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Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by johnydon22(m): 10:07am On May 23, 2017
felixomor:

The bottle is not guilty, you are
I could replace the bottle with your teeth

Since you are natural
Can we say the injury is "natural"?

Yes or Nay

yes, its an effect of a natural cause. the only exception is that it is willful that is an inclusion of mimd..

I am still waiting
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by noobtheloser(m): 10:09am On May 23, 2017
felixomor:

The bottle is not guilty, you are
I could replace the bottle with your teeth

Since you are natural
Can we say the injury is "natural"?

Yes or Nay
Don't try to elude the topic. We're talking about diseases not injuries. Disease are natural.
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by felixomor: 10:13am On May 23, 2017
noobtheloser:

Stfu!
You no longer have substance
Next undecided

noobtheloser:

I've told you that smoking does affect unborn babies.
IGNORANCE

noobtheloser:

But is smoking the only problem? What about healthy women that still give birth to children that have...say down syndrome.

Down syndrome just like any other disease can be caused by many human-influenced factors


noobtheloser:

Is that a result of smoking. Stop saying smoking, smoking, smoking as if that is that only cause of malformed babies.

I am using smoking as an example, because people like u are ignorant of the fact that humans influence a lot of diseases
Especially the ones u blame God for

noobtheloser:

If not for Ben Carson that was able to succefully separate conjoined twins, some people will say "it is because the woman smoked during gestation that is why her babies are malformed''
Out of point
Besides Ben Carson believes in God tongue

noobtheloser:

There are healthy people who still have unhealthy babies
How do you know their "healthy"?
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by felixomor: 10:14am On May 23, 2017
noobtheloser:
Don't try to elude the topic. We're talking about diseases not injuries. Disease are natural.

Yes or No
Please
I made a promise and I plan to stick
But u r not cooperating
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by felixomor: 10:16am On May 23, 2017
johnydon22:


yes, its an effect of a natural cause. the only exception is that it is willful that is an inclusion of mimd..

I am still waiting

Sorry, but you are wrong
The injury is not "natural"
So your theory that a "natural" animal only causes "natural" injury is flat Wrong
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by felixomor: 10:17am On May 23, 2017
OtemAtum:
undecided
Question again, is growth natural or not? It has cause, but according to you anything that has a cause is not natural. Even rainbow has a cause and it's still a natural phenomenon, so what the heck are you saying among the congregation of deep thinkers
Sorry bro
If u can't figure out MRNIGER
I can't discuss with you
Sorry mahn undecided
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by noobtheloser(m): 10:18am On May 23, 2017
felixomor:


Yes or No
Please
I made a promise and I plan to stick
But u r not cooperating
Injuries are results of natural causes. If I slip and fall while walking, I fell because of a natural cause(gravity) which is a law of nature. Now answer me this...are disease natural or not?
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by johnydon22(m): 10:19am On May 23, 2017
felixomor:


Sorry, but you are wrong
The injury is not "natural"
So your theory that a "natural" animal only causes "natural" injury is flat Wrong

Please i will not waste time here going over natural and unnatural injuries please answer my own questions as i have answered yours even though it was a digressing tactics.

Pathogens natural or not?

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Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by felixomor: 10:22am On May 23, 2017
noobtheloser:
Injuries are results of natural causes. If I slip and fall while walking, I fell because of a natural cause(gravity) which is a law of nature. Now answer me this...are disease natural or not?

@ bolded
LMAO, "Gravity"
grin

Well for your answer, there is nothing like natural disease.

Now, let me answer the person my mention was meant for
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by noobtheloser(m): 10:24am On May 23, 2017
felixomor:

You no longer have substance
Next undecided


IGNORANCE



Down syndrome just like any other disease can be caused by many human-influenced factors




I am using smoking as an example, because people like u are ignorant of the fact that humans influence a lot of diseases
Especially the ones u blame God for


Out of point
Besides Ben Carson believes in God tongue


How do you know their "healthy"?
Tests are run on pregnant women. Ben Carson did not sit idle or pray to god for healing. He didn't say diseases are a result of man's mistakes. Down syndrome is caused by non-disjuction which is totally natural. No human influenced factor involved in causality. Especially the ones I blame for god? Like bone cancer in children
What causes that? Man?
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by OtemAtum: 10:26am On May 23, 2017
felixomor:

Sorry bro
If u can't figure out MRNIGER
I can't discuss with you
Sorry mahn undecided

LOL, felix omogbehin is out of idea grin
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by felixomor: 10:26am On May 23, 2017
johnydon22:


Please i will not waste time here going over natural and unnatural injuries please answer my own questions as i have answered yours even though it was a digressing tactics.

Pathogens natural or not?
You have seen the slip ba
Now for your answer

Pathogens are natural just like you
How do they cause disease?
They attack cells causing cellular injury, just like you attacked the anecdotal man with your teeth because of food
So also they attack in search of their own benefit
and sometimes even alter the genes of the cell for their benefit.

So just as your injury because of food is not "natural" so also, the "pathogens" are also out for their benefit.
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by felixomor: 10:29am On May 23, 2017
noobtheloser:
Tests are run on pregnant women

Have u seen any test with 100% sensitivity and Specificity for detecting disease?
If there was people wont suddenly "drop dead"(as it happens sometimes)
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by johnydon22(m): 10:30am On May 23, 2017
felixomor:

You have seen the slip ba
Now for your answer

Pathogens are natural just like you
How do they cause disease?
They attack cells causing cellular injury, just like you attacked the anecdotal man with your teeth because of food
So also they attack in search of their own benefit
and sometimes even alter the genes of the cell for their benefit.

So just as your injury because of food is not "natural" so also, the "pathogens" are also out for their benefit.

I understand the point you are trying to make perfectly well..

So now basal cell and squamous cell skin cancer caused by exposure to sun (radiation) natural or not?

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Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by OtemAtum: 10:31am On May 23, 2017
See plenty questions directed at Felixomor, just because he did not apply his brain well before talking.

Now those who use their brains critically are asking
1. Is pathogen natural or not?. 2. Is growth natural or not? 3.Is rainbow which is caused by refraction natural or not?
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by noobtheloser(m): 10:33am On May 23, 2017
felixomor:


Have u seen any test with 100% sensitivity and Specificity for detecting disease?
If there was people wont suddenly "drop dead"(as it happens sometimes)
I'm really wasting time on this. You're really dogged. You haven't answered my question still. If cancer or polio isn't natural then who caused it?

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Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by Nobody: 10:34am On May 23, 2017
felixomor:


Sorry my sister
Sickle cell is not a "natural" disease", it has a cause
Zika also is a sexually transmitted infection, it has a cause

No disease is 'natural"
First, what is disease then we continue from what is natural. Finally terminating in "NATURAL DISEASE"
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by felixomor: 10:34am On May 23, 2017
OtemAtum:
See plenty questions directed at Felixomor, just because he did not apply his brain well before talking.

Now those who use their brains critically are asking
1. Is pathogen natural or not?. 2. Is growth natural or not? 3.Is rainbow which is caused by refraction natural or not?

Keep deceiving yourself
Ordinary JSS1 biology you don't know
LMAO grin
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by OtemAtum: 10:35am On May 23, 2017
felixomor:


Keep deceiving yourself
Ordinary JSS1 biology you don't know
LMAO grin

You haven't answered the questioned put forward, is rainbow a natural phenomenon or not?

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Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by johnydon22(m): 10:35am On May 23, 2017
OtemAtum:
See plenty questions directed at Felixomor, just because he did not apply his brain well before talking.

Now those who use their brains critically are asking
1. Is pathogen natural or not?. 2. Is growth natural or not? 3.Is rainbow which is caused by refraction natural or not?
feliximor in a way have a point, arguable.

From his argument, diseases are effects of natural survival tussle between species -which partly is true.

the mistake therein is attributing every disease to this interwoven collision of fate.
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by Nobody: 10:35am On May 23, 2017
johnydon22:


this is incorrect, everything has a cause and cannot be said to be unnatural, if that is so then the sun is unnatural, the earth is not natural, as a matter then the universe is not natural because all these things are at one point effects of a cause.

Causality is not an exempting factor of nature but rather a tool of nature.

and this pathology is spiritual and not natural i guess?

Causality is not same as unnatural since even the causes themselves are natural agents.
Ewwwwww... I think I need to step out.... Your Comments are enough to educate Dr Felix Abeg.......

Kudos bro.

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Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by felixomor: 10:36am On May 23, 2017
johnydon22:


I understand the point you are trying to make perfectly well..

So now basal cell and squamous cell skin cancer caused by exposure to sun (radiation) natural or not?

My bro, there is basal cell cancer in people who are not exposed to sunlight o
I hope u know?
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by felixomor: 10:37am On May 23, 2017
johnydon22:
feliximor in a way have a point, arguable.

From his argument, diseases are effects of natural survival tussle between species -which partly is true.

the mistake therein is attributing every disease to this interwoven collision of fate.

THUMBS UP FOR THIS HONEST ADMISSION
OtemAtum, Go and sleep grin
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by Nobody: 10:38am On May 23, 2017
johnydon22:


Both Physics and pathology are within the scope of Natural sciences, and i ask again: These pathogens that causes diseases are they spiritual or natural ?
Damn, you're killing the Dr ooo
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by felixomor: 10:38am On May 23, 2017
noobtheloser:
I'm really wasting time on this. You're really dogged. You haven't answered my question still. If cancer or polio isn't natural then who caused it?

Have u heard of "Carcinogens" before?
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by OtemAtum: 10:39am On May 23, 2017
johnydon22:
feliximor in a way have a point, arguable.

From his argument, diseases are effects of natural survival tussle between species -which partly is true.

the mistake therein is attributing every disease to this interwoven collision of fate.

I'm not even looking at the disease aspect, but at his careless statement that 'anything that has a cause is not natural'. But I know that rainbow is caused by the refraction of light from the sun, so is rainbow which has a cause an unnatural phenomenon?
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by johnydon22(m): 10:40am On May 23, 2017
felixomor:


My bro, there is basal cell cancer in people who are not exposed to sunlight o
I hope u know?

This still doesn't answer the question: Basal cell can be damaged through several other means but it is a fact that the main cause for basal cell damage is exposure to ultra violet light (radiation) - this is still not the problem here.

The question i asked was: are these instances as a result of radiation, natural or not.

i am going to have faith that you will give a straight honest answer this time
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by OtemAtum: 10:41am On May 23, 2017
felixomor:


THUMBS UP FOR THIS HONEST ADMISSION
OtemAtum, Go and sleep grin

Of course you know the angle where I came from and you haven't answered yet because you don't have a leeway. The question again is, IS RAINBOW A NATURAL PHENOMENON OR NOT? Have in mind that rainbow has a cause but you said that whatever has a cause is not natural.
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by noobtheloser(m): 10:41am On May 23, 2017
felixomor:


Sorry my sister
Sickle cell is not a "natural" disease", it has a cause
Zika also is a sexually transmitted infection, it has a cause

No disease is 'natural"
This proves that you don't know the meaning of natural. Because something has a cause, doesn't mean it's artificial. Growth is natural. It has a cause. Rainfall, rainbows, sunlight, they're all natural yet they have causes so this is a non sequitur
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by jonbellion(m): 10:43am On May 23, 2017
Born2Freak:


No disease is natural?

The most foolish statement of the year and we have not even reached the middle of the year.


Cc jonbellion, Hahn, johnydon22, plaetton, kingebukasblog, jackbizzle, hardmirror, deepsight.



grin felixomor aren't you supposed to be a doctor?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by Nobody: 10:44am On May 23, 2017
noobtheloser:
Injuries are results of natural causes. If I slip and fall while walking, I fell because of a natural cause(gravity) which is a law of nature. Now answer me this...are disease natural or not?
Your head correct... All I see is Felix dodging question for questions.... Everyone has replied his question, he's yet to respond to a question from the other dudes...

Maybe spacetacular could help out. Dr CatbillyFish, what do you think
Re: God Is Dead. The Real Truth by felixomor: 10:44am On May 23, 2017
johnydon22:


This still doesn't answer the question: Basal cell can be damaged through several other means but it is a fact that the main cause for basal cell damage is exposure to ultra violet light - this is still not the problem here.

The question i asked was: are these instances as a result of radiation, natural or not.

i am going to have faith that you will give a straight honest answer this time

Sorry bro.
I don't know where u get your facts from
But Cancer as a whole is far from being established in any sense of study
It remains as bogus as I can express

That aside. If u expose yourself to the sun excessively and u get burnt, or get Skin cancer as a result
I don't see that as natural o.
Its as good as jumping in fire

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