Such a pity! Even if he gets back to Spain which i believe would be difficult, he wouldn't be able to renew his residence permit. From his story, he was deported last year and its a maximum of 3 months from the expiry of your residence permit to apply for renewal. If its not renewed after 3 months, you lose it. So that is history.

He should have just waited to file for his citizenship, now see where this has led him. I feel so sorry for him.

olagold79:
From my little understanding, having resided in Europe for a while. I think 2 things might be wrong.Firstly, U cannot enter Switzerland just becausru have a EU resident permit. The country is not in the EU and not Schengen state. U cant even enter the UK (even before brexit) without a visa deapite been a memeber of the EU.How can you live in Europe for 13years n not know this.
Secondly, how can you reside in spain ,work n pay taxes in spain and then "solicit" for benfits in Switszerland.If he's telling the truth thwn he dug his own grave. It goes to say that even hia first entry was illegal n instaed of staying quitee he went ahead to lobby for benefits.Anyone who knosws anything about Europe knows u don't travwl close to expiry of ur permit

Appalling display of ignorance @ the bolded

Iefosa:
I'm not here to play hate, blame games. Just here to advise my brethren overseas.

Please oh, while you're there, save a lot of cash in your Nigerian account, as in plenty money in the account, invest back home, build house, buy car, just do something for house, Europe nor be we home, one day dem must see one thing wey you do then just send you back.

The Spaniards connived with the Swiss and sent this guy home, why? Because if they decide to do so themselves he might have an edge and come back, this way he is totally KOed if there is any word like that

I will advice anybody I know to do the opposite because investment in Nigeria is not secured and will only expose your loved ones to kidnappers.


The problem with some Nigerians like you is that you love playing the race card and refused to call a spade a spade.

You live and work in Spain but want to claim benefits in Switzerland? Who's money? Did he work and pay into Swiss system?

Some Nigerians enjoy abusing any system given the opportunity.

olagold79:
From my little understanding, having resided in Europe for a while. I think 2 things might be wrong.Firstly, U cannot enter Switzerland just becausru have a EU resident permit. The country is not in the EU and not Schengen state. U cant even enter the UK (even before brexit) without a visa deapite been a memeber of the EU.How can you live in Europe for 13years n not know this.
Secondly, how can you reside in spain ,work n pay taxes in spain and then "solicit" for benfits in Switszerland.If he's telling the truth thwn he dug his own grave. It goes to say that even hia first entry was illegal n instaed of staying quitee he went ahead to lobby for benefits.Anyone who knosws anything about Europe knows u don't travwl close to expiry of ur permit

Dude Switzerland is a member of Schengen state and a Spanish PR holder can enter the UK without a visa

bigtt76:
[b]You can only be deported back to the country whose passport you carry. He doesn't have a Spanish Passport so couldn't have been deported back there. [/b]The Swiss took time to verify his Spanish residency permit scheduled to expire and by the time they got a response, it was already expired.

Appalling ignoramus @ de bolded. Buh he has a still valid residence visa for Spain and was coming from Spain. That means he was still admissible in Spain

justwise:


and a Spanish PR holder can enter the UK without a visa

Not true. As a Spanish PR holder, u need a visa to enter the UK. It's if you hold a Spanish passport, that you don't need a visa.

All he needs is a good lawyer, he needs to have evidence of being denied entry into Spain as that's where his permanent residency lies, he can use that to make an appeal. His case will be heard and all evidence presented. The judge will advice the Spanish embassy with a decision in a heartbeat.

Getting a good lawyer for such will cost him at least €5000 in this current buhari govt.

bee444:


@Ateri, let me at least address your misconception. You see, the guy never misunderstood his status. He travelled to Swiss and applied for benefit whilst still working in Spain. He knew he won't get benefit in Spain 'cause he was still working. He needed extra cash and called his friend in Switzerland who advised him to come over and claim benefit. And because of greed and ignorance (not doing his research), he travelled and applied.

Now, after submitting his claim, he went back to Spain. Five months after applying, the result came in, he was denied. And needing to know the reasons behind the rejection, and devising other reasons to apply and appeal his rejection, he travelled again to Switzerland. This time, he was stopped by an immigration officer who digged in into his travel history and hit the jackpot. Officer found out he already applied for benefit whilst holding a resident permit of Spain. He was interviewed, admitted he applied for benefit and was detained. Passport and resident permit was seized and confiscated. Swiss govt approached their Spanish counterpart, and an agreement was made to deport him.

Now, was I there? No, but experience and speculation of events always narrate itself.

He regretted making that decision. In his interview with the press, he time without number mentioned how he would have been a citizen of Spain had he not gone to Switzerland to claim benefit.

Now, does racism played its part in getting him deported? Absolutely. But then, was he the architect of his own misfortune? Absolutely. A white man would have been banned from Switzerland for certain years for committing fraud, but still get handed his passport and resident permit.

"He that comes to equity must come with a clean hand". Let's strive to be honest, at least for once.

Thank you

Your fantasy narrative is nonsensical. It's clear that your fantasy narrative emanates from a pedestal of ignorance on the modus operandi of welfare benefits in Europe. You seemed to agree with the fellows story that it is possible, as a legal non-EU resident of any EEA and Switzerland to go to any other EEA country and Switzerland to claim benefit. It baffles me how some supposedly exposed people will believe such bareface lie. It annoys me that a guy who claim to have lived in Europe for 16years will lie that he went to Switzerland to claim benefit. On what basis.? Does he has a Swiss social security /insurance number?

How on earth will you conceive the idea that the swiss won't detect immediately that he is not a legal resident of Switzerland or EU national therefore not qualify to access welfare benefits. How can you , jeez, oh my gush conceive the lie that it will take 5months for the swiss authority to reach a decision that a deserving or otherwise person should be paid welfare benefits or not. (na hunger and want go don already kill that destitute person before the 6months)..

Permanent residence of an Eu country are not even allowed to work in another EU country not to talk of claiming any kind of benefits whatsoever. Are the swiss foolish that someone(non - eu) working and paying taxes in Spain thereby contributing to public finances of Spain will just hop into Switzerland and extract benefits. Una ignorance dey pain me seriously.

Even eu citizen's right to claim unemployment benefits in other EEA and Switzerland is not absolute. You first have to come, register as an intending resident, obtain social security number before you can claim job seeker benefit..

There are so many areas in the man's story that I find laughable and not factual. I say unequivocally that if truly he is a permanent resident of Spain, there's no way Swiss authority will seize his resident permit and deport him to Nigeria. Except he committed a grave crime (not immigration offense) in Switzerland.

ANY ONE THAT BELIEVES THIS MAN'S STORY BASE ON WHAT HE/SHE JUST READ HERE IS IGNORANT. THE MAN'S LIES AND DECEIT TO GARNER SYMPATHY IS GLARING. HE HIS HIDING THE MAIN REASON HE WAS SHIPPED NIGERIA.

“In 2014, I lost my job and went to Switzerland to solicit for social benefits, which is not a crime. After five months of application, they denied me, saying that I could only apply for that in Spain where I came from. I didn’t argue with them. I left the country. I didn’t fight with anyone and I have never been a terrorist suspect".


[b]Question: who spends five months waiting for social benefits in a country where they are not legal residents? Brother, we all know that generally after 90 days you become an illegal. This is the problem: how could you live in Spain and expect to receive social benefits in Switzerland? Its like saying that since you live in Nigeria, and your country is a member of the African Union, you could claim social benefits in Libya or Algeria. Keep in mind that this guy is a legal resident, not even a citizen of Spain; then again, he seemed to have believed that the Schengen Accord covers Switzerland. Oh well now he knows what knowledgeable people know already: Switzerland is not a "Schengen Country" and even then..These things happen because people are not informed or they are outright liars Another common mistake people make is claiming non-respect of human rights or some fictive persecution in their country of origin. They go to another country from where they travel to Europe, US, or Canada to seek political asylum. They are denied and they hire a lawyer. The lawyer knows its a case you can NEVER win but eh, he needs your money. This is because if truly your life is in danger, the first country you arrive in should be the first country you ask for protection. In international law, a refugee does not have the luxury of choice regarding what country to go.. In the particular case of our friend here, he had been an illegal in Switzerland for at least two months in the past.[/b]

NovusHomo:
“In 2014, I lost my job and went to Switzerland to solicit for social benefits, which is not a crime. After five months of application, they denied me, saying that I could only apply for that in Spain where I came from. I didn’t argue with them. I left the country. I didn’t fight with anyone and I have never been a terrorist suspect".


[b]Question: who spends five months waiting for social benefits in a country where they are not legal residents? Brother, we all know that generally after 90 days you become an illegal. This is the problem: how could you live in Spain and expect to receive social benefits in Switzerland? Its like saying that since you live in Nigeria, and your country is a member of the African Union, you could claim social benefits in Libya or Algeria. Keep in mind that this guy is a legal resident, not even a citizen of Spain; then again, he seemed to have believed that the Schengen Accord covers Switzerland. Oh well now he knows what knowledgeable people know already: SWITZERLAND IS NOT A "SCHENGEN COUNTRY "and even then..These things happen because people are not informed. Another common mistake people make is claiming non-respect of human rights or some fictive persecution in their country of origin. They go to another country from where they travel to Europe, US, or Canada to seek political asylum. They are denied and they hire a lawyer. The lawyer knows its a case you can NEVER win but eh, he needs your money. This is because if truly your life is in danger, the first country you arrive in should be the first country you ask for protection. In international law, a refugee does not have the luxury of choice regarding what country to go.. In the particular case of our friend here, he had been an illegal in Switzerland for at least two months in the past.[/b]

Get your facts right before posting.. Switzerland is a member of schengen passport free zone.

Bandeco:

Get your facts right before posting.. Switzerland is a member of schengen passport free zone.

For travel, not for social benefits. But even then, our friend is a friggin' liar.

NovusHomo:


For travel, not for social benefits. But even then, our friend is a friggin' liar.

My brother abeg I no understand you oo... I tried to correct you that Switzerland is a schengen country, u say "for travel, not for social benefits"... Hmmmm na u Sabi wetin u mean by that one o...
To the best of my knowledge no country is a member of schengen" for social benefits".. Nothing like schengen country for social benefits

Whether you like use insultive words, I still stand by it that you can only be deported to your country of origin for which you have a valid passport!

Bandeco:

Appalling ignoramus @ de bolded. Buh he has a still valid residence visa for Spain and was coming from Spain. That means he was still admissible in Spain

Bandeco:

My brother abeg I no understand you oo... I tried to correct you that Switzerland is a schengen country, u say "for travel, not for social benefits"... Hmmmm na u Sabi wetin u mean by that one o...
To the best of my knowledge no country is a member of schengen" for social benefits".. Nothing like schengen country for social benefits

Exactly my point. Our friend said he went to Switzerland to claim social benefits, right? Goodnight.

How can you be a permanent resident of a country and not hold their passport?

sleek0509:


Not true. As a Spanish PR holder, u need a visa to enter the UK. It's if you hold a Spanish passport, that you don't need a visa.

lurdkriss:
I nearly slaped one oyibo man on my steet,d fool parked on d road and felt. Like no one couldtouch him,after I jacked his shirt and nearly brought himdown,he started telling me how he has lived in lagos for so many yrs,as if dat one concern me,the olosho he came to see had to advice him to leave the road,I don't have anyh issues with theem o,so long dey behave well...things u can't do over ther in their country,they come here and do it without fear,cus dey know our foolish police men will always be there to side them...rubish...
I blame our government sha,if everything Dey ok For naija watin dis youngman wan go find for switzerlannd or spain..


GOD BLESS NIGERIA

That's how I feel about them. Here in the States, I don't talk to them (so-called white lepers) unless it is absolutely necessary. Yeah, it is the plight of the so-called black man on this rock we call, earth. Any way I can fight back, I do.

Bandeco:

Your fantasy narrative is nonsensical. It's clear that your fantasy narrative emanates from a pedestal of ignorance on the modus operandi of welfare benefits in Europe. You seemed to agree with the fellows story that it is possible, as a legal non-EU resident of any EEA and Switzerland to go to any other EEA country and Switzerland to claim benefit. It baffles me how some supposedly exposed people will believe such bareface lie. It annoys me that a guy who claim to have lived in Europe for 16years will lie that he went to Switzerland to claim benefit. On what basis.? Does he has a Swiss social security /insurance number?

How on earth will you conceive the idea that the swiss won't detect immediately that he is not a legal resident of Switzerland or EU national therefore not qualify to access welfare benefits. How can you , jeez, oh my gush conceive the lie that it will take 5months for the swiss authority to reach a decision that a deserving or otherwise person should be paid welfare benefits or not. (na hunger and want go don already kill that destitute person before the 6months)..

Permanent residence of an Eu country are not even allowed to work in another EU country not to talk of claiming any kind of benefits whatsoever. Are the swiss foolish that someone(non - eu) working and paying taxes in Spain thereby contributing to public finances of Spain will just hop into Switzerland and extract benefits. Una ignorance dey pain me seriously.

Even eu citizen's right to claim unemployment benefits in other EEA and Switzerland is not absolute. You first have to come, register as an intending resident, obtain social security number before you can claim job seeker benefit..

There are so many areas in the man's story that I find laughable and not factual. I say unequivocally that if truly he is a permanent resident of Spain, there's no way Swiss authority will seize his resident permit and deport him to Nigeria. Except he committed a grave crime (not immigration offense) in Switzerland.

ANY ONE THAT BELIEVES THIS MAN'S STORY BASE ON WHAT HE/SHE JUST READ HERE IS IGNORANT. THE MAN'S LIES AND DECEIT TO GARNER SYMPATHY IS GLARING. HE HIS HIDING THE MAIN REASON HE WAS SHIPPED NIGERIA.

My friend, as you know, Switzerland is not a member of the 28 member Union. But in 2002, Switzerland signed an agreement with Brussels providing for free movement between the bloc and the Alpine nation. This allows Spanish citizens a free ride in Swiss nation. This means citizens of Spain can go to Switzerland to work, settle and claim certain benefits.

Now, back to our friend. You should note that I wrote that this guy was badly misinformed. They thought that PR holders were also eligible or included in the agreement signed, hence, the benefit he claimed.

There was no way he went to Switzerland other than the reasons he gave. He has no work permit, nor a student visa which would have enabled him to settle down there.

sleek0509:


Not true. As a Spanish PR holder, u need a visa to enter the UK. It's if you hold a Spanish passport, that you don't need a visa.

Technically you are right but what I failed to mention there is that...Spanish PR holder traveling with his/her partner who is an EU citizen will be allowed into the UK.

Bandeco:

Appalling display of ignorance @ the bolded

Bandeco:

Appalling display of ignorance @ de bolded. Buh he has a still valid residence visa for Spain and was coming from Spain. That means he was still admissible in Spain

Bandeco:

Appalling display of ignorance @ the bolded

Please there is no need for that

nightmile:
Bloody Criminal !

from the story, please give me your reasons

justwise:


Technically you are right but what I failed to mention there is that...Spanish PR holder traveling with his/her partner who is an EU citizen will be allowed into the UK.

true he will be allowed to enter the uk, but he is not legally married.

bigtt76:
Whether you like use insultive words, I still stand by it that you can only be deported to your country of origin for which you have a valid passport!

tthey waited nd detain him until his visa expired

justwise:


Dude Switzerland is a member of Schengen state and a Spanish PR holder can enter the UK without a visa

The European Economic Area (EEA)
The EEA includes EU countries and also Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway. It allows them to be part of the EU’s single market.

Switzerland is [color=#990000]neither an EU nor EEA member [/color]but is part of the single market - this means Swiss nationals have the same rights to live and work in the UK as other EEA nationals.

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

importantly, with temporary stay permit never travel to 3rd country, never, never.

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

ezan:


That's how I feel about them. Here in the States, I don't talk to [b]them (so-called white lepers) [/b]unless it is absolutely necessary. Yeah, it is the plight of the so-called black man on this rock we call, earth. Any way I can fight back, I do.

From your first-hand experience with them, how can you convince Nigerians in Nigeria to stop worshipping them as second to Gods ?

nry1:


true he will be allowed to enter the uk, but he is not legally married.

You lost me there please can you explain?

nry1:


The European Economic Area (EEA)
The EEA includes EU countries and also Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway. It allows them to be part of the EU’s single market.

Switzerland is [color=#990000]neither an EU nor EEA member [/color]but is part of the single market - this means Swiss nationals have the same rights to live and work in the UK as other EEA nationals.

I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing

jantavanta:


From your first-hand experience with them, how can you convince Nigerians in Nigeria to stop worshipping them as second to Gods ?

Remain in Nigeria and deal with your self esteem problem.

nry1:


tthey waited nd detain him until his visa expired

Yes let's the blame game start! It's not his fault for trying to claim benefits even when he is not bloody entitled for one