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Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by tpiander: 3:16pm On Oct 06, 2015
Hey Shymex. . .you . . . and your Peckham

Nigeria has suffered though. See how shymexx has been ranting all this while, na Nigeria product you be?

Bring down your glory Lord!
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by PocoAPoco57: 4:49pm On Oct 06, 2015
You rant all you want but there is no country in Africa better than England when it comes to security, healthcare, good roads and opportunities. I cant remember the last time the lights went off. If i am ill, all i have to do is call the ambulance and 10 mins its at my door. Better universities and facilities. Go figure
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by OnReflection: 4:53pm On Oct 06, 2015
Shymm3x:


I'm good, Sir. I actually thought you went ghost on these sides and I was on a countdown to ghost-mode and everything should come to an end soon.

I wasn't even going to comment on thread till I saw "Peckham in North London" and "2 million Nigerians in the UK". Just had to correct the nonsense and elaborate on how immigrants are the same everywhere. However, that doesn't negate the fact that there are tons of high flyers doing great things. The success story of Nigerian businesses in the UK is a pointer.

Generally, I think Nigerians lack interpersonal/social skills and it's evident when dealing with an average Nigerian - hence other black folks can't stand Nigerians. And that's the honest truth about Nigerians. If anything, Peckham should be the most revered place in the UK by Nigerians. The place opened its doors to tons of Nigerians and it's still the melting point for Nigerians. Peckham's historical influence is something folks ought to adore, especially what it stands for concerning the story of Nigerians in the UK. I've never seen Jamaicans throw shades at Brixton/Handsworth (Birmingham)...on the flipside, they adore those places cos they represent Kingston in the UK and their story in the UK will never be complete without those places.

I still remember a lot of the faceoffs between Caribbeans and Africans (mostly Jamaicans and Ghanaians) in Peckham back in the day. And most people don't even know that a lot of gangs in Peckham started cos of that in Peckham. Peckham made a lot of Caribbeans start respecting Africans and as folks started moving from Peckham to other areas - they were demanding respect and that stopped the unnecessary mugging of Africans by Caribbeans. I remember the days of Tipsy (R.I.P), Kwesi, Knuckles, Timer et al and all the Nigerian/Ghanaian guys in the firehouse crew - these guys fought with everything to earn respect for Africans. Back when you could walk all the way from North Peckham Estate, through Aylesbury Estate in Walworth, and connect Elephant and Castle all via different council estates (they have knocked everything down now). We had our own madness in school when Caribbeans used to come in every Friday to whoop our African arses. Days when you were better off claiming Jamaica than Africa. grin All that changed in Peckham. These folks need to start paying homage.

Nigerians love reaping where they didn't sow and afterwards throw shades at folks at people and places who paved the way for them. The same way they throw shades at Peckham is the same way they throw shades at Caribbeans who created tons of opportunities for black people living in Great Britain. Without Caribbeans fighting with their blood, sweat, and tears - race relations in this country wouldn't be what it's today. And it's the same thing in America between Nigerians and African Americans. Sad. I honestly don't know if it's generational amnesia or Nigerians just lack common sense and the cerebral capacity/capability to acknowledge things and accord respect where it's due.

Too right bruv.

It is clear that most of our people lack foresight, when they throw shade. As you rightly put it, with no real understanding of how the system works over the long term, most lay claim to "having arrived" prematurely. They forget that you cannot run a hundred miles as a sprint, that getting the best out of the system requires strategic thinking...I recall reading one article several years ago, where a Chinese man was supposed to have described Nigerians as people who "over celebrate and under achieve". When you look at our failure to establish lasting structures in the places where we once settled, that statement amounts to more than just another truism.

You will never the see the Uganda-Asians who settled in Leicester, some 40-something years ago, doing the peacock-walk. In fact, I double dare anyone to head to that city, today, and NOT return with glowing reports of just how buoyant this once maligned community of people has become.

However we slice and dice it; it is same places (communities) we now look down on, that remain the loci of Black political power in the UK.
Do I tell a lie when I credit Haringey (Tottenham), Hackney, and Brent (Brent South), as the boroughs which bequeathed us with our first Members of Parliament in 1987? Would anyone else but Bernie Grant - who was forced to adopt progressive politics by the way - have provided MKO Abiola with access to the British Parliament when the latter embraced the cause of reparations during his election campaign?

See, people either forget shitz or fail to connect with it in the first place.
I have not lived in Southwark for close to 20 years, but I will be damned if I allow anyone to malign the 'home of the brave' grin

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Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by NiRfreak(m): 4:55pm On Oct 06, 2015
Ilaje44:
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AYE.MA FU GEE
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by saipn: 4:56pm On Oct 06, 2015
Lizabeth25:
Who send them.. Then they should come back home nah..!

Most of them accept dirtier jobs than the ones naija can offer!

undecided undecided
so u expected them to accept the meagre amount of money paid for the dirtier job as u quote it in naija?which is not enough to take care of their family?
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by saipn: 5:07pm On Oct 06, 2015
coogar:


your view is myopic.....
those dirty jobs pay and are taking care of the young & old in nigeria. nigerians in diaspora remit about $21 billion annually in the last 3 years and you are talking about being used as slaves. you need to grab a book and stop reading linda ikeji's blog.
pls easy on the girl oooh it is obvious she did not know what she was saying......
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by PocoAPoco57: 5:10pm On Oct 06, 2015
To all mumugerians complaining about how hard Uk is, you have so many choices if you dont find living in UK comfortable. You can pack your belongings and settle in sambisa forest.
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by Nobody: 5:28pm On Oct 06, 2015
dovelike:

True. I said Car, not motor lol. Not while I've been working for just a few months though.

I don't stay in London.

I sent you a pm, did u see it?
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by Shymm3x: 6:20pm On Oct 06, 2015
OnReflection:

Too right bruv.

It is clear that most of our people lack foresight, when they throw shade. As you rightly put it, with no real understanding of how the system works over the long term, most lay claim to "having arrived" prematurely. They forget that you cannot run a hundred miles as a sprint, that getting the best out of the system requires strategic thinking...I recall reading one article several years ago, where a Chinese man was supposed to have described Nigerians as people who "over celebrate and under achieve". When you look at our failure to establish lasting structures in the places where we once settled, that statement amounts to more than just another truism.

You will never the see the Uganda-Asians who settled in Leicester, some 40-something years ago, doing the peacock-walk. In fact, I double dare anyone to head to that city, today, and NOT return with glowing reports of just how buoyant this once maligned community of people has become.

However we slice and dice it; it is same places (communities) we now look down on, that remain the loci of Black political power in the UK.
Do I tell a lie when I credit Haringey (Tottenham), Hackney, and Brent (Brent South), as the boroughs which bequeathed us with our first Members of Parliament in 1987? Would anyone else but Bernie Grant - who was forced to adopt progressive politics by the way - have provided MKO Abiola with access to the British Parliament when the latter embraced the cause of reparations during his election campaign?

See, people either forget shitz or fail to connect with it in the first place.
I have not lived in Southwark for close to 20 years, but I will be damned if I allow anyone to malign the 'home of the brave' grin

You nailed, Sir. Albeit you forgot to include both Brixton and Notting Hill. The history of Notting Hill is an interesting one and most people don't know that there's a reason why there's a Notting Hill carnival.

I think the fundamental problem with Nigerians is that they have this vacuous sense of superiority and entitlement, and that creates a subconscious aversion to observing and connecting with their immediate environment. And this tend to rub off on other people wrongly. Nigerian also naturally hate history and paying attention to details. One can't forget the tensions that existed between the Nigerian and Caribbean communities for a long time. Though this generation has been able to bridge the gap in London and it's more subtle and not as pronounced as it used to be - it is still somewhat there cos of things of this nature. Nigerians generally don't understand the concept black brotherhood...the only concept they understand is individualism and vain glory.

You need to visit Southwark/Peckham before they knock down Aylesbury Estate in Walworth. That is the only place standing from structures that represent old school Peckham/Walworth axis. I doubt you'll recognise Elephant and Castle these days - apart from the shopping centre.
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by Nobody: 6:35pm On Oct 06, 2015
Even if humans are paid millions for the most dirtiest job, it will never be enough for them to take care of their families!

We just too greedy joor!

undecided undecided

saipn:
so u expected them to accept the meagre amount of money paid for the dirtier job as u quote it in naija?which is not enough to take care of their family?
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by otiigba1(m): 7:43pm On Oct 06, 2015
Shymm3x:


You nailed, Sir. Albeit you forgot to include both Brixton and Notting Hill. The history of Notting Hill is an interesting one and most people don't know that there's a reason why there's a Notting Hill carnival.

I think the fundamental problem with Nigerians is that they have this vacuous sense of superiority and entitlement, and that creates a subconscious aversion to observing and connecting with their immediate environment. And this tend to rub off on other people wrongly. Nigerian also naturally hate history and paying attention to details. One can't forget the tensions that existed between the Nigerian and Caribbean communities for a long time. Though this generation has been able to bridge the gap in London and it's more subtle and not as pronounced as it used to be - it is still somewhat there cos of things of this nature. Nigerians generally don't understand the concept black brotherhood...the only concept they understand is individualism and vain glory.

You need to visit Southwark/Peckham before they knock down Aylesbury Estate in Walworth. That is the only place standing from structures that represent old school Peckham/Walworth axis. I doubt you'll recognise Elephant and Castle these days - apart from the shopping centre.
what! DId you say they knocked down Aylesbury estate? I have not been to that area for more than ten years now. I hear they are going to knock down elephant and castle centre too. Is the borough market along walworth road still there?
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by Ilaje44(m): 8:30pm On Oct 06, 2015
Obiwannn:

Yeah... Language.. Big barrier.
These persons you know, which of them are engineers and how many got to the very top of their careers?
And since you based in UK now, UK tax VS German Tax, which is worse?

I don't think I mentioned anywhere that I'm based in the UK. I cannot tell you about their income tax, I only went to the UK for visits. One of my friends who is currently in greater Manchester is trying to lure me to Scotland, but I am just unperturbed. I must admit that I am missing the orderliness of Germany, the dependability of the German system.

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Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by cococandy(f): 8:56pm On Oct 06, 2015
am doing fine here,” Eke started. “I have worked as an assistant in a big store, then as a security and for four years now I have a stable job in a taxi company. I earn well to take care of my family and go to Nigeria once every two years. We have bought a house in the high profile Lekki in Lagos and I send money home regularly to my aged parents.”

Which taxi driver can do this one in Nigeria?
Where government workers are being owed almost one year salary.

For many, migrating is still the solution.
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by donem: 9:04pm On Oct 06, 2015
ogaju007:

Lobatan where in Manchester?
Ogar sorry for late response. madam no specify o...
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by donem: 9:04pm On Oct 06, 2015
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Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by saipn: 9:26pm On Oct 06, 2015
Lizabeth25:
Even if humans are paid millions for the most dirtiest job, it will never be enough for them to take care of their families!

We just too greedy joor!

undecided undecided

chai na wa oooh,hope u read where i mentioned meagre amount of money?pls visit any Lebanese company in Nigeria and see how ppl are suffering..................
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by tpiander: 9:28pm On Oct 06, 2015
Shymexx

your attacks on this forum are a bit too focused and direct to be random or coincidental.

Would you like to share more about your story? I'm curious.

You have this passive aggressive manner of attacking in a way that makes look as if you're doing it innocently when in fact, it's very vicious and particular.

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Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by Nobody: 9:39pm On Oct 06, 2015
coogar:


you are a capital idïot!

60,000 naira will struggle to buy 600 litres of petrol. 2,000 pounds will buy 2,000 litres of petrol. i will rip everything you have learnt in economics into shreds within 30 mins if you permit me. £2,000 pounds is the equivalent of N60,000? i think you need to lie down and reappraise your intelligence quotient.

trust me you will understand with time. You are still busy converting currency. It is not my fault that you are brain dead but reality will eventually open your eyes. How come you are using petrol and not basics like accommodation? How many average houses in Nigeria do you pay 90k a month to rent? If you think earning 35,000 pounds annually in the UK. then talk to anyone living there. 35k pounds is living paycheck to paycheck. In time the truth will be revealed to you and your damaged head will be repaired and your ignorance punished!

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Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by Nobody: 9:40pm On Oct 06, 2015
You don't get me! No amount of money person go get wey go reach am spend!

saipn:
chai na wa oooh,hope u read where i mentioned meagre amount of money?pls visit any Lebanese company in Nigeria and see how ppl are suffering..................
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by Nobody: 9:57pm On Oct 06, 2015
tobimillar:


I sent you a pm, did u see it?
Oh yeah. Why?
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by coogar: 10:09pm On Oct 06, 2015
ayodele234:

trust me you will understand with time. You are still busy converting currency. It is not my fault that you are brain dead but reality will eventually open your eyes. How come you are using petrol and not basics like accommodation?

you are a consummate retärd!

stüpidly, you opined that N60,000 and £2,000 have the same purchasing power. i used fuel as a reference point and your analysis fell flat on its face. no one is comparing currency - i am just exposing your idiocy by using basic arithmetic.


How many average houses in Nigeria do you pay 90k a month to rent?

how many average houses in nigeria come with portable water, boiler, washer/dryer, phone line, internet hub, etc?


If you think earning 35,000 pounds annually in the UK. then talk to anyone living there. 35k pounds is living paycheck to paycheck. In time the truth will be revealed to you and your damaged head will be repaired and your ignorance punished!

people who earn £40k per annum in the UK are in the top 10% of high salary earners so how can £35k pounds be paycheck to paycheck. this is how simpletons like you misinform the public on what you know nothing about.
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by Shymm3x: 10:52pm On Oct 06, 2015
otiigba1:
what! DId you say they knocked down Aylesbury estate? I have not been to that area for more than ten years now. I hear they are going to knock down elephant and castle centre too. Is the borough market along walworth road still there?

You mean East Street market? Borough market is by London bridge in Borough (Brooklyn).

Yes, it's still there and kicking. Bagel King is also still there.

I think they'll knock down the whole of Aylesbury Estate in two years' time.

Do you know Heygate Estate, the massive Estate, by Elephant and Castle? They have knocked that down and they're already building exquisite high rise buildings there.
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by Shymm3x: 10:57pm On Oct 06, 2015
tpiander:
Shymexx

your attacks on this forum are a bit too focused and direct to be random or coincidental.

Would you like to share more about your story? I'm curious.

You have this passive aggressive manner of attacking in a way that makes look as if you're doing it innocently when in fact, it's very vicious and particular.

Lmao.

I know you're either mentally retarded or just a broken record - but I shall overlook ya mental illness and answer ya question.

I don't do passive aggressive...I just speak the truth regardless of whose ox is gored. Nigerians are notorious for everything I cited and that's the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Unless you want me to live in denial and start sugarcoating things like a lot of delusional Nigerians who think other black folks don't like them cos they're some vacuous high flyers when the obvious truth is that they don't like Nigerians cos Nigerians don't know how to act.

How many times have you seen Nigerians use some non-achievements to claim some type of superiority over other black folks? Do you see other black folks do that?

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Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by londoner: 11:07pm On Oct 06, 2015
Well, as much there are Nigerians with average jobs in the UK, there are also professionals in very well paid jobs. There are doctors, lawyers, accountants, business owners and IT professionals also. Speak with them too.
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by londoner: 11:15pm On Oct 06, 2015
coogar:


you are a consummate retärd!

stüpidly, you opined that N60,000 and £2,000 have the same purchasing power. i used fuel as a reference point and your analysis fell flat on its face. no one is comparing currency - i am just exposing your idiocy by using basic arithmetic.



how many average houses in nigeria come with portable water, boiler, washer/dryer, phone line, internet hub, etc?



people who earn £40k per annum in the UK are in the top 10% of high salary earners so how can £35k pounds be paycheck to paycheck. this is how simpletons like you misinform the public on what you know nothing about.

£35k will only be living paycheck to paycheck if you have dependents and a higher than average lifestyle. It is most certainly not living from paycheque to paycheque for a single person from London unless they live in a very pricey area.

Many Nigerians find London difficult because they expected money to be plucked from trees or at least not to be able to work hard. Many just find it hard living by rules and paying tax and other rates. They also don't have the opportunity in their jobs for kickbacks as some may be used to in Nigeria.

If some would exercise patience and even cut their coat to their size it would not seem so bad.
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by RedCapChief(m): 11:17pm On Oct 06, 2015
Ilaje44:
Those guys complaining about being targeted by the Police should please go to the State of Bavaria or Baden-Wuerttemberg in Germany, they will understand what a police state is.

However, even though there are some overzealous or even racist police officers, some of the predicaments we face are self afflicted. Some of our people like to cut corners, beat the system, and when they're caught, the oyinbo begin to stereotype everyone, we become potential suspects.
Despite all these, UK still offer a better opportunity for you as an "educated" African when you compare it to Germany even though Germany is economically, organizationally and structurally miles ahead of the UK. For instance, it's easier to land an administrative position as an African in the UK than in Germany.
Anyway, the only cure to us being mistreated is to get our country to run. We will earn the respect we crave if our homeland start to show signs of sanity. I'm afraid that might not even happen in my life time considering the situation Nigeria finds itself right now. The mentality of an average Nigerian, the lack of foresight of the political leaders, and the fact that Nigeria has defied reforms that ensure the growth of stable institutions and infrastructures necessary for development among others are very troubling. I wish Nigeria well nonetheless!

Word!!
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by londoner: 11:22pm On Oct 06, 2015
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Word!![/quote

Yep.
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by Ilaje44(m): 12:23am On Oct 07, 2015
NiRfreak:
AYE.MA FU GEE

Awa ye o! E le oma bami.

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Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by NiRfreak(m): 12:38am On Oct 07, 2015
Ilaje44:


Awa ye o! E le oma bami.
Me ma pe wo le gbo........hope that place is sweet....and dnt forget ilaje needs you here too...Magbagbe ule o....ule nuse!
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by Ilaje44(m): 12:45am On Oct 07, 2015
bebe2:
LONG STORY, cool cool cool

too many nigerians working themselves to death, so they can send money

to some ingrates in naija.

they have forgotten how to enjoy themselves and have fun wink wink wink

come oct 17th the groove is on , if u are in manchester come to my mums 80th birthday party.

no time to check timeooooo grin grin grin grin

I will be in Rochdale come December. One of my friends is celebrating his 50th. Make I come follow unna jolly small for the Queen's own country.
Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by Ilaje44(m): 12:55am On Oct 07, 2015
NiRfreak:
Me ma pe wo le gbo........hope that place is sweet....and dnt forget ilaje needs you here too...Magbagbe ule o....ule nuse!

Ugba yi me se oma ana. Me se nile fo ede Ilaje? Emi yi mo wa obele nati Abaala l'obon n'Aiyetoro ugba yi a fi eja mi gba pupuru, garri, abatina etc. Ugba yi ogho nina ti to Igbekun... Me se ni gbede?

Mo mo omi ino ifi. Mo du ghun ojerimade. Bi o tile pe eyi mo ti t'ule, okan mi gbagbe Igbekun. Emi oma ogeemoni agbeinoko ghen'wa. Emi oma imalokun agbabu...

Aigbede: Ede jami ogun
Onegbede: Ede a ru wo oko.

Sugban emi gbo ede Ilaje mi fo. Ule wa a toro.

Igbekun re:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEImVMolH9w

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Re: NIGERIANS IN LONDON The Never Told Stories by NiRfreak(m): 1:08am On Oct 07, 2015
Ilaje44:


Ugba yi me se oma ana. Me se nile fo ede Ilaje? Emi yi mo wa obele nati Abaala l'obon n'Aiyetoro ugba yi a fi eja mi gba pupuru, garri, abatina etc. Ugba yi ogho nina ti to Igbekun... Me se ni gbede?
lol....wow!....impressive....Nice to meet you......infact you have intimidated me with your deep knowledge of our community and culture...

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