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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by josefaith: 8:58am On Nov 07, 2015
robonski15:

Thank you sir, my farm is located at ogun and Lagos state..

Thats very good. Thank you for sharing from your wealth of experience in answering various questions on the platform.
Please Sir, where precisely is your farm in Lagos and Ogun and which of your farms can I see you.......... Want to start mine by His ggrace next year and dont want to stand alone but lean on experienced people shoulder. Thank you

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by josefaith: 9:13am On Nov 07, 2015
robonski15:
Rebas farms will be conducting a PRACTICAL CATFISH HATCHING (SPAWNING) SEMINAR.. SERIOUS interested persons should send me an email.. REGARDS

@ Robonski, started following your write up this week but you started it in 2013......... Though it is a long time from now but wont mind if you can give me the material u sent to other NL................ josephakintoye@yahoo.com............... Thanks in advance
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by oweniwe(m): 11:41am On Nov 07, 2015
I've been silently reading this thread for long

I hope to start my farm in January... in wooden 18 * 9 feet framework supported on d under & sides with either old/new roofing sheets, PVC ceiling or plank sheets (d type used to demarcate large halls.... then finally cover it with tapauline.... get a plumber to install in, out &recirculatory pipes (d ponds will b long o.... not square)... then pump in water. I hope to spend 25-30k to build a ponds that way..... undecided

I hope to start with 4000 fingerlings... 2000 fingerlings per pond.... after a month, I know I'll have to build another pond.... till then... make man start first. tongue

before I start anything sha... I'll go to large pharmacy shops to look for growth stimulating drugs/mineral/vitamin/hunger stimulating drugs I can grind to powder, add to liquid catfish "growth" tonic, mix with floating feed , sun dry and give dem fingerlings chop for about a week , sort the bigger one, continue feed-drugging the bigger ones periodically till I run out of drugs or at 2nd month..... wink

the runts nko? na bakery waste den go dey chop till about 3moths and den sell off and use d funds realized to buy feeds for the bigger onesangry

if I can get 2500 fishes to 1kg in 4 months by drug-feeding (I'll stop drugging in 2nd month), no wahala cheesy

tell me what u think grin

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by josefaith: 11:57am On Nov 07, 2015
robonski15:


We have clarias specie, hetero specie and hetero clarias(hybrid).. The best are the hybrid...

How can they be recognized?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by princefrezy: 1:00pm On Nov 07, 2015
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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Samojo4real(m): 7:09pm On Nov 07, 2015
oweniwe:
I've been silently reading this thread for long

I hope to start my farm in January... in wooden 18 * 9 feet framework supported on d under & sides with either old/new roofing sheets, PVC ceiling or plank sheets (d type used to demarcate large halls.... then finally cover it with tapauline.... get a plumber to install in, out &recirculatory pipes (d ponds will b long o.... not square)... then pump in water. I hope to spend 25-30k to build a ponds that way..... undecided

I hope to start with 4000 fingerlings... 2000 fingerlings per pond.... after a month, I know I'll have to build another pond.... till then... make man start first. tongue

before I start anything sha... I'll go to large pharmacy shops to look for growth stimulating drugs/mineral/vitamin/hunger stimulating drugs I can grind to powder, add to liquid catfish "growth" tonic, mix with floating feed , sun dry and give dem fingerlings chop for about a week , sort the bigger one, continue feed-drugging the bigger ones periodically till I run out of drugs or at 2nd month..... wink

the runts nko? na bakery waste den go dey chop till about 3moths and den sell off and use d funds realized to buy feeds for the bigger onesangry

if I can get 2500 fishes to 1kg in 4 months by drug-feeding (I'll stop drugging in 2nd month), no wahala cheesy

tell me what u think grin
have you thought about the residual effects of drugs on animals to be consumed by man?.
inasmuch as every farmer wants their fish to attain maximum weight within the shortest possible time at the least cost, I think you should factor in the health implications on man at the long run....
one thing I know is that EVERY drug is a potential poison and when used frequently can o accumulate both in the organism and the environment which will thereafter bio magnify in the final consumer......

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by oweniwe(m): 7:43pm On Nov 07, 2015
Samojo4real:

have you thought about the residual effects of drugs on animals to be consumed by man?.
inasmuch as every farmer wants their fish to attain maximum weight within the shortest possible time at the least cost, I think you should factor in the health implications on man at the long run....
one thing I know is that EVERY drug is a potential poison and when used frequently can o accumulate both in the organism and the environment which will thereafter bio magnify in the final consumer......

I intend to use normal drugs... same as people use... not growth hormones.

For one to do any form of agriculture without manure/fertilizer/growth boost, to me, is stupidity...

the drugs additive will be small.... and will b applied at intervals... say I could give them drug mixed feed on Monday, Wednesday and Sunday for two weeks... not that I'll be feeding them drugs everyday... they will all die from exhaustion nau.

if I get concrete results after first 2 weeks, then I'll continue the routine till they reach 2 months.... by then, I'll have to stop giving them drugs cos their appetite will be so much.... I don't think I'll be able to match their food demands.

so from 3-4 months, I won't put drugs in their feeds again except I'm looking for trouble...

by the fourth month, all the drugs would have been out of their body wink
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 8:11pm On Nov 07, 2015
josefaith:


@ Robonski, started following your write up this week but you started it in 2013......... Though it is a long time from now but wont mind if you can give me the material u sent to other NL................ josephakintoye@yahoo.com............... Thanks in advance

Hello sir, the only manual we have can be downloaded on the e-book and manual section of agricnetwork.com
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Samojo4real(m): 8:27pm On Nov 07, 2015
oweniwe:


I intend to use normal drugs... same as people use... not growth hormones.

For one to do any form of agriculture without manure/fertilizer/growth boost, to me, is stupidity...

the drugs additive will be small.... and will b applied at intervals... say I could give them drug mixed feed on Monday, Wednesday and Sunday for two weeks... not that I'll be feeding them drugs everyday... they will all die from exhaustion nau.

if I get concrete results after first 2 weeks, then I'll continue the routine till they reach 2 months.... by then, I'll have to stop giving them drugs cos their appetite will be so much.... I don't think I'll be able to match their food demands.

so from 3-4 months, I won't put drugs in their feeds again except I'm looking for trouble...

by the fourth month, all the drugs would have been out of their body wink
issokay....
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 8:39pm On Nov 07, 2015
Hello ladies and gentlemen, We are proud to announce that our fast growing rugged fingerlings/juveniles sales start from 1st of December. Production will be weekly.. We will be supplying anywhere in Nigeria, for Lagos and Ogun farmers there will be a free delivery straight to your farm, for other part of the country we will assist with 50% of your transportation cost..

Buyers will also be given free 5kg imported special super grow fingerlings/juvenile feed to boost their growth. I personally call it GROWTH MAGIC..Also we offer after sales support and free consultancy to all our buyers..Special oxygenated bags will be used to transport the fishes to avoid stress.

We have cut down the price to #8 for fingerlings #12 for juvenile for all to benefit and maximize profit.

Call now to place your orders.. 07043941307

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by lamude23: 6:29am On Nov 08, 2015
josefaith:


How can they be recognized?

Boss Robonski, can you supply we people in Ilorin, I need like 2000 post fingerlings
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by donnaheff: 9:51am On Nov 08, 2015
Do dead catfishes float?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 2:04pm On Nov 08, 2015
lamude23:


Boss Robonski, can you supply we people in Ilorin, I need like 2000 post fingerlings
Yes we can supply to any part of the country.. call to place your orders.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Calyb(m): 2:21pm On Nov 08, 2015
Am so proud of this young and energetic youths in this forum. I intend installing a fish feed unit in my farm that will be able to formulate locally made pelleting feed. I need your most noble advice on the way forward. Their cost and also where I can get it. Am in Abuja.
Pelletizer
Mixer
Grider.
Call me on 07067960823
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by barby008: 8:32pm On Nov 08, 2015
lamude23:


Boss Robonski, can you supply we people in Ilorin, I need like 2000 post fingerlings

Hello, just in case your need is urgent..I presently have some fingerlings n post for sale in Ilorin.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by barby008: 8:34pm On Nov 08, 2015
donnaheff:
Do dead catfishes float?

Most times,they dont
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Babs612000(m): 9:13pm On Nov 08, 2015
robonski15:
[color=#990000]Hello ladies and gentlemen, We are proud to announce that our fast growing rugged fingerlings/juveniles sales start from 1st of December. Production will be weekly.. We will be supplying anywhere in Nigeria, for Lagos and Ogun farmers there will be a free delivery straight to your farm, for other part of the country we will assist with 50% of your transportation cost..

Buyers will also be given free 5kg imported special super grow fingerlings/juvenile feed to boost their growth. I personally call it GROWTH MAGIC..Also we offer after sales support and free consultancy to all our buyers..Special oxygenated bags will be used to transport the fishes to avoid stress.

We have cut down the price to #8 for fingerlings #12 for juvenile for all to benefit and maximize profit.

Call now to place your orders. 09054672750 07043941307
[/


Hello please like how much will it cost to feed 1500 fingerlings in a month someone was telling me it will cost #100k kindly help me out.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by tobbyte(m): 1:09am On Nov 09, 2015
For 1500 fingerlings for one month dey shud not eat more than 3bags of feed...let say #6000 times 3 dats #18000....my own novice thought.

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Babs612000(m): 1:56am On Nov 09, 2015
tobbyte:
For 1500 fingerlings for one month dey shud not eat more than 3bags of feed...let say #6000 times 3 dats #18000....my own novice thought.
Thanks are you saying #18,000 per month or #18,000 per day.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fhemmmy: 2:02am On Nov 09, 2015
Babs612000:
Thanks are you saying #18,000 per month or #18,000 per day.

Please dont get it twisted . . . There is no way 18,000/month could feed a 1500 batch of fishes, maybe for the first month because the older they get, the more feed they consume . . . For 1500 fishes, it has been said here many times to budget 250/fish to make it to table size of 1Kg but to get this, you have to make sure that:
1. You buy good and reliable seed to start
2. Spacing MUST be right, dont overcrowd the pond and expect miracle
3. Good water management, else, no show
4. The feeding
And above all, pray like you are not doing it right and do it right like you are not praying
Good luck . . . Please note that this is just my novice advice.

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by chilanfarms(m): 7:57am On Nov 09, 2015
robonski15:

Yes we can supply to any part of the country.. call to place your orders.
Oga robo I need 5k post fingerlings na IB I deh, hav called ur 2 lines na off/story dem deh tell me...
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by tobbyte(m): 4:22pm On Nov 09, 2015
All i was sayin is for d first month oooo....after dat ur budget would b high...cus the more dey grow, the more dey consume feed...so as oga femmy said...budget 250 per fish to table size

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 6:53pm On Nov 09, 2015
chilanfarms:
Oga robo I need 5k post fingerlings na IB I deh, hav called ur 2 lines na off/story dem deh tell me...

Am sorry about that sir, the number is on now.. When do you want it sir.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by chilanfarms(m): 6:59pm On Nov 09, 2015
tobbyte:
All i was sayin is for d first month oooo....after dat ur budget would b high...cus the more dey grow, the more dey consume feed...so as oga femmy said...budget 250 per fish to table size
#you can spend less than that...
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Willas04: 7:53pm On Nov 09, 2015
For high quality fingerlings in Port Harcourt, call or whatsapp us on 08056008258.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by soft777(m): 9:02pm On Nov 09, 2015
Ttalk:
@soft777
1. Please what sort of Fish Meal are you referring to? Is it foreign type e.g Danish that cost close to N30,000 for 50kg or the local Fishmeal that cost half of the foreign one for the same 50kg.

2. What are the additional secret of enhancing the quality of local fishmeal to attain similar crude protein as foreign Fishmeal?

3. What are/is the attractant/s that will increase the palatability of locally made feed?

4. W|hat best time to feed that will guarantee maximum FCR

5. If FCR =1.0, that means to attain 1kg of fish will require 1.2kg of feed or thereabout(having factored feed wastage into the calculation),
a. What shortest month will it require for a fish to consume 1.2kg of feed?
b. How can one manipulate feeding to ensure a fish consume 1.2kg of feed in less than 4months and still maintain FCR of 1.0
c. Is it possible to you to bring the cost of 1.2kg of local feed to N150 presently, and still maintain FCR of 1.0 - 1.2. If yes, give a formula that
can guarantee this

Please dont be offended if you are not comfortable with any of my question because your idea and experience with other professors on this thread is enough for us to design a workable feed formulation template that is cost effective and reduce to the barest minimum importation of any form of feed ingredient in the production of feed.

I look forward to your quick and reliable opinion
1.. foreign and local to me are the same, fish is fish every were either foreign or local fish is fish ..the only problem with local is that some sellers mix there local feed with other adultrated material just to increase the volume ..that is why people pre fare the foreign but if u get good locally made fish feed to me its thesame.

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by soft777(m): 9:10pm On Nov 09, 2015
Ttalk:
@soft777
1. Please what sort of Fish Meal are you referring to? Is it foreign type e.g Danish that cost close to N30,000 for 50kg or the local Fishmeal that cost half of the foreign one for the same 50kg.

2. What are the additional secret of enhancing the quality of local fishmeal to attain similar crude protein as foreign Fishmeal?

3. What are/is the attractant/s that will increase the palatability of locally made feed?

4. W|hat best time to feed that will guarantee maximum FCR

5. If FCR =1.0, that means to attain 1kg of fish will require 1.2kg of feed or thereabout(having factored feed wastage into the calculation),
a. What shortest month will it require for a fish to consume 1.2kg of feed?
b. How can one manipulate feeding to ensure a fish consume 1.2kg of feed in less than 4months and still maintain FCR of 1.0
c. Is it possible to you to bring the cost of 1.2kg of local feed to N150 presently, and still maintain FCR of 1.0 - 1.2. If yes, give a formula that
can guarantee this

Please dont be offended if you are not comfortable with any of my question because your idea and experience with other professors on this thread is enough for us to design a workable feed formulation template that is cost effective and reduce to the barest minimum importation of any form of feed ingredient in the production of feed.

I look forward to your quick and reliable opinion
2, to enhance u can use blood meal , feather meal , chcken ofal , fishoil , etc they come cheaper

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by soft777(m): 9:50pm On Nov 09, 2015
Ttalk:
@soft777
1. Please what sort of Fish Meal are you referring to? Is it foreign type e.g Danish that cost close to N30,000 for 50kg or the local Fishmeal that cost half of the foreign one for the same 50kg.

2. What are the additional secret of enhancing the quality of local fishmeal to attain similar crude protein as foreign Fishmeal?

3. What are/is the attractant/s that will increase the palatability of locally made feed?

4. W|hat best time to feed that will guarantee maximum FCR

5. If FCR =1.0, that means to attain 1kg of fish will require 1.2kg of feed or thereabout(having factored feed wastage into the calculation),
a. What shortest month will it require for a fish to consume 1.2kg of feed?
b. How can one manipulate feeding to ensure a fish consume 1.2kg of feed in less than 4months and still maintain FCR of 1.0
c. Is it possible to you to bring the cost of 1.2kg of local feed to N150 presently, and still maintain FCR of 1.0 - 1.2. If yes, give a formula that
can guarantee this

Please dont be offended if you are not comfortable with any of my question because your idea and experience with other professors on this thread is enough for us to design a workable feed formulation template that is cost effective and reduce to the barest minimum importation of any form of feed ingredient in the production of feed.

I look forward to your quick and reliable opinion
3 . most animal by products can be used for attractants . you can take some chicken intestine raw type, add some fresh water to it and pour the mixture in a sieve and put the basin under it as the chicken intestine sieve through. The liquid part enters the basin under the sieve, you will see a foul smell .is that smell that attracts catfish when , making your local feed, add this water to it ..this is an attractant its the smell that attracts them ..its like maggi in our food ... You can use fish with water and sieve .. you can use most animals by products as your attractants ..it will make your fish want to accept your local feed better 4. TO me i feed 2 times daily, very early in the morning between 7 and 8 am and towards evening between 7pm to 8pm, why is that, catfish in particular are photophobic means they dwell better in dark ..they are more active when natural lights are down or not up yet ... so this the time they use most of there energy cause they are more active , so when they feed early the feed help them sustain the energy lost during there most active time .. u can feed 3 times if ur system permits but best fcr is got when u feed, when natural light eg sun ,are down or not up . In nature catfish hunts for pray at night thats why u call them cat they are nuctional in nature 5.. Research has proven that when fish is 400g there growth rate decreases, this does not mean they dont grow but they grow slower than when the are fingerlings juvenile or jumbo .. so thats why u have to have a good feed formula reduced in price but have the balance diet needed for growth ... so fcr actually increase as they get more than 400 g but we need fcr to be reduced to make more profit so for grow out , 600 g and above a good cheap formula will make ur profit better ...
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by soft777(m): 9:53pm On Nov 09, 2015
oweniwe:
I've been silently reading this thread for long

I hope to start my farm in January... in wooden 18 * 9 feet framework supported on d under & sides with either old/new roofing sheets, PVC ceiling or plank sheets (d type used to demarcate large halls.... then finally cover it with tapauline.... get a plumber to install in, out &recirculatory pipes (d ponds will b long o.... not square)... then pump in water. I hope to spend 25-30k to build a ponds that way..... undecided

I hope to start with 4000 fingerlings... 2000 fingerlings per pond.... after a month, I know I'll have to build another pond.... till then... make man start first. tongue

before I start anything sha... I'll go to large pharmacy shops to look for growth stimulating drugs/mineral/vitamin/hunger stimulating drugs I can grind to powder, add to liquid catfish "growth" tonic, mix with floating feed , sun dry and give dem fingerlings chop for about a week , sort the bigger one, continue feed-drugging the bigger ones periodically till I run out of drugs or at 2nd month..... wink

the runts nko? na bakery waste den go dey chop till about 3moths and den sell off and use d funds realized to buy feeds for the bigger onesangry

if I can get 2500 fishes to 1kg in 4 months by drug-feeding (I'll stop drugging in 2nd month), no wahala cheesy

tell me what u think grin
Too much growth stimulant if not added properly u meet your fish dead the following day ..apart from that too much growth enhance drugs are toxtic to people who will consume it...plesas slow and staedy wins the race dont over drug your fish
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by soft777(m): 10:00pm On Nov 09, 2015
oweniwe:


I intend to use normal drugs... same as people use... not growth hormones.

For one to do any form of agriculture without manure/fertilizer/growth boost, to me, is stupidity...

the drugs additive will be small.... and will b applied at intervals... say I could give them drug mixed feed on Monday, Wednesday and Sunday for two weeks... not that I'll be feeding them drugs everyday... they will all die from exhaustion nau.

if I get concrete results after first 2 weeks, then I'll continue the routine till they reach 2 months.... by then, I'll have to stop giving them drugs cos their appetite will be so much.... I don't think I'll be able to match their food demands.

so from 3-4 months, I won't put drugs in their feeds again except I'm looking for trouble...

by the fourth month, all the drugs would have been out of their body wink
My brother the truth is , everybody wants fast growth you cant just use all human drugs for fish , we are mammals and fish are not our general anatomy is never thesame so pls dont use human drugs lol follow the general practices laid down on this thread by the fish gurus here and u profit GOD BLESS
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by soft777(m): 10:21pm On Nov 09, 2015
seskee:
Hello fellow farmers, i m a fresh catfish farmer.please i need ur advise and inputs as i start. @robonski15 and ab1x please how do i treat earthern pond before stocking as a friend told me to use lime and cultured chicken poo(to get maggot)
to treat then stock after 2 days. Please i need ur advise
yes your friend is correct .. lower the water in ur pond, if possible dry the pond .. leave it for 2 days to allow the air to aerate the soil properly . then add ur lime in the pond . the lime does 2 things it helps neutralise your water give it a good ph suitable for your fish at the same time since u have , little or no water in your pond , the lime is well concentrated or saturated .this state kills all unwanted left over fish , frogs, liches and insects in the pond. After 7 days fertalise with dry chicken waste for 3 days, this helps send nutrients to your water and give a good breeding ground for zooplanktons and phytoplanktons . There is nothing like maggot ..maggot dont live in ponds so your friend is wrong there .. These micro organisms are suplimentary live feed for fish .My brother if what u want is maggot for feeding fish you can ask and i will tell you how to make maggot at the back of your farm without offensive smell to feed your fish ...... DAPHINA ANOTHER GOOD CULTURE FOR FRIES AND FINGERLINGS LIVE FEED ::I WILL MAKE OUT TIME TO DO A SIMPLE EASY WRITE UP ON THAT TOPIC GOD BLESS:
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by soft777(m): 10:23pm On Nov 09, 2015
sweetseth:
Hi, everyone i just joined the thread. Am about to start fish farming at my backyard. The size of my concrete pond is 12ft by 18ft. I partitioned it into 3 making 12 by 6 each. Pls i need ur advice. How many fishes can do well in these sizes, what is d best feed, how do I feed them. Thanks
Answer to your question have been answered in many post on this tread read through again GOODLUCK

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