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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Nobody: 11:52am On Oct 02, 2016
Udmaster:
hahahahaha. Dump reply.
Y not focus on that pit toilet of a state called Bayelsa.
Tell me any South East Capital that Yenegoa is better than?
Yet your people troop there to find their daily bread as hawkers and job men, which ijaw man have you seen leaving his blessed land to go to Abia or Imo to hawk gala

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Udmaster(m): 11:53am On Oct 02, 2016
AjiereTuwo:

This is why no one wants to associate with your group.
Yorubas are associating with us, forget NL rubbish, Igbo learning center was opened in ile ife. World bank are associating with us thats y u have Okonjo iweala, Arunma oteh are there.
Britain are associating with us, thats y 3 Igbos are MPs there. Igbos have their prestige. Unlike u militant drunk.ards .

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Nobody: 11:56am On Oct 02, 2016
Udmaster:
Yorubas are associating with us, forget NL rubbish, Igbo learning center was opened in ile ife. World bank are associating with us thats y u have Okonjo iweala, Arunma oteh are there.
Britain are associating with us, thats y 3 Igbos are MPs there. Igbos have their prestige. Unlike u militant drunk.ards .
At least a militant drunkard has been president. Over to you

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Udmaster(m): 11:57am On Oct 02, 2016
AjiereTuwo:

Yet your people troop there to find their daily bread as hawkers and job men, which ijaw man have you seen living he blessed land to go to Abia or Imo to hawk gala
this comment just prove how mentally lazy u drunkards are.
Every tribe have low,middle and high class individuals.
No one is trooping into that pit toilet of bayelsa.
Very underdeveloped.

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by nonsobaba: 11:58am On Oct 02, 2016
Ikwerre is Igbo only in d imaginations of greedy land grabbers from land of gully erosion.

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Nobody: 11:59am On Oct 02, 2016
Udmaster:
this comment just prove how mentally lazy u drunkards are.
Every tribe have low,middle and high class individuals.
No one is trooping into that pit toilet of bayelsa.
Very underdeveloped.
Yet your brothers run there plate in hand

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Udmaster(m): 12:00pm On Oct 02, 2016
AjiereTuwo:

At least a militant drunkard has been president. Over to you
when Azikiwe was President, No ijaw man have gotten B.degree..
When Emeka Anyaogu was common wealth sec.gen, No ijaw man had a phd.
And what did ur GEJ do? Do that pit toilet called bayelsa have an airport or seaport?
What did he do 4 u people.
Yeye

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by fr3do(m): 12:00pm On Oct 02, 2016
AjiereTuwo:

So do abia state people become ibibio,efik,annang because they marry a lot of akwa ibom women, a peoples ethnicity is majorly based on that of their founding fathers not by marriage


you conveniently ignored the point he made about language.

I believe any Ikwerre man who wishes to exist as just Ikwerre should have his decision respected likewise the Ikwerre man who wishes to be also Igbo.

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 12:01pm On Oct 02, 2016
Udmaster:
if you go to Enugu, dnt be suprised that 70% of them have not heard abt ikwerres.
Tell ikwerres to stop bearing Igbo names and speaking Igbo dialect for this confusion to END.
I can't name my future son "Olamide" because I am not yoruba, y will the ikwerres be naming and bearing Igbo names and speaking Igbo dialect?
The confusion is from them.
So why do many Igbos bear names like Romanus, Hygienus,Romanus and Sylvanus?

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Udmaster(m): 12:02pm On Oct 02, 2016
AjiereTuwo:
Yet your brothers run there plate in hand
you are just blabbing. U guys are naturally lazy.

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Udmaster(m): 12:04pm On Oct 02, 2016
omonnakoda:
So why do many Igbos bear names like Romanus, Hygienus,Romanus and Sylvanus?
due to colonization. Did the Igbos colonize ikwerres?

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Nobody: 12:04pm On Oct 02, 2016
ezeagu:


Is that so? Then why do Rivers men still trek to Imo and Abia for wives, abi these states are now also "south south"?
Are you talking abt those your 2nd hand women, who run away from there villages because of the amount of children they have outside wedlock to come and form single ladies in ph?

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Nobody: 12:06pm On Oct 02, 2016
Udmaster:
you are just blabbing.
U guys are naturally lazy.
U guys are just illiterates, 419ers, ritualists and every other bad stereotype u have.

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Udmaster(m): 12:06pm On Oct 02, 2016
AjiereTuwo:

Are you talking abt those your 2nd hand women, who run away from there villages because of the amount of children they have outside wedlock to come and form single ladies in ph?
when an idiotic bigot have nothing else to say.

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Udmaster(m): 12:09pm On Oct 02, 2016
AjiereTuwo:

U guys are just illiterates, 419ers, ritualists and every other bad stereotype u have.
oh really? Those Igbo paralympics who smashed gold recently must be 419rs? Olodo
ijaw illiterate. Lazy drunkards.
No wonder GEJ avoided answering ijaw name. because people may see him as a lazy illiterate.

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by fr3do(m): 12:10pm On Oct 02, 2016
herbie27:
We have over 250 minor groups and 3 major, the Fulanis are under the Hausas, but that's not my point.
All i know is the Ikwerre's speak Igbo and they can't deny it, you guys can write whatever you like, they're a subgroup of Igbo who migrated into the State.

then where did Anambra and Imo people migrate from?
You think that Ikwerre people must have migrated to their ancestral land because they are Igboid group outside the geographical SE.

It is this fallacy, the northern soldiers who created states began, limit Igbos to 5 SE states and make them think they are limited.

You can't want the Ikwerres to be Igbo when you think no ome can be Igbo without coming from the SE.

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by sarutobie(m): 12:10pm On Oct 02, 2016
oh God not again! you bloody ignoramuses! have you all heard about the word "dialect"?? in Abia state alone we have a dozen dialects of the Igbo language... in IMO state we have a dozen more dialects... the owerre dialect is different from the dialect spoken in orlu or mbano....the same in anambra and Enugu, heck the nsukka man will have a hard time understanding the dialect of an abiriba man in Abia state...YET they all speak the Igbo language.. Duncan mighty a proud ikwerre man, speaks ikwerre dialect in his songs, but I can understand much better than the ohafia dialect...can anyone who listened to Duncan mighty's song for the first time think he is anything but Igbo??

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Nobody: 12:12pm On Oct 02, 2016
Udmaster:
when an idiotic bigot have nothing else to say.
Did i hurt your feelings? Why do you think Igbo men marry lots of outsiders, its cos dose ur so called young women have lots of children outside wedlock, take this advice if your wife is Igbo and she says that small boy in their house is her brother, check again cos its probably her son

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by victorvezx(m): 12:14pm On Oct 02, 2016
In personality structure the typical Igbo has traits of paranoia, narcissism and antisocial personality. He is paranoid because aware of his lack of existential worth, and instead of accepting that reality, he masks it with pretended worth; he pretends to have fictional worth. Why do they think ikwerre people cares about them. It's not by force. Stay on ur own igbos, u are claiming ikwerre people because of oil wealth u don't have. The only natural resources ur region have is Red mud, tiny oil ,worthless coal and erosion. No wonder u want the naturally endowed south-south by claiming ikwerre people, even when they don't want u

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Nobody: 12:15pm On Oct 02, 2016
sarutobie:
oh God not again! you bloody ignoramuses! have you all heard about the word "dialect"?? in Abia state alone we have a dozen dialects of the Igbo language... in IMO state we have a dozen more dialects... the owerre dialect is different from the dialect spoken in orlu or mbano....the same in anambra and Enugu, heck the nsukka man will have a hard time understanding the dialect of an abiriba man in Abia state...YET they all speak the Igbo language.. Duncan mighty a proud ikwerre man, speaks ikwerre dialect in his songs, but I can understand much better than the ohafia dialect...can anyone who listened to Duncan mighty's song for the first time think he is anything but Igbo??
Yes, he actually said in one of his songs "i am an Ijaw youth wey know say Ikwerre be one love,
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by ezeagu(m): 12:16pm On Oct 02, 2016
AjiereTuwo:

Are you talking abt those your 2nd hand women, who run away from there villages because of the amount of children they have outside wedlock to come and form single ladies in ph?

I don't know, are you saying the Igbo women Rivers men marry are second hand, I don't know where you're going with that, because these Igbo women are in fact in wedlock with these Rivers men. Can you swear that there are no Igbo women in your lineage or that of your kinsmen?

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Udmaster(m): 12:16pm On Oct 02, 2016
AjiereTuwo:

Did i hurt your feelings? Why do you think Igbo men marry lots of outsiders, its cos dose ur so called young women have lots of children outside wedlock, take this advice if your wife is Igbo and she says that small boy in their house is her brother, check again cos its probably her son
olodo. Igbo men hardly marry out of tribe.. Its yoruba men thing.
Y will an Igbo girl marry an ijaw? ITS A STEP DOWN for her.
Thats y its rare.

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by omonnakoda: 12:16pm On Oct 02, 2016
Udmaster:
due to colonization. Did the Igbos colonize ikwerres?
Good question.What do you call a process where the names were originally Rumu and then changed to Umu?? That is the subject of this thread

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Nobody: 12:18pm On Oct 02, 2016
Udmaster:
oh really? Those Igbo paralympics who smashed gold recently must be 419rs? Olodo
ijaw illiterate. Lazy drunkards.
No wonder GEJ avoided answering ijaw name. because people may see him as a lazy illiterate.
Do you remember Jaja wachuku,
Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Udmaster(m): 12:20pm On Oct 02, 2016
omonnakoda:
Good question.What do you call a process where the names were originally Rumu and then changed to Umu?? That is the subject of this thread
who changes it? Why didnt Etche, Ogba, Ekpeye, Ogoni etc name changed during the eastern region.

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Nobody: 12:22pm On Oct 02, 2016
Udmaster:
olodo. Igbo men hardly marry out of tribe.. Its yoruba men thing.
Y will an Igbo girl marry an ijaw? ITS A STEP DOWN for her.
Thats y its rare.
Lol, ijaws marry lots of women especially igbo women because of cheap bride price, heck u can even get dem on credit, go and try and marry an Ibani or Kalabari girl and see the value of real women

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Udmaster(m): 12:22pm On Oct 02, 2016
AjiereTuwo:

Do you remember Jaja wachuku,
jaja is not an ijaw name. Jaja of opobo got it 4rm the white man.
No Igbo man will bear an ijaw name. Its an insult.

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Udmaster(m): 12:24pm On Oct 02, 2016
AjiereTuwo:

Lol, ijaws marry lots of women especially igbo women because of cheap bride price, heck u can even get dem on credit, go and try and marry an Ibani or Kalabari girl and see the value of real women
the more u talk. The "coolscot.t" in u is coming out.

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Nobody: 12:27pm On Oct 02, 2016
Udmaster:
jaja is not an ijaw name. Jaja of opobo got it 4rm the white man.
No Igbo man will bear an ijaw name. Its an insult.
Jaja Anglicized form of juwojuwogha, do some research and stop showing ignorance remember u are representing ur tribe

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Nobody: 12:29pm On Oct 02, 2016
omonnakoda:
[s]http://247ureports.com/beyond-chimamanda-and-the-rumu-umu-controversyby-okachikwu-dibia/

Let me educate Chimamanda that Ikwerre names were first changed by the Igbos when the latter colonized the former under the Eastern Regional Government. During this time, Ikwerre was under total social, economic and political control of the Igbo, hence it was extremely difficult then to challenge the changing of Ikwerre names by the Igbo. Who was Ikwerre to challenge Igbo maximum leadership actions in Ikwerreland? We know the indignities suffered by late Chief E. J. A. Oriji in the Eastern House of Assembly and indeed in the hands of the Eastern Region government by insisting that Ikwerre is not Igbo.

Another means through which Igbo names came into existence in Ikwerre was via other interactions between the Ikwerre and the Igbo. But note that these interactions were initially with mutual respect but later became one between a stronger culture (Igbo) and a weaker culture (Ikwerre) within a new rampaging political regime that favoured the Igbo culture aimed at becoming an absolute dominant culture in the region. For example there were names like Port Azikiwe (Igbo name) for Port Harcourt; Igirita (Igbo name) for Igwuruta; Amaweke (Igbo name) for Rumuokwuta; Obinna (Igbo name) for Ovundah; Onyemaechi (Igbo name) for Yelemaekhile etc. Take note that the non-Igbo names were there before they were changed by the Igbo into Igbo names. Natuarally, the Ikwerre did not like the changing of such names; but Ikwerre could not challenge these local colonizers.

Also recall that during the Eastern Regional Government, Igbo language was the second official language used to teach in schools throughout the region, to worship in churches and used in offices. Some Ikwerre who dared to use Ikwerre language in the church for example were punished by the Igbo who were in charge of the churches in the first place (see page 145 in my book titled: The Challenge of Ikwerre Development in Nigeria 2011).

It was in these circumstances that, especially after the creation of Rivers State, Ikwerre people got relieved and encouraged enough to change some of the Igbo-imposed names back to their original Ikwerre names. It was this second change of names that Chimamanda and indeed most Igbos see as Ikwerre’s effort at denying being Igbo. That is not true! The real reason for the second change of names was to return the names to their true and authentic Ikwerre names.[/s]

Typical afonja...using deception to divide

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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Nature8(m): 12:30pm On Oct 02, 2016
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Re: PORT HARCOURT: Who Changed The Names From Umu To Rumu And Why by Udmaster(m): 12:33pm On Oct 02, 2016
AjiereTuwo:

Jaja Anglicized form of juwojuwogha, do some research and stop showing ignorance remember u are representing ur tribe
jaja wachukwu did not answer juwojuwogha.
It does not relate with jaja.
Igbo man can't bear ijaw name whatever

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