Pastafarian:
Your write up while interesting and straight to the point commits the slippery slope fallacy

An2elect2:
I am against homosexuality, and every form of sexual perversion. If we don't love them up to the point of telling them God hates such abominable acts, then we don't really love them.

Always remember whose wrath is coming!

ilynem:

Can you elaborate sir?

ilynem:

But when we tell them, they call us homophobic or whatever name. Even the media portrays gay as being normal. Even in Nigeria. Do you know less than 4% of Americans are gay? But if you are conversant with American media you might be forced to think more than 50% of Americans are gay just because of the way the media pushes this act on our faces. This is the society we live in now.

Pastafarian:


the point of the write up is that allowing gay people to be open and stand for their rights might in consequence lead to incestuous people being given the same privileges down the line (slippery slope)

I think one doesn't necessarily lead to the other, there have been lots and lots of studies on homosexuality and most scientific studies found it not wrong and that some people are born that way

then again, a lot have been found to be wrong in incest

USA didn't just wake up one morning and allowed gay marriage, they did so after lots of research, questions, arguments and medical findings

ilynem:

I do not think there is any research that proves that people are born gay. Studies conducted have not been able to discover a single gene which is the direct curse of homosexuality. I believe upbringing and environment plays a huge part. Don't be fooled by what the media and movies show you sir.
And if everyone starts claiming to be born gay, I can also stand up and claim to be born to love animals (is there a name for this already) or love my sister and other forms of nonsense.

An2elect2:


Well if you love your life so much that you will let error prevail, you can just smile at them or urge them on. Maybe God would change His mind and character on the day of judgment and give you a pass!

The god of this world has only but a short time and he just can't keep his character in check. Just don't be neutral because "non-sided" is one of his marks

An2elect2:
I am against homosexuality, and every form of sexual perversion. If we don't love them up to the point of telling them God hates such abominable acts, then we don't really love them.

Always remember whose wrath is coming!

ilynem:

I do not think there is any research that proves that people are born gay. Studies conducted have not been able to discover a single gene which is the direct curse of homosexuality. I believe upbringing and environment plays a huge part. Don't be fooled by what the media and movies show you sir.
And if everyone starts claiming to be born gay, I can also stand up and claim to be born to love animals (is there a name for this already) or love my sister and other forms of nonsense.

Pastafarian:


and your reason(s) for being totally against it is that the Bible forbids it, right?

An2elect2:
No but isn't that enough reason!

Pastafarian:

animals can't give consent! so whatever sex they have is definitely non consensual

as for homosexuality, I'm no doctor/scientist but no one has been able to tell us what's really wrong with gay marriage, all we have is appealing to some holy books whose authenticity is always gonna be up for debate or a feeling of repulsion

ilynem:

I stand strongly against homosexuality as all Christians should. I am speaking about how the society tends to view them now. People like Brobisky (or whatever is his name) are now celebrities and news about them even gets to the front page of our beloved Nairaland. We as a people need to stand up against this abomination before it eats into our children.

CatfishBilly:

The causes of homosexuality are multifactorial, no one can pin point a single cause.
Animals have been shown to indulge in homosexual activities, I read about one today where female koalas indulge in lesbian orgies. That means homosexuality occurs naturally in our environment, it is not the most represented sexual orientation in the population, but it is not an anomaly. Just like saying people that have blood group AB negative are not natural since they are so few in the population.
Scientists though agree on one thing, homosexuality is not a choice.
Pick up a textbook on history of sexuality and sexual psychology, it's eye opening.
Wikipedia is a good start.

Pastafarian:

it is but I'm asking why are you against it if the Bible wasn't the reason? can you give any reason outside the bible why you're against it?

ilynem:

Animals can't give consent! Has that ever stopped us? Porn industries have girls sleep with dogs (I am not proud to say this but my inquisitive nature made me watch a few when I was younger). There are news everywhere that people now marry animals. What has the animal's consent has to do with anything?
Now let me redirect your question to you. What is wrong with incest marriage?

ilynem:

Animals engage in incest too. Is that normal? A dog can mate with its mother, is that normal?
If it is not a choice, how come people stop being gay? There are lots of cases where people actually stopped being gay. And how did it happen? By choice.

ilynem:

Animals can't give consent! Has that ever stopped us? Porn industries have girls sleep with dogs (I am not proud to say this but my inquisitive nature made me watch a few when I was younger). There are news everywhere that people now marry animals.
What has the animal's consent has to do with anything?

Now let me redirect your question to you. What is wrong with incest marriage?

An2elect2:
I've never been in support of any unnatural or abnormal behavior and I won't start now that I know better

CatfishBilly:

Bestiality is a crime in almost every country that I can think of. Animals can't give consent, so anyone having sex with animals is raping them, so that's a punishable offence.
Whoever shot that Indecency you watched is a criminal and is going straight to prison if caught.

As for why incest is wrong, this can help you https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbreeding
Read under genetic disorders if you can't read the whole thing.

CatfishBilly:

The causes of homosexuality are multifactorial, no one can pin point a single cause.
Animals have been shown to indulge in homosexual activities, I read about one today where female koalas indulge in lesbian orgies. That means homosexuality occurs naturally in our environment, it is not the most represented sexual orientation in the population, but it is not an anomaly. Just like saying people that have blood group AB negative are not natural since they are so few in the population.
Scientists though agree on one thing, homosexuality is not a choice.
Pick up a textbook on history of sexuality and sexual psychology, it's eye opening.
Wikipedia is a good start.

ilynem:

Sir, I will need you to read this. Just because animals can't say yes or no doesn't mean they can't give consent to sex.
http://www.onlinedebate.net/forums/showthread.php/14297-Animals-*can*-consent-to-sex
And as for the link you gave me, sorry to say this but I get turned off from reading when I see so many scientific words ( I am scientifically dull ). Wish that could be explained in the layman's terms.
Sorry for calling you "sir".

Pastafarian:

if you think about it, nothing is stopping anybody from doing anything, has bible stopped pastors from fornicating? did it stop Christians from being involved in the Holocaust? did it stop the church from being hugely responsible for the Rwandan genocide?

my point is that animals can't give consent and having sex with them is tantamount to "rape"; what is marriage? shouldn't it involve two consenting "animals"?, do you see me getting married to a brain dead hospitalised human as " marriage"?

there's a greater risk of bearing deformed offsprings

then again you haven't answered mine, you only answered with a question of your own, why is homosexuality wrong?

Amberon:
And i guess since there are some species of animals that kill their offsprings (eg cocks) then it is okay for humans to murder their children too. Homosexuality has not been proven to not be a choice sir. All that is just speculation.

Homosexuality has not and can never be natural. It is very very unnatural and is even a mental illness Just like transgerism. If only homosexuals existed then the Human race would be wiped out in 100 years. It is no coincidence that homosexuals are 70 times more predisposed to the HIV virus.

How long before people like you start accepting incest relationships. How long before people start marrying object, oh a woman already married the eiffel tower. How dare you even compare homosexuality to blood groups, seriously? Stop glorifying insanity.

CatfishBilly:

The same link you posted says dogs for example have the mental development of a 2-3 year old.
Do you expect someone with that mental capacity to give informed/implied consent to sexual advances?

As for incest, like pastafarian said, it's linked with numerous health and developmental anomalies that it's not even worth it.
Their are some disease conditions that are so rampant amongst Jews because of incest.