Optimisticgondy:
Ah tell you..maybe someday, he'll ask anyone who had intimacy with their wives in that week to stand

I think hw wanted to know how much he would be making monthly and also to know if anybody owes and by hw much

"Never Expect Anything In Return From Anyone"
Who don't have much to offer when serious issues is been taken up,
Because they keep exposing their Ignorance when they open the Gutters the called Mouth to talk.
That pastor na thief someone should call EFCC oooooooooo

Nakairogold:
I dont believe this story.

I believe it baje, worse things are happening in those places oo

Babylon The Great, The World Empire of False Religion! The key part of which is Christendom. Revelation 18:4 warns, "get out of her my people if you do not wish to partake in her sins because her sins have massed up clear to heaven"

The only scripture they quote for the naive and gullible laity is Malachi 3:8,10 "can man rob God......" They deliberately and cunningly fail to tell their member the purpose for which God instituted tithing (being to support the ancient temple service and its priesthood both of which have ended). Ask them where the Aaronic priesthood is today or where the Levites are or where the temple is, they pretend it is them and their churches.

For this reason, God hinted about his anger and impending judgement on these scamming priests and 'men of God' at Jeremiah 5:26-31. There, God first calls them 'wicked men'. Next he clarifies that by use of deception, these pastors deliberately set traps to catch men. God also informs us that the pastors by means of this deceit have become very reach, powerful, fat and smooth. That they overflow with badness and evil. In verse 29 God asks, "should I not call these evil men into account?" Funny and surprising enough, God hints that the same people that are scammed and used LOVE IT SO (5:31).

For sincere Christians, we are not taken unawares by these scam artists for the Bible gave enough warnings regarding them at Act 20:29,30; Micah 3:11; Ephesians 4:14; 2 Corinthians 11:13; Jeremiah 23:11-14,21,25,27. He who has ears should hear.

My own problem is not about paying tithe but how can I calculate it? Some pastors confuse me a lot. If I collect a contract of 5M, and spent 3.5M to do the job and during that period i spent 500,000k for transportation and going around. Is my tithe not suppose to be 100,000k? I've heard some say when u collect the 5M pay your tithe that moment. Some will say when u collect your salary don't minus your expenses, just pay your tithe before removing it.

uyplus:


Special platform from which God? The God that created you isn't different from the God that created the muslims, the bahai's, nor the buddhist worshipper. How come he makes different demands to different faiths? Because he doesnt require tithes to be paid in Buddishm but he requests for that in Christianity. Religion is the opium of masses.

What do you know of Buddhism. The laws and so on.
They may have stricter laws than you think.
Muslims have sharing with neighbours and it can go to more than 20% of their salary etc.investigate it. Ask from real Muslims or Buddhist about their laws.

AS AN ATHEIST THIS IS PITIFUL

patostation:
Babylon The Great, The World Empire of False Religion! The key part of which is Christendom. Revelation 18:4 warns, "get out of her my people if you do not wish to partake in her sins because her sins have massed up clear to heaven"

The only scripture they quote for the naive and gullible laity is Malachi 3:8,10 "can man rob God......" They deliberately and cunningly fail to tell their member the purpose for which God instituted tithing (being to support the ancient temple service and its priesthood both of which have ended). Ask them where the Aaronic priesthood is today or where the Levites are or where the temple is, they pretend it is them and their churches.

For this reason, God hinted about his anger and impending judgement on these scamming priests and 'men of God' at Jeremiah 5:26-31. There, God first calls them 'wicked men'. Next he clarifies that by use of deception, these pastors deliberately set traps to catch men. God also informs us that the pastors by means of this deceit have become very reach, powerful, fat and smooth. That they overflow with badness and evil. In verse 29 God asks, "should I not call these evil men into account?" Funny and surprising enough, God hints that the same people that are scammed and used LOVE IT SO (5:31).

For sincere Christians, we are not taken unawares by these scam artists for the Bible gave enough warnings regarding them at Act 20:29,30; Micah 3:11; Ephesians 4:14; 2 Corinthians 11:13; Jeremiah 23:11-14,21,25,27. He who has ears should hear.

I think you know the Bible too much.
Ask God through the Holy Spirit to speak the truth about the topic to you audibly.!and then come back and read your post.

This happens when a robber call himself a Pas**r ;but those church members mumu die.

well to me as a pastor, i think your pastor has gone over the edge on this ISSUE, all he has to do is to teach on it and LEAVE the faithfullness of the members to GOD who will do the BLESSING. because whAT HE HAS JUST DONE WILL MAKE HIM LOOK LIKE A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING if he has good intentions.

If I happen to miss my way and find my self in such a gathering; I will just write this is bullshit on the paper and walk out of the shrine. Nonsense!

Pls can someone show me in the new New Testament where Jesus Christ taught about tithing cos pastors seems to only be quoting scriptures from the Old Testament. Jesus Christ taught more on helping the needy but nowadays Christians hardly help the needy. Where did Jesus Christ teach on tithing.

lordfemi:


I think you know the Bible too much.
Ask God through the Holy Spirit to speak the truth about the topic to you audibly.!and then come back and read your post.

My dear, it is not about knowing the Bible too much. It is about being equipped for every good work (2 Timothy 3:16,17).

If our Lord Jesus was not equipped, the devil would have deceived him after his 40 day fasting in the wilderness. Jesus always responded to Satan: "it is written..."

To avoid being deceived by religious conmen, we too must know the truth, and the truth will set us free from those wicked men (John 8:32).

Ephesians 6:11-18 says in part, "put on the complete duit of armour from God so that you may stand firm against the crafty acts of the devil...."

It pains me that "men of God" are profiting from lies by tickling the ears of the gullible, telling them false stories in order to collect their money (2 Timothy 4:3,4)

Are you a 'man of God'? Do you really have God's holy spirit?

Optimisticgondy:
This Happened In My Church Today


Pastor preached about tithing in church today, and after sermon, he asked all salary earners (private and public) to stand.

To my utmost perplexity, he (the Pastor) directed the Secretary to start writing their NAMES and their MONTHLY SALARIES respectively.

Will he start coercing them to pay tithes to him personally based on their monthly salaries or what? Is it compulsory for a Pastor to know his members' salaries? What does he want to do with it?
These are some of the questions that ran through my mind in church then. Till this moment, I seem not to know his intention until next week. I wonder what churches are turning to these days.

Does anyone have an idea of what he will likely do with their names and monthly salaries?

Then what is your intent posting it here you said he is ur pastor why not ask him. Why wash ur 'dirty lining' out side

What's proof this story is true , how many hours will it take so called secretary to be writing all the names and salary of members . Pastor is not here to defend himself . Anybody can post anything . But if the story were true firstly the pastor would have explained his reason . Secondly if he didn't you could have asked him after service

Stealthideals24:
That is RCCG. That church is something.

You're wrong

IRserveMyComent:

Then what is your intent posting it here you said he is ur pastor why not ask him. Why wash ur 'dirty lining' out side

Where is dirt washed if not outside? Abi nah for inside you dey wash your own ni?

Usain bolt,ben johnson and chioma ajunwa will be my portion in that church

Lolzzzzzz

pushkin:
Pls can someone show me in the new New Testament where Jesus Christ taught about tithing cos pastors seems to only be quoting scriptures from the Old Testament. Jesus Christ taught more on helping the needy but nowadays Christians hardly help the needy. Where did Jesus Christ teach on tithing.

Your question is very good. What Jesus and his disciples taught is voluntary giving. The disciples used to have a treasury box (Judas used to hold it). You are also familiar with the poor widow who dropped two small coins of little value which in the eyes of God amounted to more than what the rich were dropping into the box.

At 2 Corinthians 8:12 Bible talks about willingness and readiness of mind, that God accepts what a person has. Verse 14 talks of equalising from those who have more to balance for those who have little. At 2Corinthians 9:5 we are encouraged to give generously from our mind so that it will not look like we are being extorted. Verse 7 caps it all by saying that since God appreciates cheerful givers, we should resolve in our hearts to give not grudgingly or under compulsion.

This is the Christian way of giving, not by tithing. Any pastor tithing you today is deceiving you.

Op, what xactly do you want us to do about it here? Why don't u walk up to ur pastor and ask him the questions or does nairaland look like your church's headquarter?

Smh for some of us that call our selves Christians. May God have mercy on us all.

Optimisticgondy:
This Happened In My Church Today


Pastor preached about tithing in church today, and after sermon, he asked all salary earners (private and public) to stand.

To my utmost perplexity, he (the Pastor) directed the Secretary to start writing their NAMES and their MONTHLY SALARIES respectively.

Will he start coercing them to pay tithes to him personally based on their monthly salaries or what? Is it compulsory for a Pastor to know his members' salaries? What does he want to do with it?
These are some of the questions that ran through my mind in church then. Till this moment, I seem not to know his intention until next week. I wonder what churches are turning to these days.

Does anyone have an idea of what he will likely do with their names and monthly salaries?

It is wrong to say, you don't know what churches are turning into these days. Rather say, I don't know what my church is turning into these days.

pushkin:
Pls can someone show me in the new New Testament where Jesus Christ taught about tithing cos pastors seems to only be quoting scriptures from the Old Testament. Jesus Christ taught more on helping the needy but nowadays Christians hardly help the needy. Where did Jesus Christ teach on tithing.

Open your bible to Hebrew 7:8 - end

Joagbaje:

What's proof this story is true , how many hours will it take so called secretary to be writing all the names and salary of members . Pastor is not here to defend himself . Anybody can post anything . But if the story were true firstly the pastor would have explained his reason . Secondly if he didn't you could have asked him after service

You are here defending yourself already Sir. God should punish me if it didn't happen in my church today. Don't worry, I'll ask him next week, I was so angry today that I left church immediately after service.

Rebuke:
Op, what xactly do you want us to do about it here? Why don't u walk up to ur pastor and ask him the questions or does nairaland look like your church's headquarter?

Smh for some of us that call our selves Christians. May God have mercy on us all.

What are you driving at? Are you one of them who benefit from tithes proceed in your church. Take time o

patostation:


Your question is very good. What Jesus and his disciples taught is voluntary giving. The disciples used to have a treasury box (Judas used to hold it). You are also familiar with the poor widow who dropped two small coins of little value which in the eyes of God amounted to more than what the rich were dropping into the box.

At 2 Corinthians 8:12 Bible talks about willingness and readiness of mind, that God accepts what a person has. Verse 14 talks of equalising from those who have more to balance for those who have little. At 2Corinthians 9:5 we are encouraged to give generously from our mind so that it will not look like we are being extorted. Verse 7 caps it all by saying that since God appreciates cheerful givers, we should resolve in our hearts to give not grudgingly or under compulsion.

This is the Christian way of giving, not by tithing. Any pastor tithing you today is deceiving you.

Go and study Hebrew 7:8-28

soulpeppersoup:


It is wrong to say, you don't know what churches are turning into these days. Rather say, I don't know what my church is turning into these days.

You're funny. Are you in Mars or what not to be aware of the rampant vices in churches these days? Can you mention your church's name here so we point out their own weaknesses. Oga, no church is left out, i think. For your information, I'm in church to serve God and not any Pastor. If my pastor's teachings are not biblical, i leave such church. I can no longer be brainwashed at this level.

What am i even saying, i should have known you dey chop peppersoup on souls in your church going by your handle "soulpeppersoup"...hahaha

Optimisticgondy:
Where is dirt washed if not outside? Abi nah for inside you dey wash your own ni?

Your English teacher/lecturer has bagged a query for this question.

IRserveMyComent:

Your English teacher/lecturer has bagged a query for this question.

hahaha..I'm telling you your proverb is wrong, aunty..better enrol in my English college.

annunaki2:


Church tithing today from monetary income is a man made doctrine that is derived from twisting scriptures.

Malachi 3:8-12

Optimisticgondy:
hahaha..I'm telling you your proverb is wrong, aunty..better enrol in my English college.

You came here to mock your pastor, on sunday you would still go back.

IRserveMyComent:
You came here to mock your pastor, on sunday you would still go back.

Oh oh, so you're one of those who worship pastors? Yes! I'll go on Sunday to know ask him reasons for that..I go to church to serve God and not pastor. It's obvious you're one of those who worship pastors, even if he is a fake one...this is not mockery but reality and it's strange to me and that's why i had to bring it on here. By the way, can you point to where I mentioned his name or my church's name?

Do you want to know the reason I brought it here? To make other pastors on this forum who may want to try it in their churches to know it's wrong to do that and also, to enlighten churchgoers so as not to agree with their pastors if they try it with them tomorrow