As we can also see, Edo never changed from her subjugation, suppression and forceful annexation of small weaker groups.

She was just rendered too powerless and insignificant by the amalgamation of these previously smaller groups to form mega groups.

Bini primitive subjugation instincts still manifests when given opportunity to.

Adaure4ever:
ok. Ya. Refiner is the bomb. Tomorrow, I am solidly behind her.
Go Refiner.

Its just one vote per person, and i know that anyi bu umu nwanne ...

adalu Ada Igbo..

refiner:


Its just one vote per person, and i know that anyi bu umu nwanne ...

adalu Ada Igbo..

don't worry swthrt. I wil do ur campaign tonite, pull the crowd with my swag and 2moro, it will be Refiner Refiner all the way..

They are just being sensible and realistic. Edoids and Yorubas are not necessarily trying to hold Igbos back in Nigeria as a punitive measure for their prevention of the upholding of the secession clause. No! They are only not interested in using violence to seek secession from "One-Nigeria". Igbos obviously want blood, but all other tribes don't. Not even all Igbos are into this call for bloody secession. Some sensible ones are, like Edoids and Yorubas, asking for a restructured constitution that will allow peaceful secession. Does that make such Igbos "One-Nigeria" appologists?

There exists not one single pro secession violent Igbo group, both IPOB and MASSOB are all unarmed groups, so pray tell how Ndiigbo are leading a violent secession? We want blood because we say that we no longer want to share a nation with alien Edos, Yorubas and Northerners? Is that your definition of violence?

A demand for referendum is a demand for violence?

Adaure4ever:
don't worry swthrt. I wil do ur campaign tonite, pull the crowd with my swag and 2moro, it will be Refiner Refiner all the way..

Funny signature... Dual meaning

Thanks darling

Deadlytruth:
Which people sold the South to the North and thereby brought on themselves all the calamities you listed above? This is the question you have cleverly refused to answer. Until you answer this simple question the punishment and nemesis of the ruining of Nigeria will continue to be on you as a burden of guilt. Why not form a party again and align it with the North to hound fellow Southerners as you have always done as your stock in trade. Nonsense!

Silly rants of hypocrisy from a confused Uneme-Nekhua minion!

One of your delusions is that you and all that you stand for think that Igbos are your mates that you can just wake up from stupor and start ranting senselessly at.

Let me sound it loud and clear, "your pulling out baseless theories of absurdity to blackmail the Igbo Nation to continue with you in this cesspit is DOA and such shenanigan cannot save you from the inevitable - your spending the rest of your miserable lives with your Fulani masters".

It has been a curse having your likes in the same country and this curse is broken already and the serpent head is severely bruised and that's why you've been on rampage for some months now attempting in vain to resurrect a walking corpse.

Take your miseries to OduaArewanistan republic where bunch of hypocrites and confused bigots are found.


Culled:
Braithwaite reportedly died on Monday morning, March 28, 2016 at St. Nicholas Hospital, Lagos.

The founder of the Nigerian Advance Party, NAP was a delegate at the 2014 National Conference, canvassed for a Confederal Constitution to replace the 1999 Constitution.

He described the 1999 Constitution as Decree 24 which was presently destroying Nigeria and Nigerians, stressed that it should be thrown out and be replaced with either a Confederal constitution, with Nigeria operating con-federalism or a very loose federation.
...

”... The present 1999 Constitution or Decree 24 is enforcing a country that is destroying its own people, and should be rejected outright.

”This Conference must therefore be as much a development conference as a constitutional one. It is our firm conviction that only a Confederal Constitution or a very loose federation is best suited for Nigeria. I say this because I know that no part of Nigeria is desert."

From the beginning Enahoro was pro-peaceful and bloodless seccesion and anti-bloody secession. Ojukwu's approach was a matter of bloodshed so he rejected it as a matter of principles. Enahoro placed lives of innocent civilians over political expediency while Ojukwu placed political expediency over innocent lives. Go figure.
What did Ojukwu achieve for his people too after the war? If Ndigbo are shining in "One-Nigeria", then why are they complaining of marginalization everyday now? Zik deceived Ndigbo by initially supporting Biafra but later abandoned them for the side of "One-Nigeria" after "One-Nigeria" had killed over 3 million Igbos. GEJ adopted Azikiwe's name and with that lost an election. The Zik of Africa and "One Nigeria" died as Owele of Onitsha. Even Ojukwu your hero and Zik's brother refused to attend Zik's burial but attended that of Awolowo - Zik's arch enemy.

How so? When Enahoro was one of the major proponents of Starvation of Bia***ns, unless of course you meant the lives of his fellow Edos.

Ojukwu sent his massacred people back to the North after the first massacre, and yet again they were massacred, Ojukwu negotiated peaceful resolution of the conflict in Aburi which the Akenzua and co destroyed. How exactly that translated to Ojukwu sacrificing the life of his people for political expediency is beyond my understanding.

Ojukwu achieved for us dignity, the Igbo man will forever be grateful to him for that.

We are crying of marginalization, even though we receive from Nigeria 1 million Times what Edo can ever receive, because we know we can achieve so much more as an independent nation.

GEJ won 2011 election with Azikiwe. I wonder why he never chose to answer Enahoro? Could it be because he knew that both Enahoro and his people are completely irrelevant in the Nigerian political sphere?
Again, Edo voting massively for Buhari against an Ijaw man in GEJ goes further to buttress my point of Edo not being in tandem politically or culturally with Edos.

Zik died a celebrated man. Nnamdi Azikwe airport Abuja is not in Onitsha, it's in Abuja, 500 naira is not used only in Onitsha, it's used all over Nigeria, Edo has nobody in their entire history that could ever tie the shoe strings of Zik.

Enahoro on the other hand is a non entity, not known outside Edo state, even his people had to beg the FG to give him state burial to no avail.

Igboid:
They are just being sensible and realistic. Edoids and Yorubas are not necessarily trying to hold Igbos back in Nigeria as a punitive measure for their prevention of the upholding of the secession clause. No! They are only not interested in using violence to seek secession from "One-Nigeria". Igbos obviously want blood, but all other tribes don't. Not even all Igbos are into this call for bloody secession. Some sensible ones are, like Edoids and Yorubas, asking for a restructured constitution that will allow peaceful secession. Does that make such Igbos "One-Nigeria" appologists?

There exists not one single pro secession Violent Igbos group, but IPOB and MASSOB are all unarmed groups, so pray tell how Ndiigbo are leading a violent secession? We want blood because we say that we no longer want to share a nation with alien Edos, Yorubas and Northerners? Is that your definition of violence?

A demand for referendum is a demand for violence?

I wonder the kind of mindset Nigerians exhibit. When do a call for referendum translate to violence? It goes to speak a lot on the development level of these negro-sapiens inhabiting this part of the planet.

By preventing Ijaw secession, Ojukwu also forestalled the prospect of secession of all southern minorities who would obviously have taken a clue from a peaceful Ijaw secession to pull themselves out too. After all everyone except Igbos were already fed up with "One-Nigeria". Of all the Southern minority tribes the Ijaws were the most represented in the army. So they naturally were the boldest to declare a republic for other southern minorities to follow suit in case Ojukwu and Ironsi did not stop them. That is how my tribe and others come into the Ojukwu versus Ijaw war.


Still forcefully trying to attach to the Ijaws, when you are yet to sort out the Gelegele issue with them.

I am sure that even you know that what you wrote above is meaningless.
As it wasn't the Ijaw political class or Military class that declared their region independent, it was the lower class that Adaka Boro represented.

Again your strong desire to drag Ijaws into Edoids and Yoruboids matter is at best funny and reeks of desperation.

mekuzi09:


I wonder the kind of mindset Nigerians exhibit. When do a call for referendum translate to violence? It goes to speak a lot on the development level of these negro-sapiens inhabiting this part of the planet.

Brother, I tire.

Deadlytruth:


Nri Kingdom too thrived on blood and rituals to survive. If representation in the army followed population proportions then how come Igbos had more commissioned officers than the entire North whose population was multiple that of Igbos? Edo was not proportionally represented in the army because of the fact that the colonial masters deliberately gave administrative power to Hausas and gave military power to Igbos as these were the two most pliant and amenable tribes to their selfish interest.

Edo's were not interested in Aburi because Ojukwu had already rejected Benin as the meeting point claiming he would be killed there. Also the Aburi and all other trash was an issue between WaZoBia and Edo with other minorities had no business with it. Why could Ojukwu not patiently wait and consult more widely before declaring Biafra?

Your claim that Benin moats were built facing the East betrays crass Ignorance. Benin moats surrounded the city entirely.

You can cry as you like about Igbankes' decision to remain in Edo. Only Igbos see everything every other people's decision as stupid without caring to know why dey did so. Self-opinionated people. No wonder everyone abandoned them during the war.

Nri kingdom never subjugated any Igbo or non Igbo group,they were not empire builders, we can't say same of Bini.

Igbos had more officers because they embraced education more than the North. The North had more lower ranked officers, you needed education to be higher ranked, little wonder the likes of Buhari were allowed to scale through the higher ranks without pre requisite certificates.

The colonial masters wanted the Best,and fortunately Ndiigbo were the best.

The idea of Ndiigbo being more pliant to British colonial plans is a funny one, seeing as no Nigerian group resisted British rule more than Ndiigbo. The Ekumeku war, the Aba Women riots, the Anglo-Aro war, etc are testaments the the Igbo resistance to colonialism.

Ojukwu rejected Bini as a venue, because he knew that Edo was not neutral, Enahoro, and Akenzua were on the Gowon and Nigerian team, the choice of Aburi was well thought out, after what happened to Ironsi at Ibadan.

Edo was not part of the Aburi agreement, yet Edo persons were amongst the Nigerian contingent at Aburi, and the agreement would have given Midwest, the Edo enclave a regional autonomy and federalism.

Igboid:



Nri kingdom never subjugated any Igbo or non Igbo group,they were not empire builders, we can't say same of Bini.

Igbos had more officers because they embraced education more than the North. The North had more lower ranked officers, you needed education to be higher ranked, little wonder the likes of Buhari were allowed to scale through the higher ranks without pre requisite certificates.

The colonial masters wanted the Best,and fortunately Ndiigbo were the best.

The idea of Ndiigbo being more pliant to British colonial plans is a funny one, seeing as no Nigerian group resisted British rule more than Ndiigbo. The Ekumeku war, the Aba Women riots, the Anglo-Aro war, etc are testaments the the Igbo resistance to colonialism.

Ojukwu rejected Bini as a venue, because he knew that Edo was not neutral, Enahoro, and Akenzua were on the Gowon and Nigerian team, the choice of Aburi was well thought out, after what happened to Ironsi at Ibadan.

Edo was not part of the Aburi agreement, yet Edo persons were amongst the Nigerian contingent at Aburi, and the agreement would have given Midwest, the Edo enclave a regional autonomy and federalism.

I thought you already said Nri Kingdom gave the Benin Kingdom a run for its money so much that Benin had to protect itself from Nri onslaught by building moats facing the East? If not for expansionism and empire building intents what then was the motivation of that purported Nri onslaught which, according to you, forced Benin insulate itself with moats?
If level of education was responsible for Igbos dominance in the army as regards commissioned officers then how come Yorubas who so embraced education and pioneered the making of it free had far less commissioned officers than Igbos and Hausas put together? Igbos were actually pliant to British rule and Zik demonstrated that Igbo pliant nature by always believing in preserving and sustaining the "One-Nigeria" fraud created by Britain. If Igbos were not pliant why didn't just a single one of them ever rebel against Zik over that?

Your theory of Igbo resistance to British rule is not logical as resistance to British rule was not by Aba Women's riot that happened after British rule had started but about fighting against the very introduction of British rule for which Oba Ovoramwen was a quitessence unlike Igbos who offered no single resistance to the incoming of Britain.

As at the time a peace meeting was being sought between Ojukwu and Gowon with Benin as the proposed venue, Edos had not killed or spoken against any Igbo man despite the fact that Okotie-Eboh a very prominent Edoid son had just been murdered in cold blood by Ifeajuna-Igbo. So how come you now claim Ojukwu rejected Benin because Edo people were not neutral about the issues as of that moment?
The truth is Enahoro was released from Ironsi's/Ojukwu's further detention by Gowon and ordinarily could and should have, in vengeance against Ojukwu and Igbos, rightly decided never to mediate between Gowon and Ojukwu. But he forgave Ojukwu's/Ironsi's past and offered himself together with Akenzua as mediators thus was neither on Nigeria's or Biafra's side. But Ojukwu's paranoia engendered by guilty conscience and shame would not allow him sit face to face with Enahoro in Benin hence his rejection of Benin.

If you now argue that Aburi Accord would have given the Midwest autonomy and federalism then how does that tally with the claim of 99% Igbos that Ironsi's Unification Decree did not dismantle federalism?

Igboid:
They are just being sensible and realistic. Edoids and Yorubas are not necessarily trying to hold Igbos back in Nigeria as a punitive measure for their prevention of the upholding of the secession clause. No! They are only not interested in using violence to seek secession from "One-Nigeria". Igbos obviously want blood, but all other tribes don't. Not even all Igbos are into this call for bloody secession. Some sensible ones are, like Edoids and Yorubas, asking for a restructured constitution that will allow peaceful secession. Does that make such Igbos "One-Nigeria" appologists?

There exists not one single pro secession violent Igbo group, both IPOB and MASSOB are all unarmed groups, so pray tell how Ndiigbo are leading a violent secession? We want blood because we say that we no longer want to share a nation with alien Edos, Yorubas and Northerners? Is that your definition of violence?

A demand for referendum is a demand for violence?

Have you yourself not been the one suggesting all over this thread that Enahoro and Edos were cowards for choosing to seek secession by constitutional and civil means rather than take up arms and join Ojukwu and Igbos in the bloody fight for Biafra? Are the speeches being made by Nnamdi Kanu on Radio Biafra not violence instigating? Has Kanu ever made a speech demanding referendum or that all his speeches have been about how he will take over the SS states whether they like it or not, and that Nigeria is a Zoo? What is the non-violence in all of that?

Deadlytruth:


Have you yourself not been the one suggesting all over this thread that Enahoro and Edos were cowards for choosing to seek secession by constitutional and civil means rather than take up arms and join Ojukwu and Igbos in the bloody fight for Biafra? Are the speeches being made by Nnamdi Kanu on Radio Biafra not violence instigating? Has Kanu ever made a speech demanding referendum or that all his speeches have been about how he will take over the SS states whether they like it or not, and that Nigeria is a Zoo? What is the non-violence in all of that?

Again, stop forcefully attaching to other groups in SS, this discussion is about Edos, Yorubas, Ndiigbo and Zik.

I am sure the other groups in SS can speak for themselves and don't need an Edo spokesperson. You don't see Edo in any proposed Bia*** map, do you?

How exactly has Kanu speech been Violent? All perceived violent speeches from Kanu were all in retaliation to violent speeches from the camps of Edo, Yorubas and their Northern owners. Yes, if you listen to RB, you will know that IPOB has been demanding for referendum on all her perceived Bia*** territories.

If Edo declared Independence and Zik mobilized the state to invade Edo, you would have had a point, but none of those scenario happened, which is why you are desperately trying to rope in Ijaws, whose scenario happened after the Edo own could or could not have happened, depending on Edo actions. We can only speak on things that happened and not on things you think could have happened.

Edo needed not to pick up arms, all they needed was stand by Aburi, which ensured equity for Edos themselves, or atleast try to stay away from corrupting Gowon's mind over Aburi.

Igboid:
From the beginning Enahoro was pro-peaceful and bloodless seccesion and anti-bloody secession. Ojukwu's approach was a matter of bloodshed so he rejected it as a matter of principles. Enahoro placed lives of innocent civilians over political expediency while Ojukwu placed political expediency over innocent lives. Go figure.
What did Ojukwu achieve for his people too after the war? If Ndigbo are shining in "One-Nigeria", then why are they complaining of marginalization everyday now? Zik deceived Ndigbo by initially supporting Biafra but later abandoned them for the side of "One-Nigeria" after "One-Nigeria" had killed over 3 million Igbos. GEJ adopted Azikiwe's name and with that lost an election. The Zik of Africa and "One Nigeria" died as Owele of Onitsha. Even Ojukwu your hero and Zik's brother refused to attend Zik's burial but attended that of Awolowo - Zik's arch enemy.

How so? When Enahoro was one of the major proponents of Starvation of Bia***ns, unless of course you meant the lives of his fellow Edos.

Ojukwu sent his massacred people back to the North after the first massacre, and yet again they were massacred, Ojukwu negotiated peaceful resolution of the conflict in Aburi which the Akenzua and co destroyed. How exactly that translated to Ojukwu sacrificing the life of his people for political expediency is beyond my understanding.

Ojukwu achieved for us dignity, the Igbo man will forever be grateful to him for that.

We are crying of marginalization, even though we receive from Nigeria 1 million Times what Edo can ever receive, because we know we can achieve so much more as an independent nation.

GEJ won 2011 election with Azikiwe. I wonder why he never chose to answer Enahoro? Could it be because he knew that both Enahoro and his people are completely irrelevant in the Nigerian political sphere?
Again, Edo voting massively for Buhari against an Ijaw man in GEJ goes further to buttress my point of Edo not being in tandem politically or culturally with Edos.

Zik died a celebrated man. Nnamdi Azikwe airport Abuja is not in Onitsha, it's in Abuja, 500 naira is not used only in Onitsha, it's used all over Nigeria, Edo has nobody in their entire history that could ever tie the shoe strings of Zik.

Enahoro on the other hand is a non entity, not known outside Edo state, even his people had to beg the FG to give him state burial to no avail.

So Enahoro has suddenly become the Awolowo whom you people accuse of proposing the starvation policy. That is a symptom of inconsistency.
It was the duty of every leader then to protect his own people. All others did but Zik and Ojukwu did not. So how was that Enahoro's fault?

Ojukwu knew that Hausas had in 1945 and 1953 demonstrated their hatred for and strong will to always massacre Igbos for flimsy excuses yet he kept sending Igbos back to the North in the name of seeking peace. That was nothing other than unnecessary human sacrifice for political expediency of "peace". If he were totally Ignorant of the 1945 and 1953 massacres I would have agreed that his sending those Igbos back in 1966 was naïve and innocent.
Ojukwu whom you claimed did so much for Igbos failed to get up to 10% of Igbo votes in 2003 while OBJ a Yoruba man and lackey of the North swept the rest over 90%. That logically means Ojukwu did not really achieve much for Igbos or Igbos are simply ingrates. The APGA which Ojukwu left for them is in a state of atrophy today as both PDP and APC each has more Igbo members than APGA.

You are very correct to say that Igbos are crying of marginalization despite receiving a million times what Edo can ever receive. Yes you are, beacuse it vindicates my position that Igbos' cry of marginalization is not a cry over injustice but a cry over being refused to be in charge of that injustice and fraud called "One-Nigeria". Once they are in charge of the fraud they'll shut up.

GEJ won in 2011 with the votes of SS, SW and Middle-Belt each being higher than that of SE. He lost when Igbos started claiming to own him more than the SW, Middle Belt and even his own SS. He won in Edo, Imo State too gave a very high percentage of their votes to Buhari. GEJ chose to answer Azikiwe because he knew Igbos could easily be courted with mundane things. That was why Igbos did not bother when he abandoned the SE and pumped billions into infrastructure for the North. To Igbos, adopting the name, was more than infrastructural development.

Edos don't ever pray to have someone like Zik who watched his people's blood being shed yet continued chanting "One-Nigeria". Tufiakwa!!!!!!!

A lot of Igbos don't celebrate Zik. Even Ojuwkwu the overall Igbo leader called Zik a dreamer who left Ndigbo unclad and unprotected. Ojukwu purposely refused to attend his burial in order to spite his corpse. A man who was never stable in his life. Always aligned with the Norther feudal Oligarchy against the South. Edo will never have such a person.

Igboid:


Again, stop forcefully attaching to other groups in SS, this discussion is about Edos, Yorubas, Ndiigbo and Zik.

I am sure the other groups in SS can speak for themselves and don't need an Edo spokesperson. You don't see Edo in any proposed Bia*** map, do you?

How exactly has Kanu speech been Violent? All perceived violent speeches from Kanu were all in retaliation to violent speeches from the camps of Edo, Yorubas and their Northern owners. Yes, if you listen to RB, you will know that IPOB has been demanding for referendum on all her perceived Bia*** territories.

If Edo declared Independence and Zik mobilized the state to invade Edo, you would have had a point, but none of those scenario happened, which is why you are desperately trying to rope in Ijaws, whose scenario happened after the Edo own could or could not have happened, depending on Edo actions. We can only speak on things that happened and not on things you think could have happened.

Edo needed not to pick up arms, all they needed was stand by Aburi, which ensured equity for Edos themselves, or atleast try to stay away from corrupting Gowon's mind over Aburi.

When we started this debate it was strictly about Edoid and Igbo, but it was you who brought in Yorubas mention to buttress your point. Are you yourself Yoruba? Please check backwards. So why now trying to stop me too from citing Ijaws to buttress mine? Double standards?
You know the Ijaw experience narrative is the most powerful and unassailable evidence of Igbos guilt and hypocrisy in Nigeria hence you are not comfortable with it thus you keep trying to conceal it. I will keep using it because there lies the ugliest part of Igbo oppression of the Southern minorities.

I have repeatedly told you that Edo was not interested in seeking independence through an unconstitutional self declaration that would warrant attack from Nigeria, but through the results of referendum which Zik botched. Must we seek independence the in the way Igbos want it? Why do Igbos always assume people must do things according to their own opinion? I don't get it!

If you don't see violence and unprovoked hate messages in Kanu's speeches then I wonder the Radio Biafra site you visit online.

Even the Aburi Accord was not a call for independence.
I thought you already argued that there was no guarantee that the secession clause would have been obeyed if Zik had allowed it into our constitution? So why are you now assuming that there was a guarantee that Aburi accord would have been obeyed if Edos had supported it (without prejudice to the falsehood in that claim anyway)?

Deadlytruth:


I thought you already said Nri Kingdom gave the Benin Kingdom a run for its money so much that Benin had to protect itself from Nri onslaught by building moats facing the East? If not for expansionism and empire building intents what then was the motivation of that purported Nri onslaught which, according to you, forced Benin insulate itself with moats?
If level of education was responsible for Igbos dominance in the army as regards commissioned officers then how come Yorubas who so embraced education and pioneered the making of it free had far less commissioned officers than Igbos and Hausas put together? Igbos were actually pliant to British rule and Zik demonstrated that Igbo pliant nature by always believing in preserving and sustaining the "One-Nigeria" fraud created by Britain. If Igbos were not pliant why didn't just a single one of them ever rebel against Zik over that?

Your theory of Igbo resistance to British rule is not logical as resistance to British rule was not by Aba Women's riot that happened after British rule had started but about fighting against the very introduction of British rule for which Oba Ovoramwen was a quitessence unlike Igbos who offered no single resistance to the incoming of Britain.

As at the time a peace meeting was being sought between Ojukwu and Gowon with Benin as the proposed venue, Edos had not killed or spoken against any Igbo man despite the fact that Okotie-Eboh a very prominent Edoid son had just been murdered in cold blood by Ifeajuna-Igbo. So how come you now claim Ojukwu rejected Benin because Edo people were not neutral about the issues as of that moment?
The truth is Enahoro was released from Ironsi's/Ojukwu's further detention by Gowon and ordinarily could and should have, in vengeance against Ojukwu and Igbos, rightly decided never to mediate between Gowon and Ojukwu. But he forgave Ojukwu's/Ironsi's past and offered himself together with Akenzua as mediators thus was neither on Nigeria's or Biafra's side. But Ojukwu's paranoia engendered by guilty conscience and shame would not allow him sit face to face with Enahoro in Benin hence his rejection of Benin.

If you now argue that Aburi Accord would have given the Midwest autonomy and federalism then how does that tally with the claim of 99% Igbos that Ironsi's Unification Decree did not dismantle federalism?

No, the Western Igbo clans I meant is the current Anioma kingdoms of Agbor, Owa, Igbodo, Ubulu Ukwu, etc. They refused to be fully colonized by Edo, they fought back against Bini imperialism.
They fought wars of survival against Edo and not for expansion or imperialism.

Army is not for the faint hearted, Yorubas never fancied the military, the Igbos were into everything.

Zik was one Nigeria apologist, but even in Zik time, there were Igbos who were anti Nigerian. Zik just eclipsed them all and stamped his authority and their voices died naturally.

Edo loyalty was with the North and Yorubas, Ojukwu perception was right when Edo personalities ended up with the Nigerian contingent in Aburi. Ojukwu was spot on, not choosing Edo as a neutral ground, Edos were not neutral. The advice of Akenzua to Gowon does not in any portray neutrality.

Lol! The so called Bini mushroom empire of blood and Gore was ransacked by the British in a matter of seconds. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Expedition_of_1897

I'm sure that even Arochukwu exerted more resistance to the British: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Aro_War. Read about Okoro Toti, a better commander than Bini ones.
Even the Western Igbos mounted a more serious resistance against colonialism:

Are you saying that since you believe Ironsi introduced unitary system that doesn't favour even Edos, Edos were right in kicking against true Federalism that would even favour Edo, simply because it was being pushed by another Igbo man in Ojukwu ? Talk about biting off one's nose to spite one's face.

Deadlytruth:


When we started this debate it was strictly about Edoid and Igbo, but it was you who brought in Yorubas mention to buttress your point. Are you yourself Yoruba? Please check backwards. So why now trying to stop me too from citing Ijaws to buttress mine? Double standards?
You know the Ijaw experience narrative is the most powerful and unassailable evidence of Igbos guilt and hypocrisy in Nigeria hence you are not comfortable with it thus you keep trying to conceal it. I will keep using it because there lies the ugliest part of Igbo oppression of the Southern minorities.

I have repeatedly told you that Edo was not interested in seeking independence through an unconstitutional self declaration that would warrant attack from Nigeria, but through the results of referendum which Zik botched. Must we seek independence the in the way Igbos want it? Why do Igbos always assume people must do things according to their own opinion? I don't get it!

If you don't see violence and unprovoked hate messages in Kanu's speeches then I wonder the Radio Biafra site you visit online.

Even the Aburi Accord was not a call for independence.
I thought you already argued that there was no guarantee that the secession clause would have been obeyed if Zik had allowed it into our constitution? So why are you now assuming that there was a guarantee that Aburi accord would have been obeyed if Edos had supported it (without prejudice to the falsehood in that claim anyway)?

On the contrary, from the beginning, I tied Edo aspirations to that of Yorubas, and rightly so. So you see, Yoruba were part of the discussion from the word go.

The discussion is centered around secession clause purportedly proposed by an EDO( Enahoro) and Yoruba ( Awo) persons, which the Edos and Yorubas now hide behind as the reason for their current "one Nigeria" stand, since they delusionally believe that Ndiigbo were the ones that denied their leaders Awo and Enahoro the opportunity to leave the union.


The Ijaws share no part in this secession clause and does not in any way make remarks about them.
It' the Yorubas and Edos that do. So it's basically impossible to separate Yoruba and Edos in this discussion, but it's only desperation that is making you to tag the Ijaws along, as I had showed they have absolutely nothing to do with the discussion, you as an Edo using the Ijaw angle is only an act of desperation, I can only discuss such with an Ijaw, or you can open thread about that separately.

You are yet to show any colonial evidence to prove that the secession clause was ever offered as an option to Nigerian groups, until you do so, we can only continue to go in circle, until you do, Zik cannot botch what never existed. I noticed you have dropped the Ethiopia- Eritrea angle.

No violence from Kanu. Kanu only reply those who threaten violence on Bia*** and Bia***ns, only a tree hears that it is about to be cut down and stays still.
Show me the so called Kanu violent speeches, and I will show you more violent ones from Edo/ Yoruba/ Northern elements that elicited that, actions bring about reactions. Today your Security agents are shooting at unarmed IPOBians and MASSOBians, unleashing untold violence on them, tomorrow when they decide to take it no more and pick up arms, you run Around accusing them of being a violent group, when in truth, they were only defending themselves from the real violent ones, ie Nigerians.

Yes, the very fact that Aburi accord was not about secession, proves the fact that Ojukwu and Ndiigbo were never up for secession, we just wanted a place we can call our own, free from the northern massacre.
History has it that Gowon had already agreed to the agreements at Aburi, until Edoid and Yoruboids voices started whispering to hid ears when he returned back to Lagos that true Federalism equates to secession, and must be resisted even if it meant war.

The same Edoids and Yoruboids that go about the social media today telling any that care to listen that a demand for referendum by IPOB and MASSOB must be interpreted as a demand for war.

Deadlytruth:


So Enahoro has suddenly become the Awolowo whom you people accuse of proposing the starvation policy. That is a symptom of inconsistency.
It was the duty of every leader then to protect his own people. All others did but Zik and Ojukwu did not. So how was that Enahoro's fault?

Ojukwu knew that Hausas had in 1945 and 1953 demonstrated their hatred for and strong will to always massacre Igbos for flimsy excuses yet he kept sending Igbos back to the North in the name of seeking peace. That was nothing other than unnecessary human sacrifice for political expediency of "peace". If he were totally Ignorant of the 1945 and 1953 massacres I would have agreed that his sending those Igbos back in 1966 was naïve and innocent.
Ojukwu whom you claimed did so much for Igbos failed to get up to 10% of Igbo votes in 2003 while OBJ a Yoruba man and lackey of the North swept the rest over 90%. That logically means Ojukwu did not really achieve much for Igbos or Igbos are simply ingrates. The APGA which Ojukwu left for them is in a state of atrophy today as both PDP and APC each has more Igbo members than APGA.

You are very correct to say that Igbos are crying of marginalization despite receiving a million times what Edo can ever receive. Yes you are, beacuse it vindicates my position that Igbos' cry of marginalization is not a cry over injustice but a cry over being refused to be in charge of that injustice and fraud called "One-Nigeria". Once they are in charge of the fraud they'll shut up.

GEJ won in 2011 with the votes of SS, SW and Middle-Belt each being higher than that of SE. He lost when Igbos started claiming to own him more than the SW, Middle Belt and even his own SS. He won in Edo, Imo State too gave a very high percentage of their votes to Buhari. GEJ chose to answer Azikiwe because he knew Igbos could easily be courted with mundane things. That was why Igbos did not bother when he abandoned the SE and pumped billions into infrastructure for the North. To Igbos, adopting the name, was more than infrastructural development.

Edos don't ever pray to have someone like Zik who watched his people's blood being shed yet continued chanting "One-Nigeria". Tufiakwa!!!!!!!

A lot of Igbos don't celebrate Zik. Even Ojuwkwu the overall Igbo leader called Zik a dreamer who left Ndigbo unclad and unprotected. Ojukwu purposely refused to attend his burial in order to spite his corpse. A man who was never stable in his life. Always aligned with the Norther feudal Oligarchy against the South. Edo will never have such a person.

It is a known fact that Enahoro was one of the proponents of Starvation policy, Awo wathe poster boy of it, and since until now, th Edos have not been vocal online with their Igbophobia, we simply let their own part of the Bia**** History be. But now that the Edos are becoming more vocal with their innate Igbophobia like their Yoruba brothers, expect from now onwards similar dedication to be put by Igbos in decimating your propaganda and exposing your ugly pasts, lik we have done with your Yoruba co travellers.

Ojukwu was born in the North, fluent in Hausa and Yoruba language. One can understand his naivety in believing in Nigerian unity even after the first massacre of Ndiigbo following the July coup, Ojukwu still believed in the unity of the country, and after wide consultation with Northern leaders who promised him of Igbo safety, he once again told Igbos that came back from the North wounded and alive to return back, that everything had been sorted out, but yet again they were massacred, still Ojukwu never stopped believing in the nation's unity but from then on wanted a loose centre, he sought for this in Aburi, again the agreement was turn to shreds by Gowon on advice from Edo and Yoruba elements .

Was he naive for ever believing in Nigerian unity and giving this unity a chance, even at the cost of the life of his people? Tough question for posterity to answer.

Was declaring secession from Nigeria that period the right decision, absolutely. There is no nation if citizens can't reside peacefully without being massacred in any part of the nation. A country that can't guarantee it's citizens safety within its territory is a dead country.

Lol! Can Ndiigbo ever please our distractors, Ndiigbo voting a Yoruba man against an Igbo hero when viewed by a stable mind will be peceived as the testament of the Igbo free liberal spirit that holds not unto grudge done to her for long, but ever searching for advancement of her interests and for a better future, it would be seen as the epitome of detribalized nature of the average Igbo man.

But we know that an Igbophobic man is a deformed mind that is far from being stable, so your interpretation of the events of Obj winning votes in Igboland is to be expected.

The truth is that the official result was massively rigged by OBJ,most Igbos actually voted for Ojukwu, but the truth is also that if the official result reflected that reality, Igbophobic minds will still twist it and use it as a proof of the Igbo tribal nature, they would say: "Look, the Igbos only vote for one of their own and no other, they are wicked tribalists".


Igbos cry of marginalization, because we know we are worth more than Nigeria can ever offer us. Not even Igbo presidency will stop Igbo cry for independence from the colonial contraption, as it stands.

On the 2011 votes and Igbo significance to GEJ win, that was dealt in this thread by pazienza :https://www.nairaland.com/2689084/yorubas-fought-north-make-goodluck/4

Funny enough, that thread was opened by an Edo person. Without Igbo votes in 2011, there wouldn't have been a GEJ win.

Igbos knew that GEJ was not Igbo. Lol! GEJ can't speak Igbo, but we are not the type to bite off our nose to spite our face. GEJ embraced Ndiigbo from the beginning, his wife has roots in Ohuhu Umuahia, he called us his own, and we reciprocated in kind.
He didn't do much for us, but same can be said of the Yoruba and Northern past presidents too. Under GEJ equity was restored to the polity, and whenever equity reigned, Igbos would out thrived others.

This was the Edo/ Yoruba / North grouse with GEJ, not because he did much for Ndiigbo, cos he didn't, but because he restored equity to the polity , and equity is like fertilizer to Ndiigbo.

Both Enahoro and Akenzua were in Lagos rolling on the floor for Gowon and Northern military leaders, and worked against the East for the North. but today neither of them or their people have anything to show for it. Even Asaba has surpassed Bini city in most things.

Igboid:


On the contrary, from the beginning, I tied Edo aspirations to that of Yorubas, and rightly so. So you see, Yoruba were part of the discussion from the word go.

The discussion is centered around secession clause purportedly proposed by an EDO( Enahoro) and Yoruba ( Awo) persons, which the Edos and Yorubas now hide behind as the reason for their current "one Nigeria" stand, since they delusionally believe that Ndiigbo were the ones that denied their leaders Awo and Enahoro the opportunity to leave the union.


The Ijaws share no part in this secession clause and does not in any way make remarks about them.
It' the Yorubas and Edos that do. So it's basically impossible to separate Yoruba and Edos in this discussion, but it's only desperation that is making you to tag the Ijaws along, as I had showed they have absolutely nothing to do with the discussion, you as an Edo using the Ijaw angle is only an act of desperation, I can only discuss such with an Ijaw, or you can open thread about that separately.

You are yet to show any colonial evidence to prove that the secession clause was ever offered as an option to Nigerian groups, until you do so, we can only continue to go in circle, until you do, Zik cannot botch what never existed. I noticed you have dropped the Ethiopia- Eritrea angle.

No violence from Kanu. Kanu only reply those who threaten violence on Bia*** and Bia***ns, only a tree hears that it is about to be cut down and stays still.
Show me the so called Kanu violent speeches, and I will show you more violent ones from Edo/ Yoruba/ Northern elements that elicited that, actions bring about reactions. Today your Security agents are shooting at unarmed IPOBians and MASSOBians, unleashing untold violence on them, tomorrow when they decide to take it no more and pick up arms, you run Around accusing them of being a violent group, when in truth, they were only defending themselves from the real violent ones, ie Nigerians.

Yes, the very fact that Aburi accord was not about secession, proves the fact that Ojukwu and Ndiigbo were never up for secession, we just wanted a place we can call our own, free from the northern massacre.
History has it that Gowon had already agreed to the agreements at Aburi, until Edoid and Yoruboids voices started whispering to hid ears when he returned back to Lagos that true Federalism equates to secession, and must be resisted even if it meant war.

The same Edoids and Yoruboids that go about the social media today telling any that care to listen that a demand for referendum by IPOB and MASSOB must be interpreted as a demand for war.

"[On the contrary, from the beginning, I tied Edo aspirations to that of Yorubas, and rightly so. So you see, Yoruba were part of the discussion from the word go.]"



The I too was free to tie Edo defence to the Ijaw narrative and I rightly did. Is what is good for the goose no longer good for the gander?



"[ The discussion is centered around secession clause purportedly proposed by an EDO( Enahoro) and Yoruba ( Awo) persons, which the Edos and Yorubas now hide behind as the reason for their current "one Nigeria" stand, since they delusionally believe that Ndiigbo were the ones that denied their leaders Awo and Enahoro the opportunity to leave the union.]"



And I have been making it clear that Edos and Yorubas still believe in secession but not ready to risk going about it in concert with Igbos because Igbos are hypocritic insincere about secession but only crying for it because they are no longer in charge of "One-Nigeria" and that if anything returns them to power once more and they begin to benefit from the fraud they'll tag as tribalists whoever talks of secession. They did so before when they felt they needed other tribes to survive.


[ The Ijaws share no part in this secession clause and does not in any way make remarks about them.
It' the Yorubas and Edos that do. So it's basically impossible to separate Yoruba and Edos in this discussion, but it's only desperation that is making you to tag the Ijaws along, as I had showed they have absolutely nothing to do with the discussion, you as an Edo using the Ijaw angle is only an act of desperation, I can only discuss such with an Ijaw, or you can open thread about that separately.]"



The Ijaws were mentioned by me not in connection with the secession clause proposal but as an evidence to prove you wrong on the claim that Ojukwu's and Zik's craze about "One-Nigeria" was informed by fear of Britain.



"[ You are yet to show any colonial evidence to prove that the secession clause was ever offered as an option to Nigerian groups, until you do so, we can only continue to go in circle, until you do, Zik cannot botch what never existed. I noticed you have dropped the Ethiopia- Eritrea angle.]"


You assumed there is no evidence that Enahoro proposed secession clause and you've ironically been trying to rationalize Zik's rejection of it. Hmmm!
Yes I dropped the Eritrea Angle after I successfully used it to puncture your over-exaggeration of British approval/disapproval in determining the outcome of the quest for secession in Africa.




"[No violence from Kanu. Kanu only reply those who threaten violence on Bia*** and Bia***ns, only a tree hears that it is about to be cut down and stays still.
Show me the so called Kanu violent speeches, and I will show you more violent ones from Edo/ Yoruba/ Northern elements that elicited that, actions bring about reactions. Today your Security agents are shooting at unarmed IPOBians and MASSOBians, unleashing untold violence on them, tomorrow when they decide to take it no more and pick up arms, you run Around accusing them of being a violent group, when in truth, they were only defending themselves from the real violent ones, ie Nigerians.]"


Kanu has a Radio Biafra through which he makes his hate speeches. He even once called Jonathan a fool. In fact all members of Radio BIAFRA Facebook page call SS people fools and slaves of the North for being indifferent to Biafra movement. Go visit it. But Edo collectively has no online Page dedicated to insulting any other tribe in Nigeria.

" [Yes, the very fact that Aburi accord was not about secession, proves the fact that Ojukwu and Ndiigbo were never up for secession, we just wanted a place we can call our own, free from the northern massacre.
History has it that Gowon had already agreed to the agreements at Aburi, until Edoid and Yoruboids voices started whispering to hid ears when he returned back to Lagos that true Federalism equates to secession, and must be resisted even if it meant war.]"



And the very fact that Enahoro proposed secession clause did not really mean he wanted secession but that he was only trying to make a constitutional provision that would have instilled into all our future leaders the fear of the consequences of misgovernance thus Nigeria would not have been so misgoverned to attract a military coup which culminated in a national tragedy of genocidal proportions.
Awolowo visited Ojukwu severally to discuss with him why he should not resort to war but to keep appealing for wider sympathy and support for implementation
But ojukwu followed his heart and not his head. If Awolowo and Enahoro were really the ones whispering into Gowon's ears to throw away the Aburi document then why did Ojukwu not shoot Awo dead when he came visiting to advice him against war? Remember Ojukwu hated double playing? Ifeajuna's execution was an example.



"[The same Edoids and Yoruboids that go about the social media today telling any that care to listen that a demand for referendum by IPOB and MASSOB must be interpreted as a demand for war.]


Yes of course! Referendum for secession is not provided for in our constitution courtesy of Igbos' rejection of it. So it is illegal and asking for war for Igbos to make an unconstitutional demand.
The advice Edos have always had for Ndigbo is to get their NASS members to sponsor a bill for a restructuring which will capture confederal features, and then lobby the SS, SW and Middle-Belt for support so as to make majority against the core-North which is against it. That way Igbo will get secession peacefully.

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Igboid:


It is a known fact that Enahoro was one of the proponents of Starvation policy, Awo wathe poster boy of it, and since until now, th Edos have not been vocal online with their Igbophobia, we simply let their own part of the Bia**** History be. But now that the Edos are becoming more vocal with their innate Igbophobia like their Yoruba brothers, expect from now onwards similar dedication to be put by Igbos in decimating your propaganda and exposing your ugly pasts, lik we have done with your Yoruba co travellers.

Ojukwu was born in the North, fluent in Hausa and Yoruba language. One can understand his naivety in believing in Nigerian unity even after the first massacre of Ndiigbo following the July coup, Ojukwu still believed in the unity of the country, and after wide consultation with Northern leaders who promised him of Igbo safety, he once again told Igbos that came back from the North wounded and alive to return back, that everything had been sorted out, but yet again they were massacred, still Ojukwu never stopped believing in the nation's unity but from then on wanted a loose centre, he sought for this in Aburi, again the agreement was turn to shreds by Gowon on advice from Edo and Yoruba elements .

Was he naive for ever believing in Nigerian unity and giving this unity a chance, even at the cost of the life of his people? Tough question for posterity to answer.

Was declaring secession from Nigeria that period the right decision, absolutely. There is no nation if citizens can't reside peacefully without being massacred in any part of the nation. A country that can't guarantee it's citizens safety within its territory is a dead country.

Lol! Can Ndiigbo ever please our distractors, Ndiigbo voting a Yoruba man against an Igbo hero when viewed by a stable mind will be peceived as the testament of the Igbo free liberal spirit that holds not unto grudge done to her for long, but ever searching for advancement of her interests and for a better future, it would be seen as the epitome of detribalized nature of the average Igbo man.

But we know that an Igbophobic man is a deformed mind that is far from being stable, so your interpretation of the events of Obj winning votes in Igboland is to be expected.

The truth is that the official result was massively rigged by OBJ,most Igbos actually voted for Ojukwu, but the truth is also that if the official result reflected that reality, Igbophobic minds will still twist it and use it as a proof of the Igbo tribal nature, they would say: "Look, the Igbos only vote for one of their own and no other, they are wicked tribalists".


Igbos cry of marginalization, because we know we are worth more than Nigeria can ever offer us. Not even Igbo presidency will stop Igbo cry for independence from the colonial contraption, as it stands.

On the 2011 votes and Igbo significance to GEJ win, that was dealt in this thread by pazienza :https://www.nairaland.com/2689084/yorubas-fought-north-make-goodluck/4

Funny enough, that thread was opened by an Edo person. Without Igbo votes in 2011, there wouldn't have been a GEJ win.

Igbos knew that GEJ was not Igbo. Lol! GEJ can't speak Igbo, but we are not the type to bite off our nose to spite our face. GEJ embraced Ndiigbo from the beginning, his wife has roots in Ohuhu Umuahia, he called us his own, and we reciprocated in kind.
He didn't do much for us, but same can be said of the Yoruba and Northern past presidents too. Under GEJ equity was restored to the polity, and whenever equity reigned, Igbos would out thrived others.

This was the Edo/ Yoruba / North grouse with GEJ, not because he did much for Ndiigbo, cos he didn't, but because he restored equity to the polity , and equity is like fertilizer to Ndiigbo.

Both Enahoro and Akenzua were in Lagos rolling on the floor for Gowon and Northern military leaders, and worked against the East for the North. but today neither of them or their people have anything to show for it. Even Asaba has surpassed Bini city in most things.

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"[ It is a known fact that Enahoro was one of the proponents of Starvation policy, Awo wathe poster boy of it]"

Awolowo's gave his advice to gowon as a Minister under Gowon. Enahoro was not part of Gowon's government, so your attempt to glue Enahoro to that policy is artificial and mischievous.

"[, and since until now, th Edos have not been vocal online with their Igbophobia, we simply let their own part of the Bia**** History be. But now that the Edos are becoming more vocal with their innate Igbophobia like their Yoruba brothers, expect from now onwards similar dedication to be put by Igbos in decimating your propaganda and exposing your ugly pasts, lik we have done with your Yoruba co travellers.]"

This vindicates my stand that Igbos do everything out of political expediency and not for principles or based on truth. If you really have issues against Edoids why wait till they purportedly decided to express igbophobia? It was just like how Ojukwu watched the massacre of Igbos and never complained until it affected him politically as Ironsi was kicked out of power. Edoids on the other hand started expressing their Igbophobia Since after the 1967 Midwest invasion by Igbos.

"[ Ojukwu was born in the North, fluent in Hausa and Yoruba language. One can understand his naivety in believing in Nigerian unity even after the first massacre of Ndiigbo following the July coup, Ojukwu still believed in the unity of the country, and after wide consultation with Northern leaders who promised him of Igbo safety, he once again told Igbos that came back from the North wounded and alive to return back, that everything had been sorted out, but yet again they were massacred, still Ojukwu never stopped believing in the nation's unity but from then on wanted a loose centre, he sought for this in Aburi, again the agreement was turn to shreds by Gowon on advice from Edo and Yoruba elements]"

Who in his right senses would take seriously the Ojukwu, an Oxford University graduate for that matter, whom it took 5 incidents of massacre of his own people to see the light and thus began to ask for confederation? That was not naivete at all but political desperation carried too far. No university graduate at his age 34 years can be so sincerely naïve. A serious and sincere person should not have once more believed that there was still hope of national unity after Zik's NPC-NCNC alliance could not stop Northerners from continuing with shedding Igbo blood after the 1945 and 1953 massacres let alone the 1966 one which happened under Ironsi. This was why no one took Ojukwu too seriously in his later demand for all what not as they feared he could still later capitulate to the North as he had been demonstrating with his sending of wounded Igbos back to the scene of horror.
If his sending back of Igbos to the North was "genuinely" about indicating constant readiness for national unity then he should have sent them back again the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, .............. times until Northerners stopped killing them.
Was he naive for ever believing in Nigerian unity and giving this unity a chance, even at the cost of the life of his people? Tough question for posterity to answer.

"[Was declaring secession from Nigeria that period the right decision, absolutely. There is no nation if citizens can't reside peacefully without being massacred in any part of the nation. A country that can't guarantee it's citizens safety within its territory is a dead country.]"

The only effective way to have guarantee citizens' safety in Nigeria like any other country is by putting in place a very strong constitution which unfortunately was prevented through Zik who, by virtue of his level of education and exposure, knew that secession clause was part of the constitutions of all the countries with the highest records of citizens' safety guarantee as of then.

"[Lol! Can Ndiigbo ever please our distractors, Ndiigbo voting a Yoruba man against an Igbo hero when viewed by a stable mind will be peceived as the testament of the Igbo free liberal spirit that holds not unto grudge done to her for long, but ever searching for advancement of her interests and for a better future, it would be seen as the epitome of detribalized nature of the average Igbo man.]"

Genuine detribilazation and self-delusion are worlds apart. A people who keep justifying a clearly tribal coup in which their own brothers killed erring public officers of all other tribes and left their own brothers who were equally culpable can only be fooling themselves by later trying to prove detribalized by voting against their own hero and for man who was already misgoverning.


"[ But we know that an Igbophobic man is a deformed mind that is far from being stable, so your interpretation of the events of Obj winning votes in Igboland is to be expected. The truth is that the official result was massively rigged by OBJ,most Igbos actually voted for Ojukwu, but the truth is also that if the official result reflected that reality, Igbophobic minds will still twist it and use it as a proof of the Igbo tribal nature, they would say: "Look, the Igbos only vote for one of their own and no other, they are wicked tribalists]".

Rigging in 2003 happened only in the SW. Why did Ojukwu not go to court? OBJ/PDP swept it in the SE. Ndigbo could not have voted for any other party. Why not prove that detribalized nature in 2015 by voting against Jonathan Azikiwe but for Buhari who did not adopt Azikiwe as his name?


"[ Igbos cry of marginalization, because we know we are worth more than Nigeria can ever offer us. Not even Igbo presidency will stop Igbo cry for independence from the colonial contraption, as it stands.]"

Ironsi's presidency proves you utterly wrong. Which Igbo man ever cried for Igbo independence while Ironsi was in power?

"[ On the 2011 votes and Igbo significance to GEJ win, that was dealt in this thread by pazienza :https://www.nairaland.com/2689084/yorubas-fought-north-make-goodluck/4. Funny enough, that thread was opened by an Edo person. Without Igbo votes in 2011, there wouldn't have been a GEJ win.]"

A wide- off-the-mark remark. Igbo votes were rigged in 2011. Most Igbos states' votes for GEJ were inflated as their total votes or almost equalled or even exceeded the number of registered votes. Ask Pazienza to juxtapose the voters register figures with those results and you'll see the fraud. So the Edo poster knew exactly what he was saying.

"[Igbos knew that GEJ was not Igbo. Lol! GEJ can't speak Igbo, but we are not the type to bite off our nose to spite our face. GEJ embraced Ndiigbo from the beginning, his wife has roots in Ohuhu Umuahia, he called us his own, and we reciprocated in kind.]"

If GEJ was not Igbo then how does he become Igbos nose which you now claim Igbos refuse to cut to spite their face? See me see wonder!
Your support for GEJ was also a matter of political expediency and not as a matter of principle. It was for the expectation that he would hand over to Ndigbo in 2019 if he had won in 2015.

"[He didn't do much for us, but same can be said of the Yoruba and Northern past presidents too. Under GEJ equity was restored to the polity, and whenever equity reigned, Igbos would out thrived others.]"

If Igbos knew they would thrive better than others whenever equity reigned then why reject the secession clause that would have instituted eternal equity in Nigeria?

" [This was the Edo/ Yoruba/ North grouse with GEJ, not because he did much for Ndiigbo, cos he didn't, but because he restored equity to the polity, and equity is like fertilizer to Ndiigbo.]"




If at all Edo people collectively express grouse for GEJ, it was for his political expediency engendered naïve belief in pleasing the North to the detriment of the South like Ojukwu and Zik did and got their fingers badly burnt. Festus Odimegwu and other very prominent and realistic Igbos also observed that crass laxity in GEJ and spoke out against it. Odimegwu rote articles upon articles on that. But other Igbos like you who love lies insulted him and claimed he was being used by yorubas and Hausas. I guess you'll even say Festus Odimegwu is Yoruba or Edo.



"[ Both Enahoro and Akenzua were in Lagos rolling on the floor for Gowon and Northern military leaders, and worked against the East for the North. but today neither of them or their people have anything to show for it. Even Asaba has surpassed Bini city in most things.]"





Hahahaha, and Zik himself ran to Lagos and fell in front of the gate to Gowon's office rolling on the bare ground working and against Biafra after he realized Nigeria was winning. I agree with you that Asaba is better than Warri, Benin, Lagos, Aba, PH, Calabar, London, New York, Los Angeles, Tokyo, San Francisco, etc. Very childish utterance aimed at political correctness and expediency as usual. Asaba is better than Benin yet Benin was made capital of Bendel were Asaba was. What happened to logic?!

Igboid:


No, the Western Igbo clans I meant is the current Anioma kingdoms of Agbor, Owa, Igbodo, Ubulu Ukwu, etc. They refused to be fully colonized by Edo, they fought back against Bini imperialism.
They fought wars of survival against Edo and not for expansion or imperialism.

Army is not for the faint hearted, Yorubas never fancied the military, the Igbos were into everything.

Zik was one Nigeria apologist, but even in Zik time, there were Igbos who were anti Nigerian. Zik just eclipsed them all and stamped his authority and their voices died naturally.

Edo loyalty was with the North and Yorubas, Ojukwu perception was right when Edo personalities ended up with the Nigerian contingent in Aburi. Ojukwu was spot on, not choosing Edo as a neutral ground, Edos were not neutral. The advice of Akenzua to Gowon does not in any portray neutrality.

Lol! The so called Bini mushroom empire of blood and Gore was ransacked by the British in a matter of seconds. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Expedition_of_1897

I'm sure that even Arochukwu exerted more resistance to the British: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Aro_War. Read about Okoro Toti, a better commander than Bini ones.
Even the Western Igbos mounted a more serious resistance against colonialism:

Are you saying that since you believe Ironsi introduced unitary system that doesn't favour even Edos, Edos were right in kicking against true Federalism that would even favour Edo, simply because it was being pushed by another Igbo man in Ojukwu ? Talk about biting off one's nose to spite one's face.

At some point you call Benin a mushroom kingdom. At other points you call it a rampaging empire. Do words have meaning to you at all?
If the western Igbos fought a war of survival against Benin, then how come it was Benin that had to build a moat to protect herself according to you? Is this logical at all? If Benin ever actually attempted to forcefully subdue the western Igboid tribes, then how come they still so respect the Benin palace that till today no new king of theirs accepts crowning unless the Oba's delegates have arrived the coronation venue?
It took Britain four months to subdue Benin despite Britain's far more sophisticated weaponry. And at a point the British soldiers had to go back to London to reinforce. Even after British conquest Benin Kingdom still exists till today. A benin King (Akenzua) became a national political figure post-conquest. Where are the Nri and Arochukwu kings and palaces today?

All Igbos sheepishly followed Zik in his "one-Nigeria" apologetics because Zik told them that one god of Igbos had destined them to be in power over Nigeria and Africa forever and dominate all other tribes therefore. Mention just one Igbo who openly disagreed with Zik over his "One-Nigeria" doctrine back then.

Igbos were the first to befriend the Core Muslim North and show loyalty to them by helping them jail fellow southerners. Ojukwu and Ironsi worked to sustain the Hausa-Igbo friendship by releasing Hausa detainees and the coupists but holding in further detention all other southern tribes. That was a clear indication to Akenzua that Ojukwu and Igbos had not truly repented of their love for bondage under the Muslim core north. But Gowon a middle-Belt Christian came and released Enahoro and all other Southern tribes men from detention, so it was natural for Akenzua to trust a fellow Christian Gowon more than Ojukwu who was equally a Christian but had been hobnobbing with the Muslim core North to punish Southern co-Christians with further detention. Another basis for their doubt of Ojukwu's sincerity in asking for federalism and confederalism was that after Ojukwu wholeheartedly supported and cheerfully assisted Ironsi in promulgating the wicked unification and anti-secession decrees, but suddenly turned around in less than a year to start seeking Akenzua's and Enahoro's support in demanding for a reversal of those same two wicked decrees without first consulting them and tendering sincere apology for his past misdeeds. That was arrogance too far and which no one tolerates.

Deadlytruth:



At some point you call Benin a mushroom kingdom. At other points you call it a rampaging empire. Do words have meaning to you at all?
If the western Igbos fought a war of survival against Benin, then how come it was Benin that had to build a moat to protect herself according to you? Is this logical at all? If Benin ever actually attempted to forcefully subdue the western Igboid tribes, then how come they still so respect the Benin palace that till today no new king of theirs accepts crowning unless the Oba's delegates have arrived the coronation venue?
It took Britain four months to subdue Benin despite Britain's far more sophisticated weaponry. And at a point the British soldiers had to go back to London to reinforce. Even after British conquest Benin Kingdom still exists till today. A benin King (Akenzua) became a national political figure post-conquest. Where are the Nri and Arochukwu kings and palaces today?

All Igbos sheepishly followed Zik in his "one-Nigeria" apologetics because Zik told them that one god of Igbos had destined them to be in power over Nigeria and Africa forever and dominate all other tribes therefore. Mention just one Igbo who openly disagreed with Zik over his "One-Nigeria" doctrine back then.

Igbos were the first to befriend the Core Muslim North and show loyalty to them by helping them jail fellow southerners. Ojukwu and Ironsi worked to sustain the Hausa-Igbo friendship by releasing Hausa detainees and the coupists but holding in further detention all other southern tribes. That was a clear indication to Akenzua that Ojukwu and Igbos had not truly repented of their love for bondage under the Muslim core north. But Gowon a middle-Belt Christian came and released Enahoro and all other Southern tribes men from detention, so it was natural for Akenzua to trust a fellow Christian Gowon more than Ojukwu who was equally a Christian but had been hobnobbing with the Muslim core North to punish Southern co-Christians with further detention. Another basis for their doubt of Ojukwu's sincerity in asking for federalism and confederalism was that after Ojukwu wholeheartedly supported and cheerfully assisted Ironsi in promulgating the wicked unification and anti-secession decrees, but suddenly turned around in less than a year to start seeking Akenzua's and Enahoro's support in demanding for a reversal of those same two wicked decrees without first consulting them and tendering sincere apology for his past misdeeds. That was arrogance too far and which no one tolerates.

Very good.
Now stand up and support referendum so that your Igbo-inflicted frustrations will end forever. . . .

Make i no talk too much

Deadlytrash, your case is ridiculously irredeemable and there's nothing that can be done about it. It's a pathetic situation especially as you and your inconsequential Uneme-Nekhua clan are yet to come to terms with the verdict that your eternal portion remains with your Fulani masters. 

It's disheartening to observe that you're so confused as to not be bothered at all that this country is an expired entity. And that the so-called Nigerian constuition is itself a fraud foisted on the people by some greedy elements for their selfish ends. There was never a time the constituent parts of this country came together to write such a constitution, that began with "We the people of the Federal Republic of Nigeria...".

Inspite if your grandstanding on NL you have consistently failed to point out the contributions of your Uneme-Nekhua elites who have attempted to salvage this contraption from heading to the rocks. You have shied away from mentioning the Uneme-Nekhua elites that mattered during the pre-Independence/Independence era.

You and your inconsequential Uneme-Nekhua people are yet to grow a ball to dare challenge the marauding herdsmen who maim and kill your kinsmen for fun but you hypocritically and callously post silly comments against Igbos for daring to seek self-determination.
It has been a curse having your likes in the same country.

Deadlytrash, even if you donate your entire Uneme-Nekhua people for sacrifice for Igbos to have the Presidency come 2019/2023 so as to remain with you in this cesspit your sacrifice is only but in vain and cannot prevent the Igbo Nation from having a separate existence from greedy, treasury looters cum murderous parasites.


The Uneme-Nekhua people and their cotravellers have been busy rearing snakes in their backyard to bite another man. Now the jungle has matured and the monster cannot be restricted and are going to turn on whoever has them in the backyard.


Suffice it to state that the loudmouthed One-Nigerianists are only interested in being Northern puppets, so that they can continue to be guaranteed the free flow of crude oil and the privilege of barely surviving at the expense of others via gross injustice, lopsidedness and such fraudulent policies like Quota System.

Ojukwu - Ojukwu 1967


https://www.nairaland.com/3176656/ojukwu-great-prophet--femi-adesina

https://www.nairaland.com/3176229/picture-emeka-ojukwu-rugby-player-in-epsom-college

https://www.nairaland.com/3067208/rare-picture-first-university-graduate

https://www.nairaland.com/811927/ojukwu-lived-most-fulfilled-life

https://www.nairaland.com/2912591/untold-story-how-ojukwu-saved-murtala-mohammed-career

https://www.nairaland.com/3174651/inspirational-story-sir-louis-ojukwu

Dragonking:
Make i no talk too much

And how is it exactly news that Zik stood against secession.

The bone of contention is, if there was ever room for secession clause in the first place by the British.

So Enahoro has suddenly become the Awolowo whom you people accuse of proposing the starvation policy. That is a symptom of inconsistency.
It was the duty of every leader then to protect his own people. All others did but Zik and Ojukwu did not. So how was that Enahoro's fault?

Enahoro it was who went throttling all over the globe, promoting the starvation policy as a legitimate weapon of war. So too was Alison Ayida.


Chief Anthony Enahoro said during an interview in July 1968 in New York : "...it (mass starvation) is a legitimate aspect of war..."

Alison Ayida said in July 1968 in Niamey Peace Talks:
"Starvation is a legitimate weapon of war, and we have every intention of using it against the rebels..."


http://scannewsnigeria.com/opinion/chinua-achebes-book-quotations-on-biafrannigerian-war-facts-for-interpretation/

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"The I too was free to tie Edo defence to the Ijaw narrative and I rightly did. Is what is good for the goose no longer good for the gander"

No, you don't. Ijaws have nothing to do with the bone of contention of this discussion, which is secession clause. Bringing Ijaw into the discussion is an unnecessary diversion created by your desperation.






"And I have been making it clear that Edos and Yorubas still believe in secession but not ready to risk going about it in concert with Igbos because Igbos are hypocritic insincere about secession but only crying for it because they are no longer in charge of "One-Nigeria" and that if anything returns them to power once more and they begin to benefit from the fraud they'll tag as tribalists whoever talks of secession. They did so before when they felt they needed other tribes to survive"


There was never a time Ndiigbo were in charge of one Nigeria. What we were in charge of, was our destiny in the Eastern region, Zik gave up ultimate power to ensure Nigerian independence.
Nigeria is too small for Ndiigbo, we want the world. The Eastern region was the fastest growing region in the whole of. West Africa as of 1960, it was not being powered by crude oil or proceeds from Edoland, North or Yorubaland. It was powered by Coal and Palm oil that is found abundant in the Entire East.

Yorubas and Edoids are one Nigeria apologists and have always been so, you dread the outcome of Post Nigeria. Your claim to being pro secession is only your treachery speaking, like Awo pretended to be pro secession when he visited Ojukwu at Enugu when in truth he dreaded the future of an independent Oodua republic surrounded by Northern military, Enahoro and Akenzua were also driven by same fear. No one is deceived by your pro secession cause. Your fear and bile over the mention of pro secession groups like IPOB, MASSOB, MOSOP, NDA, Billie group, and impulsive need to demonize them, betrays you lots treachery of pro secession stand. You lots deceive no one.

This would explain why you lots sabotaged the Aburi agreement





"The Ijaws were mentioned by me not in connection with the secession clause proposal but as an evidence to prove you wrong on the claim that Ojukwu's and Zik's craze about "One-Nigeria" was informed by fear of Britain"

You still fail to get the point. There wouldn't be independence with seccession clause. You unnecessarily introduced Ojukwu into the discussion, when the discussion was about Zik and seccession clause. It wasn't Zik who fought to squash the Boro insurrection, it was Ojukwu. The introduction of that aspect of history, was yet again another diversion by your that is totally out the scope of our discussion. Ojukwu and Zik were two different individuals with conflicting interests for most times of their lives. Your desperation dragged Ojukwu, who had nothing to do with seccession clause into the discussion, as a means to introduce Ijaws into the discussion. Both Ojukwu and Ijaws are not part of the seccession clause drama.






"You assumed there is no evidence that Enahoro proposed secession clause and you've ironically been trying to rationalize Zik's rejection of it. Hmmm!
Yes I dropped the Eritrea Angle after I successfully used it to puncture your over-exaggeration of British approval/disapproval in determining the outcome of the quest for secession in Africa."

No, I argued there was never room for seccession clause and so Zik cannot botch what never existed, Zik was anti secession and not anti secession clause.

No, you were totally eviscerated on the Ethiopia-Eritrea angle, you exposed your ignorance there and was quick to avoid the ignominy of the defeat you suffered for ever bringing up that scenario up, as they were not in anyway related to our issue of discourse.
Ethiopia defeated a weakened Italy with foreign help to gain independence and not Britain.

If you want, we can revisit the Eritrea-Ethiopia discussion again.








"Kanu has a Radio Biafra through which he makes his hate speeches. He even once called Jonathan a fool. In fact all members of Radio BIAFRA Facebook page call SS people fools and slaves of the North for being indifferent to Biafra movement. Go visit it. But Edo collectively has no online Page dedicated to insulting any other tribe in Nigeria"

Radio Bia*** makes no hate speeches against any Nigerian group, except in retaliation to those who issue out hate speeches against Bia***ns, nothing like SS people, as we have Igbo people indigenous to SS and they even wield more influence in SS than Edo, so Ndiigbo can't insult "SS people" as such term doesn't exist. Radio Biafra Facebook page has no joy for Edos, or anybody that go about making anti Bia**** comments, it's often a case of self defense, action and reactions.





"And the very fact that Enahoro proposed secession clause did not really mean he wanted secession but that he was only trying to make a constitutional provision that would have instilled into all our future leaders the fear of the consequences of misgovernance thus Nigeria would not have been so misgoverned to attract a military coup which culminated in a national tragedy of genocidal proportions.
Awolowo visited Ojukwu severally to discuss with him why he should not resort to war but to keep appealing for wider sympathy and support for implementation
But ojukwu followed his heart and not his head. If Awolowo and Enahoro were really the ones whispering into Gowon's ears to throw away the Aburi document then why did Ojukwu not shoot Awo dead when he came visiting to advice him against war? Remember Ojukwu hated double playing? Ifeajuna's execution was an example".


What emotion could a hypocrite that was globe throttling promoting starvation against his fellow countrymen have to instill in future generation other than hatred? Enahoro remain a disgrace for promoting that policy, and that will be all history will remember him for. What would his secession clause do that the Aburi he kicked against couldn't do, simply because he harboured igbophobic thought process?

Awo was a treacherous being. He came to Ojukwu feigning neutrality and understanding to the Eastern pains. Yet he returned to the East preaching starvation policy. He was blinded by his greed for power.
How exactly did Ojukwu resort to war, if I remember clearly it was Awo and co that backed Gowon as he brought war to the East via Gakem border in the modern Northern Cross River state.
Ojukwu negotiated for peace in Aburi, Edo and Yoruba dubious personalities persuaded him to botch it, but to instead match towards Bia**** to force his own brand of unity without justice and equity.




"Yes of course! Referendum for secession is not provided for in our constitution courtesy of Igbos' rejection of it. So it is illegal and asking for war for Igbos to make an unconstitutional demand.
The advice Edos have always had for Ndigbo is to get their NASS members to sponsor a bill for a restructuring which will capture confederal features, and then lobby the SS, SW and Middle-Belt for support so as to make majority against the core-North which is against it. That way Igbo will get secession peacefully"


Edos will do better to advice themselves, and prepare for a future under the Arewaoduanistan Islamic jihadist republic, Ndiigbo don't need the advice of treacherous beings that can't even help themselves in Nigeria.

Right to self determination is a fundamental right enshrined by divinity, any man made constitution against that is divinely unconstitutional and will certainly not stand the test of time.
Stop screaming SS, use Edo. Edo interests is in total uniformity with SW and parallel to that of most ethnic groups in SS.

Ogoni under MOSOP are demanding for secession and had once in the past done so. Ijaw under NDA is doing same.

Only the treacherous Edos and their Yoruba co travellers go about feigning pro secession but are yet hostile and anger filled towards all pro seccession groups in SS and SE region.

Keep waiting for Ndiigbo to sponsor another secession bill for you, so that you and your Yoruba co travellers will rally behind the scene at the back of your Northern masters and gang up against us again.
Keep waiting.

Deadlytruth:

At some point you call Benin a mushroom kingdom. At other points you call it a rampaging empire. Do words have meaning to you at all?
If the western Igbos fought a war of survival against Benin, then how come it was Benin that had to build a moat to protect herself according to you? Is this logical at all? If Benin ever actually attempted to forcefully subdue the western Igboid tribes, then how come they still so respect the Benin palace that till today no new king of theirs accepts crowning unless the Oba's delegates have arrived the coronation venue?
It took Britain four months to subdue Benin despite Britain's far more sophisticated weaponry. And at a point the British soldiers had to go back to London to reinforce. Even after British conquest Benin Kingdom still exists till today. A benin King (Akenzua) became a national political figure post-conquest. Where are the Nri and Arochukwu kings and palaces today?
All Igbos sheepishly followed Zik in his "one-Nigeria" apologetics because Zik told them that one god of Igbos had destined them to be in power over Nigeria and Africa forever and dominate all other tribes therefore. Mention just one Igbo who openly disagreed with Zik over his "One-Nigeria" doctrine back then.
Igbos were the first to befriend the Core Muslim North and show loyalty to them by helping them jail fellow southerners. Ojukwu and Ironsi worked to sustain the Hausa-Igbo friendship by releasing Hausa detainees and the coupists but holding in further detention all other southern tribes. That was a clear indication to Akenzua that Ojukwu and Igbos had not truly repented of their love for bondage under the Muslim core north. But Gowon a middle-Belt Christian came and released Enahoro and all other Southern tribes men from detention, so it was natural for Akenzua to trust a fellow Christian Gowon more than Ojukwu who was equally a Christian but had been hobnobbing with the Muslim core North to punish Southern co-Christians with further detention. Another basis for their doubt of Ojukwu's sincerity in asking for federalism and confederalism was that after Ojukwu wholeheartedly supported and cheerfully assisted Ironsi in promulgating the wicked unification and anti-secession decrees, but suddenly turned around in less than a year to start seeking Akenzua's and Enahoro's support in demanding for a reversal of those same two wicked decrees without first consulting them and tendering sincere apology for his past misdeeds. That was arrogance too far and which no one tolerates.

Bini was a mushroom empire that sucked the blood of the weak.
Bini empire was defeated in a matter of a day. Sir admiral Harry Lawson completely ransacked Bini in 10 days the war lasted. Bini. Mushroom empire fell in 10 days. Aro confederation lasted for months. Go figure!
And no, British didn't have to go anywhere to reinforce,
The first expedition by Philip failed because he didn't get British approval, he acted on his own, and it was not really a war, as there were hardly any cross fire, they were just arrested and slaughtered by few Bini boarder guards.

Yes, It made sense that they built moats. When you invade a people and they defeat you, chances are that they could pursue you all the way to your own home and try to exact revenge. Bini was being tactful with the Moats.

How exactly did Akenzua become a national figure as Bini Oba. The Akenzua known was Akenzua the civil servant that worked at Enugu, and not Akenzua that later became an Oba of a mushroom empire on its death throes if not already dead.

Oba Akenzua remained a non entity that was reduced to house Boy by Yoruba Obas in the Western house of chiefs.

No, It wasn't Zik who made that comment. This was Zik's comment:

"It would appear that the God of Africa has specifically created the Igbo nation to lead the children of Africa from the bondage of the ages".

He made that comment at an Igbo Union meeting in Aba while addressing a bunch of Igbo nationalists in Aba. That statement was lifted out of context from his long speech in that gathering in 1949 by Yoruba propaganda media. Zik only meant to energize the Igbo community to commit more into independence fight.
He never denigrated other ethnic groups and spoke ill of them. He only sought to uplift the Igbo. This is in contrast to Oba Akenzua Igbophobic article on Ndiigbo in 1965, Akintola Igbophobic "Yoruba Ronu" speech and Saraduna infamous anti Igbo speech.

While Igbos focused on uplifting themselves, other Nigerian envious groups would rather focus on bringing Ndiigbo down than channeling the effort towards lifting themselves.

But even at that, the comment remain ever true. The God of the Earth had set Ndiigbo apart as a special race, that will tower over others through sheer hardwork and will power. A city that is set on a hill never to be Hidden. A constant pain at the heart of our haters who surround us. He was only stating a fact and nothing else. And he was speaking of Africa and not even Nigeria, for Nigeria is too small a playing field for Ndiigbo.

Lol! Ironsi held the coup planners in jail because he believed that they were more safe there. I don't know of the Northern coupists being released, I thought the coup was supposed to be an Igbo coup planned and executed solely by Igbo military men, so pray tell, what Northern coupists are you talking about?

Gowon couldn't have released any body in Enugu prison without Ojukwu permission, Ojukwu controlled the East, and never recognized Gowon's power over him or the East.
If Enahoro, Awo and other Edo treacherous beings reason for working against Aburi was because of petty vendetta against imaginary perceived injustice they felt done to them by Ojukwu and Ironsi , then they were even more pathetic than I thought.
Why should they take their grouse on Ojukwu and Ironsi and then exonerate the North( under Balewa) that rightly jailed them for committing treason against Balewa's government.
Oh I forgot, Awo, Enahoro and other AG traitors blamed Zik and Ndiigbo for their sin of treason, claiming that it was Ndiigbo that set them up, while at the same time exonerated Balewa, Akintola and the Yoruba judge that served them their justice?

Yet it's this same delusional Edo and Yoruba folks that you claim were neutral and expected Ojukwu to present himself to in Bini to gang up with their Northern masters and eliminate?

A coup was carried out that eliminated Northern leaders and with nerves hot in the North, you think the wise decision for Ironsi to make was release bunch of traitors ( Awo and Enahoro) who the North put in prison for trying to depose Balewa from power? To what end?

What anti seccession decree are you talking about? Again the conditions and scenario pre July coup were not same with those of post July coup, Ojukwu stance changed to reflect that. It's as simple as that.

Awolowo's gave his advice to gowon as a Minister under Gowon. Enahoro was not part of Gowon's government, so your attempt to glue Enahoro to that policy is artificial and mischievous.



This vindicates my stand that Igbos do everything out of political expediency and not for principles or based on truth. If you really have issues against Edoids why wait till they purportedly decided to express igbophobia? It was just like how Ojukwu watched the massacre of Igbos and never complained until it affected him politically as Ironsi was kicked out of power. Edoids on the other hand started expressing their Igbophobia Since after the 1967 Midwest invasion by Igbos.


Enahoro role in promoting the starvation policy is well documented and Akenzua role in scuttling the Aburi Accord is well documented too, as well as his Igbophobic article in 1965.


Why wait till Edoids come fore with their Igbophobia before puting them in their place like I am currently doing to you?
Well the Igbo would rather spend more Energy on growing into the most successful group out of Africa and advancing their individual and group interests than care about insignificant haters like Edos, as far as Edos keep their Igbophobia innate and stay comfortable in their perpetual insignificant and irrelevant position in the scheme of things.

No, Ojukwu watched the massacre of Igbos and decided enough is enough. He did this by drawing us a map called Bia***, and said, come back home within this line and will together fight for our collective survival against all odds. And for that, he occupies an envious place amongst the Igbo which has seen him honoured more than any Edo man can ever dream of.

Edos started expressing their Igbophobia in 1965 with Oba Akenzua infamous article, I will Post it here later, and went on to complete their Igbophobia when they conspired to scuttle the Aburi agreement that would have benefited them too. All these before. Gowon invaded Gakem and the East match to Lagos through the Midwest, a region Ndigbo have more political stake at than Edos, With indigenous Igbo population, where one of them, Osadebey, a staunch Igbo union member, was a premier before 1966 coup.

[b] Who in his right senses would take seriously the Ojukwu, an Oxford University graduate for that matter, whom it took 5 incidents of massacre of his own people to see the light and thus began to ask for confederation? That was not naivete at all but political desperation carried too far. No university graduate at his age 34 years can be so sincerely naïve. A serious and sincere person should not have once more believed that there was still hope of national unity after Zik's NPC-NCNC alliance could not stop Northerners from continuing with shedding Igbo blood after the 1945 and 1953 massacres let alone the 1966 one which happened under Ironsi. This was why no one took Ojukwu too seriously in his later demand for all what not as they feared he could still later capitulate to the North as he had been demonstrating with his sending of wounded Igbos back to the scene of horror.
If his sending back of Igbos to the North was "genuinely" about indicating constant readiness for national unity then he should have sent them back again the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, .............. times until Northerners stopped killing them.
Was he naive for ever believing in Nigerian unity and giving this unity a chance, even at the cost of the life of his people? Tough question for posterity to answer. [/b]

The last Igbo massacre occurred in 1953, before the July coup. And after that, even the North was at war with self, with the Jos and Tiv riots that were violently quenched, Even the West was soaked in blood as operation Wetie raged on, it was a rough beginning for all, and it's not hard to see why Zik and Even Ojukwu wer. willing to give the New country a chance.

On the sending the Igbos back to the North, that was simply an act of an innocent heart hell bent on giving the country's unity a chance, however, the North betrayed that trust and from then henceforth, Ojukwu stance on the unity of the country took a different course. Only a loose centre would do, he realized, and that was what he went for and argued for strongly at Aburi.

Your idea of him sending Ndiigbo to the North for infinity till the race it exterminated again exposes your Igbophobia and malevolence thought towards the Igbo. Good a thing both you and your Edo people are inconsequential in the scheme of things as it stands today.

Igboid:


And how is it exactly news that Zik stood against secession.

The bone of contention is, if there was ever room for secession clause in the first place by the British.

Why don't you go an ask Ekweremadu who also is an igbo man that re-echoed what Nnamdi Azikiwe said and did. You guys keep blaming everybody meanwhile you all were the major cause of our current problems. .