DieVluit:


Three sentences:

1. Nigeria became a sleaze-bucket one year after the departure of the British.

2. It still is.

3. It's three grades below junk and falling.

I know you couldn't improvise. Looolz!!! You had to repeat your shaggy dog story!!!

Standard and Poor ratings, the biggest in the world, has turned you into a junk yard. That's official.

That's worse than a sleazebucket, it makes south Africa an economic receptacle!!!

Now use your dumb head for one second and cease your trumpery

Lezzlie:


[s]I know you couldn't improvise. Looolz!!! You had to repeat your shaggy dog story!!!

Standard and Poor ratings, the biggest in the world, has turned you into a junk yard. That's official.

That's worse than a sleazebucket, it makes south Africa an economic receptacle!!!

Now use your dumb head for one second and cease your trumpery[/s]

No need for long tales and unending stories.

1. Sleaze bucket. That was Nigeria from the 60s till now.

2. Junk. That's Nigeria. Two levels below junk, that is. Junk twice over.

3. And falling. Oil production headed for zero.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/204595-niger-delta-avengers-strikes-reinstates-vow-bring-nigerias-oil-production-zero.html

DieVluit:


No need for long tales and unending stories.

1. Sleaze bucket. That was Nigeria from the 60s till now.

2. Junk. That's Nigeria. Two levels below junk, that is. Junk twice over.

3. And falling. Oil production headed for zero.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/204595-niger-delta-avengers-strikes-reinstates-vow-bring-nigerias-oil-production-zero.html

Please summon Patrick, you're no match!!!

How does the niger delta avengers distort the fact that your economy has been officially rendered as a junk status irrespective of the diversified economy hype?

Lezzlie:


Please summon Patrick, you're no match!!!

How does the niger delta avengers distort the fact that your economy has been officially rendered as a junk status irrespective of the diversified economy hype?

Your question would be answered automatically as soon as you deny the following:

1. Nigeria became a rubbish country the moment the British left.

2. Nigeria remains a rubbish country.

3. Nigeria is two levels below junk.

4. Nigeria continues further into junk territory with oil production approaching zero.

If you can't deny 1-4, you have no business asking any questions or even screaming. Nigeria itself is no match. Let alone yourself.

DieVluit:


Your question would be answered automatically as soon as you deny the following:

1. Nigeria became a rubbish country the moment the British left.

2. Nigeria remains a rubbish country.

3. Nigeria is two levels below junk.

4. Nigeria continues further into junk territory with oil production approaching zero.

If you can't deny 1-4, you have no business asking any questions or even screaming. Nigeria itself is no match. Let alone yourself.

It will take for the miracle to bring Mandela back to help you improve on your line variety!!! You're breathtakingly dull!

1) Nigeria, along other African country freed you from the slavery of 400 years when the British left. When the British left she has become one of the top 2 contributors to UN mission and has borne the financial and political burden of West Africa with over 60% contribution to the group

2) Standard and Poor has certified South Africa as junk status!!! It is fact! Deal with it! They didn't rate us junk, they rated you junk, below investor's standard.

That makes south Africa a wasteland.

3) Your economy is worse than ours. Your unemployment is 26.7%. That's 1 in 4 south African. That's why your youths are all carrying billboards and placards all over the city begging for jobs. Apartheid was way better.

Just like the Israelites told Moses in the desert, "take us back to Egypt " South Africans are saying " Bring Back aparthied, we have never had it this bad"

Your numbers 2 to 4 is actually repeating same thing like a moronic ïdiot.

Oil price plummets and we're still going and managing better.

You boast of a diversified economy, yet your inflation and unemployment is unprecented in Africa.

Junk, man, the wasteland of Africa is what South Africa is.

Go back to apartheid. Desmond Tutu spoke the truth when he said South Africa was better in the apartheid ere.


He was saying in essence: Slavery is your lot!!!!!!!

Lezzlie:
[s]It will take for the miracle to bring Mandela back to help you improve on your line variety!!! You're breathtakingly dull!

1) Nigeria, along other African country freed you from the slavery of 400 years when the British left. When the British left she has become one of the top 2 contributors to UN mission and has borne the financial and political burden of West Africa with over 60% contribution to the group

2) Standard and Poor has certified South Africa as junk status!!! It is fact! Deal with it! They didn't rate us junk, they rated you junk, below investor's standard.

That makes south Africa a wasteland.

3) Your economy is worse than us. Your unemployment is 26.7%. That's 1 in 4 south African. That's why your youths are all carrying billboards and placards all over the city begging for jobs. Apartheid was way better.

Just like the Israelites told Moses in the desert, "take us back to Egypt " South Africans are saying " Bring Back aparthied, we have never had it this bad"

Your numbers 2 to 4 is actually repeating same thing like a moronic ïdiot.

Oil price plummets and we're still going and managing better.

You boast of a diversified economy, yet your inflation and unemployment is unprecented in Africa.

Junk, man, the wasteland of Africa is what South Africa is.

Go back to apartheid. Desmond Tutu spoke the truth when he said South Africa was better in the apartheid ere.


He was saying in essence: Slavery is your lot!!!!!!![/s]

In short, you cannot deny 1-4. Why are your lips even moving, then? God knows you have nothing more to say given that you've pretty much accepted your country is rubbish.

The only way to stop repitition is to rebut what's being said. You have no rebuttal. You've accepted you come from a rubbish country and therefore aren't worthy of being addressed respectably by anyone.

DieVluit:


In short, you cannot deny 1-4. Why are your lips even moving, then? God knows you have nothing more to say given that you've pretty much accepted your country is rubbish.

The only way to stop repitition is to rebut what's being said. You have no rebuttal. You've accepted you come from a rubbish country and therefore aren't worthy of being addressed respectably by anyone.

The indication my rebuttal stroke home is when you cross them out!!!

Junk status boy!!!


Olodo!

DieVluit:


Your question would be answered automatically as soon as you deny the following:

1. Nigeria became a rubbish country the moment the British left.

2. Nigeria remains a rubbish country.

3. Nigeria is two levels below junk.

4. Nigeria continues further into junk territory with oil production approaching zero.

If you can't deny 1-4, you have no business asking any questions or even screaming. Nigeria itself is no match. Let alone yourself.

What rubbish is this guy typing?
Is that the reason why Zuma always run to Nigeria to beg?
If Nigeria is truly a rubbish country why are your companies fleeing to Nigeria? dummy.

Tell us the country where this shit still exist in the world?

iblawi:

[s]What rubbish is this guy typing?
Is that the reason why Zuma always run to Nigeria to beg?[/s]
If Nigeria is truly a rubbish country why are your companies fleeing to Nigeria? dummy.

[s]Tell us the country where this shit still exist in the world?[/s]

Colonisation is real. As Patches would say: welcome to South African hegemony.

But let's not get carried away: You'll be pleased to know your capital inflows has all but dried up.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/3/3a497ad0-28c6-11e6-8b18-91555f2f4fde.html

That's how rubbish your country is.

Lezzlie:
The indication my rebuttal stroke home is when you cross them out!!!

Junk status boy!!!


Olodo!

That's why you've been reduced to emoticons and one-liners. Id1ocy is when you dig your own grave by talking about a country "going to the dogs in two decades" while sitting in a country that went to the dogs within a year...and remains in the dwang.

DieVluit:


That's why you've been reduced to emoticons and one-liners. Id1ocy is when you dig your own grave by talking about a country "going to the dogs in two decades" while sitting in a country that went to the dogs within a year...and remains in the dwang.

The height of buffoonery is having a misplaced assessment of your worth.

That's like eating faeces for moi-moi?

As we speak BBC is trending you as a junk!

You have not been able to defend your way explaining how a country built by white and developed for over 300 years suddenly becomes the spittoon of Africa.

South Africa has been confirmed economically unresponsive and socially on its back.

South Africa is on life-support!!!

When your president was busy taking more wives, and the other announcing to the world that HIV doesn't cause AIDS, and the present one, half unclad, chanting "kill the Boers" in parliament. Lolz. The only thing they killed was the economy and their own people.

Your political leadership were people who never ran a modern home let alone a country.

Like Mandela confessed " We are bush people brought form the bushes and jungle, we lack experience on how to run a country"

And in less than 2 years South Africa is on its knees being overtaken by Nigeria and Egypt.

Your reality is in pics below.

South Africa is Zimbabwe destined!!!

Welcome to the slide to insignificance!!!

Getting you from the jungle is a mistake Africa will never make again!!!

DieVluit:


Colonisation is real. As Patches would say: welcome to South African hegemony.

But let's not get carried away: You'll be pleased to know your capital inflows has all but dried up.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/3/3a497ad0-28c6-11e6-8b18-91555f2f4fde.html

That's how rubbish your country is.

A slave in his own land talking about hegemony!!!

Pigs really do fly on the internet.

What is happening to South Africa has never happened before the fall of appathied.

When your president is running to Abuja seeking alliance and economic leverage, and all your companies are filling for assylum in our shores, you're having two masters: the Boers and Nigeria.

DieVluit:


It's on the website of the Av3ng3rs of the Naija Delta.

That's why i asked for the "link".

Lezzlie:
It will take for the miracle to bring Mandela back to help you improve on your line variety!!! You're breathtakingly dull!

1) Nigeria, along other African country freed you from the slavery of 400 years when the British left. When the British left she has become one of the top 2 contributors to UN mission and has borne the financial and political burden of West Africa with over 60% contribution to the group

2) Standard and Poor has certified South Africa as junk status!!! It is fact! Deal with it! They didn't rate us junk, they rated you junk, below investor's standard.

That makes south Africa a wasteland.

3) Your economy is worse than us. Your unemployment is 26.7%. That's 1 in 4 south African. That's why your youths are all carrying billboards and placards all over the city begging for jobs. Apartheid was way better.

Just like the Israelites told Moses in the desert, "take us back to Egypt " South Africans are saying " Bring Back aparthied, we have never had it this bad"

Your numbers 2 to 4 is actually repeating same thing like a moronic ïdiot.

Oil price plummets and we're still going and managing better.

You boast of a diversified economy, yet your inflation and unemployment is unprecented in Africa.

Junk, man, the wasteland of Africa is what South Africa is.

Go back to apartheid. Desmond Tutu spoke the truth when he said South Africa was better in the apartheid ere.


He was saying in essence: Slavery is your lot!!!!!!!

The hopeless fool has been completely destroyed!!


Imagine a lowly tree hopping, un-educated South-African(s) talking about economy.

Lezzlie:
A slave in his own land talking about hegemony!!!

Pigs really do fly on the internet.

What is happening to South Africa has never happened before the fall of appathied.

When your president is running to Abuja seeking alliance and economic leverage, and all your companies are filling for assylum in our shores, you're having two masters: the Boers and Nigeria.

You might as well kill yourself if I am a slave, given that you are south Africa's slave. Only good for the creation of profits for the enjoyment of south africans.

But let's not stop there, Biafrans are fighting for freedom. Niger deltas are fighting for freedom. Boko haram are fighting for freedom.

In short, then, not only is Nigeria a sleazebucket with a diving economyn but Nigerians are slaves twice over. Owned by south africa and enslaved in Nigeria.

Henry240:


The hopeless fool has been completely destroyed!!


Imagine a lowly tree hopping, un-educated South-African(s) talking about economy.

For as long as history records that South Africans found Nigerians in the dirt and gave you malls, you don't even have the right to kiss the ground I walk on.

For as long as you remain unable to take a hot shower because you only get hot water once a month, you remain dead in stink. You cannot even produce 2k MW worth of electricity, but your lips are still moving. And you're still popping babies.

There's nothing more lowly than a nation that remains in the dark ages 60 years after independence.

DieVluit:


For as long as history records that South Africans found Nigerians in the dirt and gave you malls, you don't even have the right to kiss the ground I walk on.

For as long as you remain unable to take a hot shower because you only get hot water once a month, you remain dead in stink. You cannot even produce 2k MW worth of electricity, but your lips are still moving. And you"re still popping babies.

There's nothing more lowly than a nation that remains in the dark ages 60 yyears after independence.

yet anytime I Google south African energy 2016 I see news about south Africa heading back to the dark ages and stuff...
I don't know why my Nigerian brothers are answering you sef

young slave...u belong in chikurubi maximum prison for spewing that kinda poo

Odunayaw:
yet anytime I Google south African energy 2016 I see news about south Africa heading back to the dark ages and stuff...
I don't know why my Nigerian brothers are answering you sef

young slave...u belong in chikurubi maximum prison for spewing that kinda poo

Then by your own admission, you think South Africa is "heading back". You've been in the dark ages since the 60s, if not longer. Producing a tenth of South Africa's electricity production, with three times the population. You CANNOT tell me that Nigerians see a hot shower everyday. It's impossible. C'est impossible! LOL.

From 4k MW of electricity to less that 1K. Oil output reduced to 1.4 mbd.

Like I said earlier, if I am a slave, then you need to shoot yourself because South Africans own every single Nigerian running around that Zoo.

DieVluit:



You might as well kill yourself if I am a slave, given that you are south Africa's slave. Only good for the creation of profits for the enjoyment of south africans.

Zuma came to Abuja this year with virtually all his cabinet to seek political and economic leverage from Nigeria. And he was singing Nigeria's praise and contribution in a mollifying tone, it was bellow diplomatic standards. That was after mtn's fine, Shoprite's health indictment, Standard bank's financial query, then Zuma had to travel with South Africa's largest entourage in post apartheid history to plead and broker peace. Nigeria was on the verge of asphyxiating South Africa in a multidimensional level.

Zuma bailed South Africa from Nigeria's grip.

The day you can manage just one institution in south Africa, then you would have , by yourself ,become a man. Right now you're a slave, limited within and unable to stretch beyond blame and food stamps.

You're the depiction of slavery in action

DieVluit:



But let's not stop there, Biafrans are fighting for freedom. Niger deltas are fighting for freedom. Boko haram are fighting for freedom.

Listen the average south African only began voting in 1994 and started acquiring any meaningful education same year. So I wouldn't be making demands on your weak mental framework. I could easily kill you with mental exertions if I were to ask you a couple questions.
Go learn the meaning of political concessions and come back to me. This thread will balance out all the years of educational segregation the Boers afflicted you and yours with.

DieVluit:




In short, then, not only is Nigeria a sleazebucket with a diving economyn but Nigerians are slaves twice over. Owned by south africa and enslaved in Nigeria.

I like your ceaseless use of the word "sleazebucket" since I used it in description of SA. You learn fast. And my words are engraved in your heart

A diving ECONOMY of Nigeria still outgrows yours. Take your frustrations to the international rating agencies that declared your economy detritus.

That's why nuture made you markedly dumb and reality laughs cruelly at you.

Without oil we're doing better then you.

With your "diversified" and " first world institutions", the report card from Standard And Poor says South Africa is junk-magnet. Flat on her back.

Heathland!!!

Lezzlie:
Zuma came to Abuja this year with virtually all his cabinet to seek political and economic leverage from Nigeria. And he was singing Nigeria's praise and contribution in a mollifying tone, it was bellow diplomatic standards. That was after mtn's fine, Shoprite's health indictment, Standard bank's financial query, then Zuma had to travel with South Africa's largest entourage in post apartheid history to plead and broker peace. Nigeria was on the verge of asphyxiating South Africa in a multidimensional level.

Zuma bailed South Africa from Nigeria's grip.

The day you can manage just one institution in south Africa, then you would have , by yourself ,become a man. Right now you're a slave, limited within and unable to stretch beyond blame and food stamps.

You're the depiction of slavery in action

Listen the average south African only began voting in 1994 and started acquiring any meaningful education same year. So I wouldn't be making demands on your weak mental framework. I could easily kill you with mental exertions if I were to ask you a couple questions.
Go learn the meaning of political concessions and come back to me. This thread will balance out all the years of educational segregation the Boers afflicted you and yours with.


I like your ceaseless use of the word "sleazebucket" since I used it in description of SA. You learn fast. And my words are engraved in your heart

A diving ECONOMY of Nigeria still outgrows yours. Take your frustrations to the international rating agencies that declared your economy detritus.

That's why nuture made you markedly dumb and reality laughs cruelly at you.

Without oil we're doing better then you.

With your "diversified" and " first world institutions", the report card from Standard And Poor says South Africa is junk-magnet. Flat on her back.

Heathland!!!

That's unfair na. Temper Mercy na biko. Chai! U badt gan oo.

Lezzlie:
[s]Zuma came to Abuja this year with virtually all his cabinet to seek political and economic leverage from Nigeria. And he was singing Nigeria's praise and contribution in a mollifying tone, it was bellow diplomatic standards. That was after mtn's fine, Shoprite's health indictment, Standard bank's financial query, then Zuma had to travel with South Africa's largest entourage in post apartheid history to plead and broker peace. Nigeria was on the verge of asphyxiating South Africa in a multidimensional level.

Zuma bailed South Africa from Nigeria's grip.

The day you can manage just one institution in south Africa, then you would have , by yourself ,become a man. Right now you're a slave, limited within and unable to stretch beyond blame and food stamps.

You're the depiction of slavery in action

Listen the average south African only began voting in 1994 and started acquiring any meaningful education same year. So I wouldn't be making demands on your weak mental framework. I could easily kill you with mental exertions if I were to ask you a couple questions.
Go learn the meaning of political concessions and come back to me. This thread will balance out all the years of educational segregation the Boers afflicted you and yours with.


I like your ceaseless use of the word "sleazebucket" since I used it in description of SA. You learn fast. And my words are engraved in your heart

A diving ECONOMY of Nigeria still outgrows yours. Take your frustrations to the international rating agencies that declared your economy detritus.

That's why nuture made you markedly dumb and reality laughs cruelly at you.

Without oil we're doing better then you.

With your "diversified" and " first world institutions", the report card from Standard And Poor says South Africa is junk-magnet. Flat on her back.

Heathland!!!
[/s]

Cry me a river. Ever colonialist will come in to check how his subjects are doing.

One word. Recession:

http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/03/18/nigerias-economy-is-in-recession-says-economist/

No need for long posts when dealing with you. Far too easy.

Lezzlie:
Z[s]uma came to Abuja this year with virtually all his cabinet to seek political and economic leverage from Nigeria. And he was singing Nigeria's praise and contribution in a mollifying tone, it was bellow diplomatic standards. That was after mtn's fine, Shoprite's health indictment, Standard bank's financial query, then Zuma had to travel with South Africa's largest entourage in post apartheid history to plead and broker peace. Nigeria was on the verge of asphyxiating South Africa in a multidimensional level.

Zuma bailed South Africa from Nigeria's grip.

The day you can manage just one institution in south Africa, then you would have , by yourself ,become a man. Right now you're a slave, limited within and unable to stretch beyond blame and food stamps.

You're the depiction of slavery in action

Listen the average south African only began voting in 1994 and started acquiring any meaningful education same year. So I wouldn't be making demands on your weak mental framework. I could easily kill you with mental exertions if I were to ask you a couple questions.
Go learn the meaning of political concessions and come back to me. This thread will balance out all the years of educational segregation the Boers afflicted you and yours with.


I like your ceaseless use of the word "sleazebucket" since I used it in description of SA. You learn fast. And my words are engraved in your heart
[/s]
A diving ECONOMY of Nigeria still outgrows yours. Take your frustrations to the international rating agencies that declared your economy detritus.

[s]That's why nuture made you markedly dumb and reality laughs cruelly at you.

Without oil we're doing better then you.

With your "diversified" and " first world institutions", the report card from Standard And Poor says South Africa is junk-magnet. Flat on her back.

Heathland!!!
[/s]

LOL How can you outgrow anyone when you are in fact not growing, but shrinking?

-0.36 percent.

A sleazebucket is a person, in case you didn't know. And sleazebuckets live in Nigeria. How's that for learning.

DieVluit:


LOL How can you outgrow anyone when you are in fact not growing, but shrinking?

-0.36 percent.

A sleazebucket is a person, in case you didn't know. And sleazebuckets live in Nigeria. How's that for learning.

DieVluit:

Cry me a river. Ever colonialist will come in to check how his subjects are doing.
One word. Recession:
http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/03/18/nigerias-economy-is-in-recession-says-economist/
No need for long posts when dealing with you. Far too easy.

You not only struck out that post, you felt the need to defend it Twice with 2 posts!!!!

That's all the signs I needed to know I have shellacked you more than the Boers ever did. But you're used to defeat, nothing new here.


Oh, sleazebucket is a place as well. Seems you're used to Zulu language and informal English of America.

And an economy in recession is simply a reduction in economic activities.

A junk status of an economy means it is below investor's standards.

It means south African economy is on life-support machine, dummy.

Your Nairaland subscription should worth more than your educational enrolment now.

Tuition for free via Nigeria.

Say thank you.

Vikkie14:
That's unfair na. Temper Mercy na biko. Chai! U badt gan oo.

Zulus have got a strong back to take heavy lashes!!!

400 years of socio-economic and political annihilation have made them numb to shame, logic and dignity.

Lezzlie:




[s]You not only struck out that post, you felt the need to defend it Twice with 2 posts!!!!

That's all the signs I needed to know I have shellacked you more than the Boers ever did. But you're used to defeat, nothing new here.


Oh, sleazebucket is a place as well. Seems you're used to Zulu language and informal English of America.

And an economy in recession is simply a reduction in economic activities.

A junk status of an economy means it is below investor's standards.

It means south African economy is on life-support machine, dummy.

Your Nairaland subscription should worth more than your educational enrolment now.

Tuition for free via Nigeria.

Say thank you[/s].

Again: one sentence - one word - recession.

Shrinking and on its knees is your slave economy. How can you outgrow anyone when you are shrinking?

http://venturesafrica.com/thses-indicators-reveal-a-looming-economic-recession-for-nigeria/

Lezzlie:
Zulus have got a strong back to take heavy lashes!!!

400 years of socio-economic and political annihilation have made them numb to shame, logic and dignity.

Given that Biafra Igbos feel enslaved in 2016. Niger Deltans feel enslaved in 2016. Northe-easterners feel enslaved in 2016, you have no business even breathing the words slavery.

DieVluit:


Again: one sentence - one word - recession.

Shrinking and on its knees is your slave economy. How can you outgrow anyone when you are shrinking?

http://venturesafrica.com/thses-indicators-reveal-a-looming-economic-recession-for-nigeria/

Poor land has nothing more to say So you have inadvertently admitted South Africa's economy is in a state of paralysis. Clerk boy.

And you don't seem to have learnt the difference between recession and Junk status.

You're showing the same stubbornness than kept your bloodlines enslaved for 400 years.

Break away from the endless circle of subjugation, man

DieVluit:


Given that Biafra Igbos feel enslaved in 2016. Niger Deltans feel enslaved in 2016. Northe-easterners feel enslaved in 2016, you have no business even breathing the words slavery.

Feel enslaved ? As in 90% of their lands and 80% of their economy is own by the Boers?

That's only obtainable in South Africa, the most unequal country in the world!

Lezzlie:
Poor land has nothing more to say So you have inadvertently admitted South Africa's economy is in a state of paralysis. Clerk boy.

And you don't seem to have learnt the difference between recession and Junk status.

You're showing the same stubbornness than kept your bloodlines enslaved for 400 years.

Break away from the endless circle of subjugation, man

Given that you are unable to deny anything that I have posted, why should I complicate my own life? You are the proverbial chihuahua. A small kick is all it takes.

The moment you can demonstrate that you aren't faced with a shrinking economy, then I might say more.

Lezzlie:
Feel enslaved ? [s]As in 90% of their lands and 80% of their economy is own by the Boers?

That's only obtainable in South Africa, the most unequal country in the world![/s]

Not only do they FEEL enslaved, but Nigerians are actually enslaved to the point of picking up arms. Three groups all fighting to be free. Mayday.

But it doesn't end there. Given that South Africa's essentially owns your economy, then slavery is your entire existence.

DieVluit:



Given that you are unable to deny anything that I have posted, why should I complicate my own life. You are the proverbial chihuahua. A small kick is all it takes.

The moment, you can demonstrate that you aren't faced with a shrinking economy, then I might say more.

Logic isn't part of your gifts from mother nature!!

You haven't said anything here other than dagga-induced rants of incomprehensible harangue!!!

As we speak, South Africa is on the new in BBC for economic collapse. When you can't even read and comprehend, your freedom is still unforeseeable

Lezzlie:
Logic isn't part of your gifts from mother nature!!

You haven't said anything here other than dagga-induced rants of incomprehensible harangue!!!

As we speak, South Africa is on the new in BBC for economic collapse. When you can't even read and comprehend, your freedom is still unforeseeable

-0.36% "growth" the last quarter is a fact. Less than 4K MW electricity production for Nigeria is a fact. 1.4MBD oil production is a fact. Capital outflows - that's also a fact.

Why do I need to write a whole page when you are already dead?