jonbellion:
that of kind of scenario is extremely unlikely
But this kind of shit is complicated
I will be disgusted
But wetin I go do na
But if you look at it this way if lying is wrong then lying to save a life is horrible and should be reprimanded at all costs
There are dome kind of things that actually need more than false dichotomy and this is what the christian doctrine is based upon

So you will observe and walk out. Anyway I will pardon your ignorance because you are still 24 with no plans of marriage now.

Meanwhile use your time to work on your morality and get ready a horse whip just in case such a scenario plays out in your household.

4everGod:


Whatever a man does with his free will is honoured by God and he will not interfere until the man says he needs help.

Rather God would be interested in his heart and the heart of the person he submitted to.

If that heart is right then both free wills can become Gods own as one can say " please take me as your slave and the other can reject that but rather opt to help such a one without recourse to slavery".

Gbam !

They are not smart enough to understand , we have exposed atheists , dragged them through the mud so they'll feign ignorance just to get back at Christians

foladara777:

I can't do it. Is it wrong... That's a question that is subject to personal opinion... It's weird but I can't say it's wrong because there are no victims

Lmao. So there are no victims...issorrait!

foladara777:

I can't do it. Is it wrong... That's a question that is subject to personal opinion... It's weird but I can't say it's wrong because there are no victims

Let's say you walk in on your son and daughter , adults of course , having consensual sex , would you reprimand them ? And what reasons would you give for reprimanding them .

"Its gross" , "Its weird" aren't reasonable responses .

KingEbukaNaija:


Gbam !

They are not smart enough to understand , we have exposed atheists , dragged them through the mud so they'll feign ignorance just to get back at Christians

My brother being abnormally normal abnormally is something they are used to so no surprises there.

If they understood free will in relation to God they would be quiet.

4everGod:


Why dance on hot coals boy?

Even now you are a slave to your church. you have been for 7yrs according to you. Or was your desire to be an instrumentalist voluntary? If it was then why do you find it hard to believe that there are those who voluntarily submit themselves into a life of servitude?

Who are monks? Who are priests? who are nuns? Are you not also a slave?

This is a stupid comment. I play for my church because I enjoy it, and u know instrumentalists have a special place in the hearts of the choir girls... It is voluntary but it's not servitude. There are too many fine girls in my church to turn down being an instrumentalist... But apart from that I love playing live music... Even in my fellowship in school, am very involved in the choir... U still haven't told me what u do in your church

foladara777:

This is a stupid comment. I play for my church because I enjoy it, and u know instrumentalists have a special place in the hearts of the choir girls... It is voluntary but it's not servitude. There are too many fine girls in my church to turn down being an instrumentalist... But apart from that I love playing live music... Even in my fellowship in school, am very involved in the choir... U still haven't told me what u do in your church

Keep on rxposing yourself.

So you are there for the girls? Is that not your reward for servitude? You are a slave boy!

KingEbukaNaija:


Nobody is denying this . God has now commanded against incestuous relationships . So tell me , as an atheist who had denied the source of morality which is God , is incest for pleasure right or wrong

Was incest right when God allowed it? Didn't he know that incest was wrong before he allowed it? The truth of the matter is that the Jews that felt incest was right later decided it was wrong and they used their God as an enforcing mechanism. Incest is neither right or wrong, it just depends in the society you are living in.Muslims happily practice incest by marrying their first cousins because Islam allows it. Are they doing the wrong thing? Allah their God says it's right . By the way which God is the source of human morality? I just told you that Allah allows incest. So which God is it?

KingEbukaNaija:


Let's say you walk in on your son and daughter , adults of course , having consensual sex , would you reprimand them ? And what reasons would you give for reprimanding them .

"Its gross" , "Its weird" aren't reasonable responses .

Reprimand them... Adults??... I would prefer they didn't do it and I will tell them that, but I wouldn't reprimand them... U have not answered my questions. Or is this a cross- examination?

dalaman:


Was incest right when God allowed it? Didn't he know that incest was wrong before he allowed it? The truth of the matter is that the Jews that felt incest was right later decided it was wrong and they used their God as an enforcing mechanism. Incest is neither right or wrong, it just depends in the society you are living in.Muslims happily practice incest by marrying their first cousins because Islam allows it. Are they doing the wrong thing? Allah their God says it's right . By the way which God is the source of human morality? I just told you that Allah allows incest. So which God is it?

Baba you make sense... With all the conversations God had with Abraham, not once did he mention incest

dalaman:


Was incest right when God allowed it? Didn't he know that incest was wrong before he allowed it? The truth of the matter is that the Jews that felt incest was right later decided it was wrong and they used their God as an enforcing mechanism. Incest is neither right or wrong, it just depends in the society you are living in.Muslims happily practice incest by marrying their first cousins because Islam allows it. Are they doing the wrong thing? Allah their God says it's right . By the way which God is the source of human morality? I just told you that Allah allows incest. So which God is it?

Ok sir , I understand sir

Please can you now answer the question . Is incest for pleasure to you , right or wrong ? Uncle D , why are you evading this question ? I hope you know that response above is circumlocutory .

If you walk in on your adult children having consensual sex , would you reprimand them ?

foladara777:

Reprimand them... Adults??... I would prefer they didn't do it and I will tell them that, but I wouldn't reprimand them... U have not answered my questions. Or is this a cross- examination?

I answered your question , scroll up

4everGod:



Lmao. So there are no victims...issorrait!

Who are the victims?? Just be making bland statements upandan.

KingEbukaNaija:


Ok sir , I understand sir

You didn't answer his question?

foladara777:

Who are the victims?? Just be making bland statements upandan.

If you say you play for pleasure then you are slave to your own pleasures. If you say you play because of the choir girls then you are a slave to the system because of them. Either way you are a slave!

The victims are the girls as they are the ones you defile thereby offending God. Your recompense awaits you Mr Slave!

KingEbukaNaija:


Ok sir , I understand sir

Please can you now answer the question . Is incest for pleasure to you , right or wrong ? Uncle D , why are you evading this question ? I hope you know that response above is circumlocutory .

If you walk in on your adult children having consensual sex , would you reprimand them ?

Incest to me is wrong partly because I grew up with the idea that it is wrong. Secondly I feel it is wrong because it will stop people from going out of the family to look for mates. If I walk in on my children have sex I'll repremand them for the reasons outlined. Incest leads to offsprings with genetic disorder.

4kings:

You didn't answer his question?

The question is just to evade giving an answer . I'm used to arguing with uncle D . He is the king of circumlocution . You have to always stay focused so you can nail him .

He has said this exact thing on this thread before

dalaman:


Incest to me is wrong partly because I grew up with the idea that it is wrong. Secondly I feel it is wrong because it will stop people from going out of the family to look for mates. If I walk in on my children have sex I'll repremand them for the reasons outlined. Incest leads to offsprings with genetic disorder.

Ebuka are you are!

Incest is not a sin! its only wrong by human standards and will affect xternal procreation.

Nna just negodu

4everGod:


Ebuka are you are!

Incest is not a sin! its only wrong by human standards and will affect xternal procreation.

Nna just negodu

Incest is a sin according to who? Allah the creator of the universe says it's not. Who are you to say it is? Even the founder of your religion was an incestuous man. Didn't your God know that incest was wrong when he allowed Abraham to marry his sister?

KingEbukaNaija:


I answered your question , scroll up

No, you didn't. What makes slavery, paedophilia and use of hard drugs bad??

KingEbukaNaija:


The question is just to evade giving an answer . I'm used to arguing with uncle D . He is the king of circumlocution . You have to always stay focused so you can nail him .

He has said this exact thing on this thread before

Did your GodGod not know that incest was wrong wen he allowed Abraham to marry his sister? Why did he change his mind? Isn't he all knowing again? Which God is the source of human morality when Allah allows muslims to practice incest?

4everGod:



Lmao. So there are no victims...issorrait!

Who are the victims of consentual sex between two adult siblings for pleasure?

dalaman:


Incest to me is wrong partly because I grew up with the idea that it is wrong. Secondly I feel it is wrong because it will stop people from going out of the family to look for mates. If I walk in on my children have sex I'll repremand them for the reasons outlined. Incest leads to offsprings with genetic disorder.

My parents complain about my introversion and always encourage me to go outside and meet people , since introversion limits social interaction , does it make introversion morally wrong ? All I'm saying is that your second reason is not a good reason . Its what you feel , it does not make it wrong .

You growing up with the idea of it being wrong isn't a cogent reason either . Why should God's moral laws still influence your decisions as an atheist .

dalaman:


Did your a God not know that incest was wrong wen he allowed Abraham to marry his sister? Why did he change his mind? Isn't he all knowing again? Which God is the source of human morality when Allah allows muslims to practice incest?

Some religions immolate children , it does not make it right . This is an argument about the true God in disguise .

dalaman:


Who are the victims of consentual sex between to adult siblings for pleasure?

Heading to a community now for business. I will answer you when done.

4everGod:


Ebuka are you are!

Incest is not a sin! its only wrong by human standards and will affect xternal procreation.

Nna just negodu

Nna eh ..

KingEbukaNaija:


My parents complain about my introversion and always encourage me to go outside and meet people , since introversion limits social interaction , does it make introversion morally wrong ? All I'm saying is that your second reason is not a good reason . Is what you feel , it does not make it wrong .

I agree that it's not a good reason. You asked for my personal view and I stated it. Your reason that God said it is also not a good reason at all. You can not convincetwo adults siblings that want to have sex for pleasure that God said they shouldnt. It's not a cogent reason. Because some other Gods see nothing wrong with it. Your God before he changes his mind saw nothing wrong with it.

You growing up with the idea of it being wrong isn't a cogent reason either . Why should God's moral laws still influence your decisions as an atheist.

Again I admit it isn't a cogent reason. It's not God's moral law because it just happens to be the law of the society I grew up in. Allah doesn't see anything wrong with some type of incest and as such he doesn't frown at it and says it is allowed. So which God is the source of human morality again? Tell me pls.

KingEbukaNaija:


Some religions immolate children , it does not make it right . This is an argument about the true God in disguise .

Which is the true God? How do you know? Is there any objective means of testing and knowing?

foladara777:

Why are u scared of changing the topic to the bible?? Are u scared it will be exposed as a book of incests? Even Jesus had a product of incest in his lineage

Atheists are the scared ones, they afraid to defend their views, that's why they always so desperate to change the topic, it's a tactic only a coward would use.

This baba God sef no know wetin he want... The first incest incidence ever was caused by God... The one that occurred between their children. Why create only one family if you don't want incest. The second incest too, na baba God cause am. He only left Noah's family after the flood, so the children and grand children were busy straffing each other and he was watching all along... There was even a product of incest in Jesus genealogy... I mean can God just make up his mind about what he wants

Richirich713:


Atheists are the scared ones, they afraid to defend their views, that's why they always so desperate to change the topic, it's a tactic only a coward would use.

Amma copy and paste for you... Just attempt to address the issue raised. I know it will be difficult but try to stay on topic. So...
This baba God sef no know wetin he want... The first incest incidence ever was caused by God... The one that occurred between their children. Why create only one family if you don't want incest. The second incest too, na baba God cause am. He only left Noah's family after the flood, so the children and grand children were busy straffing each other and he was watching all along... There was even a product of incest in Jesus genealogy... I mean can God just make up his mind about what he wants