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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:08pm On Jan 03, 2017
taurus25:

I simply do not know if such being exist or not. hence i refuse to assume one does.

How then are you going to know ? Or how would you come to the realization that such being exists ?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:08pm On Jan 03, 2017
strawman , I see you bro cool
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:11pm On Jan 03, 2017
Dalaman , your chance to finally prove that atheism is not illogical is here
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by JideAmuGiaka: 8:14pm On Jan 03, 2017
taurus25:


Honestly, his question is meaningless. How can you explicitly say something is illogically without any arguments to state why, and then ask people to counter your assertions?

Any question that's hard for the atheists to comprehend is always meaningless to them why?.

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by taurus25(m): 8:16pm On Jan 03, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


How then are you going to know ? Or how would you come to the realization that such being exists ?

It is abosulutely not necessary for me to find out if such a being exists, it has not and would not bear any significance to my life. Im only concerned with tracing the roots of my existence in the most logical means possible. cool

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by Strawman: 8:17pm On Jan 03, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
strawman , I see you bro cool

Why, hello there!


Interesting thread. Popped by to read responses tongue

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:18pm On Jan 03, 2017
taurus25:

used to introduce god into the picture due to lack of incomplete human understanding.


I posted this not too long ago :

The first atheists in history opposed the existence of God because they thought the universe has always been . They even ignorantly declared this . Like the charvaka school of philosophy in India believed that everything that exists is composed of fire , water , air and earth . Those guys after Diagoras of Melos promoted atheism .

There were people like Bertrand Russell posited that

The universe needs no explanation; it is “just there, and that's all

But we see superior evidence in Science confuting such egregiously ignorant statement that the universe came into being approx 14 billion years ago

The atheists through out history from the inception of atheism 2500 years have been arguing for the existence of an eternal universe and all have failed in the face of evidence .




Don't you think atheists are doing the exact same thing you accuse theists of ?

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by taurus25(m): 8:18pm On Jan 03, 2017
JideAmuGiaka:


Any question that's hard for the atheists to comprehend is always meaningless to them why?.
lol...you'd be engaged logically if you present a logical argument......cool
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by Ranchhoddas: 8:20pm On Jan 03, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


How then are you going to know ? Or how would you come to the realization that such being exists ?
It's too early for goal-post shifting. The thread is about the illogicality of atheism. He has explained his position, show that it's illogical or go to bed.

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:22pm On Jan 03, 2017
Strawman:


Why, hello there!


Interesting thread. Popped by to read responses tongue

No problem bro .

Its just at its inchoate stage .

Could get intense later depending on how atheists respond .
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by taurus25(m): 8:23pm On Jan 03, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


I posted this not too long ago :

The first atheists in history opposed the existence of God because they thought the universe has always been . They even ignorantly declared this . Like the charvaka school of philosophy in India believed that everything that exists is composed of fire , water , air and earth . Those guys after Diagoras of Melos promoted atheism .

There were people like Bertrand Russell posited that

The universe needs no explanation; it is “just there, and that's all

But we see superior evidence in Science confuting such egregiously ignorant statement that the universe came into being approx 14 billion years ago

The atheists through out history from the inception of atheism 2500 years have been arguing for the existence of an eternal universe and all have failed in the face of evidence .




Don't you think atheists are doing the exact same thing you accuse theists of ?
lol, you now argue for the big bang?.........interesting

A non-eternal universe on its own is by no means an argument for a creator.
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:23pm On Jan 03, 2017
taurus25:


It is abosulutely not necessary for me to find out if such a being exists, it has not and would not bear any significance to my life. Im only concerned with tracing the roots of my existence in the most logical means possible. cool

This is apatheism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apatheism
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by dalaman: 8:25pm On Jan 03, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Dalaman , your chance to finally prove that atheism is not illogical is here

I do not believe that any God exist. You defined God but failed to show how such a being exist. What can be asserted without evidence needs to be dismissed without evidence as well.

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:25pm On Jan 03, 2017
Ranchhoddas:
It's too early for goal-post shifting. The thread is about the illogicality of atheism. He has explained his position, show that it's illogical or go to bed.

There is no goal shifting here . He is to prove that atheism is not illogical not me .

Pay attention to the title of thread or go to bed smiley

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:27pm On Jan 03, 2017
dalaman:


I do not believe that any God exist. You defined God but failed to show how such a being exist. What can be asserted without evidence needs to be dismissed without evidence as well.

That means you need evidence right ? What kind of evidence are you talking about here ?

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by dalaman: 8:30pm On Jan 03, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


That means you need evidence right ? What kind of evidence are you talking about here ?

Direct evidence. What is the evidence that the sun exist? What about the wind? What about other planets? I need direct evidence to show that God/Gods exist.

Pointing to the existence of other things as existence of God is just a copout. People don't point to plants as evidence for the existence of the sun. The point to the sun it self. Why is God hidden? In religious stories we hear God coming to interact with men in various ways directly. I need direct evidence not arguments based on ignorance which is what all the theist augments amounts to.

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:31pm On Jan 03, 2017
taurus25:

lol, you now argue for the big bang?.........interesting

A non-eternal universe on its own is by no means an argument for a creator.

Please note that the

a. Universe creating itself is a logical absurdity .

b. Infinite regress of causes is illogical and impossible

c. Smolin’s Evolutionary Cosmology is mere speculation

With that sorted out here's the Cosmological Argument for the Existence of God

1. Whatever begins to exist must have a cause

2. The universe began to exist

3. Therefore , the universe has cause

Do you agree that this is a tenable argument for the existence of God ?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by Ranchhoddas: 8:32pm On Jan 03, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


There is no goal shifting here . He is to prove that atheism is not illogical not me .

Pay attention to the title of thread or go to bed smiley
Unless you want to lie to yourself, the title of the thread is an assertion of the 'illogicality of atheism'. He who asserts must prove remember?

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by felixomor: 8:33pm On Jan 03, 2017
dalaman:


Direct evidence. What is the evidence that the sun exist? What about the wind? What about other planets? I need direct evidence to show that God/Gods exist.

Pointing to the existence of other things as existence of God is just a copout. People don't point to plants as evidence for the existence of the sun. The point to the sun it self. Why is God hidden? In religious stories we hear God coming to interact with me in various ways directly. I need direct5evidence not arguments based on ignorance which is what all the theist augments amounts to.

Wind exists.
Can u see it?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by dalaman: 8:34pm On Jan 03, 2017
felixomor:


Wind exist.
Can u see it?

Who mentioned sight? There is direct evidence for the wind.

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by Nobody: 8:35pm On Jan 03, 2017
Atheists can't answer that. They are programed to ask grin

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by felixomor: 8:35pm On Jan 03, 2017
dalaman:


Who mentioned sight. There is direct evidence for the wind.

Try to always answer directly, can u see wind?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by Nobody: 8:36pm On Jan 03, 2017
dalaman:


Direct evidence. What is the evidence that the sun exist? What about the wind? What about other planets? I need direct evidence to show that God/Gods exist.

Pointing to the existence of other things as existence of God is just a copout. People don't point to plants as evidence for the existence of the sun. The point to the sun it self. Why is God hidden? In religious stories we hear God coming to interact with me in various ways directly. I need direct5evidence not arguments based on ignorance which is what all the theist augments amounts to.


Incidentally Plants are a proof that the Sun exists as without the Sun there would be no Photosynthesis which plants need to generate food and live. So when you see Plants thriving you know they have enjoyed abundant sunlight. So the Plants affirm to the existence of the Sun smiley wink

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by felixomor: 8:37pm On Jan 03, 2017
4everGod:



Incidentally Plants are a proof that the Sun exists as without the Sun there would be no Photosynthesis which plants need to generate food and live. So when you see Plants thriving you know they have enjoyed abundant sunlight. So the Plants affirm to the existence of the Sun smiley wink

That guy is not a scientist, obviously.
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by dalaman: 8:38pm On Jan 03, 2017
4everGod:



Incidentally Plants are a proof that the Sun exists as without the Sun there would be no Photosynthesis which plants need to generate food and live. So when you see Plants thriving you know they have enjoyed abundant sunlight. So the Plants affirm to the existence of the Sun smiley wink

The sun affirms to the existence of the sun. You have no point.

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:38pm On Jan 03, 2017
dalaman:


Direct evidence. What is the evidence that the sun exist? What about the wind? What about other planets? I need direct evidence to show that God/Gods exist.

Pointing to the existence of other things as existence of God is just a copout. People don't point to plants as evidence for the existence of the sun. The point to the sun it self. Why is God hidden? In religious stories we hear God coming to interact with me in various ways directly. I need direct5evidence not arguments based on ignorance which is what all the theist augments amounts to.


Let's address this logically , no need for all this .

So please answer these questions

1. If "A" causes or brings "B" into existence , is "A" the creator of "B" ?

If yes :

2. Can we deduce the properties of A from the observation of B ?

If no

Why ?

Please I need a perspicuous response .

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by dalaman: 8:39pm On Jan 03, 2017
felixomor:


Try to always answer directly, can u see wind?

You are making things up and running commentary on them. Who.mentioned sight any where? I said direct evidence. There is direct evidence for the wind.
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by Nobody: 8:39pm On Jan 03, 2017
dalaman:


The sun affirms to the existence of the sun. You have no point.

lol So daylight affirms to the existence of what? Plants affirm to the existence of what? The heat you feel on your body at noon day when outside affirm to the existence of what? cheesy

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:40pm On Jan 03, 2017
dalaman:


The sun affirms to the existence of the sun. You have no point.

Dalaman

If life on earth should be obliterated , how can we tell that intelligent life existed on earth ?

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by Nobody: 8:41pm On Jan 03, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Dalaman

If life on earth should be obliterated , how can we tell that intelligent life existed on earth ?

million dollar question right here cheesy

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by felixomor: 8:43pm On Jan 03, 2017
dalaman:


You are making things up and running commentary on them. Who.mentioned sight any where? I said direct evidence. There is direct evidence for the wind.

You refered to something u can "point to" if i am not mistaking?

Or is your "point to" metaphorical/literal?

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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:46pm On Jan 03, 2017
4everGod:


million dollar question right here cheesy

Let's hope Dalaman does not evade the question grin

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