johnydon22:


Hahaha exactly the point

We call that a hypothesis… Once something is unproven it cannot be said to be true neither can it be dismissed as a lie.

but once you knowing fully well such subject is unproven claims it is true then there is need for you to substantiate your claim by proving it.

But you just agreed it is unproven therefore you have no basis to claim it as true...

Just call it a hypothesis that you have shown it to be and i'll totally support

The existence of God has not been disproven and there is no fact that precludes his existence . For you to reject the "God-hypothesis " as untrue without proof means you are close-minded . Am I wrong ?

johnydon22:
Let me continue to make things simpler for everyone here, let me show how absurd it is to ask someone else for proof for your own unproven claim rather than providing proof as the claimant.



You see this table, i believe by faith that there is a red cup on that table, can someone prove to me that there is no cup on that table?

Ahh. Itz good 'ol. Red cup , the uncreated creator , the i am that i am.

sonOfLucifer:

Thanks. Wish I could say the same about yours.

Looooolz . son of lucy u wicked o

KingEbukaNaija:


Smh . You dont get it .

1. The fact that something is invisible does not prove it is non-existent.

2. The fact that something is not proved does not mean it is not true.

But the joke is on you!

Now let me make this simpler for you, replace the word "FACT" in your sentence with anyone of these words "LAW, HYPOTHESIS, THEORY, BELIEF".

johnydon22:


hahahaha please don't add cognitive dissonance to it... seriously i was just talking to myself all along this was what you could understand from it?..

nawa ooo

You basically appealed to popularity in your argument , Argumentum ad populum , because most people can't see the cup therefore the cup is not there . So in the same vein , since most people acknowledge the existence of God , then there is one

KingEbukaNaija:
Worthy opponents : valentinemary , donnffd , dblacknaija , JackBizzle , sonofLucifer , hahn , realmindz , plaetton , davien , kay17 , agentofAllah , Elohim1 , sweetcocoa , ifenes , k9blunt , dalaman

lol

Raddie:


But the joke is on you!

Now let me make this simpler for you, replace the word "FACT" in your sentence with anyone of these words "LAW, HYPOTHESIS, THEORY, BELIEF".

I am addressing the view of the atheist concerning God . The points were deduced from the nature of their arguments . Gosh you guys are so slow

sonOfLucifer:
Thanks. Wish I could say the same about yours.

u sud be arrested for this comment

Raddie:


Now I understand your signature!

Thanks ! So bring a 'liberal topic' let's discuss .

KingEbukaNaija:


You just shot yourself in the foot . There are more theists than atheists. Actually the population of atheists are picayune - very insignificant compared to the number of theists in the world . Infact there just 7 percent of the population of Europe who atheists and the total population of atheists in the world is just 500 million atheists , non God -believers ! And there are close to 6 billion God-believers in the world .

So using your logic , there are more people seeing God , so there is indeed a God and the less who are the atheists who can't see God are wrong .

Good night bro . Sleep tight

You dazzle me son.

By your logic and way of reasoning ,

1. Mary is the queen of heaven since more people see her that way . catholics are way more than protestants so it is only logical that mary is the queen of heaven.


2 . at a point in human history , the flat earthers werw more than the people holding the spherical earth view so it is only logical that the world at that point in time was flat .


Etc. , etc


King ebukas blog as always u no dey disappoint

KingEbukaNaija:
Is there anyone willing to accept this challenge ?

if God exists, it's definitely not the God of the bible bcus that God wicked no be small...
killed too many people, he was too tribal, he was an ethnic cleanser, then he had a people he called "my people"... so the Egyptian children weren't his people, definitely he did not create the Egyptians...The creation account was too obvious as it focused on jews meaning he's not a god for all, he was simply a Jewish god

KingEbukaNaija:

I am addressing the view of the atheist concerning God . The points were deduced from the nature of their arguments . Gosh you guys are so slow

And I already addressed this with my first comment, stop being a goat!

Raddie:

And just so you know being an atheist is not a disbelief in a god or a denial of any but a lack of belief in gods.

Is Johnnydon22 up yet

One saccharine victory has to be ruining one's argument with his own logic

Raddie:


And I already addressed this with my first comment, stop being a goat!

And that means you are close-minded for you to fail to accept the "God-hypothesis" , "God-belief" , "God-faith " even when there is no fact that precludes it from being plausible .


Gosh , these lots are too obtuse

KingEbukaNaija:
Is Johnnydon22 up yet

One saccharine victory has to be ruining one's argument with his own logic

*****YAWNS***********
U r indeed the "god" of trolls.

urahara:


You dazzle me son.

By your logic and way of reasoning ,

1. Mary is the queen of heaven since more people see her that way . catholics are way more than protestants so it is only logical that mary is the queen of heaven.


2 . at a point in human history , the flat earthers werw more than the people holding the spherical earth view so it is only logical that the world at that point in time was flat .


Etc. , etc


King ebukas blog as always u no dey disappoint

Young man , stop the knee-jerk posts , desultory comments because apparently you don't make any sense . I clearly said "so using you own logic " - this means I'm refuting his own claims through the way he reasoned .

MrMarvelous:

*****YAWNS***********
U r indeed the "god" of trolls.

You can peruse through the thread to see for yourself . I've been using his logic to refute his arguments

KingEbukaNaija:


Young man , stop the knee-jerk posts , desultory comments because apparently you don't make any sense . I clearly said "so using you own logic " - this means I'm refuting his own claims through the way he reasoned .

people will stop taking u serious...u are rly a troll

Ebuka the bible and it's dumb stories is proof enough.

realmindz:

people will stop taking u serious...u are rly a troll

If you mean atheists coping out of arguments they have with me because I ridicule them as the pretext then yes they should .

KingEbukaNaija:


You can peruse through the thread to see for yourself . I've been using his logic to refute his arguments

Ok we done c am...clap for urself.
You done win am...oya go sleep abi nght no reach where u dey oga Ebuka? Ur babe no dey disturb u say u 2 press system??

KingEbukaNaija:


If you mean atheists coping out of arguments they have with me because I ridicule them as the pretext then yes they should .

if I'd asked u the age of the earth, wat wud u ve said?

KingEbukaNaija:


Young man , stop the knee-jerk posts , desultory comments because apparently you don't make any sense . I clearly said "so using you own logic " - this means I'm refuting his own claims through the way he reasoned .

Johnny never ever implied that majority is always right.

realmindz:

if God exists, it's definitely not the God of the bible bcus that God wicked no be small...
killed too many people, he was too tribal, he was an ethnic cleanser,

God is both a loving God and a consuming fire . He is the God of Justice . And the so-called despicable acts he is being accused of committing makes no sense . God is not subject to his laws and as a God , he had Israel as his appointed executioner .

Will you call a Judge wicked for giving a verdict that ends the lives of a set of rapists in the law court and will you call the court executioner or firing squad as they case may be wicked because he/they carried out the Judge's order ? This is not me trying to exculpate God , I'm stating facts

Here , read : https://www.nairaland.com/3031728/reasons-why-god-not-subject

urahara:



Johnny never ever implied that majority is always right.

But He clearly implied that since the majority did not see the cup , therefore the cup is not there . I just borrowed his sense of reasoning for a moment to rebut his specious argument .

KingEbukaNaija:


God is both a loving God and a consuming fire . He is the God of Justice . And the so-called despicable acts he is being accused of committing makes no sense . God is not subject to his laws and as a God , he had Israel as his appointed executioner .

Will you call a Judge wicked for giving a verdict that ends the lives of a set of rapists in the law court and will you call the court executioner or firing squad as they case may be wicked because he/they carried out the Judge's order ? This is not me trying to exculpate God , I'm stating facts

Here , read : https://www.nairaland.com/3031728/reasons-why-god-not-subject

so what was the sin of jericho, sins of the Egyptian children that were slain? since God was simply passing judgement to the wicked....
and to say God is both merciful and consuming fire completely rules out the possibility of "The all merciful and loving god" All merciful means 100% so we can both agree God is 50-50 jst as u said

sweetcocoa:
Ebuka the bible and it's dumb stories is proof enough.

Some people take those stories as allegories : MrPresident1 and sukkot

and because you bear misconceptions about those stories , you think they are dumb

Swearie , why ?

KingEbukaNaija:


But He clearly implied that since the majority did not see the cup , therefore the cup is not there . I just borrowed his sense of reasoning for a moment to rebut his specious argument .

U misunderstood him. ( i don taya for u sef. )

He obviously only said that the burden of proof lies on the one making the claim not the one refuting the claim.

Chaiiii

KingEbuka, I think you created this thread to troll..shall we do this together??
To the topic.
First of all what do you mean by God--which you want us to prove it's non-existence?

realmindz:

so what was the sin of jericho, sins of the Egyptian children that were slain? since God was simply passing judgement to the wicked.

Sin of Jericho

The sin of the people of Jericho was the same as all the inhabitants of Canaan – they worshipped idols, were immoral and did evil in the sight of God. Canaan was defiled by its inhabitants.

Exodus 23:23-24

For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off.

24 Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.

Then verse 32-33

32 Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods. 33 They shall not dwell in thy land, lest they make thee sin against me: for if thou serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto thee.

Sins of the children of Egypt

The Egyptians killed the sons of Isreal during their period of slavery - over 400 years of suffering , partaking in drudgery etc - the action was given to them in their own fold as punishment and you think God was being wicked

The children usually perpetuate the wicked actions of their parents in those God-forsaken countries and this would have been intractable but one way of obviating this is to destroy the seeds that would germinate and cause further destruction . Toddlers who lose their lives are with God though .

KingEbukaNaija:


Sin of Jericho

The sin of the people of Jericho was the same as all the inhabitants of Canaan – they worshipped idols, were immoral and did evil in the sight of God. Canaan was defiled by its inhabitants.

Exodus 23:23-24

For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off.

24 Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.

Then verse 32-33

32 Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods. 33 They shall not dwell in thy land, lest they make thee sin against me: for if thou serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto thee.

Sins of the children of Egypt

The Egyptians killed the sons of Isreal during their period of slavery - over 400 years of suffering , partaking in drudgery etc - the action was given to them in their own fold as punishment and you think God was being wicked

The children usually perpetuate the wicked actions of their parents in those God-forsaken countries and this would have been intractable but one way of obviating this is to destroy the seeds that would germinate and cause further destruction . Toddlers who lose their lives are with God though .

If the government today who is not all perfect, all merciful all loving sud kill an innocent child for the sins of the parents, what wud u say about such a leader?
If the government sud send down troops to wipe out an entire town because they worshipped idols, wat wud be your comment...pls answer sincerely and for once, locate your humanity

dblackninja:
KingEbuka, I think you created this thread to troll..shall we do this together??
To the topic.
First of all what do you mean by God--which you want us to prove it's non-existence?

Trolls are gadflies and trolling is fun to anyone who is not being feasted on .

A conscious anthropomorphic deity who created the universe . Well , apparently , atheists think this is a hypothesis - "God-hypothesis "- since scientifically the cause of the universe is unknown .

The thing is , atheists repudiate/abnegate the God-hypothesis without proof . So the purpose of this thread is to address this pathetic mentality . If God is one of the "possibilities" for the cause of the universe , why do they reject it ? Isn't that close-mindedness Or better still being ignorant ?