A40:

I'm showing you how inconsistent these awards can be. Voting is done by the media

Good defenders won a defensive award and you're kicking why? I guess when jeffrey wins mvp the media won it for him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esc0Ak9Jb90

That is the G.O.A.T doing work on ball D and off the ball. Can you count how many bigs? The G.O.A.T was only 6'6

Lol! Thats different, everyone knows jordan was great at steals and in some cases blocks but he is not physically capable of handling who lebron can handle.

Lockdown anybody? Negro pls he couldn't lockdown Jason Terry

Yeah right....

Only that he couldn't. Spo had to take Bron off West after Game 1 just to salvage the series. After West shot 100% on him

Which game was this?

He was 36. His career already ended

Nope, that was the nail on his coffin...

SIRcumalot:

you no dey rest sha ?

the nba as changed since jordan time.

Indeed it has, its not a cake walk anymore.

Donlittle:
bruh he lost the series 4 - 1

That's the teams result.

He averaged a triple double and dunked on KD's face. He'll be fine.

SIRcumalot:

am just seeing this video.
you must've forgotten cause we worried alot about the cavs defence on this thread.go back and check.

I remember. Just posted this video to prove those who kept claiming Bron was over working and needed support instead of the team playing Defense.

Ersan:

Indeed it has, its not a cake walk anymore.

fair.

..

Ersan:

Their record fell they year he won. They werent as dominant or effective as they used to be. As a team reliant on physical play they werent the same. Like you said, they never recovered.

And I'm sitting here wondering how any of that is the G.O.A.T's fault. They got to 3 straight Finals so they were a great team. They weren't old so you can't even use their age as an excuse

Ersan:

Exactly, and he never was able to do anything against them, why hold lebron losing to great teams against him?

He eventually did. That's what counts

Ersan:


The GOAT in his prime shifted the balance of power to his conference. Celtics, Pistons were multiple title winning teams in contention in the East. Tell us what has been LeBald's competition coming out of the East?
Because you said this, the balance of power was never in the wests favor to begin with.

Maintained the status quo. Either way what is bleeding obvious is the competition was tougher in the East so your first round argument falls flat on its a$s

Ersan:

Lol! if lebron wasnt there these are the teams that would make finals appearances.

And woulda promptly gotten bounced by any Western team

Ersan:

The bulls had the best record in the East. The miami heat were talented but were still finding their stride.

Good. Golden State with the inclusion of K.D, West, Pachulia were still finding their stride. Still won 4-1

Ersan:

No one in his right mind would call that team a cake walk, regardless of their age.

Are you joking? Not 1 but 3 core players over 34. Lmaoo

Ersan:

Thats you. His aesthetics are none of your business.

What is your business with The G.O.A.T's gambling? Is he betting with your money?

Ersan:

Well the lakers have a lot of cards in their hands, its his hometown, its a new challenger. Its better than losing to Lebron.

The Lakers? A challenger? Lmao! That roster is at least 2 years from being a playoff team if they are lucky. You are in La La land if you think Paul George's addition automatically makes them a factor in the Wild Wild West. L.A >>> Naptown. Get over yourself bro everything ain't about LeBald

Ersan:

Lol! Thats different, everyone knows jordan was great at steals and in some cases blocks but he is not physically capable of handling who lebron can handle.

Nonsense. You people need to understand defense goes beyond size. There is no player Bron guarded that the G.O.A.T couldn't, the G.O.A.T knew the fundamentals. Bron is simply athletic and good at helping

Ersan:

Yeah right....

How many bigs can you count in that video? Make no mistake the G.O.A.T could do it all! Even the triple doubles. He just didn't have to

Ersan:

Which game was this?

2014 ECF

Ersan:

Nope, that was the nail on his coffin...

Shame on LeBald for getting called out and sonned by a 34 year old in the NBA Finals.

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/11/24/7274911/nba-conference-record-standings-imbalance

Old article but highlights the point. The East is shyte. LeBald does not sniff even 4 Finals in the West

Shake 'em off

SmooshCHN:
Manutd19, Eruditor, A40, Donlittle, Lolawilliams, Birdman, Skywalker5, Roland17, Ersan, Muna15, Sircumalot
Take your time to check this video.. This has been the problem of the Cavs from the beginning. And we some of us here kept mentioning it but y'all didn't agree. Y'all so good offensively with Bron and Kyrie what about the fundamentals of Defense. Lemme keep quiet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32zgkcybr-A

If you read back, you'd see i also complained about the lack of defense Cavs were showing. And i believed our defense was poor in the finals. Even with the lack of bench scoring, Cavs chances during the Finals could’ve been less grim if they defended up to the challenge of the Warriors, or even if they defended at average.

Enjoy your Champ. me sef they enjoy our one year anniversary, June 19th 2016 remains one of the greatest moment in my life.

Bring the whole Cavs to the West tho.

1st round

lolawilliams:


If you read back, you'd see i also complained about the lack of defense Cavs were showing. And i believed our defense was poor in the finals. Even with the lack of bench scoring, Cavs chances during the Finals could’ve been less grim if they defended up to the challenge of the Warriors, or even if they defended at average.

Enjoy your Champ. me sef they enjoy our one year anniversary, June 19th 2016 remains one of the greatest moment in my life.

June 19, 2016 right?

1 year later, the burial we organized was definitely a Quickie.

SmooshCHN:
Bring the whole Cavs to the West tho.

1st round

Tell me the team that's going to beat them in the first round. Only warriors and maybe spurs are capable. Matchmaking doesn't work that way.

LeBron doesn't lose first rounds, only Jeffrey does.

Ersan:


Tell me the team that's going to beat them in the first round. Only warriors and maybe spurs are capable. Matchmaking doesn't work that way.

LeBron doesn't lose first rounds, only Jeffrey does.

Utah Jazz, Clippers, Rockets, Warriors, Spurs. You didn't win the regular season match up with these guys except tied with Warriors. (Miss me with that "It's just a regular season game) And there's no way you're making it top 5 in the West with that defense. Once again, 1st round, 2 round if you manage to make it past Rockets/Clippers in 7

Only one so called goat makes 8pt in a finals Game. The GOAT is 6-0 and 100%..

TAKE THAT FOR DATA!!!

Una go just make person dey disrespect Bron Bron.

A40:

Nonsense. You people need to understand defense goes beyond size. There is no player Bron guarded that the G.O.A.T couldn't, the G.O.A.T knew the fundamentals. Bron is simply athletic and good at helping

Nope. You can't have 6'6 Jordan at the post marking a 7 footer. Once a good passer spots the mismatch he'll just pass over him for an easy bucket. Size has a lot to the with it.

LeBron, the greatest basketball mind to grace the court doesn't know the fundamentals of defence? You may fault his execution but don't fault this man's knowledge.

How many bigs can you count in that video? Make no mistake the G.O.A.T could do it all! Even the triple doubles. He just didn't have to

Guarding and stopping are different things. Jordan can't handle hour dimes or collect boards like LeBron can. He's attack minded.

LeBron like he always explains is a true triple threat. A combination of all time greats. Put the mailman, magic, Jeffrey and a little Shaq in one person. That's the greatness that is LeBron.

2014 ECF

West averaged 16 a game. He was bigger and stronger. LeBron admitted guarding him had a toll on him. But I think his goal was just to stay with him rather than lock him down because it will wear him down on the offensive end.

Shame on LeBald for getting called out and sonned by a 34 year old in the NBA Finals.

He got his revenge. No one will forget that dunk, everyone hates Jason Terry.

SmooshCHN:
Una go just make person dey disrespect Bron Bron.

Who cares about your disrespect small fry?

SmooshCHN:
Only one so called goat makes 8pt in a finals Game. The GOAT is 6-0 and 100%..

TAKE THAT FOR DATA!!!

against bums. Jeffrey was a flat track bully. Fact!

SmooshCHN:
Utah Jazz, Clippers, Rockets, Warriors, Spurs. You didn't win the regular season match up with these guys except tied with Warriors. (Miss me with that "It's just a regular season game) And there's no way you're making it top 5 in the West with that defense. Once again, 1st round, 2 round if you manage to make it past Rockets/Clippers in 7

It's just a regular season game. Celtics beat the warriors, tell me it'll happen again in the playoffs.

A40:

And I'm sitting here wondering how any of that is the G.O.A.T's fault. They got to 3 straight Finals so they were a great team. They weren't old so you can't even use their age as an excuse

None.

I can use their age as an excuse. Dynasties fall Mr A.

He eventually did. That's what counts

After they aged, wilted and dismantled. That's what counts.

Maintained the status quo. Either way what is bleeding obvious is the competition was tougher in the East so your first round argument falls flat on its a$s

LeBrons finals competition is tougher so your 6-0 argument is poppycock!

And woulda promptly gotten bounced by any Western team

I disagree.

Good. Golden State with the inclusion of K.D, West, Pachulia were still finding their stride. Still won 4-1

Nope. KD fit in faster and better than anyone ever projected. And they were already a 73 win team.

Are you joking? Not 1 but 3 core players over 34. Lmaoo

3 legends over 34. At that age, in that year. No one slept on them.

What is your business with The G.O.A.T's gambling? Is he betting with your money?

LeBron can't help if he's bald. Aesthetics don't define a man. Jeffrey chose to be a gambler and a coon. I can never respect that.

The Lakers? A challenger? Lmao! That roster is at least 2 years from being a playoff team if they are lucky. You are in La La land if you think Paul George's addition automatically makes them a factor in the Wild Wild West. L.A >>> Naptown. Get over yourself bro everything ain't about LeBald

Typo. Meant to say a new challenge. With magic at the helm of affairs good things are to come.

Everything know the NBA is about the king because the king is the NBA.

Warriors win NBA title, Headlines: LeBron loses NBA finals.

GOAT standards.

Ersan:

None.

I can use their age as an excuse. Dynasties fall Mr A.

Good luck.

Joe Dumars - 28
Isiah Thomas - 30
Mark Aguirre - 31
Dennis Rodman - 30

The G.O.A.T won his last title at 35 and was still the best player in the league. They have no excuse

Ersan:

After they aged, wilted and dismantled. That's what counts.

I repeat


The G.O.A.T won his last title at 35 and was still the best player in the league. They have no excuse

Ersan:

LeBrons finals competition is tougher so your 6-0 argument is poppycock!

He had enough talent to avoid defeat in 3 of those 5 L's. You just dey yarn megedefegede walahi taiahi

Ersan:

Nope. KD fit in faster and better than anyone ever projected. And they were already a 73 win team.

We've seen 67 win teams lose in the first round. This 73 win argument is tired. The Heat were the most loaded team in the league. FACT

Ersan:

3 legends over 34. At that age, in that year. No one slept on them.

34, 35, 36. With 1000's of mileage on their creaky bones. Allen and K.G were in their 16th year in the league. 16!!

Everybody can't be like the G.O.A.T that still did it at 35. He's the exception not the norm

Ersan:

LeBron can't help if he's bald. Aesthetics don't define a man. Jeffrey chose to be a gambler and a coon. I can never respect that.

Lmao who your respect epp? I don't care for you nitpicking brehh. We all got our vices. The G.O.A.T's vices has not affected anybody's means of livelihood or broken any laws

Ersan:
Typo. Meant to say a new challenge. With magic at the helm of affairs good things are to come.

Not in 2 years. We would see I like Magic

Ersan:

Everything know the NBA is about the king because the king is the NBA.

Warriors win NBA title, Headlines: LeBron loses NBA finals.

GOAT standards.

Thanks to paid Lebtards like Nick Wright, Shannon Sharpe and the casual fans who won't praise the Man who was the best player in the series Kevin Durant

Ersan:

Nope. You can't have 6'6 Jordan at the post marking a 7 footer. Once a good passer spots the mismatch he'll just pass over him for an easy bucket. Size has a lot to the with it.

I have proven to you that the G.O.A.T could do it in spurts and out of necessity if need be, defense is mostly mind over matter that is why Ben Wallace and Dennis Rodman at 6'7-6'8 could render Shaq completely useless

Ersan:
LeBron, the greatest basketball mind to grace the court doesn't know the fundamentals of defence? You may fault his execution but don't fault this man's knowledge.

Lmao. Bron is a help defender! You would see how useless he becomes when his athleticism leaves him and he can't make those weakside plays no more

Ersan:

Guarding and stopping are different things. Jordan can't handle hour dimes or collect boards like LeBron can. He's attack minded.

LeBald did not stop anybody either. Klay played good D doesn't mean he stopped Kyrie. The G.O.A.T's numbers were above average for his position. Under Phil emphasis is not on assists go and check his title teams. B.J Armstrong, Ron Harper, Derrick Fisher were the PGs and nobody dominating assists in all 11 titles he won

Ersan:

LeBron like he always explains is a true triple threat. A combination of all time greats. Put the mailman, magic, Jeffrey and a little Shaq in one person. That's the greatness that is LeBron.

That is another reason he is not the G.O.A.T. The G.O.A.T is not like anybody! Think about it! There is nobody saying his game is like this and that. He made his own lane

Ersan:

West averaged 16 a game. He was bigger and stronger. LeBron admitted guarding him had a toll on him. But I think his goal was just to stay with him rather than lock him down because it will wear him down on the offensive end.

LeBald always has issues guarding ninjas his size. This is why we tell you he is a help defender. Na beg dem dey always beg am just to play at PF despite being built like a Center

Ersan:

He got his revenge. No one will forget that dunk, everyone hates Jason Terry.

Newsflash: Nobody cares! Terry by then was a 36 y.o OAP averaging 5pts per game

BREAKING: CAVS, WOLVES AND SUNS ALL GOING IN FOR JIMMY BUTLER


I am only in support of this if it means we can still get paul george of if its because we have no chance of getting him.

Jimmy Butler another iso ninja? Lmaoo una go hear whinnnn

A40:

Good luck.

Joe Dumars - 28
Isiah Thomas - 30
Mark Aguirre - 31
Dennis Rodman - 30

Laimbeer? your goats nightmare?

Vinnie johnson? who by the way was waved after 1991.

James edwards traded in 1991.

Salley left in 1992.

Rodman in 1993

Isaiah thomas was injured in 1991 when the bulls won, swept the pistons BTW.

The G.O.A.T won his last title at 35 and was still the best player in the league. They have no excuse


I repeat


The G.O.A.T won his last title at 35 and was still the best player in the league. They have no excuse

Here we have the first instance of you contradicting your self.

He had enough talent to avoid defeat in 3 of those 5 L's. You just dey yarn megedefegede walahi taiahi

Only loss he could have avoided was Dallas.

We've seen 67 win teams lose in the first round. This 73 win argument is tired. The Heat were the most loaded team in the league. FACT

I STRONGLY DISAGREE!!!

34, 35, 36. With 1000's of mileage on their creaky bones. Allen and K.G were in their 16th year in the league. 16!!

Everybody can't be like the G.O.A.T that still did it at 35. He's the exception not the norm

Lol! They were exceptions too. If jeffrey was the best player in the league at 35 they too were a force.

Lmao who your respect epp? I don't care for you nitpicking brehh. We all got our vices. The G.O.A.T's vices has not affected anybody's means of livelihood or broken any laws

Nope, but his silence and inactivity has.

Not in 2 years. We would see I like Magic

Thanks to paid Lebtards like Nick Wright, Shannon Sharpe and the casual fans who won't praise the Man who was the best player in the series Kevin Durant

And bums like you that keep shouting 3-5. Dont transfer all the blame to someone. The first thing you did after warriors won was to call out cavs fans.

Sharpe and wright dont have half the influence bayless the lebron hater has. So its actually the haters not the supporters to blame.

A40:

I have proven to you that the G.O.A.T could do it in spurts and out of necessity if need be, defense is mostly mind over matter that is why Ben Wallace and Dennis Rodman at 6'7-6'8 could render Shaq completely useless

Lol! They had the reach and the build. Jordan is just not strong enough. Stop it with this funny argument about jordan guarding centers.

Lmao. Bron is a help defender! You would see how useless he becomes when his athleticism leaves him and he can't make those weakside plays no more

Lol! He will still have that brain. He will still have his passes. Lebron without his athleticism is still magic johnson.

LeBald did not stop anybody either. Klay played good D doesn't mean he stopped Kyrie. The G.O.A.T's numbers were above average for his position. Under Phil emphasis is not on assists go and check his title teams. B.J Armstrong, Ron Harper, Derrick Fisher were the PGs and nobody dominating assists in all 11 titles he won

You misunderstand me. Jordan stopped, he didn't guarding.

That is another reason he is not the G.O.A.T. The G.O.A.T is not like anybody! Think about it! There is nobody saying his game is like this and that. He made his own lane

So did magic. So did wilt, so did hakeem, so did shaq. Are they all goats?

LeBald always has issues guarding ninjas his size. This is why we tell you he is a help defender. Na beg dem dey always beg am just to play at PF despite being built like a Center

West was NOT his size. He was taller and stronger, Why waste your energy guarding west any way?

There is no player in the NBA he cant effectively guard if he wishes too. Except you know the players you just cant guard.

Newsflash: Nobody cares! Terry by then was a 36 y.o OAP averaging 5pts per game

Lol! BTW, Bron wasnt even guarding terry. Terry just loves to talk shieet! Heck he wasnt even a starter. And lebron was having a bad series then period. He choked, never denied that.

A40:
Jimmy Butler another iso ninja? Lmaoo una go hear whinnnn

I remember him indirectly hinting he wanted to play for the cavs. Saying he wanted to play with kyrie, then korver of all people another cav and tried to give some bs explanation for that to cover his tracks.

Personally i dont think hes who we need, especially if PG is the alternative.

Ersan:


I remember him indirectly hinting he wanted to play for the cavs. Saying he wanted to play with kyrie, the korver of all people another cav and tried to give some bs explanation for that to cover his tracks.

Personally i dont think hes who we need, especially if PG is the alternative.

As long as Lebald keeps forming super teams and stacking these all stars, i have no problems with KD, Curry and the Warriors winning consecutive titles until Bron retires.

Roland17:


As long as Lebald keeps forming super teams and stacking these all stars, i have no problems with KD, Curry and the Warriors winning consecutive titles until Bron retires.

If the bald one (what i'm calling him now cause hes the greatest bald athlete ever) has a stacked team, he wont lose.

Ersan:
BREAKING: CAVS, WOLVES AND SUNS ALL GOING IN FOR JIMMY BUTLER


I am only in support of this if it means we can still get paul george of if its because we have no chance of getting him.

I won't trade love for any of these guys.
if we can manage a one year rental of George without giving up love,i go like that well-well.