Binb:


God does what he wills. He does not have to give you or any body else a reason for His actions.
Do you have a problem with that?

aminusanti:

Ok now that u have them u can summarize them and prove me wrong as u are claiming? again u are only deceiving yourself if u think u can hide under alBHAGDAdi umbrella thinking I have said nothing to prove u wrong just don't worry I don't care about you guys judgment on this bcus I never expect honest answer to come out from you people, sincere reader will do the judgment for themselves, pple reading are not stupid.

Binb:


God does what he wills. He does not have to give you or any body else a reason for His actions.
Do you have a problem with that?

ilynem:

So you won't answer my question because apparently I have Christian friends. Wow. And by the way, I just knew all of them on this thread. Just so you know, for every question you answer, two more spring up. Didn't want to start bringing them up because I was going somewhere. But if you feel you can't answer them anymore, that's OK. Like I said, I do not know why Jesus disguised as a Gardner. I didn't even know he disguised as one.

Empiree:
That's it.

Watch this 2 mins video on the first day of Trump in office, they are harassing Muslims in front t mosque.

They are liars. I hate it when you show them facts but they still want to be dumb.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Je_vdHiPX0

alBHAGDADI:
Pls, what has Trump issue got to do with this questions raised by the OP which you are yet to answer?

Addressing your video, what they are doing in front of the mosque is a little compared to what Christians and churches face everyday in the hands of muslims in Islamic countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt etc, where Christians are getting beheaded just cos they converted from Islam or they held a Christian house fellowship.

Something you can't take in your own region, you demand when in someone else's region.

ilynem:
Before I start, I want to say I am a Christian. And also I want to plead that this thread is not intended to spread vile or religious war between nairalanders as I just want a sincere and honest answer from our Muslim brothers and sisters.
I have the Quaran in my phone because I am a man who loves to search for the truth. So in Surah Chapter 4, it was stated that Jesus didn't die, instead it was made to look like he did and Allah took him. So Allah made it to look like he was killed but he wasn't really killed. Now looking at this, it is just a simple statement but the controversy lies with Jesus followers. Now Jesus followers went about spreading the news of His death and resurrection and I can only raise two conclusions from this.
1. Jesus followers knew he didn't die and decided to lie to that world that he did.
2. Jesus followers also believed he died and resurrected which means Allah also made them believe he died on the cross.
Now, number one is unlikely, because these followers were tortured and killed for their beliefs and not one of them decided to change his story. I wouldn't die for a lie and what did they stand to gain by lying? Liars make bad martyrs.
So this leaves us with option 2 which means Allah also made them believe Jesus died. And then they went around spreading a false message which they believed all because of Allah himself. So Allah's actions actually started the spread of the biggest belief system in the world. And He had to wait 600 years to correct this erroneous message through the prophet Muhammad.
This is not the only conclusion to that verse. This also means that Jesus in Islam was a monumental failure. What did he actually accomplish? His virgin birth, miracles and all was for nothing because his closest followers went around spreading a false message. This also questions Jesus judgement! He can form a bird from clay and make it come alive but can't choose followers to spread the right message?
Like I said, I don't intend to start any religious war, I just want a perfect explanation. Thank you.

alBHAGDADI:
I told you aminusanti has no answer. He never had any neither has he answered it in previous pages. His mission his to bore you with long epistle of irrelevancy just to detail the thread off course.

I hereby declare that Allah foolishly aided the rise of Christianity.

Thread close.

ilynem:

I don't. Honestly. But His actions actually made people think Jesus died. And when according you people, He showed himself to his followers to prove to them He didn't buy, people actually thought he had resurrected. Don't you think this supposed death and ressurection gave birth to Christianity?

Binb:


If Jesus showed his follwers that he did not die, by eating food , and they still believed he resurrected, then that is their problem

Empiree:
the video is headsup. Just happened yesterday. So now, how did God gave birth to Jesus?

ilynem:

Lol. That is the most likely conclusion.

alBHAGDADI:
Look at how big the mosque is. Can you even show me a picture of a church in saudi arabia?

twozero:

My guy, I bin following this thread of yours from da first page
I can't lie u, your dishonesty on your debate with aminsamtri is as clear as day.
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1- you ask him questions but he cant ask back??
[quote author=twozero post=53052415]
2- you said you sincerely want to know but you go back behind his back and say something different
3-U only want brief answers
4- you never answer his questions he ask u
5- he highlighted contradicting verses from your book which u couldn't repute but you are now saying he didn't answer your questions..
You guys are not sincerely here for what you are asking for. that's all I see

felixomor:


I only pointed out your own hypocrisy...

twozero:

My guy, I bin following this thread of yours from da first page
I can't lie u, your dishonesty on your debate with aminsamtri is as clear as day.

twozero:

1- you ask him questions but he cant ask back??

twozero:

2- you said you sincerely want to know but you go back behind his back and say something different

twozero:

3-U only want brief answers

twozero:

4- you never answer his questions he ask u

twozero:

5- he highlighted contradicting verses from your book which u couldn't repute but you are now saying he didn't answer your questions..
You guys are not sincerely here for what you are asking for. that's all I see

aminusanti:

sorry bro i have no attention to give anymore
can u now get away from here..

aminusanti:

sorry bro i have no attention to give anymore
can u now get away from here..

twozero:

My guy, I bin following this thread of yours from da first page
I can't lie u, your dishonesty on your debate with aminsamtri is as clear as day.
1- you ask him questions but he cant ask back??
2- you said you sincerely want to know but you go back behind his back and say something different
3-U only want brief answers
4- you never answer his questions he ask u
5- he highlighted contradicting verses from your book which u couldn't repute but you are now saying he didn't answer your questions..
You guys are not sincerely here for what you are asking for. that's all I see

aminusanti:

thanks bro. the evil in this man worshiper is not small theyre tricky n extremely hypocritic, am not new to them and their evil approaches to deceive people. as u can see there is neva a time that u can have a healthy debate/ discussion on NL without seeing those interrupters Albaghadi and his gang using their devilish approach to make sure that thread become useless which u will neva find our muslim brother behaving in such a way. Alhamdulillah..
being a good muslim one will be automatically humble.. pls pay no attention to these guys if u have something to do with ur time, there are alot of knowledgeable muslim brother here on NL that complete withdraw from attending to them and thats what exactly am about do.

Binb:


If Jesus showed his follwers that he did not die, by eating food , and they still believed he resurrected, then that is their problem

Binb:

There were many Messengers of God before Jesus. Each time their Messages get distorted/corrupted after them, God will send another Messenger to restore the original message of God. Isa is one of the Messengers of God, after him his message of strict monotheism was distorted, God then Sent the last Messenger Muhammad (peace be upon him) with the last message. Allah promised to guard this message (Qur'an 15:9) and He has kept His promise. We still have the Glorious Qur'an perfectly preserved for about fourteen centuries !

alBHAGDADI:
Look at how big the mosque is. Can you even show me a picture of a church in saudi arabia?

felixomor:


Abeg quiet and answer question.
Why did Allah disguise Jesus?

Empiree:
can u show me picture of a mosque in Vatican? .

Empiree:
to secure and protect him against jewish and christian terrorists who slandered him and wanted to kill him

Empiree:
to secure and protect him against jewish and christian terrorists who slandered him and wanted to kill him

ilynem:

So you won't answer my question because apparently I have Christian friends.

Wow. And by the way, I just knew all of them on this thread. Just so you know, for every question you answer, two more spring up. Didn't want to start bringing them up because I was going somewhere.

But if you feel you can't answer them anymore, that's OK.
I neva hv problem answering ur queries but I hv problm when u deliberately start being dishonest
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Like I said, I do not know why Jesus disguised as a Gardner. I didn't even know he disguised as one.

ilynem:

Why does a simple debate have to end this way?

Come on. I see you as a friend now, whether we believe the same thing or not. I am actually putting efforts into this because I sincerely care about you and I want you to honestly weigh both arguments so you can decide for yourself. If you honestly put yourself in my shoes, you will see I am not being dishonest. I might be ignorant but definitely not dishonest. I sincerely believe everything I am saying to u.

felixomor:


Then Allah caused Christian to spread.
Period....
Allah is the author of Christianity...