felixomor:



Why do u keep thinking that when u write plenty stuff, then u make sense?

Quran said Jesus did not die,
Allah deceived them to make it look like He did....

Abi?
And that is what the Op said,
U are yet to rebutt that claim.

go back and read my prev post pls if that answer is not enough for u then sorry i cant help u

And now you quoted apocalypse of Peter,
Please do you believe in that book?
If you believe it, then letz discuss

But if u cant allow us to discuss that book, then what u have posted here is rubbish.

Choose one

both. just go and create a thread for that and quote me not just talking without proving anything pls
pls quote me only if u have proofs for ur empty claims

felixomor:


Allah deceived people, to believe death of Jesus

Yes or No?
Stop dancing yo-yo

ok. Next

aminusanti:


what a shame! just look at how you are beating around the bush of something thats straight forward and u are here talking nonsense..keep dribbling around

Luke 4:10-12
10 For the Scriptures say, ‘He will order his angels to protect and guard you.
11 And they will hold you up with their hands so you won’t even hurt your foot on a stone.’”
12 Jesus responded, “The Scriptures also say, ‘You must not test the Lord your God.’”

Matthew 4:5-10
*5 Then the devil took him to the holy city, Jerusalem, to the highest point of the Temple,
*6 and said, “If you are the Son of God, jump off! For the Scriptures say, ‘He will order his angels to protect you. And they will hold you up with their hands so you won’t even hurt your foot on a stone.’”
*7 Jesus responded, “The Scriptures also say, ‘You must not test the Lord your God.’”
*8 Next the devil took him to the peak of a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.
*9 “I will give it all to you,” he said, “if you will kneel down and worship me.”
*10 “Get out of here, Satan,” Jesus told him. “For the Scriptures say, ‘You must worship the Lord your God and serve only him.’”

There are few points to notice in these verses:

1- Notice how satan referred to Psalm 91 regarding the protection of Jesus.

2- Notice how Jesus confirmed that Psalm 91 was indeed speaking about him by saying "the Scriptures also say..." (Luke 4:12 and Matthew 4:7).

Are you daft?

The psalm verse was talking about anyone who takes GOD's name as a refuge, that he will protect them. If satan should tempt an ordinary man today in that manner, he will still quote the same verse, which shows that it can apply to anyone. PLS read the entire chapter.

Ask yourself why christ didn't accept the challenge if you say that scripture was for him.


Psalm 91

1 WHOEVER dwells in the shelter of the Most High
will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.[a]
2 I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress,
my God, in whom I trust.”
3 Surely he will save you
from the fowler’s snare
and from the deadly pestilence.
4 He will cover you with his feathers,
and under his wings you will find refuge;
his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.
5 You will not fear the terror of night,
nor the arrow that flies by day,
6 nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness,
nor the plague that destroys at midday.
7 A thousand may fall at your side,
ten thousand at your right hand,
but it will not come near you.
8 You will only observe with your eyes
and see the punishment of the wicked.
9 If you say, “The Lord is my refuge,”
and you make the Most High your dwelling,
10 no harm will overtake you,
no disaster will come near your tent.
11 For he will command his angels concerning you
to guard you in all your ways;
12 they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.
13 You will tread on the lion and the cobra;
you will trample the great lion and the serpent.
14 “Because he[b] loves me,” says the Lord, “I will rescue him;
I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.
15 He will call on me, and I will answer him;
I will be with him in trouble,
I will deliver him and honor him.
16 With long life I will satisfy him
and show him my salvation.”

aminusanti:

ok. Next

Good.
Conclusion: Allah Caused Christianity to spread

LifestyleTonite:
Rather, according to the lying and plagiarist quran that came 500 yrs after the bible was already in circulation. OK, PLS WHERE ARE THE ORIGINAL writings of the disciples? The Quran needs to provide that or it will forever be seen as a LIAR.

only a foolish person would stick to Bible as word of God and back it despite all the proofs provided to you
Read the Quran with open mind and you will surely see what we are seeing..

Allah also needs to be judged for dooming an innocent fellow instead of christ.

Deceive to what?? Christianity ? and for deceiving that the one who died was God and that the law is canceled because it is a curse and Jesus became a curse and that he is the second person in trinity!
lol.. dis is what i call madness i swear

Again! go back and read my prev post with open mind and u see the explanation there

Which apocalypse? Who told you thats a true book not written by a lying islamist?

ok

i already showed you how those verses were YAHSHUA himself making those promises to mankind and not those promises being made to him.

NO you didnt..

LifestyleTonite:
[s]Are you daft?

The psalm verse was talking about anyone who takes GOD's name as a refuge, that he will protect them. If satan should tempt an ordinary man today in that manner, he will still quote the same verse, which shows that it can apply to anyone. PLS read the entire chapter.

Ask yourself why christ didn't accept the challenge if you say that scripture was for him.


Psalm 91

1 WHOEVER dwells in the shelter of the Most High
will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.[a]
2 I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress,
my God, in whom I trust.”
3 Surely he will save you
from the fowler’s snare
and from the deadly pestilence.
4 He will cover you with his feathers,
and under his wings you will find refuge;
his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.
5 You will not fear the terror of night,
nor the arrow that flies by day,
6 nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness,
nor the plague that destroys at midday.
7 A thousand may fall at your side,
ten thousand at your right hand,
but it will not come near you.
8 You will only observe with your eyes
and see the punishment of the wicked.
9 If you say, “The Lord is my refuge,”
and you make the Most High your dwelling,
10 no harm will overtake you,
no disaster will come near your tent.
11 For he will command his angels concerning you
to guard you in all your ways;
12 they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.
13 You will tread on the lion and the cobra;
you will trample the great lion and the serpent.
14 “Because he[b] loves me,” says the Lord, “I will rescue him;
I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.
15 He will call on me, and I will answer him;
I will be with him in trouble,
I will deliver him and honor him.
16 With long life I will satisfy him
and show him my salvation.”[/s]

you don't know what u are doing i bliv
remove that trinity nonsense from ur head then you will see what those verses are talking about
just look at how confuse you people are
So according to you jesus at that situation that satan tempt him knowing he is Yahweh by telling satan to go those verses are not for him right
may God save you people.. honestly ur belief is nothing but madness. in several verses jesus is telling u people he nothing but a messenger and he can't do nothing by his own will but u are here telling us something different

aminusanti:
only a foolish person would stick to Bible as word of God and back it despite all the proofs provided to you
Read the Quran with open mind and you will surely see what we are seeing..


Deceive to what?? Christianity ? and for deceiving that the one who died was God and that the law is canceled because it is a curse and Jesus became a curse and that he is the second person in trinity!
lol.. dis is what i call madness i swear

Again! go back and read my prev post with open mind and u see the explanation there



ok


NO you didnt..

Why do you always bring up the trinity talk as a way of derailing any thread bigger than you? Mind you, not all christians hold that doctrine including me.

Now, remove the trinity talk from your write up to see that you haven't said anything.

btw, why are the rest islamic terrorists afraid of this thread? I thought i saw rilwayne001 peeping a while ago. The fact that they have not been able to contribute is enough to show you that they have no idea. The fact that they have not been able to back you up is enough to show that they know you are not making sense, just the usual expired al taqyya

LifestyleTonite:
Why do you always bring up the trinity talk as a way of derailing any thread bigger than you? Mind you, not all christians hold that doctrine including me.

Now, remove the trinity talk from your write up to see that you haven't said anything.

btw, why are the rest islamic terrorists afraid of this thread? I thought i saw rilwayne001 peeping a while ago. The fact that they have not been able to contribute is enough to show you that they have no idea. The fact that they have not been able to back you up is enough to show that they know you are not making sense, just the usual expired al taqyya

Yes, I am afraid of this thread.

Rilwayne001:


Yes, I am afraid of this thread.

CONFIRMED

LifestyleTonite:
Why do you always bring up the trinity talk as a way of derailing any thread bigger than you? Mind you, not all christians hold that doctrine including me.

Now, remove the trinity talk from your write up to see that you haven't said anything.

btw, why are the rest islamic terrorists afraid of this thread? I thought i saw rilwayne001 peeping a while ago. The fact that they have not been able to contribute is enough to show you that they have no idea. The fact that they have not been able to back you up is enough to show that they know you are not making sense, just the usual expired al taqyya

ok next

Rilwayne001:


Yes, I am afraid of this thread.

That's the best way to stay out of their madness lol

LifestyleTonite:
This guy is one funny dude. Never have i seen someone quote verses out of context like the way he did.
.

So you can complain @bold?

aminusanti:
ok then stop quoting/ mentioning me from now on and lets see who curiosity ll kill
wondering how a grown human being wld be thinking n reasoning like animal
I really like the way most of the muslim here on NL r ignoring u pple

They are products of rape by bandits They usually think from their @ss. I don't have their time

ilynem:
Before I start, I want to say I am a Christian. And also I want to plead that this thread is not intended to spread vile or religious war between nairalanders as I just want a sincere and honest answer from our Muslim brothers and sisters.
I have the Quaran in my phone because I am a man who loves to search for the truth. So in Surah Chapter 4, it was stated that Jesus didn't die, instead it was made to look like he did and Allah took him. So Allah made it to look like he was killed but he wasn't really killed. Now looking at this, it is just a simple statement but the controversy lies with Jesus followers. Now Jesus followers went about spreading the news of His death and resurrection and I can only raise two conclusions from this.
1. Jesus followers knew he didn't die and decided to lie to that world that he did.
2. Jesus followers also believed he died and resurrected which means Allah also made them believe he died on the cross.
Now, number one is unlikely, because these followers were tortured and killed for their beliefs and not one of them decided to change his story. I wouldn't die for a lie and what did they stand to gain by lying? Liars make bad martyrs.
So this leaves us with option 2 which means Allah also made them believe Jesus died. And then they went around spreading a false message which they believed all because of Allah himself. So Allah's actions actually started the spread of the biggest belief system in the world. And He had to wait 600 years to correct this erroneous message through the prophet Muhammad.
This is not the only conclusion to that verse. This also means that Jesus in Islam was a monumental failure. What did he actually accomplish? His virgin birth, miracles and all was for nothing because his closest followers went around spreading a false message. This also questions Jesus judgement! He can form a bird from clay and make it come alive but can't choose followers to spread the right message?
Like I said, I don't intend to start any religious war, I just want a perfect explanation. Thank you.

Frm ur post u said d followers were totured and killed. Hw wud dey spread d message if dey r dead

ibtz:

Frm ur post u said d followers were totured and killed. Hw wud dey spread d message if dey r dead

They were tortured and killed for spreading the gospel, not before spreading it.

Empiree:
They are products of rape by bandits They usually think from their @ss. I don't have their time

whose religion legalizes rape more than muslims?

annunaki2:


Is it the same terror manual labelled as the quoran that instructs muslims to fight Christians and Jews and curses them in quoran 9:29-30 that you are talking about

And since when did that poorly piece of thrash that has brought so much misery to mankind called the quoran become credible? It might be the words of your Arabian pagan idol called Allah but it's certainly not the words of the one true God.

It was clearly instructed to all muslims to fight against only those who fight you i.e those who attack u first and refrain frm dem if dey withdraw.
[Quran 2:190]
And fight in the Way of Allâh those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allâh likes not the transgressors.
Quran 2:191
And kill them wherever u find them and Turn them out from WHERE THEY HAVE TURNED YOU OUT. AND AL-FITNAH(POLYTHEISM) is worse than killing, And fight not them at Al-Makkah unless they first fight u there. But if they attack you, then kill then. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
Quran 2:192
But if they cease, then Allah is oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

Frm dis verses above, it is stated dat attack only if u r attacked first and refrain if they cease.

Now going to Quran 9:29-30
Quran chapter 9 Surah At-Taubah was revealed during d truce between d muslims and Arab pagans who in d whole of d Quran are referred to as d disbelievrs. Quran nevet mentioned christians and jews as disbelievers but refers to dem as people of the book (past Scriptures).

Since it was commanded that U shud not attack until u are attackef first, this verse does not come into effect until u r attacked first.

Moreover, the Prophet (S.A.W) neva fought with d jews or christians, he lived with dem in peace in medina after
arab pagans had sought to kill him in mecca.
There is also d story of Negus in abyssinia a christian king in modern day ethiopia who the Prophet sent some muslims to afta untold killings and persecution of muslims in mecca.

Empiree:
They are products of rape by bandits They usually think from their @ss. I don't have their time

we cant be the product of rape cos our religion doesnt permit rape unlike yours.

Quran (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess."

Empiree:
They are products of rape by bandits They usually think from their @ss. I don't have their time

we cant be products of rape cos our religion doesnt permit rape unlike islam.

Quran (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess."

pls face topic or runaway like you did a while ago.

The Quran says
[Quran 16:125]
Invite all to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching, and argue with them in ways that are the best. Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His Path, and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided.

ibtz:


It was clearly instructed to all muslims to fight against only those who fight you i.e those who attack u first and refrain frm dem if dey withdraw.
[Quran 2:190]
And fight in the Way of Allâh those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allâh likes not the transgressors.
Quran 2:191
And kill them wherever u find them and Turn them out from WHERE THEY HAVE TURNED YOU OUT. AND AL-FITNAH(POLYTHEISM) is worse than killing, And fight not them at Al-Makkah unless they first fight u there. But if they attack you, then kill then. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
Quran 2:192
But if they cease, then Allah is oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

Frm dis verses above, it is stated dat attack only if u r attacked first and refrain if they cease.

Now going to Quran 9:29-30
Quran chapter 9 Surah At-Taubah was revealed during d truce between d muslims and Arab pagans who in d whole of d Quran are referred to as d disbelievrs. Quran nevet mentioned christians and jews as disbelievers but refers to dem as people of the book (past Scriptures).

Since it was commanded that U shud not attack until u are attackef first, this verse does not come into effect until u r attacked first.

Moreover, the Prophet (S.A.W) neva fought with d jews or christians, he lived with dem in peace in medina after
arab pagans had sought to kill him in mecca.
There is also d story of Negus in abyssinia a christian king in modern day ethiopia who the Prophet sent some muslims to afta untold killings and persecution of muslims in mecca.

so the quran tells you to attack if they attack you first. See what YAHSHUA said below concerning such situations.

Mathew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Can you now see which religion is peaceful? Moreover, did the people of north africa, spain and portugal attack middle east muslims before muslims decided to invade europe and north africa? NO

ibtz:
The Quran says
[Quran 16:125]
Invite all to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching, and argue with them in ways that are the best. Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His Path, and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided.

PLS, this thread has 2 questions yet to be answered. If you cant attempt them, then don't waste precious space preaching about allah that cant reveal the answers to muslims.

ibtz:

Frm ur post u said d followers were totured and killed. Hw wud dey spread d message if dey r dead

The same way Martin Luther king passed his message before he died.

alBHAGDADI:
so the quran tells you to attack if they attack you first. See what YAHSHUA said below concerning such situations.

Mathew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Can you now see which religion is peaceful? Moreover, did the people of north africa, spain and portugal attack middle east muslims before muslims decided to invade europe and north africa? NO

Jesus neva said u shud bless ur enemy when he is trying to kill u at all cost. If someone wants to kill u, u bless him shay?

aminusanti:

We? Another foolish man worshiper on it again
What fact did u present?

What fact? I laugh as I read this silly question of yours because it has no bearing on the thread. Did you answer the op? No
All you do is rigmarole and tried very hard to derail the thread. Your hypocrisy is out of this world

aminusanti:

you don't know what u are doing i bliv
remove that trinity nonsense from ur head then you will see what those verses are talking about
just look at how confuse you people are
So according to you jesus at that situation that satan tempt him knowing he is Yahweh by telling satan to go those verses are not for him right
may God save you people.. honestly ur belief is nothing but madness. in several verses jesus is telling u people he nothing but a messenger and he can't do nothing by his own will but u are here telling us something different

How about this?

And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son
John 14:13

I know you might say it was doctored but another question is why us it that whenever you don't agree with a verse the Bible is not accurate but you will quote a verse and give it your silly meaning?

felixomor:


Good.
Conclusion: Allah Caused Christianity to spread

Just like Idol Worship still reigns till today. Wud u den say God allowed d spread of idol worship

ibtz:


Just like Idol Worship still reigns till today. Wud u den say God allowed d spread of idol worship

Asfar as the discussion of this thread is concerned,

Asfar as That question by the op remains unanswered...

It is the conclusion.

ibtz:


Jesus neva said u shud bless ur enemy when he is trying to kill u at all cost. If someone wants to kill u, u bless him shay?

When Jesus was to be arrested, Peter cut the ears of one of the soldiers. What did Jesus do? He healed the soldier and allowed himself to be arrested. The fact that Muslims have been killing Christians for years and not once have we retaliated shows that indeed, we don't fight those trying to kill us.

aminusanti:

felixomor
Contradiction indeed! Anything that goes against ur understand u lebel it as contradiction whether u understand it or not. Anyways read below lets see who contradicting himself here



If you are still finding it hard to bliv jesus wasn't crucified lets do this:

¤ Quran said jesus did not died on the cross
¤ Bible said also jesus did not died on cross
¤ PAUL said jesus died on the cross

¤According to Quran

Surah 4, Verses 157 & 158:
Allah says in Qur'an that they neither killed him nor crucified him, but it was made to appear so unto them. In many places in Qur'an, it has been mentioned that Jews used to kill the prophets unjustly. But in the case of Jesus (pbuh) it vehemently denies that they killed him or that they crucified him. This is because Qur'an will not contain anything except truth.

¤According to Bible NT and OT
From the bible i will only provide you with few out of many proofs for easy reading
* No way would the verses below be valid if Christ got crucified.

Let us now take a look at Psalm 91:

(Please pay specially attention to Psalm 91:11-12, 15)
Psalm 91 and the ones with star

1 He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. [a]

2 I will say [b] of the LORD, "He is my refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust."

☆3 Surely he will save you from the fowler's snare and from the deadly pestilence.

☆4 He will cover you with his feathers, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.

☆5 You will not fear the terror of night, nor the arrow that flies by day,

6 nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness, nor the plague that destroys at midday.

7 A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, but it will not come near you.

☆8 You will only observe with your eyes and see the punishment of the wicked.

☆10 No harm (this includes crucifixion!) or disaster will even come near Christ (Psalm 91:10....this even contradicts him getting beaten up before crucifixion).

☆11-12 GOD Almighty will send down the Angels to protect him and lift him (Psalm 91:11-12, 14, Isaiah 52:13). Not even his foot will strike the ground from his enemies pushing, grappling and punishment.

☆15 Christ's call will be HEARD, and he will be delivered and honored (Psalm 91:15, Isaiah 52:13). No way would these verses be valid if Christ got crucified.

☆His life will be prolonged (extended) and he will live to even see his offspring (Isaiah 53:10 and Psalm 91:16, which by the way contradict Jesus never got married and had children.

NOTE: Psalm 91 is speaking as a number of Prophecies that WILL take place. Notice how the verses are speak of future events that WILL TAKE PLACE. Never once throughout the entire New Testament were the Angels sent to save Jesus from striking his foot against a rock. This, again, clearly proves that the NT is indeed false and corrupt.


According to noble Quran and the original writing of the disciples of jesus, jesus wasn't crucified and he watched the crucifixion of the doomed person.

Also according to the Apocalypse of Peter that was discovered in egypt, jesus sat on the tree and watched the crucified one getting crucified. Peter witnessed this and wrote the Apocalypse read (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnostic_Apocalypse_of_peter
Again Gospel of Basilides is against jesus dead on the cross.

For Jesus to be dead on the cross it means yahweh is a liar/deceiver. If u chose to go with paul then those verses above are nothing but empty promises by Yahweh

Above verse are some of the proofs from OT and if you want i can provide you alot of proofs from NT as well that will contradict this ur crucifiction nonsense even more

Provide proofs for ur claims

No Original available but the last tastament (The Quran) is there to show you how ur 4fathers corrupted d scriptures.

Proof pls. A simple link would do


Nope u are lying here
What am refering to was the begotten Son of God


I doubt much if u really knw about jewish culture
Most of the prophets of God were also called Sons of God b4 jesus, if in that case i have no issue with that


u don't know whats facts from all indication and what fact did u raise from all the rubbish u typed here ?

Did the Disciples of Jesus really die for the trinity and/or crucifixion lie?

After I replied you, I came on the thread to reply someone else and noticed you where viewing. I was happy. Because I actually thought you were replying me. But you didn't. First I want to thank you for your time. Like I said, you are teaching me and I am asking the questions. This is not an argument. First of, I want to correct your understanding of Psalm 91. One thing people fail to understand is that Jesus was not God on earth. He was a man. He was born of a woman, he was hungry, he got tired, he felt pain, etc. He was 100 percent a man. Why? You might ask. He didn't come on earth to intimidate us with his "Godness". He came to show us how we ought to live as humans. So how can God come on earth as a human I hear u ask? Is there actually anything God cannot do? As a Muslim. I ask u, is it possible for Allah to come to earth as human? Yes? Good. After all he appeared to Moses as burning bush. Why do you people think it is absurd for God to come on earth as man. Now let us not even talk about the Trinity, cuz that is a discussion for another day. You can start a thread on that and I will comment. Now the passage you quoted in Psalms was talking about us. Humans! The devil quoted that passage because he knew Jesus was God in flesh. Now let us talk about your "son of God" statement. Did you notice Jesus referred to himself as "Son of man"? This might shock you, but in Jewish custom, Son of God was nothing divine. Son of man on the other hand was a divine term. Proof? I will show you. Daniel 7: 13 and 14. “I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a son of man, and he came to the Ancient of Days and was presented before him. And to him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him; his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom one that shall not be destroyed.” now compare this verse to mark 14: 61 and 62.
61] But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?

[62] And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Go back to Daniel and notice that the reverence ascribed to the son of man was one ascribed only to God. Only to God. And Jesus just called himself the son of man. And he called himself the son of man many other times across the four Gospels.
Now if you continue reading mark 14, you will notice that after Jesus made that statement, the high priest tore his clothes in anger. Why? The high priest knew Jesus was referring to himself what Daniel saw in Daniel chapter 7. And that is what they killed him because he called himself God.
But the funny thing is, you still haven't answered my questions. In case you missed them let me spell them out for you in simple terms.
1. Since Allah deceived the killers of Jesus that he died when he didn't, did he also deceive his followers? If no, then why did they preach that he died? If yes, doesn't that mean Allah started Christianity?
2. If the desciples actually knew he didn't die, then how come a false prophet like Paul(one man) overpowered the teachings of both Christ and his followers. But if they actually thought that he died, then doesn't that mean Jesus was a failure? And that the desciples he picked couldn't complete his Job when he promised them "greater things you shall accomplish ".
Teach Mr please. I am listening.

rhektor:




What fact? I laugh as I read this silly question of yours because it has no bearing on the thread. Did you answer the op? No
All you do is rigmarole and tried very hard to derail the thread. Your hypocrisy is out of this world

pls face front and stop quoting me. Am not here for all dis nonsense talk. if u yhink I didnt answer d op then look for some1 to provide with d satisfactory answer pls. Bye

ilynem:

After I replied you, I came on the thread to reply someone else and noticed you where viewing. I was happy. Because I actually thought you were replying me. But you didn't. First I want to thank you for your time. Like I said, you are teaching me and I am asking the questions. This is not an argument. First of, I want to correct your understanding of Psalm 91. One thing people fail to understand is that Jesus was not God on earth. He was a man. He was born of a woman, he was hungry, he got tired, he felt pain, etc. He was 100 percent a man. Why? You might ask. He didn't come on earth to intimidate us with his "Godness". He came to show us how we ought to live as humans. So how can God come on earth as a human I hear u ask? Is there actually anything God cannot do? As a Muslim. I ask u, is it possible for Allah to come to earth as human? Yes? Good. After all he appeared to Moses as burning bush. Why do you people think it is absurd for God to come on earth as man. Now let us not even talk about the Trinity, cuz that is a discussion for another day. You can start a thread on that and I will comment. Now the passage you quoted in Psalms was talking about us. Humans! The devil quoted that passage because he knew Jesus was God in flesh. Now let us talk about your "son of God" statement. Did you notice Jesus referred to himself as "Son of man"? This might shock you, but in Jewish custom, Son of God was nothing divine. Son of man on the other hand was a divine term. Proof? I will show you. Daniel 7: 13 and 14. “I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a son of man, and he came to the Ancient of Days and was presented before him. And to him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him; his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom one that shall not be destroyed.” now compare this verse to mark 14: 61 and 62.
61] But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?

[62] And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Go back to Daniel and notice that the reverence ascribed to the son of man was one ascribed only to God. Only to God. And Jesus just called himself the son of man. And he called himself the son of man many other times across the four Gospels.
Now if you continue reading mark 14, you will notice that after Jesus made that statement, the high priest tore his clothes in anger. Why? The high priest knew Jesus was referring to himself what Daniel saw in Daniel chapter 7. And that is what they killed him because he called himself God.
But the funny thing is, you still haven't answered my questions. In case you missed them let me spell them out for you in simple terms.
1. Since Allah deceived the killers of Jesus that he died when he didn't, did he also deceive his followers? If no, then why did they preach that he died? If yes, doesn't that mean Allah started Christianity?
2. If the desciples actually knew he didn't die, then how come a false prophet like Paul(one man) overpowered the teachings of both Christ and his followers. But if they actually thought that he died, then doesn't that mean Jesus was a failure? And that the desciples he picked couldn't complete his Job when he promised them "greater things you shall accomplish ".
Teach Mr please. I am listening.

Sorry for my lateness. I ll be replying all ur post shortly, I have started replying ur queries but I stopped due to ur lengthy queries