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Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by Gorodomu: 8:56pm On Mar 31, 2016
Hmmmmmm,On a good day Aribisala is a joker but he raised some valid points,
1.Our institutions need to be strong,d present structure of Efcc and Icpc cannot make it fight corruption effectively.Corruption agencies shld be controlled by an independent judiciary to ensure even d president can be investigated.
2.A system that allows a president to withdraw directly from d treasury without any form of check in place is definitely faulty,if we recover all d loot stolen by GEJ and co and we fail to change d system,it will grow wings again.
3.Drs no
how u can justify d fact that only petitions against PDP members see d light of day,any corrupt politician be it Apc or Pdp shld face d music squarely.
Finally Oga Sagay,U wld have simply made ur point without touching pples sense of self importance,I wonder hw old men like sagay who watched as Nigeria degenerated into its present situation think dy have d right to put down anybody.

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Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by fejicruz(m): 9:01pm On Mar 31, 2016
Criminal trial goes through a process. It's not the same thing as jungle justice.
Boss13:
Femi is right. Hard to agree but he is right. How many conviction cases so far - nil. There is corruption everywhere in Nigeria not just public offices. Also, why fight corruption and then influence your children's employment. I am just so disappointed with APC at the moment after all the support.

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Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by Egabs(m): 9:02pm On Mar 31, 2016
Mr Aribisala u re spot on I knw we still av sm nigerians that can still reason wth their head n nt anus pple like u n Fayose u av been telling this dullard lead govt the bitter truth and sm so call prof wll nt want to hear it but spot on dats y the greatest nigeria student wll clap fr u cus u heat the nail on d head. This govt is jst a joke hw can corruption fight corrucption infact am still claping after reading d speech u delieved may God continue to bless u.

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Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by justmenoni: 9:02pm On Mar 31, 2016
Did you read the post carefully? How can naira to dollar be 199 at official rate and 350 at black market? Isn't that corruption itself? How can cbn only recruit kids of top shot? What is the criteria been used in selecting our minister's? How can ameachi be under pdp all his political life and now he's in apc claiming to be a saint... Why is oby or sagay beating around the bush? They're part of the reason why a lot of nigerians are suffering now and sagay indirectly abusing Mr aribisala only shows that he himself ain't a serious element..



Ozid:
This Mr Aribisala is just making mockery of himself. If at this age of his he sees nothing bad in corruption then he need to have a brain check up.

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Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by uncjay(m): 9:04pm On Mar 31, 2016
989900:
Femi is a m0r0n.
I can imaging a better and more sophisticated m0r0n than you!!!
Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by theshadyexpress(m): 9:06pm On Mar 31, 2016
mideactive:
U see urself,wen Obj was fightin corrupt ppl,u guys said he was fightin his enemies.now u'r ar twistin it again dat pmb is fightin opposition.wat do u guys realy want?asides frm obj,did any other pdp president fight corruption?pmb hasn't changed anything,he's still using d instrument on ground,is dat a bad thing?at list all d people indicted ar still in court,juts granted bail.those dat mean d case is over?if pmb neglects court orders n put 'em in jail,u'l call him a dictator.be it apc/pdp,criminals ar being expossed.n dey 'l sure av der date in court.even d in ppl ar not denyin,wat ar u defending?



stop deceiving yourself, even when GEJ was stiil close with the PDP natl chaairman bamanga tukur he still proceeded to try his son for corruption, even ahmadu alli's son was not spared, can he be witch hunting his friend, yar'adua did same when he fired two ministers adenike grange and gabriel aduku for corruption. buhari surely sheilds corruption, till not even one APC is under investigation by the efcc aint that just plain hypocrisy

its hard to defend a bad product, i wish you best of luck

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Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by Ozid(m): 9:10pm On Mar 31, 2016
Amanwulu1:
who does not see wrong abt corptn? Is dat what u can make of his statement dat there's no war against coruptn? 4get d hypocrites accusing him of raising unproven allegatn. Is it unproven dat d ruling class employed their family members thro d back door in cbn? Or dat d govt has no respect 4 court order? Or dat many wit corrupt shout abt dem are romancing wit our govt n are delared saints on d ground of party affiliatn? Can't we put sentiment apart for once. I hold membership card of any party fyi.
Sir, I respect your opinion about this issue but my question is "where was Aribisala when Jonathan govt where meting hardship on the people. People like Aribisala are not happy with this govt because is not biz as usual. I will take Aribisala serious when he commend things that have been done well in this administration and bring out constructive criticism on any bad policy.

There is no country free of corruption and there might be pockets of corrupt activities going on in this govt but as i said Aribisala have no moral standi to critize this govt because he supported corrupt govt of Jonathan.
Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by 989900: 9:11pm On Mar 31, 2016
uncjay:


[s]I can imaging a better and more sophisticated m0r0n than you!!![/s]

It's a given, but, first learn proper use of the English language, then comeback.
Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by theshadyexpress(m): 9:11pm On Mar 31, 2016
Ghost01:
What's this one saying? What exact novel message did Aribisala pass? He ended up making no meaning, as Sagay rightly pointed out.

sagay was a simple zombie like all other APC goons attacking the applauding crowd and Femi

he had his chance to speak but he said nothing so he had to beg for another chance and in his emotiness for words to counter Femi's points he started attacking personalities

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Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by EROMS38(m): 9:12pm On Mar 31, 2016
Femi nailed it. Femi 3:0 Objs wife,Sagay..

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Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by vedaxcool(m): 9:13pm On Mar 31, 2016
[s]
theshadyexpress:


Look in the mirror you are the perfect sample of the illustration you gave
[/s]

Defender of corruption spotted.
Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by uncjay(m): 9:13pm On Mar 31, 2016
VickyRichmond:
People like Prof Sagah and Oby ekweseli are the reasons why young ppl don't respect old pple anymore,how will u insult students dat way and u expect them to do differently.Sagay said that they are not hear to make students clap,so they are there to force there views down the throat of the students.Oby said the students are on another level of corruption.That means they are not worthy of having an opinion in the matter of discussion,indirectly shouting them down.Instead of coming up with superior argument they are verbally abusing the students,instead of coming up with point to counter what the other speaker said,and later you see them advocating for child right(Bring back our girls).Bunch of hypocrites.
Do you expect clowns with no direction, and fatting under the umbrella of a corrupt system to come up with a more superior argument? Every objective mind will definitely reason alongside Aribisala's point of View. But not those idiots.

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Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by youngeagle(m): 9:15pm On Mar 31, 2016
We are domed,no sense of rationality again...its all about pitching a tent...damn FEMI bravo

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Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by TamunoRichard(m): 9:16pm On Mar 31, 2016
Ozid:
This Mr Aribisala is just making mockery of himself. If at this age of his he sees nothing bad in corruption then he need to have a brain check up.
all these illitrates with phone. Did he say there is nothing bad in corruption from what you read?
Somebody that defined corruption broadly, and made his argument that buhari isn't fighting corruption, but rather a fighting the opposition with his anti-corruption campaign. U are here misquoting someone after u couldn't read nd understand.
Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by theshadyexpress(m): 9:19pm On Mar 31, 2016
vedaxcool:
[s][/s]

Defender of corruption spotted.

zombie lord spotted

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Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by Theophrastus(m): 9:19pm On Mar 31, 2016
clefstone:
Hope Aribisala slap that fat, big nosed obasanjo girlfriend


Nope.......obj daughter
Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by mideactive: 9:22pm On Mar 31, 2016
Wat happened2 Bamanga tukur's son case,wer
Is he now?it's very unfortunate,yar'dua could av made lots of difference.but do u expect Buhari 2 sack a minister dat's yet to start work.stop finding fault 4 now,support him @list 4 now.if he fails,we can all talk.u ppl think u'r tryin 2 drag him down,it's not only him u'l drag down.u'l also drag d country down wit him.anyway,I don't knw whr u belong.I don't knw if it's Nigeria or Biafra

theshadyexpress:


stop deceiving yourself, even when GEJ was stiil close with the PDP natl chaairman bamanga tukur he still proceeded to try his son for corruption, even ahmadu alli's son was not spared, can he be witch hunting his friend, yar'adua did same when he fired two ministers adenike grange and gabriel aduku for corruption. buhari surely sheilds corruption, till not even one APC is under investigation by the efcc aint that just plain hypocrisy

its hard to defend a bad product, i wish you best of luck
Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by Anointed08(m): 9:22pm On Mar 31, 2016
The organisers of the roundtable discussion are to be blamed for inviting a public nuisance like Femi Aribisala to give talk.
Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by Spybradd: 9:24pm On Mar 31, 2016
Ozid:
This Mr Aribisala is just making mockery of himself. If at this age of his he sees nothing bad in corruption then he need to have a brain check up.

i am pretty sure you read the thread upside down..lollz

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Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by oduastates: 9:26pm On Mar 31, 2016
Aribinonsene.
Those who agreed to share a stage with the nuisance of a man have themselves to blame.
Everybody is corrupt does not mean that a fight against the ogre should be applauded.
On the students, Isn't it obvious that Nigerians are not educated to think? We cram our way through school and hungry stomach was always a recurring decimal after blowing all your funds on mammy holy water at the starts of the semester
This takes me back to what I said 2 days ago about how western countries groom people for leadership.
Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by uncjay(m): 9:26pm On Mar 31, 2016
989900:


It's a given, but, first learn proper use of the English language, then comeback.

Lolz..... Quite unfortunate show of shame...it a pity you take typo errors a benchmark for measuring one's understanding of use of english.

btw; na my papa tongue?.....u will be psychologically enslaved forever, at least you're still licking their asses.
Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by MrPresident1: 9:33pm On Mar 31, 2016
Mrjo:
WAHALA DEY! PEOPLE EYE DON CLEAR, BUT FOR UR INFO OGA TOP IS NT LIKE THE ONE THAT WILL SAY ' MY AMBTION DOES NOT WORTH BLOOD OF ANYBODY' SO IN 2019 WE MAY NOT SEE THEIR BACK.
.

Bros, you are very right jare, election 2019 will not be against 'my ambition is not worth is notvworth the blood of any Nigerian', it will be against 'dogs and baboons will be soaked in blood'. grin

Sai Baba!

ps: there is no 2019 though, Christ is already here.
Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by tete7000(m): 9:34pm On Mar 31, 2016
Deen77:


My question to Mr Femi is simple, is there no corrupt people in China we're they kill for corruption?. No country is totally free from corruption, Mr Femi is a PDP member where stealing is not corruption.

Very soon people we stone them, very soon.
.

Stone people who are already out of power? Maybe you mean to say soon people will stone apc who can't fulfil electoral promises and make life easy out of power. Attention has long shifted from pdp to apc.
Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by Nobody: 9:36pm On Mar 31, 2016
TANTUMERGO007:
grin femi will always carry the day grin

Yes o, you are very right! Only that he a confused idiot!!!
Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by Moheat(m): 9:39pm On Mar 31, 2016
Some times I wonder if this Amber Rose headed wide mouthed ugly woman knows what she is doing. This is a woman who served under PDP and even introduced the wackiest system of education in Nigeria. As if that was not enough she spearhead fraudulent #BBOG campaign to attract cheap popularity and succeeded in deceiving the gullible Nigerians yet the girls are no where to be found. Apparently, she is doing all these to curry favoour from the present administration.

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Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by Moheat(m): 9:39pm On Mar 31, 2016
Mr. Aribisala said the current fight against corruption by the President Muhammadu Buhari government is merely a fight against the Peoples’ Democratic Party (PDP). “We have to make up our minds if we really want to deal with the question of corruption. If we want to deal with the question of corruption, Nigerians themselves must insist on it and we have to deal with it at the institutional level,” he said. “The institutional fight against corruption that has taken place to the extent that it has, took place under PDP. The institutional structures, even the ones that the present government is relying on, are PDP structures. Whether it is EFCC, ICPC, TSA, all these came under PDP. “In ten months of Buhari’s government, there has been no institutional structure that has been laid against corruption. We have simple had media circuses accusing people of corruption. “You cannot fight corruption with corruption. And corruption is more than just the stealing of money. If you disobey the rule of law, you have corrupted the system. If you create an avenue where you have a big margin between the official foreign exchange rate and the parallel market rate, there’s gonna be corruption. If you have children of the rich getting into the CBN on nepotistic grounds, the corruption is still with you. “If you have a budget that is padded left right and centre, and after this was revealed you passed it and say only a small amount changed in it, and we do not know what is in the new budget, you can’t say you are against corruption. There is no transparency in any of these things.” Mr. Aribisala further stated that the current anti-corruption effort lacks a clear focus. “Because the last 16 years was not just PDP government,” he said. “The legacy parties of the APC were also in power. In fact when the PDP was ostensibly dealing with corruption, it addressed people in its own party. We are not having that now. “And that’s why I can’t trust Falana’s prescription that we are going to establish special courts. I don’t trust this government to establish those courts. They will simply establish courts to decimate the opposition. “People like Orubebe will be arrested, and they will file cases against him and several months later they will drop the charges against him. And they will have pronounced him guilty in the newspapers on charges that will later on be dropped. That is not a fight against corruption.”

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Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by dikeigbo2(m): 9:41pm On Mar 31, 2016
Intrepid01:

Did you read the write up at all? you are one of the reason why Nigeria is where it is today.


Don't mind them bro,they are the set of people that said, they don't eat rat,but divides it among the children with their teeth .....pretenders and deceivers.
Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by Moheat(m): 9:42pm On Mar 31, 2016
Moheat:
Mr. Aribisala said the current fight against corruption by the President Muhammadu Buhari government is merely a fight against the Peoples’ Democratic Party (PDP). “We have to make up our minds if we really want to deal with the question of corruption. If we want to deal with the question of corruption, Nigerians themselves must insist on it and we have to deal with it at the institutional level,” he said. “The institutional fight against corruption that has taken place to the extent that it has, took place under PDP. The institutional structures, even the ones that the present government is relying on, are PDP structures. Whether it is EFCC, ICPC, TSA, all these came under PDP. “In ten months of Buhari’s government, there has been no institutional structure that has been laid against corruption. We have simple had media circuses accusing people of corruption. “You cannot fight corruption with corruption. And corruption is more than just the stealing of money. If you disobey the rule of law, you have corrupted the system. If you create an avenue where you have a big margin between the official foreign exchange rate and the parallel market rate, there’s gonna be corruption. If you have children of the rich getting into the CBN on nepotistic grounds, the corruption is still with you. “If you have a budget that is padded left right and centre, and after this was revealed you passed it and say only a small amount changed in it, and we do not know what is in the new budget, you can’t say you are against corruption. There is no transparency in any of these things.” Mr. Aribisala further stated that the current anti-corruption effort lacks a clear focus. “Because the last 16 years was not just PDP government,” he said. “The legacy parties of the APC were also in power. In fact when the PDP was ostensibly dealing with corruption, it addressed people in its own party. We are not having that now. “And that’s why I can’t trust Falana’s prescription that we are going to establish special courts. I don’t trust this government to establish those courts. They will simply establish courts to decimate the opposition. “People like Orubebe will be arrested, and they will file cases against him and several months later they will drop the charges against him. And they will have pronounced him guilty in the newspapers on charges that will later on be dropped. That is not a fight against corruption.”
TKO. Nice one Femi Aribisala
Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by tobiasbeecher: 9:44pm On Mar 31, 2016
freeze001:
A classical representation of the playground bully who is usually a coward inside but puts on a false front of bravado because of his bigger size or in this case, the Dutch courage drawn from the elixir being in power. Rather than 'fight' with someone their size, they pick on 'easier prey'.

Ezekwesili and Sagay are just a tad bereft of ideas and comments with which to put down Femi's strong points and that is why they practically left the subject of discourse and started harassing students who clapped after listening to a speaker.

Femi was clear that there can be no acclaimed fight against corruption when the premise on which they rode into power was already corrupt. Glaring cases of nepotism, deliberate disregard of the rule of law and seeming concentration on people drawn from a particular group either due to their tribes or political affiliation are enough to rubbish the so called corruption fight. Students saw reason with both the content and form of his argument and showed their agreement in the most civil way possible, ie clapping.

Rather than address points raised and counter them or raise a more superior argument, they left Femi and attacked the students. I mean what is this?!



Or this?



Sagay, an erudite professor of law (as he then was), chose to attack the person of Femi and even draw Trump into the matter in referring to his idea of appreciation of unserious people. Tomorrow now if Donald Trump becomes POTUS, he will be one of those to wax poetic about how wonderful Trump is. So shameful!
I liked your comment not necessary because of the point you made (though you made a good point), but because of the way you write! You're a good writer!! Keep it up.

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Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by nigerianvenom(m): 9:46pm On Mar 31, 2016
odikimi:
Femi taken Falana, Sagay and that ugly bitch to the gutter.2019 pls come quickly
U are just on point.
Sagay, resorted to disgrace himself by defending the undefensable

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Re: Sagay, Ezekwesili, Aribisala Clash At Roundtable On Corruption War by omogin(f): 9:50pm On Mar 31, 2016
ogaontop:
Let Them Address The Issues He Raised
Their minds are too deranged to do that

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