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It only takes one grain of truth to destroy mountains of lies.

Ndiigbo your God is alive. You shall always prosper in the midst of your enemies no matter what evil plan that they fashion against you.

HopeAtHand:



This map u uploaded doesn't mean much. Many a time, the colonials do not carry out holistic research, they just grouped ethnicities based on seemingly similar linguistics, which itself is based purely on assumptions. In critical analysis, one wil find out that the primary reason the british grouped Ikwerre together with Igbo was because it is easier to administer both as a whole and not necessarily because they felt Ikwerre was Igbo.

Thank you for the mention.

Pls i never uploaded any map. I just saw something that i felt interesting and would want you reacted to it. Again,base on your assertion of "administer-ability" as being the reason for the alleged grouping by the colonial masters,i had want to quickly point out that i never saw ogoni,Annang,etc,that are also closer to Igbo people,in that map.why was it so?. Again,does it mean those white people that drew this map,was actually trying to administer to "Igbo people" alone,before they came up with that map?.

*These ones are by-questions*
1. What do you tag "linguistic similiarity"?. Please answer with instances.
2. Whats the difference between "linguistic similiarity" and "linguistic variation"?. Cite instances pls.
3.In my language,we av' Amah,Urara,Ikpe,Ekwere,Abia,Udoh,etc,Igbo people has same.In the light of Questions 1& 2,kindly state if the aforementioned words are "linguistic similiarities" or "Linguistic variation".
4.whats the difference between Nation and ethnicity?. I will step aside and wait for your response. *And again*
5. What is the difference between language and dilect?.

On a neutral note;
-Take into cognizance that this map is 1903 map.
-Long before 1914 amalgamation.
-Long before Nigerian oil politics.
-Long before the civil war,and its aftermath!.

Huasamafia1:
Shut up how can my enemy be advising me .idiot a for njor .go n look for the moon n stars .yeye oil thief.avenger has enterd pH soon na akwaibom n nija go collapse then we shall see how brown roof idiots can survive.

Ipobi it pains u i see, but why NDA not attacking SE states only ND area?

I think the conversation on twitter is an interesting read....

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Femi Aribisala following as usually....

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HopeAthand,please am really waiting.

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Abagworo:



You are right about Igbo speaking but it doesn't mean one ethnic group. We(Nigerians) are English speaking but not English people. Hope you understand.

Shame!!

pacino26:

You sound very responsible and reasonable to foolish people.

hahahaha! you don finish abaGWORO the pro-abookina.

EteEdoho:
please am really waiting.

I am geared up to watch football, will attend to you later.

Thanx 4ur undastandn.

Abagworo:



You are right about Igbo speaking but it doesn't mean one ethnic group. We(Nigerians) are English speaking but not English people. Hope you understand.

Ahaa, onye mgbaghasa abiala.

bloodyBLOGGER:
Am sorry o, but the map shows the boundary of igbo speaking people. It doesnt include the Niger delta region as can be seen through the demarcation which encloses the igbo areas. This clearing buttress the fact that South South and the igbos aren't one
.


Check the map's key.

Igbo is an ethnic group while South south is a region and the map clearly shows igbo areas which also include south south igbos in the present day parts of delta state(anioma areas) and rivers( ikwerre/ portharcourt)..

These are the same people, some of their fathers brainwashed them, telling them they are not igbo.

Well let me stop here.

Suntzung:
Ipob land grabers, SS's be careful those Ugandans Would soon claim ancestral ownership of you land and all the oyel we de there!

all over the world we have
North (north east, north west) no north north.

East (no east east)

West (no west west)

South (south east, south west) no south south only in Nigeria cos someone must be played for a fool. His oil must be stolen & share as national cake. His lands poluted. Money made from his land used to develop semi sahara desert part of Nigeria.

Nkem4040:
Make sure you all read the note there also as Igbos having a check and balances government system that made colonialism difficult to penetrate Igboland. Goodness me...The Great Igbo Race. Nnamdi Kanu has been right...God bless you nwa Chineke.

Am actually not suprised. We are truly blessed


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Even the colonial masters knew our ancestors were the biblcal herbew


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Abagworo:



You are right about Igbo speaking but it doesn't mean one ethnic group. We(Nigerians) are English speaking but not English people. Hope you understand.

This Yoruba man, cant you be proud of your tribe, why are you always disgracing yourself on various social media impersonating other tribes, today i am a Yoruba, tomorrow you claim Igbo, next tomorrow you claim Hausa, are you sure that you are not from Nigier republic claiming Nigerian.

Even to the planters, it is either the master(planter) bow to the igbo indomitable spirit when aroused or he shoot the best slaves in the camp

Igbos were the super negros

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Nkem4040:
Make sure you all read the note there also as Igbos having a check and balances government system that made colonialism difficult to penetrate Igboland. Goodness me...The Great Igbo Race. Nnamdi Kanu has been right...God bless you nwa Chineke.

Nwa chineke,nwa chineke IGA adiooooh,

Onye obula so na igaghi adi nkpuru amu dajieya Ukwu. Ise

is Eket and some others Igbo speaking?

So does this answer the Ikwerre question?

I am actually from etche and i not surprised to see this, even though I was brought up with the mentality that i am not igbo, I always felt a close affinity to them, because that was the closest thing my language sounded like.

chukzyblingz:
is Eket and some others Igbo speaking?

Look at the boundary with thicker lines, it's not referring to the whole of the map.

Abagworo:



You are right about Igbo speaking but it doesn't mean one ethnic group. We(Nigerians) are English speaking but not English people. Hope you understand.

Please what other way do we define tribe in the world minus the indigenous language and culture of the people?

Abagworo:



You are right about Igbo speaking but it doesn't mean one ethnic group. We(Nigerians) are English speaking but not English people. Hope you understand.

Yes. Nigeria is English-speaking but our own native tongues retained. These so-called Igbo-speaking "non-Igbo" don't speak any other language apart from Igbo. So that analogy doesn't fit in.

kayfra:
So does this answer the Ikwerre question?

It's obvious Ikwerres have been lying all along. This old map just re-affirms what is in the public knowledge.

marshborn:

Look at the boundary with thicker lines, it's not referring to the whole of the map.

It's so strange that some people are just looking at the whole map.

The most important things are boundaries and legend below the map.

What do I feel about all these? I feel the pan igbo online agitators or historians are looking for ways of validating Igbo ownership and grips on Porthacourt and its territory. While I cannot for a fact dispute or accept their claims, its pertinent that they know that United Nations article recognizes human right which include the right of tribe that owns Porthacourt to be what and who they want to be.
That a group speaks igbo language doesn't necessarily make them Igbo. For example, people in Southern Kaduna speaks Hausa being close to and has acculturated into Hausa doesn't make them Hausa, so, that basis is completely wrong.

I honestly think the igbo country will be determined by what groups stand to gain if they should be part of it and not by a forcefully coercing people because they dress or speak igbo, that's will be a reflection of lack of cosmopolitan civilization in that part of the country.

What makes a race or ethnic group superior? Without any unreasonable debate I think such people will have with them at least 200 years or more of civilization, empire, human advancements, cosmopolitan culture and linguistics, what do writers of those books had to show for it?

The truth is that in the last 600 years in the areas now called Nigeria, only three major empires lasted into the 20th century; The Kanen Borno, Oyo and Benin Empires.
There are smaller kingdoms though like Tsoede, Jukun. I believe superior people should demonstrate superior organization, governance, commerce, historical relics and linguistic standardization.
In the event of a Nigeria disintegration which I do not hope for really, the Igbo may find it incapable of earning the trust of their neighbors and actually cone up with a much smaller country except they wish to wage decades of protracted wars that may work against it in the long run.

igbo superiority should be showing in today's Nigeria by leading in cutting edge technologies, medical advancements, political sagacity, cosmopolitan developments and in faith or religious evolutions, alas these aren't so, so on what basis is igbo superiority based? Africans are struggling and its a general stuffs, the igbo aren't better and in fact, have political structural challenges and are in most cases find it difficult to evolve a communal based human developmental ideas over individuals desires, now that's an African problem and igbo is not exempted may be even in a deeper quagmire.

mandarin:
What do I feel about all these? I feel the pan igbo online agitators or historians are looking for ways of validating Igbo ownership and grips on Porthacourt and its territory. While I cannot for a fact dispute or accept their claims, its pertinent that they know that United Nations article recognizes human right which include the right of tribe that owns Porthacourt to be what and who they want to be.
That a group speaks igbo language doesn't necessarily make them Igbo. For example, people in Southern Kaduna speaks Hausa being close to and has acculturated into Hausa doesn't make them Hausa, so, that basis is completely wrong.

I honestly think the igbo country will be determined by what groups stand to gain if they should be part of it and not by a forcefully coercing people because they dress or speak igbo, that's will be a reflection of lack of cosmopolitan civilization in that part of the country.

What makes a race or ethnic group superior? Without any unreasonable debate I think such people will have with them at least 200 years or more of civilization, empire, human advancements, cosmopolitan culture and linguistics, what do writers of those books had to show for it?

The truth is that in the last 600 years in the areas now called Nigeria, only three major empires lasted into the 20th century; The Kanen Borno, Oyo and Benin Empires.
There are smaller kingdoms though like Tsoede, Jukun. I believe superior people should demonstrate superior organization, governance, commerce, historical relics and linguistic standardization.
In the event of a Nigeria disintegration which I do not hope for really, the Igbo may find it incapable of earning the trust of their neighbors and actually cone up with a much smaller country except they wish to wage decades of protracted wars that may work against it in the long run.

igbo superiority should be showing in today's Nigeria by leading in cutting edge technologies, medical advancements, political sagacity, cosmopolitan developments and in faith or religious evolutions, alas these aren't so, so on what basis is igbo superiority based? Africans are struggling and its a general stuffs, the igbo aren't better and in fact, have political structural challenges and are in most cases find it difficult to evolve a communal based human developmental ideas over individuals desires, now that's an African problem and igbo is not exempted may be even in a deeper quagmire.

It's obvious you don't get the point of these arguments. It's about the lying which MUST stop. I'm Ngwa and categorized as Igbo, even when we have little Nri influence. But accepting that categorization of being a part of the Igbo nation doesn't mean Aba will be taken away from us(in fact we have lots of the Ohuhus in our land and they know their place and limits). So it's not about Port Harcourt or refusing you a right to self-determination. No Ikwerre group to the best of my knowledge contributes charity to anyone in the SE. So no one needs you per say. But lying about your Igbo identity is just obviously embarrassing as you can see.

OBAGADAFFI:
Hmm

OP what are the states/town in the large blank space on the right of the image?