The chest pain can be treated with the right medication, but as for your dreams which reflects on your everyday life, I think you need to see a dedicated pastor that can see your pains even before you complain and help you pray over it and things will normalize for you. You can visit Joshua generation church in Abuja for counseling and prayers! You will be grateful to God you did! I once was in your shoes and I can feel your pains and today I am a living testimony! If it makes sense to you, Pm me

PrecisionFx:




Don't rebuke nature. It MUST take it's full course.

You are self contradictory, first you said it's health related, now you say nature.

I don't know what it is though, but then sometimes when I pray about it I feel a lot better.

So don't tell me dont me don't rebuke nature. Do you know someone somewhere has died becos of this ?

askjohnprosper:
Please and Please, If you want all this nonsense to stop, take God seriously. please visit Omega Power Ministries OPM in Port Harcourt and hear testimonies. Nothing God cannot do. Everything there is free. intact if any man of any god have ask you for payment, he is an arm robber, a thief and a rogue. watch testimonies on your cable TV for free. OPM

Hmmm..... am l mistaken or that actually sounds like Apostate Sulaiman?

baba4thegehs:


You are self contradictory, first you said it's health related, now you say nature.

I don't know what it is though, but then sometimes when I pray about it I feel a lot better.

So don't tell me dont me don't rebuke nature. Do you know someone somewhere has died becos of this ?

Is issues concerning health not natural?
Each time u had malaria u didn't pray n got better, u simply bought coartem, drank it and became well.


U can't rebuke illnesses away, u simply go to the hospital or take the necessary drugs n become fine.

Emeskhalifa:

Here is too open for me to discuss my life , but what u said is helping me connect some dots....

You are welcome.

meeky007:
dats d best comment i've ever had

But cant u change dat ur name(luvmejeje)to something meaningful/reasonable

Hehehe! Nairaland no kill person. I've been using this monicker since 2012. It's not my personal name. It's a monicker that means love me gently.

PrecisionFx:



Please don't bring in prayer confusion here bro. He has already prayed for over a decade and he is still sick...... Is it that God is deaf

It's an illness and nothing more.

Prayer works, and God answer prayers

sisipelebe:
Uncle, i didn't mention witches and wizard in my post... i dont even need to explain any spiritually thing here cos you'll never understand.

I Don't even want to say anything. Xtian telling a satanist about spiritual.

Very laughable.

luvmijeje:


Hehehe! Nairaland no kill person. I've been using this monicker since 2012. It's not my personal name. It's a monicker that means love me gently.

owk, have a nice day

sainty2k3:


Prayer works, and God answer prayers

He has prayed for 11 years already.

PrecisionFx:





Is issues concerning health not natural?
Each time u had malaria u didn't pray n got better, u simply bought coartem, drank it and became well.


U can't rebuke illnesses away, u simply go to the hospital or take the necessary drugs n become fine.

So you think all health issues are natural?
Open your eyes my brother, some sickness manifest In the physical but so much are going on in the spiritual relm .

smileshinz:

So, you're saying you have the power to control your dreams through the physical, correct?

its a power everybody has.its yhur right as a human soul, reality itself is an illusion of the Divine, yhur own reality is yhur own illusion as as a smaller Divine.

OtemAtum:

Simple, whatever I want to get in life, I spend time visualising it rather than thinking that the enemies are with it and I have to get it by force. Rather, I visualise what I want and work for it and I get it within a short period of time.
If I have disturbing nightmares that reoccurs, I tell myself the characters in my nightmares are not demons because demons don't exist. Then before going to bed the next time, I tell myself that I'm gonna change my nightmares to Hollywood movie where I am the hero in it. Then when I get into the dream, I wasn't the victim anymore. I beat silly out of the supposed demons.
Whenever I was having sleep paralysis(which the religious call demonic oppression), in the past I scare myself to near death because of it. But now, I love to study it whenever it comes. I lie still and study its nature.
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Other stuffs like witches, wizards, spiritual attacks etc are just mere psychological things which depends on how you want to take them. If you take them as nothing, they are nothing, but if you take them as powerful entities, then they appear powerful to you. It's just about how you see them, but in the actual sense, they are just the same as everyone else, but with higher psychical ability which they built up for themselves over the years, dahz all.

me I dey fight well well inside dream, I enjoy it, the control and the mental constrain.
same similar method, I don't even visualize anyone, I just head out, be open to learn, knowing fully well an idea is progressive, so is desire and I will eventually accomplish what I set out.

I find that visualizing exhaust my energy, so instead I put myself in the situation, then visualize while in the situation, not before. or I don't visualize atall, I just make sure I feel strong about my set desire my soul will the rest.

have yhu ever come across a succubus in yhur dream, what did yhu do?. don't lie o.

Demigods666:


I Don't even want to say anything. Xtian telling a satanist about spiritual.
Very laughable.

Lemme run for my life.

chalantmike:
become aware,wakeup, yhur still very much asleep, find yhur awaken ,wakeup take charge of yhur life.

not gifted with dream interpretation, I still have to google some of my dream symbol, just to get a verge meaning then relate to my present situation, narrow it down,be prepared.

Buh this is what I can tell yhu. if yhu trying to achieve something through the normal method and its not working, then yhur either missing/lacking something, or try another way of achieving that same thing.

will power/desire alone will not make a lizard fly,or a bird live under water,in other to fly men had to build planes, centuries ago a plane would have been the missing variable to mans flight.

my point is things yhur aiming to achieve would seem normal to yhu, after all everyone is achieving it blah blah blah.
yhur not everyone, yhur way is not there way,there way is not yhurz. plus the innermost mechanism behind people,you do not see it,this is why yhu do compare yhurself with others.

what is yhur inner mechanics?.
Know thyself. Knowledge of oneself is the only real knowledge,

deep.any suggested readings

baba4thegehs:


So you think all health issues are natural?
Open your eyes my brother, some sickness manifest In the physical but so much are going on in the spiritual relm .

'"some sickness manifest In the physical but so much are going on in the spiritual relm""


That's what the pastors keep telling u to keep I scared and keep u close to the church to keep collecting ur money.

swegiedon:

deep.any suggested readings

just mediate, that's all yhu need go through life as a thoughtful ,active been of light,energy and thought. every knowledge yhu need will eventually manifest itself, yhur path will be made clear to yhu, just spiritual people have higher intuition than average, and better will power over reality, no book will give yhu that but meditation will.

PrecisionFx:



'"some sickness manifest In the physical but so much are going on in the spiritual relm""


That's what the pastors keep telling u to keep I scared and keep u close to the church to keep collecting ur money.

This has nothing to do with the pastors, there are powers and powers not everything is physical there are happenings that even science cannot explain or comprehend. Case Closed. Are you an Atheist ?

baba4thegehs:

This has nothing to do with the pastors, there are powers and powers not everything is physical there are happenings that even science cannot explain or comprehend. Case Closed. Are you an Atheist ?

I have many doctor friends n they usually say they don't see such problems n generally there's no way to even know weda an illness ja spiritual to not.
I am a Deist.


Pastors where the ones that told u about spiritual controlling physical

Chemist009:
... Have since visited doctors years ago and was diagnosed of Aortic regurgitation which is under control. ..... But those recurring nightmares of same pattern and same recurring being held down subconsciously while half asleep can't just be physical,cos i have analysed it .... too many details even but can't just be mentioning all

dude plis reply do u also hear a kind if ringing sound and the more u try to move the more the sound plis reply?

Also do u see recurring double numbers,

PrecisionFx:





I have many doctor friends n they usually say they don't see such problems n generally there's no way to even know weda an illness ja spiritual to not.
I am a Deist.


Pastors where the ones that told u about spiritual controlling physical

So how would you explain miracles? Still physical right.

If healings can take place in the spiritual relm then I think sicknesses and other ailments can be spirit. You just won't know until you have a revelation from God

I study my bible and i have seen things happen.

Doctors will only tell you what they can prove scientifically, what they can't they tell you it's still natural.

i neither see ringing sounds nor double numbers .....

Chemist009:
i neither see ringing sounds nor double numbers .....

i mean when u cant control ur body do u feel a presence and also do u hear any strange sound atall cause dat is wat i am expiriencing

baba4thegehs:


So how would you explain miracles? Still physical right.

If healings can take place in the spiritual relm then I think sicknesses and other ailments can be spirit. You just won't know until you have a revelation from God

I study my bible and i have seen things happen.

Doctors will only tell you what they can prove scientifically, what they can't they tell you it's still natural.

which miracles or healing are u talking about

Do u know any blind, deaf cripple, dumb or dead person that was healed by any pastor or man of God?

I feel a presence,but no sound

PrecisionFx:



which miracles or healing are u talking about

Do u know any blind, deaf cripple, dumb or dead person that was healed by any pastor or man of God?

Yes I do. How about that!

It is obvious that you have a twisted belief system which has affected the the way you see certain occurrences. I'm not sure I wanna drag this any further

baba4thegehs:


Yes I do. How about that!

It is obvious that you have a twisted belief system which has affected the the way you see certain occurrences. I'm not sure I wanna drag this any further

pls can I meet any of the lame, deaf ,blind or crippled people who got healed? Pls I want to meet them and interview them. Thanks. However, I have seen many stage managed testimonies. Are u sure the ones you saw weren't stagemanaged as well?

baba4thegehs:


Yes I do. How about that!

It is obvious that you have a twisted belief system which has affected the the way you see certain occurrences. I'm not sure I wanna drag this any further

which particular miracles dis u say u have seen occur in the life of someone u know?

PrecisionFx:



which particular miracles dis u say u have seen occur in the life of someone u know?

Cancer

baba4thegehs:


Cancer

Lmao, oh cancer... I actually mentioned blind, deaf, dumb, cripple(Those are verifiable ones... We can easily go n meet family members/village members of such people for easy confirmation)...

This is how cancer cases/miracles work out.

1). In most cases people get a false diagnosis that they have cancer and after pastors prayers, they go to another hospital to repeat the test n it becomes negative.
Chances of false diagnosis are actually very high, sometimes exceeds 10%, Also even in a biopsy, false diagnosis errors can be as high as over 3% so brow chill. These machines used to check for cancers only take images and can be terribly wrong/inaccurate.

2). Several growths which might end up being cancerous appear in the human body and usually sorts itself out with time, some avoid confirmation tests(biopsy) wen such is found in them and rush to their pastor or Reverend for prayers, 2 months later they go back for test n it's negative and they start shouting God of winners or God of Oyedekpo has healed them if cancer.

3). In some cases people have cancer true true, cancers wen caught in the early stages are curable, Such people keep taking medication from their doctors n still keep going to 1 or many pastors for prayers, wen the drugs work, they intentionally forget they took drugs and they keep shouting that pastor has healed them of cancer.

4). Certain dietary and lifestyle changes can sort out so so many illnesses including cancer, wen it happens, they would prefer to force the miracles on their pastors.


Africa is still in blindness n lack of knowledge is the greatest blindness, The mother of all blindness. Until we are educated, our stupidity will never stop.




Let me put it to u again n again, the last time u got sick, u didn't stay at home n start praying, U went to the hospital or to a pharmacist, got ur drugs n took it. U didn't stay at home to pray to the Almighty God to heal u because u subconsciously know he can't or he doesn't heal u.

PrecisionFx:



Lmao, oh cancer... I actually mentioned blind, deaf, dumb, cripple(verifiable ones)...

This is how cancer cases/miracles work out.

1). In most cases people get a false diagnosis that they have cancer and after pastors prayers, they go to another hospital to repeat the test n it becomes positive.

2). Several growths which might end up being cancerous appear in the human body and usually sorts itself out with time, some avoid confirmation tests(biopsy) wen such is found in them and rush to their pastor or Reverend for prayers, 2 months later they go back for test n it's negative and they start shouting God of winners or God of Oyedekpo has healed them if cancer.

3). In some cases people have cancer true true, cancers wen caught in the early stages are curable, Such people keep taking medication from their doctors n still keep going to 1 or many pastors for prayers, wen the drugs work, they intentionally forget they took drugs and they keep shouting that pastor has healed them of cancer.

4). Certain dietary and lifestyle changes can sort out so so many illnesses including cancer, wen it happens, they would prefer to force the miracles on their pastors.


Africa is still in blindness n lack of knowledge is the greatest blindness, The mother of all blindness. Until we are educated, our stupidity will never stop.




Let me put it to u again n again, the last time u got sick, u didn't stay at home n start praying, U went to the hospital or to a pharmacist, got ur drugs n took it. U didn't stay at home to pray to the Almighty God to heal u because u subconsciously know he can't or he doesn't heal u.

It all depends on your faith. You faith needs to be backed by works. If you have a deep conviction in your heart and not a single doubt then you shall see the full manifestation of the power of God.

The power of God works is beyond the human apprehension, hence you bigotry perception.

You need to personally experience certain things before you can say, else I'll just be wasting your time pouring waters on a stone.

You ain't seen nothing bro.

I swear down... Even some aethiet reads the bible and they confirmed that there are power in the physical and spiritual. But you dwell in the physical and your think every thing happening around you is nature. I laff big time.