WellEndowed:
^^^This

youngestland:


What are you saying absolute rubbish........ you just wasted your time writting this please go back and read carefully again and bros we are not fighting

let me help you small because I dont know how to start I just tire

the man in usa will also have some major or minor expenses too he too will get married he will give birth to children he will also buy cars etc
And please I said let us peg the dollar at 200naira because no one knows what the value will be in 15 years time........and his salary will not remain 400k for 15years now and the same thing applies to the nurse in usa what kind of house will he buy with 120k dollars in usa ........quality of life I can agree with you sir

please people read and understand my calculation, very few people I see understand....
No one is even sure of his life for 15years anything can happen we are just saying
http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Registered_Nurse_(RN)/Hourly_Rate/b6142914/Entry-Level
thats the average salary for a fresh nurse and mr I am not a fool because I did this same calculation when I was 25 and I am not yet 40 I stay in my own built house and presently have another one going for tenants so by the time I am 40 I am too sure I would have passed the 42million mark...... I still changed cars o, and did some expenses. You guys dont know the power of saving and investing

Eruditor:


I called whoever made a decision based on the assumptions above a fool and if the shoe fit you, then you should wear it.

You said we should peg the dollar at N200? Why not N1 as that is what it was in the late 80s? Do you see how stoopid your assumption sounds? If you do not know what value the $ will be to the N then any sensible person will do what they call an extrapolation. They would not sit down with their tecno phone and conjure up rubbish figures just to score cheap points.

What kind of house will he buy with $120k? Go to google and do some research. His $120k house will be better than what people pay N75M for in Lekki phase 1. Apart from that, he would have the liberty of paying for that house through mortgage which will provide him more resource-space to do more things with his money.

Did you look at the link you posted up there? What is the average salary for a nurse? See, I don't want to sound harsh but you are leaving me no options. You have built your own house and have one for tenants. Where? In Iyanoba? Mushin? Ajegunle? Mowé? Berger? Those are the only places you would have done that and that is as good as a Frog thinking it is a wild animal. In other words, you are deceiving yourself that you are rolling high. You are just scrubbing a bucket- no offense.

But if your argument is that you are hushpupi or any other yahoo boy then you have a point. If you swindle some maga over in the US or Canada and get some foreign exchange you can build something, rent out and then tell people you saved for it while you where in your parent's house. People tell those confabulations even today.

You changed cars on 400k a month, Saving 300k out of it per month which totalled up to 18M and you built houses and made other expenses? Did you also turn water to wine, raise the dead and feed 5000 men (excluding women and children)?

Mr. YoungestLand, I would not be surprised if you claimed you did all these as well because anything is possible on the internet when you are lying.

Eruditor:


I called whoever made a decision based on the assumptions above a fool and if the shoe fit you, then you should wear it.

You said we should peg the dollar at N200? Why not N1 as that is what it was in the late 80s? Do you see how stoopid your assumption sounds? If you do not know what value the $ will be to the N then any sensible person will do what they call an extrapolation. They would not sit down with their tecno phone and conjure up rubbish figures just to score cheap points.

What kind of house will he buy with $120k? Go to google and do some research. His $120k house will be better than what people pay N75M for in Lekki phase 1. Apart from that, he would have the liberty of paying for that house through mortgage which will provide him more resource-space to do more things with his money.

Did you look at the link you posted up there? What is the average salary for a nurse? See, I don't want to sound harsh but you are leaving me no options. You have built your own house and have one for tenants. Where? In Iyanoba? Mushin? Ajegunle? Mowé? Berger? Those are the only places you would have done that and that is as good as a Frog thinking it is a wild animal. In other words, you are deceiving yourself that you are rolling high. You are just scrubbing a bucket- no offense.

But if your argument is that you are hushpupi or any other yahoo boy then you have a point. If you swindle some maga over in the US or Canada and get some foreign exchange you can build something, rent out and then tell people you saved for it while you where in your parent's house. People tell those confabulations even today.

You changed cars on 400k a month, Saving 300k out of it per month which totalled up to 18M and you built houses and made other expenses? Did you also turn water to wine, raise the dead and feed 5000 men (excluding women and children)?

Mr. YoungestLand, I would not be surprised if you claimed you did all these as well because anything is possible on the internet when you are lying.

youngestland:


I made my decision on this calculation and today I dont regret
you dont have to call me a fool because I did not do otherwise l dont know how to exchange abusive words with people so I wont go that way it just show how low one can be

when I made this calculation the dollar to naira was not even up to 150 so I used 200 just incase

please show me the kind of house I will get with 120kdollars

Please the link I posted didnt go above 37,000 dollars a year what made it more was overtime etc
like I said you dont read to understand or you would ask me to tell you how I could able to have a house in a good location in lagos with my income

let me give a clue so you go home and do the maths yourself
firtsly you dont know how many years I am right now, do you think I will still be on 400k in my job by now after all these years... there is no way I would have saved only 18million after 5 years even if I put that money every year in treasury bills it will be more than 18milion after 5 years which I have worked more than 5 years now and my income is more than what I calculated then. Its stranged to you abi..... legal boy building in nigeria oga not all boys are extravagant and pls have you ever met a PERFECTIONIST with a die hard goal please I am one and let me tell you something if I get to 40 still in my job and I dont have something worth more than 40million I can commit suicide thats a perfectionist for you

Oga I am living witness I did it and anyone can do it legally if its strange to yo too bad

Babaelemu:
The only reason to leave a job of 400K per month should only be IF YOUR LIFE IS IN DANGER IN NIGERIA. At the age of 35 you are still willing to migrate and live your life for uncertainty. As a BLACK man and again a FOREIGNER in developed country (built by whites) If you like have PHD, PPD, BSC or whatever you call it you are still gonna have it very tough and you are still gonna prove yourself x3 for any position against the citizen and permanent resident.

At 35 with that income you should be thinking how to establish, create employment and give your family the best in life. Abroad drains energy physically and mentally from certification, to paper, to learning the culture (it takes years to adapt)

Abroad is not designed as a place to get everything easily it a place to live a simple and easy life and this takes lot of years working.

Fusion23:


hmmm you have a good point, but please do you live abroad ? the way you talk like you are so sure its not just black and white,
I think the most important thing is planning its sad for a bank manager in Nigeria to come abroad and work as a customer care that is downgrading,

But if you making 400K monthly in Nigeria and you are good , you might make like 3m naira here per month before tax,

so my advise is on the most important point you made , certainty or uncertainty so the person can plan very well and do a research on his chances, but what is certain is also quality of life for his children thou abroad is not roses at all.

We keep deceiving ourselves in Nigeria, I know quite a few people in this guys shoes that will end up spending over 10K dollars to give birth to a child in the USA just cause of the uncertainty of Nigeria. And am just shell shocked.

I dont even regret making the move thou am much younger and a lot of people i met older than this guy worked in bank for 7 years say the same

Alikote:
Poverty is a state of deprivation, lacking the usual or socially acceptable amount of money or material possessions.[1] The most common measure of poverty in the U.S. is the "poverty threshold" set by the U.S. government. This measure recognizes poverty as a lack of those goods and services commonly taken for granted by members of mainstream society.[2] The official threshold is adjusted for inflation using the consumer price index.

Most Americans will spend at least one year below the poverty line at some point between ages 25 and 75.[3] Poverty rates are persistently higher in rural and inner city parts of the country as compared to suburban areas.[4][5]

In 2015, 13.5% (43.1 million) Americans lived in poverty.[6] Starting in the 1930s, relative poverty rates have consistently exceeded those of other wealthy nations.[7] The lowest poverty rates are found in New Hampshire, Vermont, Minnesota and Nebraska, which have between 8.7% and 9.1% of their population living in poverty.[8]

In 2009 the number of people who were in poverty was approaching 1960s levels that led to the national War on Poverty.[9] In 2011 extreme poverty in the United States, meaning households living on less than $2 per day before government benefits, was double 1996 levels at 1.5 million households, including 2.8 million children.[10]

In 2012 the percentage of seniors living in poverty was 14% while 18% of children were.[11] The addition of Social Security benefits contributed more to reduce poverty than any other factor.[12]

Alikote:
43 million american are terribly broke too 2 dollar a day when guy they blow 3 dollar per meal for tasty fried kitchen for nijia why this 43 million no become nurses an earn 70 k

youngestland:


I made my decision on this calculation and today I dont regret
you dont have to call me a fool because I did not do otherwise l dont know how to exchange abusive words with people so I wont go that way it just show how low one can be

when I made this calculation the dollar to naira was not even up to 150 so I used 200 just incase

please show me the kind of house I will get with 120kdollars

Please the link I posted didnt go above 37,000 dollars a year what made it more was overtime etc
like I said you dont read to understand or you would ask me to tell you how I could able to have a house in a good location in lagos with my income

let me give a clue so you go home and do the maths yourself
firtsly you dont know how many years I am right now, do you think I will still be on 400k in my job by now after all these years... there is no way I would have saved only 18million after 5 years even if I put that money every year in treasury bills it will be more than 18milion after 5 years which I have worked more than 5 years now and my income is more than what I calculated then. Its stranged to you abi..... legal boy building in nigeria oga not all boys are extravagant and pls have you ever met a PERFECTIONIST with a die hard goal please I am one and let me tell you something if I get to 40 still in my job and I dont have something worth more than 40million I can commit suicide thats a perfectionist for you

Oga I am living witness I did it and anyone can do it legally if its strange to yo too bad

Eruditor:


You are just bloviating. A medical doctor in the US bought 2 plots of land in Royal Garden Estate in Ajah for 40M a plot in 2013. Today that same plot goes for 55M up. He is one of 4 Medical doctors I know from the US who purchased property from that same estate. How many Nigerian Doctors can afford it?

A friend of mine went to Uni of California Davies for her MBA. This was in 2012. By 2014 she was done and got a job with Amazon in the US. She lives in Silicon Valley and earns $120k+ a year. Last year she acquired a 4-bedroom condo close to Igbuefon (Lekki Phase 1 axis) for over 25M and she has rented it out. LOL. She is working on a property over in the US which she plans to rent out too and she would do this later in the year.

You have property? You earn 400k? LOL. Stop talking like a child. I can deluge this thread with stories of people I know over in US and Canada who came back and purchased properties that they have rented out and guess what? Most of them are borderline average in the US but seem to be giants in Nigeria because of the exchange rate.

Keep seeing life from one viewpoint and be arguing like you have it figured out. People who earn 1.5M a month in Shell and Total are still trying to relocate to Canada and someone earning 800k in 2021 thinks he is a big boy. It will shock him.

Eruditor:


You are just bloviating. A medical doctor in the US bought 2 plots of land in Royal Garden Estate in Ajah for 40M a plot in 2013. Today that same plot goes for 55M up. He is one of 4 Medical doctors I know from the US who purchased property from that same estate. How many Nigerian Doctors can afford it?

A friend of mine went to Uni of California Davies for her MBA. This was in 2012. By 2014 she was done and got a job with Amazon in the US. She lives in Silicon Valley and earns $120k+ a year. Last year she acquired a 4-bedroom condo close to Igbuefon (Lekki Phase 1 axis) for over 25M and she has rented it out. LOL. She is working on a property over in the US which she plans to rent out too and she would do this later in the year.

You have property? You earn 400k? LOL. Stop talking like a child. I can deluge this thread with stories of people I know over in US and Canada who came back and purchased properties that they have rented out and guess what? Most of them are borderline average in the US but seem to be giants in Nigeria because of the exchange rate.

Keep seeing life from one viewpoint and be arguing like you have it figured out. People who earn 1.5M a month in Shell and Total are still trying to relocate to Canada and someone earning 800k in 2021 thinks he is a big boy. It will shock him.

Babaelemu:
Yes I reside in south Africa, I migrated at the age of 21 and that was 8 years ago. I have friends all over the world and I really know what is up. Additional our problem in Nigeria is not corruption "IT OUR ORIENTATION AND IMAGINATION we really need to find a way to change that " THIS IS OUR HOME WE MUST BUILD IT AND DIE FOR IT"

Alikote:
43 million american are terribly broke too 2 dollar a day when guy they blow 3 dollar per meal for tasty fried kitchen for nijia why this 43 million no become nurses an earn 70 k

Eruditor:


You are just bloviating. A medical doctor in the US bought 2 plots of land in Royal Garden Estate in Ajah for 40M a plot in 2013. Today that same plot goes for 55M up. He is one of 4 Medical doctors I know from the US who purchased property from that same estate. How many Nigerian Doctors can afford it?

A friend of mine went to Uni of California Davies for her MBA. This was in 2012. By 2014 she was done and got a job with Amazon in the US. She lives in Silicon Valley and earns $120k+ a year. Last year she acquired a 4-bedroom condo close to Igbuefon (Lekki Phase 1 axis) for over 25M and she has rented it out. LOL. She is working on a property over in the US which she plans to rent out too and she would do this later in the year.

You have property? You earn 400k? LOL. Stop talking like a child. I can deluge this thread with stories of people I know over in US and Canada who came back and purchased properties that they have rented out and guess what? Most of them are borderline average in the US but seem to be giants in Nigeria because of the exchange rate.

Keep seeing life from one viewpoint and be arguing like you have it figured out. People who earn 1.5M a month in Shell and Total are still trying to relocate to Canada and someone earning 800k in 2021 thinks he is a big boy. It will shock him.

youngestland:


I laugh hard this guy still dont understand

how can you be comparing two of the highest paying jobs to my job
bros I know my level and I respect my self if I was a doctor in nigeria and I have that opportunity to move I will quickly move even if my salary is 800k in nigeria or if I am a science student I would have moved atleast with that I can look for one way to switch to one of the STEM courses in usa
imagine if I moved then do you know how many schools I will go to and years I will use to get this your high paying job

bros I am not a big boy atall I still find it hard to pay some bills, my inverter battaries don down I am loking for 200k to replace them its weighing me down is that what you call a big boy

if people with my course goes to usa they will need serious luck( I am an atheist I would have said god ) to be able to earn such high salary
bros lets stop story how many nigerians that left for usa 9 years ago and can say hes worth 100k dollars very very very few this means I am lucky and I made the right choice my own opinion and im happy thats the koko

Do you know the owners of the houses in lekki phase1 ikoyi vi etc 90% made their money in nigeria

and bros pls stop abusing we are debating not fighting it shows how pained you are that some people love the country you hate and theres no way my income will be 800k by 2021

maternal:


I have. They're not doing much. I guess stats don't mean much ? Nigerians I swear.

wyzoe:
Pidgin2 your reaction



Do you wonder why people are looking for an exit?

Eruditor:


I called whoever made a decision based on the assumptions above a fool and if the shoe fit you, then you should wear it.

You said we should peg the dollar at N200? Why not N1 as that is what it was in the late 80s? Do you see how stoopid your assumption sounds? If you do not know what value the $ will be to the N then any sensible person will do what they call an extrapolation. They would not sit down with their tecno phone and conjure up rubbish figures just to score cheap points.

What kind of house will he buy with $120k? Go to google and do some research. His $120k house will be better than what people pay N75M for in Lekki phase 1. Apart from that, he would have the liberty of paying for that house through mortgage which will provide him more resource-space to do more things with his money.

Did you look at the link you posted up there? What is the average salary for a nurse? See, I don't want to sound harsh but you are leaving me no options. You have built your own house and have one for tenants. Where? In Iyanoba? Mushin? Ajegunle? Mowé? Berger? Those are the only places you would have done that and that is as good as a Frog thinking it is a wild animal. In other words, you are deceiving yourself that you are rolling high. You are just scrubbing a bucket- no offense.

But if your argument is that you are hushpupi or any other yahoo boy then you have a point. If you swindle some maga over in the US or Canada and get some foreign exchange you can build something, rent out and then tell people you saved for it while you where in your parent's house. People tell those confabulations even today.

You changed cars on 400k a month, Saving 300k out of it per month which totalled up to 18M and you built houses and made other expenses? Did you also turn water to wine, raise the dead and feed 5000 men (excluding women and children)?

Mr. YoungestLand, I would not be surprised if you claimed you did all these as well because anything is possible on the internet when you are lying.

Babaelemu:
2014 to 2016 she could save 25 million naira under 2 years na so America easy reach?? Tell me more please.

Babaelemu:
2014 to 2016 she could save 25 million naira under 2 years na so America easy reach?? Tell me more please.

Ugosample:


How many Nigerians can actually do that?

And if you don't know, this recession has made MOST Nigerians worse off economically, so get it.

Pidgin2:


Why are you so pained, you sound like an illegal immigrant, full of regret. Does everyone reason like you? Someone is telling you that with N400K he built houses, with less than that both my parents own lands and houses (which brings income today) so what are you talking about.

With N300K per month God knows that I would be a house owner in 2 to 3 years (all things being equal) You don't know that some people are skilled at maximizing what they have? okay stay there and keep arguing with people who know the system more than you

Fusion23:


There is loan , the credit system abroad works well it is what we call gbese in Nigeria but it helps cos the interest is low,
now if she earns like 120K a year , her financial institution can lend her up to 250K or more and she pays back small small with reasonable interest.

Pidgin2:


Keep deceiving yourself, imagine saying Nigerians are not doing much here, honestly I pity you.

Babaelemu:
2014 to 2016 she could save 25 million naira under 2 years na so America easy reach?? Tell me more please.

maternal:


Funny, I've actually seen this. People who worked for Shell relocating their whole family to Canada through the skilled work program. I didn't have the patience but your post says everything I've been saying. The reality is a "big boy" in naija is not even on par with a common person here in Canada/US. Still can't believe this is even a discussion.

Eruditor:


Hope you know that 25M was about $60k in 2016. Keep acting surprised.

BTW she is a green card holder as we speak. Her company filed H1B for her and she got it.