jelal007:
I like folks like u who claim 2 read vastly and are quick 2 use insult people. D other guy have being arguing without insults b4 u barged in on our argument. 1st and foremost, 'Mr Read vastly',where in the world have u seen a document written by someone with only one name? A: Nowhere. Every other prophet of God mentioned in the Torah,the bible and Quran...their full names were clearly stated. My argument is,if these folks are genuine anointed men of God,what happened 2 their last names? I didn't ask u 4 where they came 4rm,I asked 4 their names Mr. If u claim 2 knowledgeable,u'll give me the names of these folks I seek. And dude,don't use abusive words here,ok?

Sorry if you found my use of the word "lack" in knowledge on matters of history insulting, it wasn't intended and isn't actually an insult. I am confident to say I lack in knowledge on matters concerning flying a plane, and that is not an insult to me.

Now, the books where the surname of the author isn't given seems like you number one matter of interest. Lets focus on how trying to prove the genealogy of people can hurt.

In the Quaran , Maryam/Mariam/Mary is said to be the daughter of Imran and sister of Aaron. These names are from the Torah with Mariam being the daughter of Imran whose brothers are Aaron and Moses.

The bible scribes will not try to give names to people when they don't have that information unlike the Quaran.

bayslw007:
please,i really just wish to know muhammed's full name??

Muhammad Ibn Abdullah. There u go. I didn't insult u now oo,despite ur claims of having read vastly.

kabrud:
These christians are always out looking for problem with the muslims. May be that one thinks he is on nairaland. For God's sake, what is the meaning of this rubbish? U will see them insulting muslims everywhere for no reason only to turn around and start forming the victim. After creating the storm, they will be asking why the rain. Has any muslim ever insulted Jesus Christ? This thing is getting too much. And they know very well that a muslim will never take that from u except if u hide behind the laptop to do that. We shall see the end of this problem they looking for upandan.

the quran says do not defame eachother or find faults in eachother. If u see someone doing wrong u privately advice them. And that's the Islam i follow i dnt know abt u.

jelal007:
Muhammad Ibn Abdullah. There u go. I didn't insult u now oo,despite ur claims of having read vastly.

chill man...i wasn't the read vastly mistar..Just wanted to know

dueal:


Sorry if you found my use of the word "lack" in knowledge on matters of history insulting, it wasn't intended and isn't actually an insult. I am confident to say I lack in knowledge on matters concerning flying a plane, and that is not an insult to me.

Now, the books where the surname of the author isn't given seems like you number one matter of interest. Lets focus on how trying to prove the genealogy of people can hurt.

In the Quaran , Maryam/Mariam/Mary is said to be the daughter of Imran and sister of Aaron. These names are from the Torah with Mariam being the daughter of Imran whose brothers are Aaron and Moses.

The bible scribes will not try to give names to people when they don't have that information unlike the Quaran.

Hahahahaha,my bro this argument isn't about hurting one another its about smtin else. And u're completely missing the point. I asked 4 proof in the bible where christ (in his own words) called himself God. U haven't done that and yet u're busy trying 2 make dis look like quarrel. Abegy.

bayslw007:
chill man...i wasn't the read vastly mistar..Just wanted to know

Sorry bro,I just discovered my mistake.

jelal007:
Hahahahaha,my bro this argument isn't about hurting one another its about smtin else. And u're completely missing the point. I asked 4 proof in the bible where christ (in his own words) called himself God. U haven't done that and yet u're busy trying 2 make dis look like quarrel. Abegy.

Typical laugh when you catch a Muslim in the corner. I am guessing you weren't the one finding proof where Jesus says he is God which I gave proof...

Joh 5:25 "Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. Joh 5:26 "For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself,

Has Mohammed ever called himself the Son or even a Son of God?

If this doesn't show you another place where Jesus speaks of his divinity then you are just another typical Muslim who can read but will shout that it is not there.

jelal007:
Sorry bro,I just discovered my mistake.

Its alright man..

chillbabe:
the quran says do not defame eachother or find faults in eachother. If u see someone doing wrong u privately advice them. And that's the Islam i follow i dnt know abt u.

And ur own variety of Islam agrees that The Holy Prophet should be insulted I guess. Swerve!!! abeg... Get urself books on Lexis and Structures in English language and work on ur written English first.

kabrud:
These christians are always out looking for problem with the muslims. May be that one thinks he is on nairaland. For God's sake, what is the meaning of this rubbish? U will see them insulting muslims everywhere for no reason only to turn around and start forming the victim. After creating the storm, they will be asking why the rain. Has any muslim ever insulted Jesus Christ? This thing is getting too much. And they know very well that a muslim will never take that from u except if u hide behind the laptop to do that. We shall see the end of this problem they looking for upandan.

Brother the woman that was killed in Kano did she insult any Muslim? The guy killed during Ramadan fasting because he was eating did he insult any Muslim or their prophet?
And lemme tell u, yes I have heard Muslims insult Jesus Christ her in Oyo and kwara state and the go free.
So why should muslins carry their own for rad like gala?
Biko stop trying to justify their act.

bayslw007:
so because they aren't in support of all ISLAM makes them ''gibberish talker''??..i was once a muslim and i can still say that their doctrine do not please me,now am a christian and i find better peace than when i was a muslim...am not castigating your religious beliefs buh in essence what am trying to put across to you is that whatever rocks a persons ship might sink another person's boat..

yeah well,when sum1 wants to voice out their thoughts on something....they do it in a sensible way that it doesn't provoke the other party,you know?

kabrud:

And ur own variety of Islam agrees that The Holy Prophet should be insulted I guess. Swerve!!! abeg... Get urself books on Lexis and Structures in English language and work on ur written English first.

The Quran doesn't encourage Violence.... Y'all are d types that make em yarn rubbish abouh Islam

sorextee:
I agree with you. There's this naval officer who is a serious bigot. He's the one that leads prayers in the mosque. There was a time he was busy saying trash about Jesus Christ. When he saw me passing, he increased his voice. He continued talking, just to get my attention. I just ignored him. He now made a statement like "he couldn't defend his religion that's why he kept quiet. He knows I'm saying the truth". Was very angry that day. But I kept my cool.

As civilize as Lagos is, go to Alausa Secretariat to see what they always do when it comes to religion. I was passing one day and a cassette is being played asking Christians where is there God when Chibock girls were being kidnapped, instead of having sympathy for their parents.

Islammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Kfed4ril:


Brother the woman that was killed in Kano did she insult any Muslim? The guy killed during Ramadan fasting because he was eating did he insult any Muslim or their prophet?
And lemme tell u, yes I have heard Muslims insult Jesus Christ her in Oyo and kwara state and the go free.
So why should muslins carry their own for rad like gala?
Biko stop trying to justify their act.

Must u lie just to create an impression? Or don't u know that any muslim that insult Jesus Christ is also insulting his own belief? Haven't u heard that Jesus Christ is well glorified in the muslim Holy Book? Infact, a whole chapter in the Holy Qur'an is about Marry, the mother of Jesus Christ. Just go through this thread and point out one comment in which Jesus Christ was insulted despite the facelessness of this forum. I say the muslims don't insult Christ not because I want to defend them but because the muslim doctrines are completely against it. Such act alone automatically makes such muslim a non-muslim. So if u come across any muslim insulting Christ, tell him to his face that he is not a muslim. The muslims on this faceless forum have every opportunity to say anything against Christ the way u christians are doing to the Holy Prophet, but u will never see anything close to that and the reason is just that we fully believe in him but not the way u christians do and as long as we believe in him, u shouldn't expect us to insult our own belief.

Lawlahdey:
yeah well,when sum1 wants to voice out their thoughts on something....they do it in a sensible way that it doesn't provoke the other party,you know?

Yeah,i know but you can't expect somone to act without provokin the other party in this type of heated argument n trade of insults..just wished to lay low n not add mine..its okay

kabrud:
These christians are always out looking for problem with the muslims. May be that one thinks he is on nairaland. For God's sake, what is the meaning of this rubbish? U will see them insulting muslims everywhere for no reason only to turn around and start forming the victim. After creating the storm, they will be asking why the rain. Has any muslim ever insulted Jesus Christ? This thing is getting too much. And they know very well that a muslim will never take that from u except if u hide behind the laptop to do that. We shall see the end of this problem they looking for upandan.

So what happened when Jesus was blasphemed? Did Christians kill anyone for that?

This is the big difference:

Jesus and the Bible taught Love your neighbor. Love your enemy. Do good to those that hate you. Pray for those that exploit you. Turn the other cheek. Leave vengeance to God, etc

But Islam in the past and in modern times remains the only religion that terrorists kill in Allah's name. Mobs who are ordinary citizens and not official terrorists in Islamic countries such as Egypt, Pakistan, Iraq and Northern Nigeria kill innocent Nigerians accused of blasphemy.

We will all die one day. Then each of us will finally know the truth.

Lastly, Jesus epitomizes the spirit of FORGIVENESS. All that have killed others will still be forgiven if they repent of their sins. Why? Jesus came to die for sinners not righteous people! ACCUSED partly for BLASPHEMY and dying on the cross He said, 'Father, forgive them. For they know not what they do'. Same for STEPHEN ACCUSSED of BLASPHEMY by the Jewish religious leaders he said, 'Lord, do not lay this sin against them'.

I weep for Nigeria, my dear country!

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mynd1:
Thunder fire Ur useless mama there. if dem born u well drop ur address n see if u will spend 1 hour on dis earth. useless being.

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am I wrong if I call you a killer? By their fruits you shall know them.

chillbabe:
the quran says do not defame eachother or find faults in eachother. If u see someone doing wrong u privately advice them. And that's the Islam i follow i dnt know abt u.

'Each other' = among you insiders. Not outsiders = inconsequential and expendable infidels.

Isn't it?

omojeesu:


So what happened when Jesus was blasphemed? Did Christians kill anyone for that?

This is the big difference:

Jesus and the Bible taught Love your neighbor. Love your enemy. Do good to those that hate you. Pray for those that exploit you. Turn the other cheek. Leave vengeance to God, etc

But Islam in the past and in modern times remains the only religion that terrorists kill in Allah's name. Mobs who are ordinary citizens and not official terrorists in Islamic countries such as Egypt, Pakistan, Iraq and Northern Nigeria kill innocent Nigerians accused of blasphemy.

We will all die one day. Then each of us will finally know the truth.

Lastly, Jesus epitomizes the spirit of FORGIVENESS. All that have killed others will still be forgiven if they repent of their sins. Why? Jesus came to die for sinners not righteous people! ACCUSED partly for BLASPHEMY and dying on the cross He said, 'Father, forgive them. For they know not what they do'. Same for STEPHEN ACCUSSED of BLASPHEMY by the Jewish religious leaders he said, 'Lord, do not lay this sin against them'.

I weep for Nigeria, my dear country!

I'm sure u know that I have every opportunity to say whatever I wish to say against Jesus Christ on this faceless forum if I dont believe in him. But just go through any of my comments and indeed all comments by other muslims and tell me where he was insulted. The only post in which he was insulted was made by a christian just to create an impression like u (the poster displayed an obscene scene involving a human image u christian identified as Jesus Christ. If u go through the thread, u will see it). The poster just displayed the image without even stating the source but claimed that it was made by a muslim, quite unfortunate. So, if truly the muslims insult Christ, at least some traces of such tendencies would have been exhibited on this forum since it is faceless.

kabrud:

I'm sure u know that I have every opportunity to say whatever I wish to say against Jesus Christ on this faceless forum if I dont believe in him. But just go through any of my comments and indeed all comments by other muslims and tell me where he was insulted. The only post in which he was insulted was made by a christian just to create an impression like u (the poster displayed an obscene scene involving a human image u christian identified as Jesus Christ. If u go through the thread, u will see it). The poster just displayed the image without even stating the source but claimed that it was made by a muslim, quite unfortunate. So, if truly the muslims insult Christ, at least some traces of such tendencies would have been exhibited on this forum since it is faceless.

With us it doesn't matter whether it is a Muslim or Atheist or Hindu or a 'Scientist' or an Artist that blasphemes Jesus. We ignore or express our disapproval in a non-violent manner.

omojeesu:


With us it doesn't matter whether it is a Muslim or Atheist or Hindu or a 'Scientist' or an Artist that blasphemes Jesus. We ignore or express our disapproval in a non-violent manner.

The point is, don't say the muslims insulted Jesus Christ but for other faiths, I don't know. And let me tell u, the reaction of a typical muslim when the Holy Prophet is insulted is the same if Christ is insulted but u can never hear of insult to Christ since that is who u christians believe in. Violent reaction can be avoided by simply avoiding insult to any of them because it is rather suicidal to puplicly make a derogatory comment against a religion with over a billion followers all over the world.

hippyzuki:
in as much as I don't subscribe to the poster insulting you. It is very disrespectful and immature to insult Christians

But it is very respectful and matured to insult Islam abi? Abeg swerve.

Stbottle:




You are a big fool for that statement.....is it because its not reported here on nairaland....it cant even be reported because we only hear of christians too insulting mohammed when violence starts....christians will never be violent hence no need to report

If truely the muslims have the habit of insulting Christ, at least such tendencies would have been exhibited on a faceless forum like this but reverse is the case as we have all seen on this forum; check through the thread and point out where a muslim insulted Christ even though he can do it but compare this with what ur christian folks have been saying about The Holy Prophet on the thread. So it is a very obvious case.

dueal:


Typical laugh when you catch a Muslim in the corner. I am guessing you weren't the one finding proof where Jesus says he is God which I gave proof...

Joh 5:25 "Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. Joh 5:26 "For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself,

Has Mohammed ever called himself the Son or even a Son of God?

If this doesn't show you another place where Jesus speaks of his divinity then you are just another typical Muslim who can read but will shout that it is not there.

U didn't catch me in a corner...n u never will. I'll just stop here becos u're wasting my precious time. Of all the authentic sayings of jesus christ u can't point out 1 single statement of christ where he said he is divine. But I can point several quotes that clearly says he's not divine.1. 'I can of my own self do nothing,but whatever he who sent me orders me 2do that's wat I do. Again, when u look at the Lord's prayer it says. Our father who hath in heaven, hallow be THY name (not our name,if he's part of some trinity),THY kingdom come (not our kingdom come) THY will be done on earth as it is in heaven,give us this day our daily bread (now we both know as human beings we eat and we drink-and after that the body only uses some of it,the rest it evacuates. Imagine God eating and defecating) and 4give us our trespasses,as we 4give those who trespass against us and lead us not in2 temptation,but deliver us 4rm all evil but thou art thy kingdom,thy power and thy glory,4ver and ever...amen. Does that sound like God praying 2 himself? Go do more research about John,Mark,Mathew and Luke. They were notin but historians and writers. And which author uses just one name? Have a good day.

dueal:


Typical laugh when you catch a Muslim in the corner. I am guessing you weren't the one finding proof where Jesus says he is God which I gave proof...

Joh 5:25 "Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. Joh 5:26 "For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself,

Has Mohammed ever called himself the Son or even a Son of God?

If this doesn't show you another place where Jesus speaks of his divinity then you are just another typical Muslim who can read but will shout that it is not there.

Lol,whatever floats ur boat. I'm laughing at ur inability 2 answer my questions. Mohd (pbuh) never claimed divinity and neither did jesus. But I say,show me fact where he claimed divinity u CANNOT. U're here quoting john,Mark,mathew,Mark and luke. Bros,it have do abeg. Good day!!!

jelal007:
Lol,whatever floats ur boat. I'm laughing at ur inability 2 answer my questions. Mohd (pbuh) never claimed divinity and neither did jesus. But I say,show me fact where he claimed divinity u CANNOT. U're here quoting john,Mark,mathew,Mark and luke. Bros,it have do abeg. Good day!!!

Mohammed never made any Prophecy yet he is a Prophet. Jesus claims divinity yet you want evidence not in the Bible but somewhere in your very young Quaran that isn't authentic. Mohammed died, Jesus lives. Face the facts...

jelal007:
U didn't catch me in a corner...n u never will. I'll just stop here becos u're wasting my precious time. Of all the authentic sayings of jesus christ u can't point out 1 single statement of christ where he said he is divine. But I can point several quotes that clearly says he's not divine.1. 'I can of my own self do nothing,but whatever he who sent me orders me 2do that's wat I do. Again, when u look at the Lord's prayer it says. Our father who hath in heaven, hallow be THY name (not our name,if he's part of some trinity),THY kingdom come (not our kingdom come) THY will be done on earth as it is in heaven,give us this day our daily bread (now we both know as human beings we eat and we drink-and after that the body only uses some of it,the rest it evacuates. Imagine God eating and defecating) and 4give us our trespasses,as we 4give those who trespass against us and lead us not in2 temptation,but deliver us 4rm all evil but thou art thy kingdom,thy power and thy glory,4ver and ever...amen. Does that sound like God praying 2 himself? Go do more research about John,Mark,Mathew and Luke. They were notin but historians and writers. And which author uses just one name? Have a good day.

The same confusion your Muslim teachers face. Do you study with Zakir Naik?
Mat 6:8 "Therefore do not be like them. For YOUR Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him.

Mat 6:9 "In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be Your name.

The confusion with the understanding of Christian belief is the word God. GOD IS A TITLE. Other gods, your god, my god, creator God. A TITLE.

JUST LIKE you are a boy, ur brother is a boy, your cousin is a boy. When I say Christ is God it is the nature of his being. Understand that before you think you get Christianity to form an argument.

We do not say that Jesus is the Father and the Father is Jesus. We say, Jesus is the Son and when Jesus says I and my Father are one, it means in agreement. Same as when you say you and your father are one. Grammer.

And if the Son is one with the Father then the Son has to perform the will of the Father. GET A BIBLE THEN YOU CAN TALK what you know. STEP ONE.

kabrud:

Never in ur life should u get into my mention again. I will assume that the first is a mistake but if u try this again, I can assure u that it will not be palatable for u and by the time I'm through with u, if u open a thread and see any moniker that starts with the letter 'k', u will leave the thread, log out, switch off that ur phone, remove the battery and avoid the phone for one week. So don't wake the sleeping dog and save urself the stress of runing to a moderator.

Do you people kill through phone too
Muslims insult Jesus and our God period! You can keep ranting for all I care.

Stay off my mention ke, stay off your mention ko? You could have told me to staff off NL.

Stop playing to the gallery

glossy6:


Do you people kill through phone too
Muslims insult Jesus and our God period! You can keep ranting for all I care.

Stay off my mention ke, stay off your mention ko? You could have told me to staff off NL.

Stop playing to the gallery

Very good. At least I dey my own jeje and u quoted me but even at that I warned u and u think it is a joke. But just make sure u have enough strength to stand me and don't run to any mod.

glossy6:


Do you people kill through phone too
Muslims insult Jesus and our God period! You can keep ranting for all I care.

Stay off my mention ke, stay off your mention ko? You could have told me to staff off NL.

Stop playing to the gallery

First, for the record the muslims dont insult Jesus Christ as belief in him is an article of faith in Islam. If we actually do, it would have been evident at least on this thread if not on the whole forum. Lies and propaganda are most of ur stocks in trade and u have fully exhibited same through most of ur comments especially in the baseless accusations that we insult Christ who, as far as I'm concerned we believe in him more than u do.

glossy6:


Do you people kill through phone too
Muslims insult Jesus and our God period! You can keep ranting for all I care.

Stay off my mention ke, stay off your mention ko? You could have told me to staff off NL.

Stop playing to the gallery

But on the contrary, what we accuse ur folks of is fully justified by the contents of this thread. And ur memory is so short that u cant remember how u reported me to the mod when u couldnt stand me.

glossy6:


Do you people kill through phone too
Muslims insult Jesus and our God period! You can keep ranting for all I care.

Stay off my mention ke, stay off your mention ko? You could have told me to staff off NL.

Stop playing to the gallery

Or have u forgotten so soon that I once cautioned u to stop hiding under the guise of christianity just to justify ur waywardness? Well, if u have forgotten, let me remind u that u once claimed that u served in Kano state. In this ur claim, u described a prostitute joint which was patronised by the hausa muslims.