yet been revealed. What we do know is this: when he is revealed, we will be like him, for we will see him as he is.

1Cor13:9 For we know only in part, and we prophesy only in part; 10 but when the complete comes, the partial will come to an end. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face. [b]Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known.



How will we be like God?

What do we know and prophesy in part in 1Cor13:9-12?

dmandy:


Which one should Christians worship then, the Real Mary?

BTW, are you okay. Which exactly is your position?

She can't hear or She hears but cries out that nobody should pray to her? I don't get u.

dmandy:


Good.

Which one should be respected?

italo:


Olaadegbu has always been confused.

He says Mary can't hear prayers...then he says she is crying because of our prayers to her.

Even a five year old can see the senselessness in that.

OLAADEGBU:


The Son.

OLAADEGBU:


The Son.

dmandy:


My brother sometimes the undeserving hatred these people have for Mary blinds them totally.

Look at How a supposedly Christian is linking the Mother of Jesus Christ with all the demons in the whole world. Yet the only offence this humble woman committed against OLAADEGBU and friends is "let it be done unto me according to your Word".

God Have mercy on all of us ooo.

italo:


1John3:2 Beloved, we are God’s children now; what we will be has not yet been revealed. What we do know is this: when he is revealed, we will be like him, for we will see him as he is.

1Cor13:9 For we know only in part, and we prophesy only in part; 10 but when the complete comes, the partial will come to an end. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face. [b]Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known.



How will we be like God?

What do we know and prophesy in part in 1Cor13:9-12?

italo:


Olaadegbu has always been confused.

He says Mary can't hear prayers...then he says she is crying because of our prayers to her.

Even a five year old can see the senselessness in that.

dmandy:


My brother sometimes the undeserving hatred these people have for Mary blinds them totally.

Look at How a supposedly Christian is linking the Mother of Jesus Christ with all the demons in the whole world. Yet the only offence this humble woman committed against OLAADEGBU and friends is "let it be done unto me according to your Word".

God Have mercy on all of us ooo.

OLAADEGBU:


When 1 John 3:2 says we 'shall be like him' it means that we have been predestined "to be conformed to the image of his Son" (Romans 8:29). When our Lord Jesus Christ comes back He "shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body" (Philipians 3:21). Jesus has also promised to "make all things new" and this might mean that those who died in Christ in their old age will be made young again and those who died in infancy will grow to a vibrant young maturity i.e. the age of Christ when He ascended to heaven so that we will all be like Him, not that we will be Omnipresent, Omniscient and Omnipotent as Him. There is only one God and we still remain His creatures, albeit, new creatures.

dmandy:


And no other?

OLAADEGBU:


Don't confuse the real Mary with the queen of heaven. Where in the Bible has it been said that Mary the mother of Jesus is the "queen of heaven"?

OLAADEGBU:


There is no other name.

italo:


But you said she was crying...which means she is aware of the prayers.

Sort yourself out. Which one is it? She is aware and crying for it or she isn't aware and isn't crying?

OLAADEGBU:


When 1 John 3:2 says we 'shall be like him' it means that we have been predestined "to be conformed to the image of his Son" (Romans 8:29). When our Lord Jesus Christ comes back He "shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body" (Philipians 3:21). Jesus has also promised to "make all things new" and this might mean that those who died in Christ in their old age will be made young again and those who died in infancy will grow to a vibrant young maturity i.e. the age of Christ when He ascended to heaven so that we will all be like Him, not that we will be Omnipresent, Omniscient and Omnipotent as Him. There is only one God and we still remain His creatures, albeit, new creatures.

italo:


Meanwhile, notice how they suddenly hate and abandon the scriptures since it proves them wrong...and embrace cartoons.