AccidentalGenius:
there's this saying i've always stuck with "with age comes knowledge and reasoning" they're still young. When they grow up they'll see the world for how it truely is. Religion promoting more hate than it does love. Religion that aims to control people. Religion that seperates people. A so called god that lets the helpless suffer yet killing people who won't belive in his arabian son. Don't let me get started on how he was even born. We humans always want to believe in hope, because the truth is it keeps us going in hope for a better tomorrow. The only difference between a religion and a superstition is the degree of social acceptance it receives. With time, those who really want to know the truth will open their eyes and ears. Listen to yourself. That little voice telling you to question everything. Ignore that false fear christianity imbues in you, telling you youll burn in hell for something as simple as having free will. Why would a god kill burn someone in hell for ever just because he wont believe in his arabian son? As a human, even if its someone who killed our relative sure we'd want him to suffer but not for eternity.

I met a man yesterday. He used to be a millionaire, infact if not for misfortunes that befell him, he would be a billionaire (in naira) today.
He was a freethinker when he was rich but he is now a pastor after losing all his money.
He was now saying we should all try to serve God o. I just smiled. Even the bible says if you fail in the day of adversity, your strength is small.
I realized he became helpless and confused and had no strength to cope.
He was told it was the purpose of God that he loes everything so he can serve God. And he believed the poo.

You know it is just best you leave people with their religion. Most of them, it's their only hope. They need to keep that illusion that god is taking care of them. So I don't blame them.

You need to be very strong and straight to dump religion

HardMirror:

I met a man yesterday. He used to be a millionaire, infact if not for misfortunes that befell him, he would be a billionaire (in naira) today.
He was a freethinker when he was rich but he is now a pastor after losing all his money.
He was now saying we should all try to serve God o. I just smiled. Even the bible says if you fail in the day of adversity, your strength is small.
I realized he became helpless and confused and had no strength to cope.
He was told it was the purpose of God that he loes everything so he can serve God. And he believed the poo.

You know it is just best you leave people with their religion. Most of them, it's their only hope. They need to keep that illusion that god is taking care of them. So I don't blame them.

You need to be very strong and straight to dump religion

thats just the plain undiluted truth. There's no need to argue with them. Some will realise it sooner or later. We are our own gods. Everything we do or get is as a result of our own actions. Nothing more.

Hardmirror!

This epistle will be the final straw that 'll brake the camels back, lots of religionist who have been nursing doubt will make a complete u turn upon going through ur write-up, its either they become an agnostic or an atheist.

Sometimes I hope there is a God that cares and loves humans unconditionally.

For those having doubt and scared of their lack/shaky faith, I should tell u, "it aint easy." It aint easy to become an atheist/agnostic, it aint easy trying to clean up indoctrination, it aint easy questioning established concept/ideas,... It aint easy

But I tell u, after passing through this circles of disbelieve to self actualization, it would have been worth it.

Look around u, we are all alone.

When I see the way people sing in church, It is all that gives them hope. I dont want to take away anybody's happiness by telling them all we do in churches are charade and there is no God.

keenn:
Hardmirror!

This epistle will be the final straw that 'll brake the camels back, lots of religionist who have been nursing doubt will make a complete u turn upon going through ur write-up, its either they become an agnostic or an atheist.

Sometimes I hope there is a God that cares and loves humans unconditionally.

For those having doubt and scared of their lack/shaky faith, I should tell u, "it aint easy." It aint easy to become an atheist/agnostic, it aint easy trying to clean up indoctrination, it aint easy questioning established concept/ideas,... It aint easy

But I tell u, after passing through this circles of disbelieve to self actualization, it would have been worth it.

Look around u, we are all alone.

bro, what youve said here is one of the hardest realisations to come to. Some people cannot just live without the belief that a skydaddy is there to pick their calls. Im also of the opinion that some people should just remain religious

opeyemiolu:
When I see the way people sing in church, It is all that gives them hope. I dont want to take away anybody's happiness by telling them all we do in churches are charade and there is no God.

The fallacy in this is thinking you are actually taking away their happiness. You aregiving them freedom and autonomy.

Their present happiness in a Religious state is nothing but an illusion... God will keep on disappointing them and they will keep making excuses for him until depression sets in = neurosis.

Two ground breaking threads in Nairaland religious section back to back........


This very thread (part 1&2) and the thread that exposed with jagbade's lies that he healed a HIV patient.

Hardmirror

Kudos on your post. I think you actually concluded your conversion story in your 1st thread. I suspect this thread only gives meat to your arguments.

You were once a christian, so I am sure you'd understand the feeling of those of us that will try to shut you up, insult you, and condemn you to hell.

Interestingly, even some of the apostles if they were around, might do the same. Its human nature and hardly peculiar to christians.

However, lets assume that Jesus actually was what he was made out to be (I believe he was, and let's not bother about the concept of God at this point).. I am convinced that he would not have condemned you, then and even now. In fact, I suspect that he would have rebuked the christian hawks circling you right now

..he probably would have with a smile told you "come"

You have experienced the fire of logic, which as burnt and is still burning away illogicals from where they were enthroned in your innermost recess. If for any reason you get into the faith again, it would be as a finer you without the frivolity of absurdities.

Till then, stay blessed beloved of Christ

@hardmirrow.

The more i read your story the more my faith grows stronger and stronger in the Lord.


Mmmmm, time will not permit me to say one or two things here.


How i wish i could be able to meet you one on one.

After taking my time to see where you got it wrong, i could not be able to arrived on anything except the issue of hellfire which you raised. And yet you miss the points entirely and that is pathetic.

But i bet you with my life, if you claim to be a preacher of the gospel and have done so many miracle, having won thousands of souls to God, but eventually fall away because of hellfire.

Sir you were a baby Christian. I repeat you were a baby Christian.

You're building your house on a sandy foundation, but a little bruise shake ur house (soul) you fell head over heel.

2 any Christian who stumbled out of faith because of these show of shame i saw here that individual is just a baby and foolish Christian like you. Pls Accept my apology.

Sir, when you're in the light, you introduce yourself to your listeners, everybody knows your name, but now that you're in darkness, (secret) you re hiding ur identity. Now can you see the difference between light and darkness Again you even appear here as hardmirow on your moniker.

Now i bet you again with my life that you're not a Christian from onset, this your name Hardmirrow, came out from the pit of hell. Initially i wanted to implore all believers to pray for you, but i have just realised through the spirit of God that, it is relevant and you re never a Christian in the first place.

So you're only here to discredit Jesus and his disciples.

But since people like me is on these forum, you have failed woefully.

I have a personal experience with Jesus. So no mortal being can deceived me.

1 God have showed me the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. How Jesus was crucified on the cross.
This is not a television or video.

2 in my revelation i have seen the gate of heaven. I was inside a car, were i was resting a lone as a security guard then, because of fear in the midnight. I Suddenly
slept off, i then notice that some group of people came to me unaware, and set the car on fire and i was inside the car, then my soul left my body and i found my self on a very big and wonderful city nothing to compare the beauty in this world, i was amazed and wandering as per where are mine, as i looked up in front of me i saw a very beautiful gate just like a palace gate and walls, then i noticed an inscription on the wall In two different places, behold the first one was Joseph and his wife Mary and the little boy Jesus in their middle, then the second one was Jesus with his twelve disciples and a table in their midst. I will not be able to say this is peter or John.
since i have never met them before. When i came back to myself behold it was a dream.

3 Jesus have appeared to me in the sky like a sun, his eyes were red as fire full of anger warning me to change from my ways and do what he has instructed me to do, or else he will destroy me. Though he never say a word but i read what he was saying with my mind. I understand him perfectly.

4 i have seen how he is going to destroy man kinds from the face of the earth in my revelations, my brothers and sisters it is very terrible, infact that revelation alone made me to repent in dust and ashes. This is what people popularly referred as the END of the WORLD.

@hardmirrow i initially wanted to put you in my prayers for God to arrest you back until i finds out that you just made up these stories to deceive the baby Christians and satisfied the work of your father the Devil, but thank God you have been exposed.

Incase you don.t know, i have given out my names and my phone numbers on these forum in so many thread here on nairaland. Am bro George Nwaneri. Though i was formally ordained in the office of an avangelist.
But i preferred people to calling me brother. I don.t need any title.
You can never cover up light. I don.t need to hide my identity since i have nothing to hide. And am not in any dubious activities.

My work is full of light, and there is no atom of darkness in it.

Anyone who is still doubting Christianity have never encountered Christ.


But if there is any way you were once a Christian, which i doubted, mmmmm, our Lord Jesus Christ is a master planner.

Finally once again your post has made me to reaffirmed myself in the Lord.
Thank you.

^^

@point 4: the fear of the destruction u saw in your vision whipped u in line; same fear that keeps Christianity going. What is the correlation between love and fear? You are still a 'baby christian' if fear is what has been keeping u in line.

opeyemiolu:
When I see the way people sing in church, It is all that gives them hope. I dont want to take away anybody's happiness by telling them all we do in churches are charade and there is no God.

Noticed you from the very beginning of my other thread. Always reading without commenting, but you were always there.

Yes, it would be wicked to to take that away from them. Reason why I keep repeating it that my story is not to convert anyone but make information and my experience available with those struggling with their religious inclination.

MaziOmenuko:
^^

@point 4: the fear of the destruction u saw in your vision whipped u in line; same fear that keeps Christianity going. What is the correlation between love and fear? You are still a 'baby christian' if fear is what has been keeping u in line.

Mmmmm, you will not understand, no body will what i saw and will not panic. Yes then am still a baby Christian.

If you have been following my threads you will know that i have no business with hell or fear of hell. But i believe there is heaven and i don.t want to miss it,

2 when you re under a bridge and a trailer suddenly fells of the bridge coming direct your head do you stand there laughing sheepishly or do you take to ur heel if you even have the strength to do so

Princewell2012:
@hardmirrow.

The more i read your story the more my faith grows stronger and stronger in the Lord.


Mmmmm, time will not permit me to say one or two things here.


How i wish i could be able to meet you one on one.

After taking my time to see where you got it wrong, i could not be able to arrived on anything except the issue of hellfire which you raised. And yet you miss the points entirely and that is pathetic.

But i bet you with my life, if you claim to be a preacher of the gospel and have done so many miracle, having won thousands of souls to God, but eventually fall away because of hellfire.

Sir you were a baby Christian. I repeat you were a baby Christian.

You're building your house on a sandy foundation, but a little bruise shake ur house (soul) you fell head over heel.

2 any Christian who stumbled out of faith because of these show of shame i saw here that individual is just a baby and foolish Christian like you. Pls Accept my apology.

Sir, when you're in the light, you introduce yourself to your listeners, everybody knows your name, but now that you're in darkness, (secret) you re hiding ur identity. Now can you see the difference between light and darkness Again you even appear here as hardmirow on your moniker.

Now i bet you again with my life that you're not a Christian from onset, this your name Hardmirrow, came out from the pit of hell. Initially i wanted to implore all believers to pray for you, but i have just realised through the spirit of God that, it is relevant and you re never a Christian in the first place.

So you're only here to discredit Jesus and his disciples.

But since people like me is on these forum, you have failed woefully.

I have a personal experience with Jesus. So no mortal being can deceived me.

1 God have showed me the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. How Jesus was crucified on the cross.
This is not a television or video.

2 in my revelation i have seen the gate of heaven. I was inside a car, were i was resting a lone as a security guard then, because of fear in the midnight. I Suddenly
slept off, i then notice that some group of people came to me unaware, and set the car on fire and i was inside the car, then my soul left my body and i found my self on a very big and wonderful city nothing to compare the beauty in this world, i was amazed and wandering as per where are mine, as i looked up in front of me i saw a very beautiful gate just like a palace gate and walls, then i noticed an inscription on the wall In two different places, behold the first one was Joseph and his wife Mary and the little boy Jesus in their middle, then the second one was Jesus with his twelve disciples and a table in their midst. I will not be able to say this is peter or John.
since i have never met them before. When i came back to myself behold it was a dream.

3 Jesus have appeared to me in the sky like a sun, his eyes were red as fire full of anger warning me to change from my ways and do what he has instructed me to do, or else he will destroy me. Though he never say a word but i read what he was saying with my mind. I understand him perfectly.

4 i have seen how he is going to destroy man kinds from the face of the earth in my revelations, my brothers and sisters it is very terrible, infact that revelation alone made me to repent in dust and ashes. This is what people popularly referred as the END of the WORLD.

@hardmirrow i initially wanted to put you in my prayers for God to arrest you back until i finds out that you just made up these stories to deceive the baby Christians and satisfied the work of your father the Devil, but thank God you have been exposed.

Incase you don.t know, i have given out my names and my phone numbers on these forum in so many thread here on nairaland. Am bro George Nwaneri. Though i was formally ordained in the office of an avangelist.
But i preferred people to calling me brother. I don.t need any title.
You can never cover up light. I don.t need to hide my identity since i have nothing to hide. And am not in any dubious activities.

My work is full of light, and there is no atom of darkness in it.

Anyone who is still doubting Christianity have never encountered Christ.


But if there is any way you were once a Christian, which i doubted, mmmmm, our Lord Jesus Christ is a master planner.

Finally once again your post has made me to reaffirmed myself in the Lord.
Thank you.

I am speechless

MaziOmenuko:
^^

@point 4: the fear of the destruction u saw in your vision whipped u in line; same fear that keeps Christianity going. What is the correlation between love and fear? You are still a 'baby christian' if fear is what has been keeping u in line.

Mmmmm, you will not understand, no body sees will what i saw and will not panic. Yes then am still a baby Christian.

If you have been following my threads you will know that i have no business with hell or fear of hell. But i believe there is heaven and i don.t want to miss it,

2 when you re under a bridge and a trailer suddenly fells of the bridge coming direct your head do you stand there laughing sheepishly or do you take to ur heel if you even have the strength to do so

Princewell2012:


Mmmmm, you will not understand, no body will what i saw and will not panic. Yes then am still a baby Christian.

Your fate becomes a function of fear: it's not a father-son relationship like you will love to potray; it's a master-slave relationship, you can deny it allnyou like. Fear of hell, fear of destruction, fear of the wrath of your God keeps you in line. I don't envy you one bit. Just hope the truth will one day set you free.

urahara:


I am speechless

My brother, ee reach to be speechless.

MaziOmenuko:
^^

@point 4: the fear of the destruction u saw in your vision whipped u in line; same fear that keeps Christianity going. What is the correlation between love and fear? You are still a 'baby christian' if fear is what has been keeping u in line.

Sir Mazi,
Are you taking the clown serious? Read the whole gibberish he wrote and I most confesses he made the least sense so far from all replies I have gotten.

MaziOmenuko:


Your fate becomes a function of fear: it's not a father-son relationship like you will love to potray; it's a master-slave relationship, you can deny it allnyou like. Fear of hell, fear of destruction, fear of the wrath of your God keeps you in line. I don't envy you one bit. Just hope the truth will one day set you free.



My brother, ee reach to be speechless.

As in serious Oxymoron.

Princewell2012:
@hardmirrow.

The more i read your story the more my faith grows stronger and stronger in the Lord.


Mmmmm, time will not permit me to say one or two things here.


How i wish i could be able to meet you one on one.

After taking my time to see where you got it wrong, i could not be able to arrived on anything except the issue of hellfire which you raised. And yet you miss the points entirely and that is pathetic.

But i bet you with my life, if you claim to be a preacher of the gospel and have done so many miracle, having won thousands of souls to God, but eventually fall away because of hellfire.

Sir you were a baby Christian. I repeat you were a baby Christian.

You're building your house on a sandy foundation, but a little bruise shake ur house (soul) you fell head over heel.

2 any Christian who stumbled out of faith because of these show of shame i saw here that individual is just a baby and foolish Christian like you. Pls Accept my apology.

Sir, when you're in the light, you introduce yourself to your listeners, everybody knows your name, but now that you're in darkness, (secret) you re hiding ur identity. Now can you see the difference between light and darkness Again you even appear here as hardmirow on your moniker.

Now i bet you again with my life that you're not a Christian from onset, this your name Hardmirrow, came out from the pit of hell. Initially i wanted to implore all believers to pray for you, but i have just realised through the spirit of God that, it is relevant and you re never a Christian in the first place.

So you're only here to discredit Jesus and his disciples.

But since people like me is on these forum, you have failed woefully.

I have a personal experience with Jesus. So no mortal being can deceived me.

1 God have showed me the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. How Jesus was crucified on the cross.
This is not a television or video.

2 in my revelation i have seen the gate of heaven. I was inside a car, were i was resting a lone as a security guard then, because of fear in the midnight. I Suddenly
slept off, i then notice that some group of people came to me unaware, and set the car on fire and i was inside the car, then my soul left my body and i found my self on a very big and wonderful city nothing to compare the beauty in this world, i was amazed and wandering as per where are mine, as i looked up in front of me i saw a very beautiful gate just like a palace gate and walls, then i noticed an inscription on the wall In two different places, behold the first one was Joseph and his wife Mary and the little boy Jesus in their middle, then the second one was Jesus with his twelve disciples and a table in their midst. I will not be able to say this is peter or John.
since i have never met them before. When i came back to myself behold it was a dream.

3 Jesus have appeared to me in the sky like a sun, his eyes were red as fire full of anger warning me to change from my ways and do what he has instructed me to do, or else he will destroy me. Though he never say a word but i read what he was saying with my mind. I understand him perfectly.

4 i have seen how he is going to destroy man kinds from the face of the earth in my revelations, my brothers and sisters it is very terrible, infact that revelation alone made me to repent in dust and ashes. This is what people popularly referred as the END of the WORLD.

@hardmirrow i initially wanted to put you in my prayers for God to arrest you back until i finds out that you just made up these stories to deceive the baby Christians and satisfied the work of your father the Devil, but thank God you have been exposed.

Incase you don.t know, i have given out my names and my phone numbers on these forum in so many thread here on nairaland. Am bro George Nwaneri. Though i was formally ordained in the office of an avangelist.
But i preferred people to calling me brother. I don.t need any title.
You can never cover up light. I don.t need to hide my identity since i have nothing to hide. And am not in any dubious activities.

My work is full of light, and there is no atom of darkness in it.

Anyone who is still doubting Christianity have never encountered Christ.


But if there is any way you were once a Christian, which i doubted, mmmmm, our Lord Jesus Christ is a master planner.

Finally once again your post has made me to reaffirmed myself in the Lord.
Thank you.

your post is filled with so more terror and threats...how contradicting it is to say u have a loving and caring God who will set millions upon millions of people on fire for not believing in Him? pls answer this.

Princewell2012:
@hardmirrow.

The more i read your story the more my faith grows stronger and stronger in the Lord.


Mmmmm, time will not permit me to say one or two things here.


How i wish i could be able to meet you one on one.

After taking my time to see where you got it wrong, i could not be able to arrived on anything except the issue of hellfire which you raised. And yet you miss the points entirely and that is pathetic.

But i bet you with my life, if you claim to be a preacher of the gospel and have done so many miracle, having won thousands of souls to God, but eventually fall away because of hellfire.

Sir you were a baby Christian. I repeat you were a baby Christian.

You're building your house on a sandy foundation, but a little bruise shake ur house (soul) you fell head over heel.

2 any Christian who stumbled out of faith because of these show of shame i saw here that individual is just a baby and foolish Christian like you. Pls Accept my apology.

Sir, when you're in the light, you introduce yourself to your listeners, everybody knows your name, but now that you're in darkness, (secret) you re hiding ur identity. Now can you see the difference between light and darkness Again you even appear here as hardmirow on your moniker.

Now i bet you again with my life that you're not a Christian from onset, this your name Hardmirrow, came out from the pit of hell. Initially i wanted to implore all believers to pray for you, but i have just realised through the spirit of God that, it is relevant and you re never a Christian in the first place.

So you're only here to discredit Jesus and his disciples.

But since people like me is on these forum, you have failed woefully.

I have a personal experience with Jesus. So no mortal being can deceived me.

1 God have showed me the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. How Jesus was crucified on the cross.
This is not a television or video.

2 in my revelation i have seen the gate of heaven. I was inside a car, were i was resting a lone as a security guard then, because of fear in the midnight. I Suddenly
slept off, i then notice that some group of people came to me unaware, and set the car on fire and i was inside the car, then my soul left my body and i found my self on a very big and wonderful city nothing to compare the beauty in this world, i was amazed and wandering as per where are mine, as i looked up in front of me i saw a very beautiful gate just like a palace gate and walls, then i noticed an inscription on the wall In two different places, behold the first one was Joseph and his wife Mary and the little boy Jesus in their middle, then the second one was Jesus with his twelve disciples and a table in their midst. I will not be able to say this is peter or John.
since i have never met them before. When i came back to myself behold it was a dream.

3 Jesus have appeared to me in the sky like a sun, his eyes were red as fire full of anger warning me to change from my ways and do what he has instructed me to do, or else he will destroy me. Though he never say a word but i read what he was saying with my mind. I understand him perfectly.

4 i have seen how he is going to destroy man kinds from the face of the earth in my revelations, my brothers and sisters it is very terrible, infact that revelation alone made me to repent in dust and ashes. This is what people popularly referred as the END of the WORLD.

@hardmirrow i initially wanted to put you in my prayers for God to arrest you back until i finds out that you just made up these stories to deceive the baby Christians and satisfied the work of your father the Devil, but thank God you have been exposed.

Incase you don.t know, i have given out my names and my phone numbers on these forum in so many thread here on nairaland. Am bro George Nwaneri. Though i was formally ordained in the office of an avangelist.
But i preferred people to calling me brother. I don.t need any title.
You can never cover up light. I don.t need to hide my identity since i have nothing to hide. And am not in any dubious activities.

My work is full of light, and there is no atom of darkness in it.

Anyone who is still doubting Christianity have never encountered Christ.


But if there is any way you were once a Christian, which i doubted, mmmmm, our Lord Jesus Christ is a master planner.

Finally once again your post has made me to reaffirmed myself in the Lord.
Thank you.

Lol...you saw Joseph and Mary and Baby Jesus. Was this a pix? So there is picture in hevean? So were they whites or black or mixed race?

So Jesus got so angry with u not living right that he had to appear on the sky with fire in his eyes. Were u the only sinner on earth at that time? So why didn't he just appear at once to every one not living right?

You had a dream of a big beautiful gate and all of a sudden u have seen heavens gate. Your God obviously does not want people to take him seriously. So he expects every one to believe in YOUR dream?

Three different funny dreams, only you. In your head, everything is happening, yet you want people to take you serious.

So was it holy spirit that told you that hard mirror is only making up the story? Or did you just guess this?

Hard... Something strong
Mirrow: a reflection glass.

How are these two words joint together from the pit of hell? Did u see this from one of ur dreams?

I think u need help.

the bible already says...

And he [further] told me, Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book and make no secret of them, for the time [b]when things are brought to a crisis and the period of their fulfillment is near.

11He who is unrighteous (unjust, wicked), let him be unrighteous still; and he who is filthy (vile, impure), let him be filthy still; and he who is righteous (just, upright, in right standing with God), let him do right still; and he who is holy, let him be holy still.(D)

^^same fear and slave-master relationship, nothing new, same old terrifying bullshit that whips the weary mind in line.

Princewell2012:
@hardmirrow.

The more i read your story the more my faith grows stronger and stronger in the Lord.


Mmmmm, time will not permit me to say one or two things here.


How i wish i could be able to meet you one on one.

After taking my time to see where you got it wrong, i could not be able to arrived on anything except the issue of hellfire which you raised. And yet you miss the points entirely and that is pathetic.

But i bet you with my life, if you claim to be a preacher of the gospel and have done so many miracle, having won thousands of souls to God, but eventually fall away because of hellfire.

Sir you were a baby Christian. I repeat you were a baby Christian.

You're building your house on a sandy foundation, but a little bruise shake ur house (soul) you fell head over heel.

2 any Christian who stumbled out of faith because of these show of shame i saw here that individual is just a baby and foolish Christian like you. Pls Accept my apology.

Sir, when you're in the light, you introduce yourself to your listeners, everybody knows your name, but now that you're in darkness, (secret) you re hiding ur identity. Now can you see the difference between light and darkness Again you even appear here as hardmirow on your moniker.

Now i bet you again with my life that you're not a Christian from onset, this your name Hardmirrow, came out from the pit of hell. Initially i wanted to implore all believers to pray for you, but i have just realised through the spirit of God that, it is relevant and you re never a Christian in the first place.

So you're only here to discredit Jesus and his disciples.

But since people like me is on these forum, you have failed woefully.

I have a personal experience with Jesus. So no mortal being can deceived me.

1 God have showed me the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. How Jesus was crucified on the cross.
This is not a television or video.

2 in my revelation i have seen the gate of heaven. I was inside a car, were i was resting a lone as a security guard then, because of fear in the midnight. I Suddenly
slept off, i then notice that some group of people came to me unaware, and set the car on fire and i was inside the car, then my soul left my body and i found my self on a very big and wonderful city nothing to compare the beauty in this world, i was amazed and wandering as per where are mine, as i looked up in front of me i saw a very beautiful gate just like a palace gate and walls, then i noticed an inscription on the wall In two different places, behold the first one was Joseph and his wife Mary and the little boy Jesus in their middle, then the second one was Jesus with his twelve disciples and a table in their midst. I will not be able to say this is peter or John.
since i have never met them before. When i came back to myself behold it was a dream.

3 Jesus have appeared to me in the sky like a sun, his eyes were red as fire full of anger warning me to change from my ways and do what he has instructed me to do, or else he will destroy me. Though he never say a word but i read what he was saying with my mind. I understand him perfectly.

4 i have seen how he is going to destroy man kinds from the face of the earth in my revelations, my brothers and sisters it is very terrible, infact that revelation alone made me to repent in dust and ashes. This is what people popularly referred as the END of the WORLD.

@hardmirrow i initially wanted to put you in my prayers for God to arrest you back until i finds out that you just made up these stories to deceive the baby Christians and satisfied the work of your father the Devil, but thank God you have been exposed.

Incase you don.t know, i have given out my names and my phone numbers on these forum in so many thread here on nairaland. Am bro George Nwaneri. Though i was formally ordained in the office of an avangelist.
But i preferred people to calling me brother. I don.t need any title.
You can never cover up light. I don.t need to hide my identity since i have nothing to hide. And am not in any dubious activities.

My work is full of light, and there is no atom of darkness in it.

Anyone who is still doubting Christianity have never encountered Christ.


But if there is any way you were once a Christian, which i doubted, mmmmm, our Lord Jesus Christ is a master planner.

Finally once again your post has made me to reaffirmed myself in the Lord.
Thank you.

Nigga!

U no try well, at all

U gave us a vivid picture of what should scare good seeking Christians from knowing that type of God, u laid emphasis on destruction, anger and fire.

If such God exist, I wonder how he seek so much delight on threat, threatening low life mortals with raging fire, I fear oooo.

My brother, what u dreamt of was just ur mind creating an oasis for u. U were working as a security man at night, and got scared, am sure when u woke up u got better and energized...that's the beauty about religion, HOPE! It gives it in time of distress.

Have followed this topic right from part 1 to 2,all I can say is hmmmm,
Alot of folks reading this are going to start re-thinking all the have learnt and known before.
But one thing from the writeup and comments that is TRUE are these words.
All thinking men are atheists -- Ernest Hemingway

Some people worship deities that give them Odeshi. Let me give a brief background information of what Odeshi means.


The word Odeshi is simply a compression of
this Igbo sentence, "O dighi eshi" which
literally means, "It is not leaking". Odeshi
was popularised during the reign of the
dreaded Bakassi Boys in the dark ages of the Mbadinuju
Administration when they were introduced as the
vigilante group in Anambra State. Their bodies were impenetrable for bullets, machetes etc. They had earlier
performed the miracle of effectively checking the
daredevil armed robbers that terrorized the neighbouring
Abia State then under the leadership of the youthful and
popular Gov. Orji Uzor Kalu.

Odeshi is obviously a supernatural ability. If deities do not exist, how were those boys able to accomplish this feat? Please an atheist should refute this with meaningful argument. These deities will definitely give their worshipers other supernatural powers. If these deities exist, and their follower attacks you(with supernatural powers) , who will you run to? Dear nairalanders, the fact is that there are actually evil men with more supernatural powers than the bakassi boys. What if they attack an Atheist, where will an Atheist run to? Please an Atheist should respond.

HardMirror, this is a really nice thread, you should know I read from Part 1 without skipping a single page, read most as guest, I was forced to recall my Nairaland password as I had forgot it.
I have to admit, your story is a little similar to mine, though on a rather smaller scale, I wasn't into the evangelism brouhaha but I have read the bible over 30 times growing up back to back (although wasn't a good read because of some absurdity, most parts I try not to understand, because questions would keep pouring in)
I was born into a Christian family, brought up a Christian, from catholic to deeper life, to winners, redeem, seventh day adventist, and back to redeem I think the only denomination I never attended was a white garment church.
Growing up as a Christian was challenging because I was a curious child who applies logic, I could recall even before I was thirteen the bible confuses me a lot because somethings don't just add up, but I was so scared to ask questions, I was too scared to think, and I have to admit, I felt trapped.
 I once went to my pastor when I was a teenager with some questions about Christ's sacrifice, which doesn't make sense to me, I ended up having the devil casted out of me, as my pastor could only justify my superior argument with my being possesed by the devil, I was given a special prayer session and I was convinced I was possessed too(funny). Ever since then, I never wanted to question God for I fear that's the devil tempting me, I used the 'get thee behind me satan' clause a lot back then growing up saying it silently to myself anytime these thoughts flood my mind, I felt it was the devil talking to me, I couldn't even question my belief because I always felt the devil is the only reason i'd question christianity, am sure a lot of Christians can relate to this fear if they are being honest. 
Am pretty sure if we were all brought up free of religion and was then introduced to Christianity after puberty, Christianity would be extinct.
Altogether I dropped religion last year towards the end of my masters before my PhD and I wished i'd done earlier, I felt so free, I could think about anything and ask questions, I felt like I have being caged for twenty-five years, I never took cocaine before but I can tell the euphoric sensation is quite similar to that of coke fiends.
Am sure a lot of Christians are familiar with John 8:32 "For ye shall know the truth and the truth would set you free" indeed the bible got this right, and I keep thinking it's an hidden message in that book.

Lol anyway, funny thing is I still gotto church, and yeah my 'Pastor' is a good speaker, he is a good motivational speaker, the church to me since I lost my faith has being a weekly societal gathering where you come, dance, meet various busy-working friends, take pictures and all. Yes I do pay offerings as well, because I know it ain't no kid thing for a motivational speaker to stand on a podium for an hour tops, he needs to be paid. And good thing is my pastor barely quotes the bible, his teachings are based on morals.
The whole world needs to wake up, its not bad if we have a morality class every weekend, but let's not just cloud it with some sacrosanct spiel of a Jesus/God, it's stupid. The gathering is a good idea, but the god factor is wrong.
It's not fair having believers praying and fasting day in day out hoping to get answers to their pleas while abandoning hard work and placing all their bets on a god, let people know both good and bad experiences they have aren't predestined by a god, or that the affairs of this world are being controlled by a spiritual being who they can call to and he'd intervene, you reap exactly what you sow, nothing is fixed, some are lucky some aren't, no sky daddy would help you out because as far as I am concerned, he only exists in the head of his believers and outright powerless in the real world!
Most people rely so much on a god that they don't work hard as much as they need to as they believe they had done their best(even when it's not enough) and having comfort in putting the rest it all in a supposed God's hand, and once things didn't go as they anticipated because they believed, they make excuses for their imaginary sky daddy, he ain't even have to beg for it. 

The Internet is killing religion, as people are beginning to see the truth, and meet others like them which they never thought existed because no one would come forward in a rather religion fanatic society.

I believe there is no god, hence agnostic-atheist, am not sure if he exists and I won't waste valuable time trying to be sure if there is a god or if there isn't but as far as I am concerned, if a god exists, he would rather have people know outright that he exists, because everyone is worshiping a god based on their societal leanings, which means most are christians because they are born in a Christian home, same with Muslims and others and they all claim to be linked to god, and if he won't clear our doubts, and show us the true way to him and he still exists despite his reluctance to clear these said doubts, then I believe he doesn't care about our affairs or our worship.
So i'd live my life free of worry and reliance, and take the Bulls by the horn, shikena.

am no more caged, and my life has being better, my studies has being swift, grades have being great, I take responsibility for everything that happens to me without wasting time on some god, my life has never being better, I feel in charge, and it feels like am truly in charge of my life. 
It's the best feeling ever!!!

dablazor:
HardMirror, this is a really nice thread, you should know I read from Part 1 without skipping a single page, read most as guest, I was forced to recall my Nairaland password as I had forgot it.
I have to admit, your story is a little similar to mine, though on a rather smaller scale, I wasn't into the evangelism brouhaha but I have read the bible over 30 times growing up back to back (although wasn't a good read because of some absurdity, most parts I try not to understand, because questions would keep pouring in)
I was born into a Christian family, brought up a Christian, from catholic to deeper life, to winners, redeem, seventh day adventist, and back to redeem I think the only denomination I never attended was a white garment church.
Growing up as a Christian was challenging because I was a curious child who applies logic, I could recall even before I was thirteen the bible confuses me a lot because somethings don't just add up, but I was so scared to ask questions, I was too scared to think, and I have to admit, I felt trapped.
 I once went to my pastor when I was a teenager with some questions about Christ's sacrifice, which doesn't make sense to me, I ended up having the devil casted out of me, as my pastor could only justify my superior argument with my being possesed by the devil, I was given a special prayer session and I was convinced I was possessed too(funny). Ever since then, I never wanted to question God for I fear that's the devil tempting me, I used the 'get thee behind me satan' clause a lot back then growing up saying it silently to myself anytime these thoughts flood my mind, I felt it was the devil talking to me, I couldn't even question my belief because I always felt the devil is the only reason i'd question christianity, am sure a lot of Christians can relate to this fear if they are being honest. 
Am pretty sure if we were all brought up free of religion and was then introduced to Christianity after puberty, Christianity would be extinct.
Altogether I dropped religion last year towards the end of my masters before my PhD and I wished i'd done earlier, I felt so free, I could think about anything and ask questions, I felt like I have being caged for twenty-five years, I never took cocaine before but I can tell the euphoric sensation is quite similar to that of coke fiends.
Am sure a lot of Christians are familiar with John 8:32 "For ye shall know the truth and the truth would set you free" indeed the bible got this right, and I keep thinking it's an hidden message in that book.

Lol anyway, funny thing is I still gotto church, and yeah my 'Pastor' is a good speaker, he is a good motivational speaker, the church to me since I lost my faith has being a weekly societal gathering where you come, dance, meet various busy-working friends, take pictures and all. Yes I do pay offerings as well, because I know it ain't no kid thing for a motivational speaker to stand on a podium for an hour tops, he needs to be paid. And good thing is my pastor barely quotes the bible, his teachings are based on morals.
The whole world needs to wake up, its not bad if we have a morality class every weekend, but let's not just cloud it with some sacrosanct spiel of a Jesus/God, it's stupid. The gathering is a good idea, but the god factor is wrong.
It's not fair having believers praying and fasting day in day out hoping to get answers to their pleas while abandoning hard work and placing all their bets on a god, let people know both good and bad experiences they have aren't predestined by a god, or that the affairs of this world are being controlled by a spiritual being who they can call to and he'd intervene, you reap exactly what you sow, nothing is fixed, some are lucky some aren't, no sky daddy would help you out because as far as I am concerned, he only exists in the head of his believers and outright powerless in the real world!
Most people rely so much on a god that they don't work hard as much as they need to as they believe they had done their best(even when it's not enough) and having comfort in putting the rest it all in a supposed God's hand, and once things didn't go as they anticipated because they believed, they make excuses for their imaginary sky daddy, he ain't even have to beg for it. 

The Internet is killing religion, as people are beginning to see the truth, and meet others like them which they never thought existed because no one would come forward in a rather religion fanatic society.

I believe there is no god, hence agnostic-atheist, am not sure if he exists and I won't waste valuable time trying to be sure if there is a god or if there isn't but as far as I am concerned, if a god exists, he would rather have people know outright that he exists, because everyone is worshiping a god based on their societal leanings, which means most are christians because they are born in a Christian home, same with Muslims and others and they all claim to be linked to god, and if he won't clear our doubts, and show us the true way to him and he still exists despite his reluctance to clear these said doubts, then I believe he doesn't care about our affairs or our worship.
So i'd live my life free of worry and reliance, and take the Bulls by the horn, shikena.

am no more caged, and my life has being better, my studies has being swift, grades have being great, I take responsibility for everything that happens to me without wasting time on some god, my life has never being better, I feel in charge, and it feels like am truly in charge of my life. 
It's the best feeling ever!!!

Now how can anyone doubt you are a PhD holder with this write up. By their fruits we shall know them. This is the write-up of one with a functioning brain... From construction to organization to meaningfulness. Guy, u go school
I like this...let people gather for socialization and morality meeting but it shouldn't be built on falsehood that a sky daddy will automatically make things work for you.
Thank for sharing this. It's mind liberating.

dablazor:
HardMirror, this is a really nice thread, you should know I read from Part 1 without skipping a single page, read most as guest, I was forced to recall my Nairaland password as I had forgot it.
I have to admit, your story is a little similar to mine, though on a rather smaller scale, I wasn't into the evangelism brouhaha but I have read the bible over 30 times growing up back to back (although wasn't a good read because of some absurdity, most parts I try not to understand, because questions would keep pouring in)
I was born into a Christian family, brought up a Christian, from catholic to deeper life, to winners, redeem, seventh day adventist, and back to redeem I think the only denomination I never attended was a white garment church.
Growing up as a Christian was challenging because I was a curious child who applies logic, I could recall even before I was thirteen the bible confuses me a lot because somethings don't just add up, but I was so scared to ask questions, I was too scared to think, and I have to admit, I felt trapped.
 I once went to my pastor when I was a teenager with some questions about Christ's sacrifice, which doesn't make sense to me, I ended up having the devil casted out of me, as my pastor could only justify my superior argument with my being possesed by the devil, I was given a special prayer session and I was convinced I was possessed too(funny). Ever since then, I never wanted to question God for I fear that's the devil tempting me, I used the 'get thee behind me satan' clause a lot back then growing up saying it silently to myself anytime these thoughts flood my mind, I felt it was the devil talking to me, I couldn't even question my belief because I always felt the devil is the only reason i'd question christianity, am sure a lot of Christians can relate to this fear if they are being honest. 
Am pretty sure if we were all brought up free of religion and was then introduced to Christianity after puberty, Christianity would be extinct.
Altogether I dropped religion last year towards the end of my masters before my PhD and I wished i'd done earlier, I felt so free, I could think about anything and ask questions, I felt like I have being caged for twenty-five years, I never took cocaine before but I can tell the euphoric sensation is quite similar to that of coke fiends.
Am sure a lot of Christians are familiar with John 8:32 "For ye shall know the truth and the truth would set you free" indeed the bible got this right, and I keep thinking it's an hidden message in that book.

Lol anyway, funny thing is I still gotto church, and yeah my 'Pastor' is a good speaker, he is a good motivational speaker, the church to me since I lost my faith has being a weekly societal gathering where you come, dance, meet various busy-working friends, take pictures and all. Yes I do pay offerings as well, because I know it ain't no kid thing for a motivational speaker to stand on a podium for an hour tops, he needs to be paid. And good thing is my pastor barely quotes the bible, his teachings are based on morals.
The whole world needs to wake up, its not bad if we have a morality class every weekend, but let's not just cloud it with some sacrosanct spiel of a Jesus/God, it's stupid. The gathering is a good idea, but the god factor is wrong.
It's not fair having believers praying and fasting day in day out hoping to get answers to their pleas while abandoning hard work and placing all their bets on a god, let people know both good and bad experiences they have aren't predestined by a god, or that the affairs of this world are being controlled by a spiritual being who they can call to and he'd intervene, you reap exactly what you sow, nothing is fixed, some are lucky some aren't, no sky daddy would help you out because as far as I am concerned, he only exists in the head of his believers and outright powerless in the real world!
Most people rely so much on a god that they don't work hard as much as they need to as they believe they had done their best(even when it's not enough) and having comfort in putting the rest it all in a supposed God's hand, and once things didn't go as they anticipated because they believed, they make excuses for their imaginary sky daddy, he ain't even have to beg for it. 

The Internet is killing religion, as people are beginning to see the truth, and meet others like them which they never thought existed because no one would come forward in a rather religion fanatic society.

I believe there is no god, hence agnostic-atheist, am not sure if he exists and I won't waste valuable time trying to be sure if there is a god or if there isn't but as far as I am concerned, if a god exists, he would rather have people know outright that he exists, because everyone is worshiping a god based on their societal leanings, which means most are christians because they are born in a Christian home, same with Muslims and others and they all claim to be linked to god, and if he won't clear our doubts, and show us the true way to him and he still exists despite his reluctance to clear these said doubts, then I believe he doesn't care about our affairs or our worship.
So i'd live my life free of worry and reliance, and take the Bulls by the horn, shikena.

am no more caged, and my life has being better, my studies has being swift, grades have being great, I take responsibility for everything that happens to me without wasting time on some god, my life has never being better, I feel in charge, and it feels like am truly in charge of my life. 
It's the best feeling ever!!!

Lovely write up nigga
Lovely write up.

I feel u bro.

U sound so enlightened

frank317:


Now how can anyone doubt you are a PhD holder with this write up. By their fruits we shall know them. This is the write-up of one with a functioning brain... From construction to organization to meaningfulness. Guy, u go school
I like this...let people gather for socialization and morality meeting but it shouldn't be built on falsehood that a sky daddy will automatically make things work for you.
Thank for sharing this. It's mind liberating.

I knew a Pastor whose wife died because he refused medical care for her complications during and after child birth.

I remember he was so sure about his future. The names of his unborn children, he said he knew the number of children God would "give" him... God has revealed all of these to him, so he claimed...

If he had turned atheist right now I won't be surprised.

Many jehovah witness folks have had similar experience, their doctrines prohibits blood transfusion, and they know the body-counts. More Christians are becoming morally flexible.

johnydon22:
I once watched a healing service where the man of God healed a man blind from birth..

then pointed his handkerchief at the man and asked him to identify the colour and he answered blue which was correct.

I was like WTF

"How can someone who was blind from birth, never saw anything until now recognize anything when he sees it. . . that's like a huge fat LIE.

dude never saw blue before, how in the world did he recognize blue at first sight? "

i concluded the pastor should fire his show manager and hire me instead cus he won't make such silly mistakes if i was in charge of the circus show.

If God could spilt the red Sea, make water come out of a dry rock, make an 80 year old bear a child, why marvel at a small thing as a man knowing color he never knew since he was blind from birth...

Do you know what it means to be made whole?

Gombs:


If God could spilt the red Sea, make water come out of a dry rock, make an 80 year old bear a child, why marvel at a small thing as a man knowing color he never knew since he was blind from birth...

Do you know what it means to be made whole?

whole

Gombs:


If God could spilt the red Sea, make water come out of a dry rock, make an 80 year old bear a child, why marvel at a small thing as a man knowing color he never knew since he was blind from birth...

Do you know what it means to be made whole?

So he would recognize colours that he had never seen before because he had been made 'whole'? Faith really does corrode the brain.

@HardMirror and other atheists in the house.


I am a Christian, admittedly not a fire brigade type of Christian. I have followed the story and comments from the part 1 to this very second part and I must admit that I have learnt one or two things. However, I have some reservations which I need you guys to help me quash by making things clearer.

I have seen some of you guys proclaimed "I am a Satanist", "praise be to Satan" and the likes. Each time I see comments like the ones I highlighted above, I feel that you guys are sounding contradictory and that really gets me more confused. So my questions are :

Do you guys actually believe in the existence of Satan to warrant such comments? If that is the case, are there any proofs that s/he(Satan) actually exists? But if that is not the case, why do you guys make such comments?