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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:23pm On Jul 29, 2016
u guys did not understand mu post

i was talking about the condition's that is the breeding environment that got manipulated to an certain extent , BH was not in the picture , its fore runners where , but later BH was a direct product of that environment which had gotten more vitriolic.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by MikeCZA: 10:32pm On Jul 29, 2016
nemesis2u:
u guys did not understand mu post

i was talking about the condition's that is the breeding environment that got manipulated to an certain extent , BH was not in the picture , its fore runners where , but later BH was a direct product of that environment which had gotten more vitriolic.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by sheyiofficial(m): 10:59pm On Jul 29, 2016
Nigeria’s Tiny, Low-Tech Alpha Jets Have Flown in Brutal Wars Across Africa Now the former training jets are blasting Boko Haram by SEBASTIEN ROBLIN On the morning of June 19, 2016, seven Toyota Hilux trucks manned by Boko Haram fighters lay in wait near Daira Noro, Borno State in northeastern Nigeria. Members of a fundamentalist insurgency infamous for its terrorist attacks and kidnappings of young girls, the fighters had recently been chased out of their camps in Sambisa forest by an African multi-national task force. As the African forces advanced north in pursuit, the Boko Haram fighters had prepared a road-side ambush under tree cover. Two of their trucks were armed with heavy machine guns. The distant whine of small airplane engines sounded overhead. An unarmed civilian plane flew by. Then suddenly, a small twin-engine fighter — an Alpha Jet — came screaming over the horizon. Radioed the position of the Boko Haram fighters by the unarmed plane —  actually a King Air 350 surveillance aircraft — the Alpha Jet unleashed a barrage of rockets on the concealed ambush, followed by 250-pound bombs and strafing runs. The Toyotas were all destroyed and the ambush force thrown into chaos. Nigerian ground forces followed close on the heels of the jet and chased off the survivors. They counted 15 bodies and two abandoned rocket-propelled grenades. This incident, as reported by Nigerian air force Group Captain Ayodele Famuyiwa, highlights the role of air power in the struggle against the brutal Boko Haram insurgency in northern Nigeria. In addition to the Alpha Jets, Hind attack helicopters and F-7 fighters —  Chinese-built copies of the MiG-21 —  have taken part in the air campaign. But the Alpha Jets, taken out of near- retirement five years ago, also played in important — and at times controversial — role supporting Nigerian peacekeeping troops in Liberia and Sierra Leone during the 1990s. This is the story of how a diminutive jet trainer made its mark on West Africa.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by sheyiofficial(m): 11:01pm On Jul 29, 2016
A Franco-German collaboration France and Germany jointly designed the Alpha Jet in the 1970s to serve as a two-seat jet trainer — the airplane fighter pilots fly and practice firing weapons with before they begin training on combat aircraft. The French Dassault and German Dornier aviation companies were interested in replacing American T-33 jet trainers — adapted Korean War-era F-80 Shooting Stars — with an aircraft of their own manufacture. In the end, the Germans decided they’d rather stick with American trainers — but opted to produce the so-called Alpha Jet as a light ground- attack plane. You can tell the French Alpha-E Jets apart by their more rounded nose, while the German Alpha-As feature a needle-sharp nose accommodating more advanced avionics and sensors, including a Doppler radar navigation system. The Alpha Jet entered service in 1978. Eventually some 480 Alpha Jets were sold to 13 countries. The 93 German Alpha Jets retired in 1997, but the nearly 100 French Alpha Jets continue to serve as jet trainers. The Alpha Jet has a reputation for excellent low-speed handling and being very forgiving for novice pilots  — in fact, the French air force’s only complaint was that it was actually too easy for trainees, who received a nasty shock when they graduated to more difficult-to-handle combat aircraft. The small, lightweight jets — weighing fewer than four tons empty — are known for being highly maneuverable and can fly as fast as 621 miles per hour — faster than a typical airliner, but slower than the speed of sound. They can lug up to 5,500 pounds of munitions on five hardpoints, including precision-guided weapons like Maverick anti-tank missiles or even heat-seeking air-to-air missiles. However, a more typical load would include two SNEB unguided rocket pods, each carrying 18 68-millimeter rockets and two 250 pounds bombs. In addition, Alpha Jets come with a 27- or 30-millimeter revolver cannon that can spit out 22 explosive shells a second. Now, even with two extra fuel tanks, an Alpha Jet loaded for battle has an operational radius of only 380 miles and lacks many modern electronic systems. However, Alpha Jets are very cheap and easy to maintain compared to sophisticated jet fighters — and when fighting insurgents hiding in the bush, they are nearly as effective. How cheap? An Alpha Jet requires seven hours of maintenance per flight hour, compared to 19 for an F-16. In 1978, Alpha Jets sold for $4.5 million each — equivalent to $14 million today. Used Alpha Jets are considerably cheaper — one is being advertised right now for $950,000. This has led Alpha Jets to be widely resold to both civilian and military customers. Google even owns one. Most military Alpha Jets have been used in their original intended role —  as jet trainers. The Moroccan air force, however, employed some of theirs in its war against the Polisario rebels in Western Sahara. It’s the Nigerian air force, however, that has made the most combat use of the type. Nigeria reportedly acquired its initial 24 aircraft — nicknamed “A- Jets” — from Germany, but additional aircraft have been acquired over the years. Most of those photographed appear to be the French models.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by sheyiofficial(m): 11:04pm On Jul 29, 2016
Peacekeeping air strikes Nigeria is Africa’s most populous country, with more than 180 million inhabitants, and has long suffered from tensions stemming from ethnic and religious divisions. The Nigerian air force is probably most famous for the widely condemned bombing of the Biafra secessionist state — the 1960s equivalent of the conflict in Darfur. However, in the 1990s the Nigerian military embarked on a more defensible mission, at least in theory  — trying to restore order to a Liberia torn apart by Civil War as part of a West African peacekeeping force called ECOMOG. By 1990, the corrupt and brutal Liberian government of Samuel Doe had been nearly overthrown by two rebel factions, the National Patriotic Liberation Front led by Charles Taylor and a splinter group called the Independent NPLF. Funded by the sale of diamond and making wide scale use of child soldiers, the two rebel groups descended on the Liberian capital, Monrovia, in an orgy of killing, kidnapping and rape. In 1990, the English-speaking Western African countries agreed to form a roughly 3,000-man peacekeeping force called ECOMOG to prevent the capital from being seized by the rebels. ECOMOG’s largest contingent consisted of Nigerian troops. Up to 12,000 ECOMOG troops deployed at one point. Things did not begin auspiciously when Doe visited ECOMOG’s new headquarters to register a complaint. While there, he was kidnapped by INPFL soldiers, and videotaped being tortured to death while their leader, Prince Johnson, drank a beer and watched. Unlike a typical peacekeeping force, ECOMOG had to militarily subdue the rampaging NPFL first before it could try to organize a peaceful political settlement. In the last four months of 1990, a detachment four Alpha Jets hammered rebel enemy gun emplacements and supply convoys at Robertsfield International Airport and Charles Taylor’s headquarters in Kakata, forcing him to move his base. Later, ships running guns for Taylor were sunk in the seaport of Buchanan. “The firepower of NAF fighter aircraft has finally dealt an incalculable blow to the war effort of the NPFL leader,” Time reported. In October 1992, after a year and half of sporadic negotiations, Taylor launched a massive new assault on Monrovia. A detachment of six NAF Alpha Jets flew over a thousand missions in response, employing Beluga cluster bombs — a 628-pound munition that disperses 152 small bomblets by parachute. Lethal against troops in the open, cluster munitions are now banned by convention in Nigeria because of their tendency to leave behind unexploded mini-bomblets long after hostilities have ended. The NAF’s search-and-destroy mission were so effective in eliminating rebel vehicles that the NPFL began attacking at night. The Alpha Jet didn’t have night-flying equipment, but the NAF decided to give it a try anyway. Experienced pilots flew several night raids, fortunately without mishap. The low-flying jets were reported by to have chased and terrorized the civilian population. “They say this is proving Taylor was right, that ECOMOG is coming to kill us,” one journalist said to Africa Watch. Humanitarian relief convoys and civilian crowds were strafed and a food-storage warehouse in Buchanan bombed. A team of Firestone workers described their horror as an air strike hit a group of children playing soccer, killing 40. “”This is a low-tech war, and they are sloppy,” one journalist concluded. ECOMOG contended that it did not deliberately target civilians, but that the NPFL used them as human shields  — an assertion backed up by independent observers. ECOMOG troops, however, were implicated in looting and humans rights abuses. The siege of Monrovia was ultimately broken in the spring of 1993, and ECOMOG forces went on the offensive toward Buchanan. However, the Nigerian troops needed to cross Saint John’s River Bridge, which had already been wired with explosives. Alpha Jets were sent to strafe anyone trying to detonate the explosives until ECOMOG troops managed to cross the bridge. From then on, the strikes planes were involved interdicting the NPFL supply convoys and sank six of the group’s cargo ships. An air strike even took out a captured Nigerian ZSU-23 quad- barrel anti-aircraft tank. Several aircraft were damaged by anti-aircraft fire during the campaign but Nigerian sources state that none were shot down. ECOMOG’s efforts culminated in an election in 1997 — which Charles Taylor overwhelmingly won. Six years later, another rebel army brought Taylor’s government to its knees. A second African peacekeeping force finally succeeded in installing a democratic government, which has kept the peace to this day under the first female head of state in Africa, Ellen Sirleaf Johnson. In 1992, the civil war in Liberia spilled over into neighboring Sierra Leone when one of Taylor’s commanders, Foday Sankoh — a.k.a. “General Moskito” — led a force of 3,000 fighters called the Revolutionary United Front to invade weakly- governed Sierra Leone. The Sierra Leone army rapidly lost control of the country — and its soldiers began to act almost as brutally towards the civilian population as the rebels did. Sierra Leone soon resembled the wasteland of Mad Max, minus the protagonists. Charismatic and monstrous warlords with names such as General Warboss III and Betty Cut Hands led bands of drug-addled child soldiers in a rampage of looting, murder, rape, cannibalism and mutilation with little apparent ideological motivation. They did make sure to capture profitable diamond and uranium mines. ECOMOG was sent to intervene in the conflict in 1994 — and like in Liberia, it would achieve temporary military successes, and then utterly fail to “win the peace” leading to a resumption of war. In 1995, two NAF Alpha Jets detached to support the ECOMOG task force. They soon paired with a small South African mercenary contingent —  Executive Outcomes — which led a counteroffensive to recapture the uranium mines. The Alpha Jets, along with mercenary Hind helicopter gunships, pounded RUF positions with bombs and rockets until they began to flee — into the teeth of ground-based ambush parties of tribal Kamajor fighters. The offensive succeeded in driving the RUF from the country and led to the Abidjan peace accords in 1996. Unfortunately, coups and corruption from within led to the resumption of fighting. In 1997, the NAF is accused of having dropped cluster bombs in Kenema and the capital of Freetown. In 1999 the RUF — now a group called “the West Side Boys” — had overrun Freetown in what was dubbed “Operation No Living Thing.” More than 6,000 were killed and much of the city burned down while rebel troops perepetrated mass amputations of civilians. 3,000 Nigerian troops supported by two rocket-firing Alpha Jets led a bloody counterassault that succeeded in driving the rebels out of the capital — at heavy cost. During the campaign, 10 aircraft sustained heavy damage from anti- aircraft fire. Three Alpha jets were lost, though all the crew survived. The cause of the losses are unspecified, though at least one is believed to have been shot down. Peace would not be secured for another two years until the intervention of Indian, British and Russian troops.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by sheyiofficial(m): 11:08pm On Jul 29, 2016
Air power against Boko Haram The Nigerian Alpha Jets wouldn’t see action again for more than a decade. Many of them fell into poor condition for lack of maintenance. Unfortunately the winds of war were blowing closer to home for the Nigerian air force. In 2009, an Islamic fundamentalist insurgency called Boko Haram — which means “Western education is forbidden” — emerged in North Eastern Nigeria in the states of Borno, Adamawa and Yobe. Nigeria is marked by stark religious divisions between the Islamic north and Christian south. Boko Haram wishes to institute Islamic law across the entire country and bring an end to Western influence on society. Fueled by government corruption and brutal military reprisals that resulted in hundreds of innocent citizens being tortured and killed by government troops, the insurgency escalated its violent attacks year after year, employing terrorist bombings, guerrilla warfare and large-scale raids on villages and military bases, culminating in the infamous 2014 Chibok raid in which 276 schoolgirls were kidnapped to serve as “wives” for Boko Haram fighters. The terror group also has made attacks in Cameroon, Chad and Niger, and has recently proclaimed a switch in allegiances from Al Qaeda to ISIS. In 2013, the Nigerian air force began to take measures to refurbish 13 of its Alpha Jets. Two were sent to Niamey, Mali to support a multi-national peacekeeping force there — but one crashed fatally in an accident that May. As Boko Haram seized control of more villages, Pres. Goodluck Johnson declared a state of emergency in the North Eastern state. Alpha Jets based in Yola and Maiduguri soon were flying combat mission in their own country. Deep in Boko Haram territory, Maiduguri itself came under assault in March 2014, and the A-Jets bombed targets right next to their base. As Boko Haram continued its offensive, Nigerian troops were forced to withdraw from the town of Bama on Sept. 1, 2014. Alpha Jets again flew into battle to recapture the town. On Sept. 14, 2014, a lone Alpha Jet flying out of Yola was shot down and one of its pilots captured. Boko Haram filmed their infamous leader Shekau  — frequently reported dead —  mounted on a machine gun-armed truck, then showed pieces of wreckage. A surviving pilot spoke briefly to the camera, before a man cut off his head with an axe . The Nigerian air force at first denied the pilot’s identity, but he was later confirmed to be Wing Commander Chimda Hedima. The Alpha Jet’s arsenal also may have contributed to rebel attacks. ‘Bomblets’ stolen from Nigerian stockpiles of Beluga cluster bombers may have been given to young girls for them to serve as suicide bombers. Nigeria has signed the convention agreeing not to employ cluster munitions, but has not yet disposed of its stockpile. The Nigerian army has claimed that the jets have hit friendly ground troops — possibly because of bad maps. Alpha Jets of the Cameroonian Air Force joined the fray in December 2014 with air strikes against Boko Haram militants that had overrun the Cameroonian military base in Assighasia. The attacks reportedly killed 41 insurgents and compelled the rest to flee. Cameroon still operates 11 ground-attack Alpha Jets out of an original 27 purchased. In March 2015, Nigeria elected a new president, Muhammadu Buhari, who set in motion a new military campaign against Boko Haram, forcing the insurgents back into sanctuaries in Sambisa Forest Reserve. In March 2016, a multi-national African force moved in to clear out the woods in Operation Crackdown, supported by extensive air strikes by Alpha Jets. Another Alpha Jet crashed while landing that same month. Both crew survived, but it is not clear if the aircraft is recoverable. Tragically, air strikes targeting Boko Haram were also liable to hit hostages and abductees. One 15-year old girl recounted being kept as a prisoner in a school repurposed as a base by Boko Haram in Sambisa forest. “They hurriedly chased us out with canes as military jets flew overhead,” the girl said. “Bombs just started dropping from the sky, and the school buildings caught fire. Many of us, including my three year-old sister, were badly injured. She died within a few hours.” Operation Crackdown succeeded in driving Boko Haram from Sambisa Forest, and a new campaign called Operation Gama Aiki — “See it Through” in the Hausa language common in northern Nigeria — sought to push the fighters northward against the shores of Lake Chad. Three Alpha Jets and three F-7 fighters have been assigned to provide ground support for the ongoing operation, leading to the attack described at the beginning of this article. Meanwhile, the United States approved the transfer of four unarmed Alpha Jets to the Nigerian air force in 2015, and a fifth may have been received this June. The Nigerian air force set about jerry-rigging onto two of the jet trainers its own weapons hardpoints capable of holding bombs or rocket pods. Reportedly, the modifications cost just four million Nigerian naira — roughly $13,000. Some reports state a sum as low as $2,000. Given typical military equipment costs, this stands as a remarkable achievement. Foreign companies had requested up to $30,000 just to assess the cost of doing the refit. A Nigerian car manufacturer, Innoson, has also been contracted to produce spare parts for the NAF to keep the old aircraft flying. Nigeria has requested approval to buy new A-29 Tucano counter-insurgency propeller planes to replace its aging Alpha Jet fleet. However, a U.S. law known as the Leahy Amendment prohibits the transfer of military equipment to military units responsible for human-rights violations. Backers of the Leahy Amendment have opposed the sale on the grounds that the Nigerian military has done too little reform its human-rights practices. Boko Haram has displaced more than a million people and killed at least 10,000 others. The Nigerian government has declared that Boko Haram is “technically defeated.” Most experts are skeptical. Undeniably, substantial military progress has been made by Nigerian and its allied African troops. If that military progress doesn’t lead to real political and economic reforms, however, northeastern Nigeria risks succumbing to long-lasting conflict just like Liberia and Sierra Leone did under ECOMOG. The Alpha Jet has proven to be a cost- efficient weapon when employed in counter-insurgency warfare, if not always a discriminate one.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 4:12am On Jul 30, 2016
An unsuccessful VBIED attack, bomb failed to detonate I guess

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by celeron40(m): 6:44am On Jul 30, 2016
bidexiii:
An unsuccessful VBIED attack, bomb failed to detonate I guess
Why was it even allowed to get that close?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by sheyiofficial(m): 7:13am On Jul 30, 2016
Chibok girls: Soldier narrates how Sera Luka was rescued By John Owen Nwachukwu on July 29, 2016 A Nigerian soldier fighting Boko Haram terrorists, Femi Adeolu has recounted what happened on the day Sera Luka, said to be be among the over 200 girls kidnapped from a school in Chibok by the extremist sect, was rescued. According to him, Luka was rescued in May 2016 along with 79 women and children held hostage by the terrorists. In a post shared on his Instagram wall, (femi_Adeolu), Adeolu stated that about 35 Boko Haram fighters were killed in the clash. He however regretted that he lost a soldier, who he described as a friend and brother, during the firefight.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by persius555(m): 7:19am On Jul 30, 2016
BlackBaron:

Local sponsors and sympathisers aplenty, significant foreign support has not yet been proven. After BH got repressed the first time, they went on to regroup while simultaneously staging raids on local police stations. That's where they got their start ups and their weapons look very similar to what we use. As for efforts to liase with foreign groups within the sub continent and afar, they made contacts with similar groups like in Mali and similarly made entreaties to Bin Laden, one of which they found letter from BH at Abbotabad.

Knowledge of ieds probably came from passing down of knowledge plus downloads off the internet as it was well known they frequented jihadi forums. Nothing is advanced about satellite, all it'll take is for a local skilled in telecoms or smuggle a guy in from abroad.
As for Turkey, meh, Erdogan and his ex allies have scores to settle. Let them provide proof of their wild conjectures.
So are we to conclude that BH was 99% Nigerian with very little foreign input. If it is, then our ability as a nation to secure and protect our sovereignity needs to be worked on.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by persius555(m): 7:35am On Jul 30, 2016
celeron40:
Why was it even allowed to get that close?
The attack probably happened in the dead of the night.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 11:54am On Jul 30, 2016
JF-17
When this babies land here NAF mustn't dull us o...Make pix flood everywhere

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 2:14pm On Jul 30, 2016
Odunayaw:
JF-17
When this babies land here NAF mustn't dull us o...Make pix flood everywhere

I trust the COAS, His always on top of the game when it comes to media propaganda of all its operations and achievement.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 2:20pm On Jul 30, 2016
#PARATROOPERS.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 2:22pm On Jul 30, 2016
celeron40:
Why was it even allowed to get that close?

Even it's at night am still wondering how it got that close.

That's what I call a close shave with the death.... shocked
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 3:21pm On Jul 30, 2016
nemesis2u:




if somebody can visit the rehabilitation centers for BH and interview the oldest ones , then he / she will/may find the truth.

"It is no rocket science that a third world country would have poor intelligence"
it is not poor intelligence, it is inaction , political shenanigans hampers intelligence agencies , rest u have to figure.

Bidexiii, please, at the risk of posting off-topic, i really want to correct this impression (third world country) about Nigeria in his post.



Nemesis2u, Nigeria is by no means a 3rd world country, we do have multiple challenges but we are not a 3rd world Nation. Our GDP is over $540 billion, the largest in Africa and the 23rd largest in the world. We are classified as a middle-income economy.


Perhaps you've never been to Nigeria, here are some images of the country.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Asuokaa: 3:50pm On Jul 30, 2016
Henry240:


Bidexiii, please, at the risk of posting off-topic, i really want to correct this impression (third world country) about Nigeria in his post.



Nemesis2u, Nigeria is by no means a 3rd world country, we do have multiple challenges but we are not a 3rd world Nation. Our GDP is over $540 billion, the largest in Africa and the 23rd largest in the world. We are classified as a middle-income economy.


Perhaps you've never been to Nigeria, here are some images of the country.

Oga u fall my hand, we dat knw our country, knws our country... I blame our leaders and some nigerians dat rubbish the country in mud... I even wonder why nigerians collects aids and grants..

This is a country someone will say ders no money and a latest ride dat cost almost $150,000 will pass your side and you will wonder what happen...

I bliv 2018 is a reality just watch
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by TrueHeart365(m): 4:31pm On Jul 30, 2016
Henry240:


Bidexiii, please, at the risk of posting off-topic, i really want to correct this impression (third world country) about Nigeria in his post.



Nemesis2u, Nigeria is by no means a 3rd world country, we do have multiple challenges but we are not a 3rd world Nation. Our GDP is over $540 billion, the largest in Africa and the 23rd largest in the world. We are classified as a middle-income economy.


Perhaps you've never been to Nigeria, here are some images of the country.

no offence man. but Nigeria is a full blooded 3rd world country.

we are not close to being a developed nation and those cities you posted lack infrastructures to qualify for a developed city.

even south africa that is more developed is still seen as 3rd world. make we face reality and hold our polithiefians responsible for where we are today cos we suppose don pass this level.

i know my post will annoy some peeps but i'm not in support of blind patriotism when it comes to being realistic.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 4:47pm On Jul 30, 2016
TrueHeart365:


no offence man. but Nigeria is a full blooded 3rd world country.

we are not close to being a developed nation and those cities you posted lack infrastructures to qualify for a developed city.

even south africa that is more developed is still seen as 3rd world. make we face reality and hold our polithiefians responsible for where we are today cos we suppose don pass this level.

i know my post will annoy some peeps but i'm not in support of blind patriotism when it comes to being realistic.


I don't make comments based on sentiments either. They are factual and are based on Reliable, Analytical, Sound data.


http://data.worldbank.org/country/nigeria

data.worldbank.org/country/nigeria



According to the World Bank, Nigeria is a middle-income economy to this a fact, your post is based on sentiment not fact.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by TrueHeart365(m): 5:21pm On Jul 30, 2016
Henry240:



I don't make comments based on sentiments either. They are factual and are based on Reliable, Analytical, Sound data.


http://data.worldbank.org/country/nigeria

data.worldbank.org/country/nigeria



According to the World Bank, Nigeria is a middle-income economy to this a fact, your post is based on sentiment not fact.

actually you are the one making posts out of sentiment and your link is insignificant to the argument i raised.

having a middle income economy doesn't make you a developed nation. we both know the ouk boom got us there and not a sophisticated or industrialized economy. now that the oil is basically useless we are back to square one.

so, there is no correlation between your link to a developed economy/country

and yes bro.. my assertion is based on facts and i'll just leave it here for you to read yourself yhe meaning of a third world country.

again.. i don't mean to offend anyone. just saying it as it is because denial don't erase the problems.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 5:22pm On Jul 30, 2016
Nigerian Army relocates special forces training school to former Boko Haram stronghold


he Nigerian Army has moved its Special Forces Training School to Buni Yadi, a town once controlled by Boko Haram in Yobe State.
Created at the peak of the Boko Haram insurgency, the Special Forces is considered one Nigerian Army’s most effective fighting unit.
While giving reasons why the training school was moved from Niger State to Buni Yadi, the Chief of Army Staff, Tukur Buratai, said it was because of the strategic location of the town in the fight against the Boko Haram insurgents.
“We know the importance of this place – Buni Yadi. This is the route they (insurgents) passed through to other parts of the North East and even Plateau in the North Central,” he said while addressing troops at the training school on Saturday.
“It is better for us to have dominated and taken over the place,” the Lieutenant General said while assuring the troops of their welfare and logistics need, including required equipment to prosecute the war.
Buni Yadi, the headquarters of Gujba Local Government Area, was controlled by the Boko Haram for several months before it was recaptured by the military in March 2015. It is the town where 59 schoolboys were murdered by the Boko Haram as they slept in their dormitories at a Federal Government College in 2014.
The town is also the headquarters of the 27 Task Force Brigade of the Nigeria Army.
Speaking on Saturday, Mr. Buratai assured that the military will restore full peace to the North East in line with the desire of President Muhammadu Buhari.

He charged the troops to sustain the momentum of ongoing counter insurgency operations to flush out the insurgents.
According to him, “Operation Lafia Dole’ has entered a critical stage. You must sustain the momentum; there is no going back
“There is no time to waste. We want full restoration of peace in the North East. That is what the president wants,” the chief of army staff said.
Mr. Buratai later told journalists that he was in Buni Yadi to see how the troops undergoing the Special Forces training were faring.
He explained that the exercise was to make the personnel resilient and be able to withstand challenges they might face in the course of the ongoing operations.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 5:32pm On Jul 30, 2016
TrueHeart365:


actually you are the one making posts out of sentiment and your link is insignificant to the argument i raised.

having a middle income economy doesn't make you a developed nation. we both know the ouk boom got us there and not a sophisticated or industrialized economy. now that the oil is basically useless we are back to square one.

so, there is no correlation between your link to a developed economy/country





Henry240:



I don't make comments based on sentiments either. They are factual and are based on Reliable, Analytical, Sound data.


http://data.worldbank.org/country/nigeria

data.worldbank.org/country/nigeria



According to the World Bank, Nigeria is a middle-income economy to this a fact, your post is based on sentiment not fact.


You don't even understand what you're responding to, yet you're responding. I'm not going to go back and forth with this.


Thanks for correlating what i've been saying.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by TrueHeart365(m): 6:05pm On Jul 30, 2016
Henry240:








You don't even understand what you're responding to, yet you're responding.
.

Henry240:


Bidexiii, please, at the risk of posting off-topic, i really want to correct this impression (third world country) about Nigeria in his post.



Nemesis2u, Nigeria is by no means a 3rd world country, we do have multiple challenges but we are not a 3rd world Nation.

actually, i do. and i know very well that you do too. unless you've edited your earlier reaponse to @Nemesis2u about Nigeria not being a third world country. of which you did not give good reasons to support your claim.

but let's not derail this fine thread instead. wink
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 6:45pm On Jul 30, 2016
TrueHeart365:




actually, i do. and i know very well that you do too. unless you've edited your earlier reaponse to @Nemesis2u about Nigeria not being a third world country. of which you did not give good reasons to support your claim.

but let's not derail this fine thread instead. wink


Unfortunately you don't seem to understand my post which clearly is in black and white.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 7:07pm On Jul 30, 2016
@Henry240

this is what BlackBaron wrote

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BlackBaron:

To an extent this is not the dynamics of the situation.
Very little evidence of external support to BH has been proven over the years.
You'd have to be Nigerian or have lived to know why it happened.

Northern Nigeria has always been a simmering hotbed of conservative and almost domineering religious views. The Northern Premier after independence made some controversial statements right from the amalgamation. Few years after independence, it spilled into religious crisis which became a common occurrence. We previously also had a Boko Haram 'lite' in Maitatsine and his followers.

It is no rocket science that a third world country would have poor intelligence but to state that BH is as a result of external preachers is far fetched. BH has been very localised to certain regions of the North, The NE and NC. The spread of sunnis goes across the whole north which then does not correlate with the theory else we would have potential cells all over.
A better example are the Shias who even if not a major headache now are shown to have active backing from external sources.

Its why we got to look into getting the right people and instead we get Islamists like a previous Zamfara governor whose body language leaned more into religiousity than a functional secular society. Those are the people oiling the cogs.
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i did not say anything about nigeria being a 3 rd world country ,
i quoted a line from blackbaron post, to clarify about intelligence inaction.


BlackBaron:

To an extent this is not the dynamics of the situation.
Very little evidence of external support to BH has been proven over the years.
You'd have to be Nigerian or have lived to know why it happened.

Northern Nigeria has always been a simmering hotbed of conservative and almost domineering religious views. The Northern Premier after independence made some controversial statements right from the amalgamation. Few years after independence, it spilled into religious crisis which became a common occurrence. We previously also had a Boko Haram 'lite' in Maitatsine and his followers.

It is no rocket science that a third world country would have poor intelligence but to state that BH is as a result of external preachers is far fetched. BH has been very localised to certain regions of the North, The NE and NC. The spread of sunnis goes across the whole north which then does not correlate with the theory else we would have potential cells all over.
A better example are the Shias who even if not a major headache now are shown to have active backing from external sources.

Its why we got to look into getting the right people and instead we get Islamists like a previous Zamfara governor whose body language leaned more into religiousity than a functional secular society. Those are the people oiling the cogs.

and this was my reply to the above post

nemesis2u:


i am not well informed on all the dynamics and also not a final authority on this.
and i hold a well informed nigerian person opinion more credible then mine on matters relating to nigeria.

but i stand by my statement that external preachers / funding had a significant role . i cannot divulge my sources. but there r open sources which also indicates the same. maybe someday the skeletons will come out of the closet .

we know and see what is presented to us in the media, but on 2nd thought , isn't this a aberration , we r thinking what others want us to think .
also lots of people had pieces of the pie that came in from outside , so another reason that attention / information on this is scare in the media because it will / might compromise the same.

if somebody can visit the rehabilitation centers for BH and interview the oldest ones , then he / she will/may find the truth.

"It is no rocket science that a third world country would have poor intelligence"
it is not poor intelligence, it is inaction , political shenanigans hampers intelligence agencies , rest u have to figure.


why the hell did i put it in between commas ?
to indicate that it is a quoted line
i am interested in defence not in stupid classifications and matters on which i have no interest

compare the red color sentences in blackbaron and and the same between commas in my post

if u had gone through , read properly everything u would not have jumped to this conclusion .
and if u knew me by my posts in this forum u would not have made such baseless assumptions about me.

please read twice before jumping to conclusions.

and i think an apology is due because u plastered something on me which i did not even write.
it was total surprise for me

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 7:18pm On Jul 30, 2016
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by BlackBaron: 10:19pm On Jul 30, 2016
I actually made the comment about Nigeria being a 3rd world country.
The lack of some basic amenities, infrastructures and industries points to that. It ranks amongst the top tier of developing countries but still lacks a lot.

Maybe developing would have been a better adjective.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:23pm On Jul 30, 2016
BlackBaron:
I actually made the comment about Nigeria being a 3rd world country.
The lack of some basic amenities, infrastructures and industries points to that. It ranks amongst the top tier of developing countries but still lacks a lot.

Maybe developing would have been a better adjective.

Nemesis2u, it was my error. I saw it in your post, and i felt obliged to correct it.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 11:36pm On Jul 30, 2016
Henry240:


Bidexiii, please, at the risk of posting off-topic, i really want to correct this impression (third world country) about Nigeria in his post.



Nemesis2u, Nigeria is by no means a 3rd world country, we do have multiple challenges but we are not a 3rd world Nation. Our GDP is over $540 billion, the largest in Africa and the 23rd largest in the world. We are classified as a middle-income economy.


Perhaps you've never been to Nigeria, here are some images of the country.

Henry do you visit skyscrapercity ?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Adminisher: 12:03am On Jul 31, 2016
bidexiii:


Even it's at night am still wondering how it got that close.

That's what I call a close shave with the death.... shocked

Almost sure the guys were sleeping inside that MRAP after a hard day's patrol or battle....then rammmm!!!
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 6:07am On Jul 31, 2016
bidexiii:
An unsuccessful VBIED attack, bomb failed to detonate I guess
serious close shave , like someone said it shouldnt have been allowed to get that close . from my experience this kinda attacks takes place between 2 -5 am so its like the men there loosed their guard.
those bastards usually follow this up with swam attacks.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by sheyiofficial(m): 6:22am On Jul 31, 2016
National Defence College set to induct of military officers from Brazil, Turkey, Germany, India in Sept. The National Defence College (NDC) says it will, for the first time in its history, admit foreign participants from Brazil, Turkey, Germany and India, for the college’s next academic programme to be inaugurated on Sept. 15, 2016. The college secretary, Air Vice Marshal Uko Ebong disclosed this on Friday in Abuja while addressing a news conference on the forthcoming graduation of institution’s course 24 participants. According to AVM Ebong, admitting foreign participants from these countries would improve the institution’s strategic partnership with the armed forces countries around the world. He added that the interest shown in the college’s academic programme was a testimony to the excellence that the college had attained over the years. His words, ``The National Defence College provides the highest level of formal military education intended to inculcate a sense of advance military professionalism and involvement in the decision making process. “I am happy to state here that the next course of the NDC will be having participants from Turkey, Germany, India, Brazil and other allied African countries and it is expected to be inaugurated on Sept. 15, 2016. “It is my earnest desire to continue to promote the college as the centre of excellence for developing potential strategic leaders in Africa and globally’.’ Ebong noted that the college would in the nearest future open its doors to participants from the private sector as part of efforts to increase public awareness on the issue of national security. He said the college’s proposal to admit participants from the private sector was also borne out of the need to increase the understanding of civilians on defence and security issues. Ebong said the college had in the past years of its existence made deliberate efforts to improve on the content and quality of its programmes which had attracted interests within and outside Africa. He said alumni of the college had distinguished themselves in different positions of responsibility given them both at strategic and command levels. The secretary of the college said some aspects of the institution’s curriculum had been reviewed while infrastructure and other facilities at the college had been upgraded in line with its growing status. On the course 24 graduation, Ebong said 130 participants comprising officers from the Armed Forces, Nigeria Police, Nigeria Security and Civil Defence Corps and the Department of State Service participated in the course. According to him, other participants of the course 24 include officers from the Federal Road Safety Corps, Nigerian Immigration Service, Ministry of Defence and allied countries of Ghana, Sierra-Leone, Benin and Zambia. Ebong said the overall performance of participants was adjudged above average while their general conduct was satisfactory. He said the highpoint of the graduation ceremony was the presentation of certificates to participants by President Muhammadu Buhari on August 5. Ebong added that the Emir of Kano, Sanusi Lamido would deliver the graduation lecture on August 3 on the theme `Deregulation of the downstream oil sector and Nigeria’s economic development: an appraisal’. It will be recalled that the graduating NDC course 24 was inaugurated in September 2015.

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