majekdom2:
my point is, they are not shaken by talks as this. È no dey pull weight. Like I said, people have been talking since 1981 but he has increased more than a thousand. Isn't it foolishness to keep talking?

Foolishness? Perhaps, you may want to say it is foolishness to continue to ask for good leadership because we have not had one for years.

MadCow1:
If this Man is going to Heaven, I will rather be in hell with the Devil.


This can't be what Christ died for. Nope!!

another man just attained the statute of the devil. God help u

LordOfNaira:


Foolishness? Perhaps, you may want to say it is foolishness to continue to ask for good leadership because we have not had one for years.

you ask for what belongs to you that's what you have been doing as regards leadership. You don't talkdown what belongs to you, do you? Can you see it is clear foolishness talking down something over the years without change

Clemzzz:

So men of God are also gods of men,right?

The line has become blurred as to whether they are men of God or gods of men.

ayespato:




another man just attained the statute of the devil. God help u

And God shouldn't help you or what? And I didn't know the Devil was a Status.. Is God also a status? Or are we just making up random shiit now just to defend Oyedepo?

majekdom2:
you ask for what belongs to you that's what you have been doing as regards leadership. You don't talkdown what belongs to you, do you? Can you see it is clear foolishness talking down something over the years without change

Responsibility is not all about fighting for what belongs to you. You can fight against all forms of leadership. Religious and political leadership are contributory factor to the mess we have today and it's our responsibility to tackle it.

It took years for Europe to put religion in its place so it is not foolishness to do what we do. It is foolishness to expect that nothing will change forever. The only constant thing in life is change. It may take long but there would always be change.

LordOfNaira:


Responsibility is not all about fighting for what belongs to you. You can fight against all forms of leadership. Religious and political leadership are contributory factor to the mess we have today and it's our responsibility to tackle it.

It took years for Europe to put religion in its place so it is not foolishness to do what we do. It is foolishness to expect that nothing will change forever. The only constant thing in life is change. It may take long but there would always be change.

ok, Europe has put religion in its place. Has it stopped pastors from being rich? What are you doing really? You call talking down "doing"? Where a your works against religion? Where are the works to enact the change? Are churches not still rich in Europe? Bro, you are on the foolish path. Accept that now. Many fools have seen this, retraced their steps and are doing better now. You will be livingg in misery trying to change what you have absolutely no power to change.

MadCow1:
If this Man is going to Heaven, I will rather be in hell with the Devil.


This can't be what Christ died for. Nope!!

Then you better start going to hell, obviously you don't read your Bible

2 Corinthians 8:9
KJV:For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

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guy, I UNDERSTAND YOUR PAIN

but it is still based on ignorance

give your life to christ and strive to have a personal relationship with him and you wont even see it as an issue

The laws of sowing and reaping is real my brother

The bible also encourages us to do so (cos finance is need for the advancement of the kingdom)

THE GOD THAT ADMONISHED US TO TITHE IS NOT STUPID

so am not tithing based on what a pastor said, but on what God says

and if you say am a fool (like millions of other people in the world who also tithe)

then you are calling God the most wisest, most glorious, most loving, most powerfull, most kind, most loving, most holy, foolish?

but still whatever man, am done typing, you are entitled to your own opinion

there are two things in life

Man's freewill and God's sovereignty.

NwaAmaikpe:


I can comment freely on Apostle Johnson Suleman and Biodun Fatoyinbo without any reservation or inhibition.

But that my grace no carry me reach where Bishop Oyedepo dey ooo.
Before my device go catch fire

God has blessed this man beyond measures.

I liked your post because of how you ended it, believe me bro Apostle Johnson Suleiman and d pastor coza are genuine

majekdom2:
ok, Europe has put religion in its place. Has it stopped pastors from being rich? What are you doing really? You call talking down "doing"? Where a your works against religion? Where are the works to enact the change? Are churches not still rich in Europe? Bro, you are on the foolish path. Accept that now. Many fools have seen this, retraced their steps and are doing better now. You will be livingg in misery trying to change what you have absolutely no power to change.

You are missing the point. There are prosperity preachers in Europe but there are also technological advancements and low rate of poverty. That is putting religion in its place. Putting Religion in its place does not mean destroying it. It means reducing its influence on the people. Europe has achieved that. Nobody would be seriously concerned about Oyedepo if he were not so rich in the midst of poverty.

As for being on a lost path, I think you are merely projecting. It is you who is lost and ignorant. It was for people like you that Karl Marx mentioned Religion being an opium that gives temporary relief and keeps the people from revolting against their oppressors.

CAPTAIND5235:


Then you better start going to hell, obviously you don't read your Bible

2 Corinthians 8:9
KJV:For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

Yeah.. The letter from Paul (a.k.a Saul the Christian Mass Murderer) to the Church in Corinthains..

Okay... Give me a few minutes to provide you with a 'robust' response to that very abused passage of the Bible. I need to sort some things out then read that scripture and respond.

Read this bible commentary on that passage..

https://www.studylight.org/commentary/2-corinthians/8-9.html

cristianisraeli:
BIG THIEF!!!!..

if u are a follow follow brainwashed dummy..do not quote me..i warn u.....say ur own and move on

I DONT WORSHIP PASTORS

I WORSHIP THE OWNER OF THE UNIVERSE

U ARE PROBABLY SOMEWHERE WITHOUT MONEY TO BUY SOAP..LOL

if only people listened to Fela.......
Pastor's house,na him go fine pass,my people dey live for poor surrounding,pastor's dress na hin go clean pass,it hard for my people for dem to buy soap,pastor na him dey give respect pass and dey go dey do bad bad bad bad things.
suffer suffer for world,enjoy for heaven,Christians go dey shout........,Muslims go dey yap allahu Akbar,open your eyes o every one,pastor na miliki,imam na gbaladun,pope na enjoyment,Pastor dey for London,Imam dey for mecca,arch bishop dey for Rome,dey go carry all the money and dey go start to yab themselves......... Fela is a prophet indeed my guy. everything he detailed in those lyrics I wrote above and his songs are really happening now,20 years after his death. RIP to Fela,Africa's greatest ever. no musician can be like him again

LordOfNaira:


You are missing the point. There are prosperity preachers in Europe but there are also technological advancements and low rate of poverty. That is putting religion in its place. Putting Religion in its place does not mean destroying it. It means reducing its influence on the people. Europe has achieved that. Nobody would be seriously concerned about Oyedepo if he were not so rich in the midst of poverty.

As for being on a lost path, I think you are merely projecting. It is you who is lost and ignorant. It was for people like you that Karl Marx mentioned Religion being an opium that gives temporary relief and keeps the people from revolting against their oppressors.

Dangote is the richest black man in the midst of poverty. Understand the population factor in Nigeria! Did he start rich.. how did he become rich, go figure!

emmanwandud:
You created a thread 2 despise a man of God

wake up, cos that's who they are...

majekdom2:
Dangote is the richest black man in the midst of poverty. Understand the population factor in Nigeria! Did he start rich.. how did he become rich, go figure!

You see the reason why I call Oyedepo a businessman? Because every time I mention him, someone must mention Dangote and even celebrities like Davido.

LordOfNaira:


You see the reason why I call Oyedepo a businessman? Because every time I mention him, someone must mention Dangote and even celebrities like Davido.

I only used it as a reference. Population is alway alway factor. Yes he is a business man like Abraham. Go figure how he acquired his wealth. If you think offerings and tithes are enough to foot private jet bills, build institutions and maintain churches facilities, think again!

majekdom2:
I only used it as a reference. Population is alway alway factor. Yes he is a business man like Abraham. Go figure how he acquired his wealth. If you think offerings and tithes are enough to foot private jet bills, build institutions and maintain churches facilities, think again!

My friend, we know that tithe is enough. Do you know how many people pay tithes in that Canaanland from those who earn millions to those who earn as low as 5000 naira? That is not to mention offerings and many other gifts.

LordOfNaira:


My friend, we know that tithe is enough. Do you know how many people pay tithes in that Canaanland from those who earn millions to those who earn as low as 5000 naira? That is not to mention offerings and many other gifts.

so you know people who earn millions go to the church dey dere. FYI, people dey land contracts, build business relationships through the church. So why wont they give to the man that has created the platform. People's lives has changed. They testify day in day out. So what is your own problem. Only fools doubt proofs

majekdom2:
so you know people who earn millions go to the church dey dere. FYI, people dey land contracts, build business relationships through the church. So why wont they give to the man that has created the platform. People's lives has changed. They testify day in day out. So what is your own problem. Only fools doubt proofs

Yes, just like I know that billionaire kidnapper, Evans, also went to church. Just like I know about 35 million dollars stolen from Sheraton and used to fund many Christ Embassy projects. Just like I heard about Ahangba stealing 150 million naira from Bayelsa state government and gifting Winners Chapel 11 million naira.

My friend, prosperity is not a sign of God's blessing. That was not what Paul said the Christans should look out for in a Man of God.

Anyway, I almost forgot that Oyedepo is a businessman and a writer of motivational books.

Durentt:
fùcking sheeple.
I can bet my dick you've never worked for your money before, you probably live with your parent.
Christ meets your need indeed. Rubbiish

Hehehe you are free to jump into a sea if you please.

Vikkie14:
And what about you? Small thief? Like he came to your house in the dead of the night to cart away your valuables?

Learn to respect people who are called 'men of God' even if they are not 'God-called' but are "stomach-Called"... Everyone will give account. Just like Jesus said, let both the Chaff(belly-called) and the Wheat(God-called) grow together, the time of the harvest is near when they will be separated and put where each belong.

And to you My Bro, Mathew 12:36 says: "But i say unto you that 'every' IDLE words that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgement".

Don't let (the morality of) any Man-of-God push you to do contrary to God's word.

U are just a church goer.

LordOfNaira:


Responsibility is not all about fighting for what belongs to you. You can fight against all forms of leadership. Religious and political leadership are contributory factor to the mess we have today and it's our responsibility to tackle it.

It took years for Europe to put religion in its place so it is not foolishness to do what we do. It is foolishness to expect that nothing will change forever. The only constant thing in life is change. It may take long but there would always be change.

What do you mean by Europe putting religion in its place? What is the difference between Nigeria's Christianity and that of Europe

NwaAmaikpe:


I can comment freely on Apostle Johnson Suleman and Biodun Fatoyinbo without any reservation or inhibition.

But that my grace no carry me reach where Bishop Oyedepo dey ooo.
Before my device go catch fire

God has blessed this man beyond measures.

Delete this comment now!

my case is different

PierreDeFermat:
if only people listened to Fela.......
Pastor's house,na him go fine pass,my people dey live for poor surrounding,pastor's dress na hin go clean pass,it hard for my people for dem to buy soap,pastor na him dey give respect pass and dey go dey do bad bad bad bad things.
suffer suffer for world,enjoy for heaven,Christians go dey shout........,Muslims go dey yap allahu Akbar,open your eyes o every one,pastor na miliki,imam na gbaladun,pope na enjoyment,Pastor dey for London,Imam dey for mecca,arch bishop dey for Rome,dey go carry all the money and dey go start to yab themselves......... Fela is a prophet indeed my guy. everything he detailed in those lyrics I wrote above and his songs are really happening now,20 years after his death. RIP to Fela,Africa's greatest ever. no musician can be like him again

true talk

adegeye38:


guy, I UNDERSTAND YOUR PAIN

but it is still based on ignorance

give your life to christ and strive to have a personal relationship with him and you wont even see it as an issue

The laws of sowing and reaping is real my brother

The bible also encourages us to do so (cos finance is need for the advancement of the kingdom)

THE GOD THAT ADMONISHED US TO TITHE IS NOT STUPID

so am not tithing based on what a pastor said, but on what God says

and if you say am a fool (like millions of other people in the world who also tithe)

then you are calling God the most wisest, most glorious, most loving, most powerfull, most kind, most loving, most holy, foolish?

but still whatever man, am done typing, you are entitled to your own opinion

there are two things in life

Man's freewill and God's sovereignty.

if am wise and i refuse to worship any pastor and i refuse to give my money to any pastor..means am ignorant let it be,ok...look at my moniker very well..am a full breed christian...


DONT NOT GIVE UR TITHE IN ANY CHURCH...TAKE IT TO ANY MOTHERLESS BABY HOMES,DEAF SCHOOLS,SCHOOL FOR THE BLIND AND OTHERS...

DO NOT GIVE UR TITHE TO ANY CHURCH....U CAN PAY OFFERING

ALWAYS REPEAT THIS EVERY MORNING WHEN U WAKE UP...I REFUSE TO WORSHIP ANY PASTOR..PASTORS ARE NOT GOD..I AM A PASTOR AS WELL..I AM A MAN OF GOD AS WELL..

AND U WILL UNDERSTAND

I would rather not comment ,but to advise those are quick in insulting men Like Bishop Oyedepo , Please ask your father why is he not successful, but you are quick to insult a man that did not for one day work under any body either , individual, government or Private sector, he has been a preacher since he left school because he had an encounter with God. God please forgive all these nairalanders ignorance

LordOfNaira:


Yes, just like I know that billionaire kidnapper, Evans, also went to church. Just like I know about 35 million dollars stolen from Sheraton and used to fund many Christ Embassy projects. Just like I heard about Ahangba stealing 150 million naira from Bayelsa state government and gifting Winners Chapel 11 million naira.

My friend, prosperity is not a sign of God's blessing. That was not what Paul said the Christans should look out for in a Man of God.

Anyway, I almost forgot that Oyedepo is a businessman and a writer of motivational books.

you will not see people who give give church from their truthful labour. You will only see the false ones... It is always expected. The bible says the gospel will ride on prosperity. Check it again. Prosperity and good health is a sign of God's blessing. Go read your bible again. If Oyedepo was still driving a rickety car after 36 years, won't you question his God. People go always talk... just see the good side to things. Don't come Judgemental as we are all humans. Let the maker Judge.

cristianisraeli:


if am wise and i refuse to worship any pastor and i refuse to give my money to any pastor..means am ignorant let it be,ok...look at my moniker very well..am a full breed christian...


DONT NOT GIVE UR TITHE IN ANY CHURCH...TAKE IT TO ANY MOTHERLESS BABY HOMES,DEAF SCHOOLS,SCHOOL FOR THE BLIND AND OTHERS...

DO NOT GIVE UR TITHE TO ANY CHURCH....U CAN PAY OFFERING

ALWAYS REPEAT THIS EVERY MORNING WHEN U WAKE UP...I REFUSE TO WORSHIP ANY PASTOR..PASTORS ARE NOT GOD..I AM A PASTOR AS WELL..I AM A MAN OF GOD AS WELL..

AND U WILL UNDERSTAND

in all my post did i ever mentioned anything about worshiping a pastor?

all my posts has always been in relation with God

am a child of God and a preacher of the word too

I have said everything that needs to be said on the issue of tithe

the issue of tithing is a seperate thing

tithing is between you and God

wether you tithe to church or to any other place as led by God is a diff thing entirely

if you continue to talk this way, then you did not read my ealier posts or you did not understand it well

cristianisraeli:


if am wise and i refuse to worship any pastor and i refuse to give my money to any pastor..means am ignorant let it be,ok...look at my moniker very well..am a full breed christian...


DONT NOT GIVE UR TITHE IN ANY CHURCH...TAKE IT TO ANY MOTHERLESS BABY HOMES,DEAF SCHOOLS,SCHOOL FOR THE BLIND AND OTHERS...

DO NOT GIVE UR TITHE TO ANY CHURCH....U CAN PAY OFFERING

ALWAYS REPEAT THIS EVERY MORNING WHEN U WAKE UP...I REFUSE TO WORSHIP ANY PASTOR..PASTORS ARE NOT GOD..I AM A PASTOR AS WELL..I AM A MAN OF GOD AS WELL..

AND U WILL UNDERSTAND

in all my post did i ever mentioned anything about worshiping a pastor?

all my posts has always been in relation with God

am a child of God and a preacher of the word too

I have said everything that needs to be said on the issue of tithe

the issue of tithing is a seperate thing

tithing is between you and God

wether you tithe to church or to any other place as led by God is a diff thing entirely

church, ministries and missions mostly rely on tithe, sowing and donations

that why God admonished us to tithe

if you continue to talk this way, then you did not read my ealier posts or you did not understand it well

If you are a born again Christian as you claim, you wouldn't talk this way

keep an open mind, go and pray, read and meditate on God's word, and you will understand better

ps: am done typing....

majekdom2:
you will not see people who give give church from their truthful labour. You will only see the false ones... It is always expected. The bible says the gospel will ride on prosperity. Check it again. Prosperity and good health is a sign of God's blessing. Go read your bible again. If Oyedepo was still driving a rickety car after 36 years, won't you question his God. People go always talk... just see the good side to things. Don't come Judgemental as we are all humans. Let the maker Judge.

You are a very ignorant Christian. So Evans' wealth is a sign of God's blessings abi? I should see only the good side of things sounds like selfishness. If Bill Gates only saw the good side of things, he would not be pumping money into healthcare and education in Africa. It is selfishness to close my eyes to cases of lack of transparency in churches, especially in the face of poverty. Just so you know prosperity is not a sign of anything. The devil can give prosperity too, at least according to the Bible. All you need is to bow down to him. (He even told Jesus that).

Oyedepo does not have to drive a rickety car. No one said he should be poor as a church rat but all Paul told Timothy was to be content. To only ask for the basic things of life: shelter, clothing and food. What else does a man of God need. Modesty is something that a man of God should chase. A 500000 naira car does not have to be rickety. As long as it can move and move fine. A beautiful modest house is OK. He should eat modestly. Every other wealth should go into humanity. What is the essense of a private jet or gigantic church buildings? Are we building a church or mansion? A shepherd is not just to feed the church (the body of Christ, and not those mansions) with the word of Christ but with food. In the early Church, people brought their money and fruits before the Apostles who in turn shared it among the church. Peter did not buy a ship. Even Paul who was constantly sent out (meaning of "Apostle")did so on commercial ships. If Oyedepo can take his mind away from the riches of these world, he would understand the true meaning of sacrifices and the futility of building mansions while thousands languish in poverty.